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Chris10: Defensiveness, lack of patience; apology; Didache

Apr 1st, 2020
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  1. Chris10 has joined ([email protected])
  2. Profound has changed mode: +v Chris10
  3. Chris10
  4. tzipsaway: We prayed for hospital workers tonight - and did you see the tent hospital Samaritan's Purse set up?
  5. Hevajra
  6. ya in Spain and Italy too I think they just don't treat virus patients over age 65
  7. EonEcho
  8. Prayer is not useful, but it can increase compassion and mindfulness.
  9. Hevajra
  10. EonEcho, haven't seen you for a while
  11. Chris10
  12. EonEcho: Your opinion is noted - we'll be praying.
  13. EonEcho
  14. Chris10: It's the view of science, actually.
  15. Hevajra
  16. what do you think the US death toll will be by Nov.2020 ?
  17. EonEcho
  18. But if it makes you feel less challenged to false conceptualize it as my opinion, that is pretty easy to understand.
  19. Chris10
  20. tzipsaway: Those people don't run from danger - they run to it.
  21. EonEcho
  22. Hevajra: Yes, the Christian ChuckWagon banned for a month, in violation of Christ's teachings, because I see the world differently than him and that's intolerable.
  23. Chris10
  24. tzipsaway: I think it's denominationally independent.
  25. Hevajra
  26. Fen: were you once called "muddypaws" here ? I mean your /nick ?
  27. EonEcho
  28. Imagining science is merely an opinion is a critical method by which Christianity can continue to exist in modernity.
  29. Chris10
  30. EonEcho: You're premitted to lie about me all you like.
  31. Hevajra
  32. okies
  33. EonEcho
  34. Chris10: I put you on ignore for 3 months.
  35. EonEcho
  36. I did this because your mental state is so incredibly defensive that it prevents you from listening to others who disagree with you or showing them compassion.
  37. Barabbas
  38. hello Chris10
  39. EonEcho
  40. As you're command by Christ.
  41. Barabbas
  42. Chris10 I enjoyed your sermon last Sunday
  43. Hevajra
  44. EonEcho, I read a Nietzche quote yesterday "faith is the desire not to know the truth" . kind of reminded me of you actually
  45. EonEcho
  46. You also gave false witness against me with your "lying" claim.
  47. EonEcho
  48. Which is a violation of the 10 Commandments.
  49. EonEcho
  50. But, again, we non-Christians expect very little from Christians in terms of positive examples.
  51. EonEcho
  52. If that bothers you, internalize it, inspect it to see to what extent it is true, and then reform Christianity if there are flaws.
  53. Hevajra
  54. EonEcho, you never told me what you think the US death toll will be by Nov.2020 ? a few hundred thousand dead or more than a million ?
  55. 17:25 QST has changed mode: -v EonEcho
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  59. EonEcho
  60. It looks like I was incorrect.
  61. EonEcho
  62. I looked at the log and it looks like Clint`30 is the one who banned me.
  63. EonEcho
  64. I will update the channel in public -- where I made my error -- the next time I am able to speak there.
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  69. 22:36 EonEcho
  70. I need to make an update from a claim I made earlier.
  71. EonEcho
  72. Earlier, I claimed that Chris10/Chuckwagon had banned me for a month because I see the world differently than him and that's intolerable for him.
  73. Red_Room_Red has joined ([email protected])
  74. Profound has changed mode: +v Red_Room_Red
  75. Red_Room_Red
  76. Hello everyone. I've come to ask about the story of Abraham and to ask for all opinions on what can be understood about the sacrifice that god was asking Abraham to do. what exactly do we learn about this part of the story?
  77. EonEcho
  78. While it is true that Chris10/Chuckwagon, in my experience, has extraordinarily little patience in managing the variations in others, and that he's repeatedly devoiced me and banned me on other occasions for having different beliefs than him, it is not true that he banned me most recently.
  79. EonEcho
  80. I looked at the logs and mixed him up with Clint`30.
  81. EonEcho
  82. Chris10 claimed that I had lied about him in this claim. I did not lie, but he was right and I was wrong.
  83. EonEcho
  84. So, I retract that claim.
  85. EonEcho
  86. I did put Chris10/Chuckwagon on ignore for the next six months, though (up from the original three months) as he simply has too much power in this room for a person with his level of tolerance and moderation -- absolutely essential, core Christian values.
  87. Ms_Emy has left IRC (Client closed connection)
  88. EonEcho
  89. Finally, I messaged Chris10 in private about this and they did not respond.
  90. EonEcho
  91. As a non-Christian, I am extremely used to Christians repeatedly failing forgiveness, patience, and tolerance -- even when others admit their errors and lead in humility and community.
  92. EonEcho
  93. I would have been surprised if Chris10 had responded in private and showed the slightest acceptance to my admission of error.
  94. EonEcho
  95. But, unfortunately, this is not the Christian way, in general.
  96. EonEcho
  97. Even though it was absolutely Christ's way.
  98. Barabbas
  99. EonEcho Perhaps you should wait until christ10/chuckwagon is here before talking about him.
  100. EonEcho
  101. Recommendation: If you're a Christian, think deeply about this honest analysis of the Christian community, inspect it for truth, and reform personally or your community any errors you find lacking Christian communities.
  102. EonEcho
  103. Barabbas: In the direct message, I stated I would give this update as soon as I was able to speak again in this channel.
  104. EonEcho
  105. So, to honor the principle of integrity, I wanted to do it now.
  106. EonEcho
  107. There's a good chance I will additionally raise this issue once more the next time I see them.
  108. EonEcho
  109. I predict Chris10 will be extremely un-charitable.
  110. Barabbas
  111. It is dishonest to talk about someone who isn't here to defend themselves.
  112. EonEcho
  113. This is the Christian way, unfortunately.
  114. EonEcho
  115. Barabbas: Dishonest is an incorrect word usage there.
  116. Didache has changed mode: +b *!*@c-71-193-10-61.hsd1.ca.comcast.net
  117. You have been kicked out of the channel
  118. Didache has kicked EonEcho (Didache)
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