EMSK: Why Not Taking The Red Pill Will Kill You Inside

TL;DR: Author of "Why The Red Pill Will Kill You Inside" gets thoroughly #REKT by Red Pill Truths.

Before I start the analravaging of this poor blue pill beta fag I do not advocate for r/TheRedPill nor have I ever. I have only advocated for truth, something that cannot exist when a downboat system hides comments and when popular opinion is the winner on each subplebbit.

>Foreword: I realize that this isn't your typical EMSK entry, but I view it as essential advice to any man who wants to be happy in a heterosexual relationship.

Initially the author assumes that once you have taken the red pill you will be unhappy, which is not the case. Most human beings don't dwell deep enough into the truth, in fact the most common message to anything uncomfortable in the US is "I don't care" with the implied "shut up NOW. I don't want to hear it." Because most people don't go too far down the rabbit hole, most do not get to a depressive state. Personally while I'm not depressed, I will concede that going too far down can be hurtful not because of the delusional reasons to be refuted, but because the world is a very ugly place and the more truth you uncover the less beautiful it becomes, the more people stop exceeding expectation and the tolerance for bullshit becomes low while you live in a global community of bullshitters. Again, most people do not go this far and will not experience anything more than the sadness at the realizations of the truth. Hey, the matrix movie told you the red pill wasn't comfortable and I won't lie it's not, but it is infinitely better than not knowing and many will agree with me on this.


For the uninitiated, "Red Pill" is a term co-opted by the types of people who frequent /r/TheRedPill (enter at your own risk, lots of lady-hate in there). It's a reference to The Matrix, in which Morpheus offers Neo a choice of one of two pills... a blue pill, which will make him forget and allow him to contentedly go back to a life of brainwashed mediocrity, or a red pill, which will wake him up to an unpleasant truth but grant him great power.

>The idea of the "Red Pill" as is commonly used now, is that men are constantly losing a war of what /r/TheRedPill users refer to as "Sexual strategy."

The idea of the red pill is constantly changed, just like friendzone and even memes as they go from 4chan to plebbit to unfunnyjunk to 9fag. For some, its pure truth seeking starting with the sexes and game theory, for others its purely game theory. A term not officially defined can always be redefined to mean what we need it to be; although OP does not give a bad description it may be incomplete to others.

>The subreddit is rife with success stories from men who claim they've gotten what they want out of their relationship (...) It's not that I doubt what he's saying. I believe it. The problem is, what he's describing is emotional abuse.

Time and time again you will notice how OP constantly goes to the blue pill idea that women can do no wrong. Ironically, while advocating equality and equal responsibility only the men are called out as assholes. There is no accountability present here for the women who do even worse shit. Yeah, fucking with your feelings sucks but fucking with my wallet/livelihood/career/tossing false rapes/endless false hope/etc. is not even worthy of a mention. As you read the OP's description of the red pill notice how this tone of "women are equal but its all your fault for them going along with emotion instead of taking a minute to be logical or put her foot down like an adult." remains steady and throughout until the very end.

>What the Red Pill advocates is taking advantage of common weak points in the typical female psyche to put pressure on women and bend them to your will.

Oh look, its that "She played along, all of this is your fault" I was talking about. It's not emotional abuse and it is not preying on the weak, what the red pill offers is simply the truth, an intro to reality would thus be: "We are not equal, sexual dimorphism is a thing, mother nature does not give a shit if something is sexist or not, women that are not choosy in regards to sex are not suitable marriage candidates, and women are attracted to the highest value male present." The red pill teaches you how to improve your value in the sexual marketplace so that you become a high value male or at least higher in value than you were before. No woman will tell you she prefers a skinny or fat midget to a non-English impaired Arnold Schwarzenegger. OP also takes the red pill position that women are indeed subject to their emotions instead of logic considering all you need are feelings to "bend her to your will."

>Users advise doing things like keeping her guessing, changing what you want and then berating her for not keeping up with your whims. Several advise that you never show affection for her unless she’s done something to please you. You break them like you'd break an animal.

