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  1. ERSON 2: Greg Wolfe's office.
  2. SHARI STACK: Greg, this is Shari.
  3. GREG: Shari.
  4. SHARI: Hey! Well SNOPUD called me
  5. GREG: Again -
  6. SHARI: -- and - and, well, anyway they were calling - they were saying, well you know,
  7. just to let you know that, [chuckles] your -your guy -y - ya'll haven't read our contract or
  8. you sent us an EEi and we don't know if we want to do an EEi and so on and so forth.
  9. And so I just kind of like said well - and I think their contract, I mean, I haven't seen it,
  10. but apparently, it's - it's pretty - pretty much based on the WSPP.
  11. GREG: Yeah, that's probably -
  12. SHARI: And so I said - and I said look, guys we typically don't do long term
  13. transactions under that and there's some key reasons why the EEi is better and so I said
  14. can I just send you the key distinctions and he said, yeah he'd like to see it, and I said
  15. look, send me your contract and let me look through it and I can quickly see what the,
  16. ah, the differences are and, you know, if it comes down to it, I mean, maybe we could do
  17. it on the WSPP, I said, but we'd need to make amendments to it. I said, because, I - I
  18. said - I said, honestly, I just can't see a way that we would transact this long under the
  19. WSPP. And he was - he knew - he - he - he was fair enough and he said he would
  20. really like to see the differences 'cause he doesn't - he hasn't - he doesn't really know
  21. much about the EEi so -
  22. GREG: Yeah.
  23. ร‚ยท SHARI: I'm gonna send him that now and I told him I would take a look and we're
  24. gonna talk first thing in the morning and he said that they think they're gonna decide
  25. around noon tomorrow or twelve thirty --
  26. GREG: Yeah.
  27. Shari: who gets the transactions.
  28.  
  29.  
  30. 1 GREG: Yeah.
  31. SHARI: So, I just want to tell you that.
  32. GREG: OK. Cool.
  33. SHARI: OK
  34. 5 GREG: All right.
  35.  
  36. SHARI: I think that - that - that's fair enough, I mean don't you think? I mean, I don't
  37. want to tank the deal, but we - they've - they've gotta realize that the WSPP does need
  38. improvement and that there are some very weak points.
  39. GREG: Yeah. 1O SHARI: So -
  40. GREG: Well that's cool, I mean I -
  41. SHARI: Or should I talk to Tracy, or, has credit approved this? I haven't even asked
  42. that.
  43. GREG: Nah, she said give me a name and number, I don't know. Yeah.
  44. SHARI: Well, tell her it's important, I mean, it's a long term deal, isn't it?
  45. GREG: Come on.
  46. SHARI: What is it, for '06?
  47. GREG: Yeah.
  48. SHARI: Or what was it? You didn't get credit approval?
  49. GREG: Um, through '08, through '08. No, we never do that.
  50. SHARI: Greg!
  51. GREG: What?
  52. SHARI: Are you serious?
  53. GREG: No, she just came over said give me a number of somebody to talk to and ah,
  54. so, um, you know I didn't, ah -
  55. SHARI: I can't believe this is you I'm talking to.
  56. GREG: I mean, it's a public -it's a public utility district. They're buying it for load.
  57. They have the right to pass on rates. They're gonna have auth - authorization to buy the
  58.  
  59.  
  60. 1 power. She knows - she's known for a couple of days. She just came over here and said,
  61. "Am I supposed to talk to somebody in Snohomish?" So, yeah, she needs to. I'll tell her
  62. to get the credit terms to you. Come on, man, you're making me feel bad! [laughs]
  63. SHARI: [laughs] You're a Vice-President! I don't - I'm not believing this! [laughs]
  64. GREG: Well, these people - you know how many times my phone rings a day and
  65. people just want prices and we go through this, I mean, the -you know, when the thing
  66. gets real, when they say they really want to transact, when they -you know we'll get all
  67. the stuff in line. But, I could, I mean, I could -we could be spending a lot of time on a
