<Arr-nii> ohai
<Arr-nii> responded to your PM
<Aryn_Krest> Yeah, go ahead and withdraw it.
<Arr-nii> I'm disappointed, really. So much for wanting to change your habit of being talked into things easily.
<Arr-nii> you were going well in the poll too
<Arr-nii> not only that, you've just made me look like a moron for trusting you
<Aryn_Krest> I know, but... Youmu made a great point. You've alienated a lot of people, but... for what? We've made mistakes, and we're trying to move on from them, but you're -not letting us-.
<Aryn_Krest> You bring it up every chance you get.
<Arr-nii> I'm willing to forgive and forget with most of you
<Arr-nii> eventually.
<Arr-nii> I'm not going to exercise a veto against anyone trying to rejoin SOS other than Elrich, Michaeru and possibly Tohru
<Arr-nii> I'm surprised you can listen to Tohru's ranting in that log.
<Aryn_Krest> Then honestly, Arrnea, just let this lie. Let it go away... Most people are tired of this, they just want it to end, and I'm included in that.
<Arr-nii> it's because she doesn't like me. She never did once I figured her act.
<Aryn_Krest> It wasn't so much the fact that she didn't like you that got to me.
<Aryn_Krest> It was the fact that I had betrayed her... rather harshly, I might add. I left because of her, because I wanted to be able to protect her, and then I went back to the place that I said I would leave -for- her.
<Aryn_Krest> I'm certain you can at least sympathize with that.
<Arr-nii> how is leaving an alliance that you can't agree with betraying 'her' specifically?
<Arr-nii> think about that for a moment
<Arr-nii> no matter how much she says it is, no matter how much she rages, it's not betrayal
<Aryn_Krest> I left because I wanted the otehrs to see that Michaeru was a traitor, to see how they participated in that.
<Aryn_Krest> Apparently, they already had... And they'd forgiven each other for it.
<Aryn_Krest> They didn't hold a gruge. They weren't happy for it, but the didn't hold it against each other.
<Arr-nii> oh yes, they'd forgiven each other for stabbing me in the back
<Arr-nii> that's quite the amazing feat
* Arr-nii rolls his eyes
<Arr-nii> pity they didn't tell me that
<Aryn_Krest> They tried.
<Arr-nii> no, they didn't.
<Arr-nii> if they had, I would have known about Michaeru's treason much earlier.
<Arr-nii> not one of them told me anything of the sort
<Aryn_Krest> All they wanted you to do was admit that although you did what was right, it turned out to be the wrong thing in the end.
<Aryn_Krest> It was you attitude that made them leave.
<Aryn_Krest> I was among that group. I recognized that. I forgot that temporarily...
<Aryn_Krest> The issue they have in all of it is that you take -none- of the blame for yourself.
<Aryn_Krest> -that- is the divider between us.
<Arr-nii> if they think that, they're misinterpreting the situation grossly.
<Arr-nii> I have never said they should take all the blame
<Arr-nii> I have said that they should take the blame for their mistakes and apologise for them
<Arr-nii> which they have not, with a couple of exceptions, done.
<Aryn_Krest> And have you done that, either?
<Arr-nii> I did that in the PM I sent to all the people who left in the first place.
<Arr-nii> unfortunately, Elrich and Diablofan in particular weren't listening
<Arr-nii> also lol @ Diablofan
<Arr-nii> trying to prove I doctored the logs
<Arr-nii> I edited out Soviet Haruhi changing the channel topic
<Arr-nii> that totally means I doctoredthe whole thing, right?
<Aryn_Krest> XD
<Aryn_Krest> Arrnea...
<Aryn_Krest> You keep holding this grudge.
<Aryn_Krest> But why?
<Aryn_Krest> Does it help?
<Aryn_Krest> Does it satisfy you somehow?
<Arr-nii> No.
<Aryn_Krest> It seems like it's just eating away at you further.
<Aryn_Krest> I don't... don't want to see that.
<Aryn_Krest> Apologizing doesn't even matter anymore.
<Aryn_Krest> Forgiveness is what's necessary.
<Arr-nii> did I not previously say I can forgive most of you?
<Arr-nii> Michaeru is excepted.
<Arr-nii> Elrich will have a lot of work to do.
<Arr-nii> you can't honestly expect me to forgive right away
<Aryn_Krest> I don't.
<Aryn_Krest> But... work towards it.
<Arr-nii> your flip-flopping is making that less and less likely.
<Arr-nii> but how do you know I'm not working towards it?
<Arr-nii> none of them have come to me to talk
<Arr-nii> except you and Imperator.
<Arr-nii> and Soviet Haruhi, briefly.
<Aryn_Krest> <_< All I've seen is more and more bickering over whose right and whose wrong.
<Arr-nii> hard to get real progress on making amends with people who won't talk to you
<Arr-nii> >_>
<Aryn_Krest> So you're saying you want to try?
<Arr-nii> of course, but I'm not sure how much they'll listen
<Arr-nii> I've been willing to sit down and talk with you lot the whole time
<Arr-nii> I tried.
<Arr-nii> the PM.
<Arr-nii> but you saw how Elrich and Diablo responded to that
<Arr-nii> basically "shut up and leave us alone"
<Arr-nii> makes it a little difficult.
<Arr-nii> after that I basically gave up on trying to reach out to you
<Aryn_Krest> T_T This is such a fuckfest.
<Aryn_Krest> Promise me that when I try to get them to talk to you, if they listen, that you'll keep an open mind?
<Arr-nii> of course, but I don't expect them to listen to reason, especially Tohru and Michaeru.
<Aryn_Krest> Don't judge, don't keep that grudge at the ready, don't point fingers...
<Arr-nii> and probably Diablofan.