This is pure cherry-picking at this point with the exception of keep her guessing. Women are attracted to mystery, excitement and constant changes that keep her guessing what you will do next because no one really likes the boring and predictable. In my case, being almost entirely honest (~95% of the time) and consistent in my stoic character is more than enough to keep her interested because I hold no filter, and do not tolerate bullshit. I will call you out on lies, and I will be a man that does what needs to be done no matter how harsh or unbearable it may seem. The average male does not do this, in fact if you listen closely you will see myriads of men unable to hold eye contact, keep his back straight, defend himself from a tirade of insults  or keep his opinions consistent (so many men will say they were joking or change their mind altogether because a woman is in disbelief or took offense). Women do not want an equal, they want a man to be a man and take her. It's no wonder that when there are almost no real men left women consistently decline in terms of happiness (down 40% across the board in the past 40 years with the addition of mental illness hitting about 1/4 women today)

>And it's damned effective in some cases. It'll get you what you want if you do it right. But you shouldn't want that, and here's why.

Love the "you shouldn't want that" tossed in there. For all the readers men and women alike, if you take one thing away from this is that you SHOULD want whatever it is that you want (so long as its reasonable) and work hard to attain it, working hard to get things you don't really want will never make you happy. But you heard him you blue pilled losers, stay where you are now and enjoy being good enough to spend all your time, money and attention on women but NOT reap the rewards that should come from all this. Does that sound like a good plan to you? Not me, and you can't pay me to go back to that load of bullshit.

>The Red Pill subreddit is also full of "Blue Pill Stories," in which guys get emotionally abused by their girlfriends. They lament being used for their money, their homes, their emotional support, what have you, and then being left when they weren't "Alpha" enough to keep their girlfriends around. It's a shame, it really is. Nobody deserves that kind of abuse.

Nobody deserves this kind of abuse but women are included in that nobody so its time for that tone I called out earlier, that's right here it comes!!!

>"Nobody" includes women, though.

YOU HEARD HIM BOYS, BECAUSE NO ONE SHOULD SUFFER AND WOMEN ARE PART OF THAT NO ONE ITS UP TO YOU TO STAY WHERE YOU ARE AND SUFFER FOR WOMEN THAT DO NOT RECIPROCATE OR APPRECIATE YOU. Women can do no wrong, and if they do it's all your fault. For OP it seems that although nobody should suffer its kind of OK for men to suffer if it means women don't. Doublethink is for 1984, not 2014.

>What the Red Pill strategy does is flip that power dynamic on its head. When it works, now it's the man who is in power and the woman who is suffering.

How is she suffering exactly? OP would have you would think that she is there with him because she is some helpless creature unable to leave an abuser that in all likeliness probably does not care if she leaves because he has the skills to get another girl that's just as good if not better. The more likely explanation, and the truth, is that women ENJOY their dominant man so much more than the average passive man that she is willing to bend over backwards to keep said dominant man from leaving. Again, her willful choices = you abused her with no explanation as to how or why.

>The man gets the sex without having to commit any real effort to the relationship, aside from making sure that his SO's emotions are brutally crushed on a regular basis.

If the man gets the sex without having to commit its because she feels he is of such high value that she MUST lock him down as her own before he moves on. It's no abuse, it is her conscious choice. Kind of like a guy that lifts for a whole summer because he MUST have the more beautiful woman that he desires. The only crushed feelings would be that of the woman that doesn't realize giving up milk for free means we won't buy the cow.

>You haven't fixed anything, you've only made sure it's your SO who's suffering and not you. And the reason she stays is the same reason Blue Pill guys stay in their relationships: They don't want to be alone.

Again with the suffering bit and all the man's fault. If she cannot stand to be alone for a while then what good of a wife will she be when you go on a trip? Remember, you've devastated her feelings entirely and you're gone but she's eagerly awaiting your return? Not leaving? Not cheating? Not trying to get help for her broken feelings? Could it be that there are no broken feelings? Reality, the red pill and the actions of women seem to agree with me heavily.

>And as long as you keep that power dynamic active, you will never know what love is. Because love means that you feel what your lover feels. If she hurts, you hurt. If you hurt her, you feel all of her pain and all of the shame for knowing that you're the one that caused it. If you really love someone, you'll never want to hurt them.

OP's definition of love is not universal. For some, love can be having someone or being whipped and electrocuted sexually by someone. This also assumes that you're never allowed to feel or have a compassionate moment with her which is not true, and even the infamous Roosh has stated in a RoK article that when you do LTR's you cannot forget the little things like the occasional flowers, chocolates and compliments. Just because we won't tolerate your never ending cry for attention does not mean we are abusive to you nor does it mean we are unloving, it simply means we expect you to act like a fucking adult and be able to deal with your own shit on your own. Sure, somethings are too heavy to carry but the lighter and unimportant bullshit is not something I would dump on you, likewise do not dump it on me when you can easily solve it on your own.