  68. bunch of people that ain't gonna transact right now, so, um -
  69. SHARI: OK.
  70. GREG: All right? So, I'll get Tracy. I'll call that - ah, Karen - she - she said -
  71. SHARI: And Karen was actually in the room when I was talking to you --
  72. GREG: Yeah
  73. SHARI: um, Eric and -
  74. GREG: OK
  75. SHARI: -- and she listened to this.
  76. GREG: OK, good. Um, uh, well, if you want to call that attorney back and just say,
  77. "Hey, who would our credit person talk to,'' just to kind of get a - get comfort. But, I
  78. don't know why, I mean -
  79. SHARI: But it just seems to me, don't you think, the fact that they're making such an
  80. effort to call me twice and looking at my documents that we - we must be a counter
  81. party they want to transact with?
  82. GREG: Yes, yes.
  83. SHARI: Or, you know?
  84. GREG: The fact that they changed their process, they're - they're calling you -
  85. SHARI: [laughs] They're calling me.
  86. GREG: Yeah, yeah. Um, so anyway, let me, ah - do you have the attorney's number?
  87. And maybe, you know what? Since you've kind of talked to the attorney a couple of
  88.  
  89.  
  90. times, um, do you mind calling him and - and just, 'cause what Tracy was saying is, who
  91. do I call over there. And I don't want her to necessarily call Karen.
  92. SHARI: OK.
  93. GREG: I mean if that's who the contact is then maybe we'll have to do that, but, um, I
  94. don't want to give them the sense that we feel like they're gonna do a deal with us, all
  95. right? 'Cause if they think we're --
  96. SHARI: Well then why don't we just hang off?
  97. GREG: No, no.
  98. SHARI: OK.
  99. GREG: I mean, this is all about price, all right?
  100. SHARI: OK,
  101. GREG: I mean, she went out of her way to say that you and others, you know, and kind
  102. of make it sound like there's somebody else there.
  103. SHARI: Uh huh.
  104. GREG: And I think there is, ah, but I don't wanna, if -if -if they know that we know
  105. that they don't have many options they may just say "Aa, I don't like this deal."
  106. SHARI: OK.
  107. GREG: So, um, so, I'd kinda like to, ah, if you can just call that attorney back and -
  108. SHARI: And say is there a credit person that -
  109. GREG: Yeah, just say - and, just from a - a - you know if you were gonna send them
  110. the EEI, or tell them we sent the EEI but it didn't have any credit terms in it, um, who
  111. would our credit person talk to?
  112. SHARI: OK.
  113. GREG: And I don't know, who do we talk to at public utility districts? They generally
  114. don't have credit people -
  115. SHARI: Yeah.
  116. GREG: -- do they?
  117. SHARI: I don't know. [laughs]
  118.  
  119.  
  120. 1 GREG: CFO's, I guess.
  121. 2 SHARI: OK. All right, if we were - just so - so bizarre. OK, if we were gonna talk to
  122.  
  123. 3 somebody, who would -
  124.  
  125. 4 GREG: No, no just, just tell 'em, um - just tell 'em that the EEI we sent didn't have any
  126.  
  127. credit terms and - and, uh, you know one of the things we wanted to shore up, you
  128. know if we are gonna be um, you know, on some sort of short list -make it sound like
  129. 7 we're in a competitive process -
  130.  
  131. SHARI: OK.
  132. GREG: Um, or um, just, ah, who - who have others been talking to, or some shit like
  133. that, you know?
  134. SHARI: [laughs]
  135. GREG: Um, called lies, its all how well you can weave these lies together, Shari. All
  136. right, so, um -
  137. SHARI: I feel like I'm being corrupted now -
  138. GREG: No, this is marketing.
  139. SHARI: OK.
  140. GREG: It's not as bad as trading.
  141. SHARI: Yeah, it's true. Oh yeah, you're right. OK, cool, I'll - I'll do it. Thank you and
  142. I'll just - I guess I'll e-mail the person's name and number to you and Tracy and that way
  143. you can follow up with her.
  144. GREG: OK
  145. SHARI: All righty, thanks
  146. GREG: Thanks, bye-bye.
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