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Madtaz64

On Banning Warp Through The Danger

Jan 4th, 2017
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  1. So, I was thinking about it today, and I'm gonna be honest, as much as I hate the WTTD (Warp Through the Danger) glitch, I'm not sure I'm in support making a category on the boards just because it's dumb and makes the run lamer. I'm not saying I'm 100% against it, but I'm worried it might be a rash decision. I say this for a few reasons:
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  3. 1) It's very likely to be patched, the glitch only works because saving is so ridiculously bugged in general. For example File 1 won't even register that I bought Warp Dance anymore, and somehow a hero mode save from file 2 transferred itself onto a Shantae Mode save on file 3.
  4. 2) I know it changes a lot of the run and makes it lamer and somewhat faster, but I don't know if that's enough to ban the glitch. And I know that it's very easy to get Sub 1 hour now in Shantae Mode Any% compared to before but tbh I feel like an optimized run without the glitch would have been able to get that fast regardless. Maybe if the glitch does prove to save 10+ minutes in every category I'd be a bit more in support for it, but right now it looks to only save a handful of minutes, and this game is way too new to tell.
  5. 3) I know Xsczo said something about handling it similar to how LTTP handles it... Gonna be real here, don't have an issue with any of the runners in particular I've met and hung out with lot of super cool peeps who run the game before buuut.... their categories are one of if not the biggest and oldest jokes in the general community period, especially since No Major Glitches is their main category. I worry that if we make a category that bans this we open up a floodgate to a whole mess of categories that ban x glitch but not y... and as cool as no eg or no yba might be... the last thing I ever want to see this community do is pull out another NMG. And I'm not just saying it because lttp boards are a joke btw I'm saying that because it looks and sounds ridiculous, and I'm sure we're already ridiculous looking as it is with our 16 categories (even if most of them are perfectly justified for the most part).
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  7. There are obviously some good reasons that DO make WTTD worth separating, such as, like I said, it's more likely to be patched. And also, even if the timesave may not be huge, the route will still be extremely different for every category, even if it makes the runs less interesting. But I don't think we should just flat out ban a glitch if we can find a better alternative. For example, instead of saying “No x” or “No y”, why not think up a way to make a category/sub-category that wouldn't need to ban the glitch because it's pointless to do so. For example: Instead of “No WTTD”, how about “All End Area Flags Hit” or something like that. I know that's not the best name sue me I'm writing this as quick as possible because I have to go to work soon lol
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  9. If the community really wants there to be categories without WTTD I feel like a better alternative would be to handle it similar to how I suggested how we handle the sound glitch, which, to reiterate for anyone who didn't see, would be similar to how Banjo-Kazooie filters out Furnace Fun Moves runs: http://www.speedrun.com/bk
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  11. Otherwise I think people should just not incorporate the glitch in their runs if they don't want to do it. That's what I've done with Risky's Revenge because Quick Kills are hot garbage, and that's what I'm planning on doing for a good while with anything I run in Half-Genie Hero.
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