>And make no mistake, that's what the Red Pill is: cold, calculated, systematic emotional torture meant to produce a desired response.

So the redpill is systematic emotional torture now but up in the intro its something else entirely? Nu uh OP, that's not how it works. So far you've yet to prove how the red pill is torture by the way, you've only posted storied of men without hearing the woman's side of it either. Your assumption, in this case, has made an ass out of you.

Methods like keeping your prisoner guessing, changing what you want, keeping them off balance, those are all interrogation techniques meant to break your prisoner down on a mental and emotional level and produce a compliant charge.

Or it breaks the monotony of every other day. I'd be pretty fucking bored if I knew every minute of every day with no surprises, no twists and turns, nothing new to look forward to... "Nah, it has to be pure abuse and all women are too fucking stupid to see it I just can't explain why they would put up with all this abuse when womyn are stronk and independent!" - OP

>Put quite simply, someone couldn't ever do such a thing to someone they truly loved.

Let me make it even simpler, we do it because its obviously not abuse you moron.

>There is one thing that Red Pill has right. Sexual strategy sucks. But the solution isn't getting better at it than your SO is. The solution is agreeing with one another that you're not going to play the game. If a game is going to always suck for one player, and both players care about one another, they're going to find a better game to play.

Except that this does not work. Like communism, you've put too much faith in human beings to not be animals. Newsflash, we are animals subject to mother nature's whim just like your cat and dog. We may be able to think, but that does not mean we get to shut off instinct or ignore it. You will always want to look at the door when someone opens it, because of that instinctive fear of the unknown. We will always react to a loud noise in the dark with our fight or flight instinct. What is truly delusional is the expectation that in 20-40 years one can undo 200,000 of modern common ancestor evolution and even more smaller scale evolution happening in between then and now.

>You want a healthy, stable relationship that is going to be rewarding? Here's the secret. Remember that your SO is just as complex, intelligent and vulnerable a human being as you are.

Here's the truth, people are generic, predictable and for the most part boring. You haven't gone down that far but when I can go out and autopilot a date, literally leaving a 2 or 3 hour blank on my mind in between meeting her and going home its not because she is so complex, intelligent and interesting, it is because she is so predictable and everything I expected from her was so true that it resulted in not even needing to use my fucking brain to get her hooked on me. It's not because I'm abusive, its because I can keep a smile on her face the whole night and display traits that women generally have.

>She has needs just like you do. While she might place different values on her various needs, while she might express them differently, they're every bit as important to her as yours are to you. Life is a war. But if you want to win it, you and your SO need to be on the same side.

Exactly the point, we are on the same side with a role to help keep our family unit alive in this war. I go out and provide for all of us while you stay home and care for our future. You cannot honestly believe women are happier slaving away for some CEO they don't know instead of being with their own children, and if she does prefer that what does that tell you about her capabilities as a mother and as a human being? It certainly can't be positive. Because I know you will mention her being the breadwinner, go google it, it simply does not work because nature is sexist and said she is to bear a child while man is to provide for her. Women lose interest in the man they take care of because it is not natural or instinctive to them.

You don't need to break your girlfriend or wife. You need to talk to them. If they're doing something that hurts you, you need to tell them. And not "I wish you would quit that." Tell them "This hurts me when you do that." If they care about you, they'll take action to prevent causing you pain. To position and strategize to get what you want out of your marriage is to deny your most potent asset: An intelligent human being who cares about you and wants to see you happy above all else, and who wants to be happy alongside you.

Except that this is not what women are responding to, why do you think the nice guys are scratching their heads thinking why can't I get a girlfriend? Because being nice and providing no longer works. Treating her as an equal does not work and time and time again will you see this happen to others and to you. Obviously, communication is important and necessary, but there is no actual explanation why it works. It is simply the blue pill rhetoric we've all heard before that people choose to believe, although it is just not true. You can either treat her like an equal and be the paragon of feminism and political correctness only to have her divorce you and legally steal your paycheck for 2 decades, or you can establish yourself as a family working together to ensure the best outcome for your children and yourselves while being at a lower rate of divorce (even OP agrees, red pill men keep their women while blue pills will lose the traits they need to keep her because they think it will keep her).

And if you don't have that in your SO, you either need to get to that point or get out. There are many, many worse things than being single. One of them is being in an abusive or emotionally vacant relationship (on either side, abuser or victim). Don't view your time as being single as a sexless desert. View it as a time to grow and realize who you are. You need to be able to define yourself as an individual before you’re ready for a relationship.

If you don't have that in an SO why is she an SO in the first place is my question. Oh right, they wouldn't be there because no redpill man would take what he hates and no woman in her free choice would leave such a high value man that makes her happy. There are many worse things than being single, but OP's suggestion of go suffer for her although she is more likely to leave and abuse you would definitely be near the top of things worse than being single. The fall of Rome came with the liberation of its women, the same has happened in the US at an accelerated rate due to technological advances. The traditional family unit has proven time and time again throughout the course of history to be the best method of raising children and a stronger society. We may have more in terms of equality but what good is that if it does not make us happier and if we cannot support it? No, we cannot support equality because it costs the natives of a country. All job growth in the 2000's went to immigrants with natives actually having less jobs, economic policy to ensure everyone is the same racks up debt while destroying the middle class. Equality comes at a cost, dominance and hierarchy is the natural order. I'm sorry it has to be that way, but mother nature simply will not negotiate with anyone and reality in all senses is on her side not ours.

>Human beings are as diverse as life on this planet. For every type, there is a countertype. There is someone out there for just about everyone. However, none of your relationships will work out in a healthy manner until you realize that women are people too, not animals to be broken.

Not realizing people are animals was your mistake here, its the reason we can train someone like an animal in the sense that we can condition one. You provide nothing but feelgood bullshit and a naive sense of what the world should be like while disregarding what it really IS like. All the while you blame men, do not offer a single ounce of accountability for women and their actions? Get the fuck out of here, and kill yourself on the way out, mankind needs no traitors.

>You don't need to be an Alpha. You're not a damned dog. You're a human being. Human beings can communicate complex concepts, rebel against their base instincts to find better ways of doing things, and above all, reflect on their actions and empathize.

I knew the topic of rebellion was coming, can we really fight off our instinct? No. When we are in that life or death situation we do not think, we do not rebel against instinct, we act solely on it unless we train ourselves to resist it. Even then, a soldier whose wife and children are shot before his eyes might prefer caving to instinct for retribution and survival instead of the conscious mind. Nice job with the you're not a damned dog bit, when you can shame some into believing they are lower than others by being alpha you steer them away. Problem is, all the women are flocking to chad thundercock and the alphas, and the blue pill betas are fucking starving for cunt. All you need is a chad to take you under his wing, because once you know how to fish you will never go hungry again.

>You don't need to establish dominance, you just need to find somebody that's willing to actively pursue your happiness alongside their own; and you need to be willing to do the same for them. If you're not ready to do that, you're not ready to have a healthy relationship.

I'm going to let these women refute that for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejSq-_NzAps

>But there's good news... Something else human beings are good at is changing.

Pants on head retarded, human beings do not like change which is why we fight so hard to PRESERVE our way of life, NOT CHANGE it.

>You want someone to be willing to change for you, you have to make sure you're willing to change yourself a bit.

And we did this change, its called taking the red pill and changing accordingly. I built myself up and became a high value male, now its her turn. Learn to think and make a convincing argument that doesn't stem purely from MUH FEELINGS!

>Everything's a two-way street. Just make sure you're changing for the better.

I think I changed for the better, and women think so too. Why do I know this? Because I was only rewarded with female attention AFTER I changed. Years of equality led me to the same beta heartbreak woe is me sob story. Years of the red pill led me to constant success with women, a more diversified interest, better strategies for success, higher critical thinking skills, and I even got a bit cultured along the way. When a girl tells my group of American friends "I'm from Georgia but not the state" it helps being the only one that knows its also a Euro country. More men are taking the red pill because it works and ultimately it leads them to a better spot than they were before. Women choosing to date these men over the blue pill nice guys is not proof of abuse, it is proof that blue pill betas have it all wrong.

>Being willing to change doesn't mean flopping over and doing whatever is asked of you. Here, change is a bad word for this. Be willing to improve yourself. Nobody's perfect. Spot those places that need work (I assure you, they're there, and if you can't spot them, I guarantee the people around you can), and start improving on those things.

So you never delved into the self improvement section of the red pill? Shit like traveling, learning business, investing, bodybuilding, learning languages and doing whatever makes you happy is not mentioned at all in your review of the red pill? You're a shit reporter and an even worse liar.

>In order to have a healthy relationship, you have to be a healthy human being first. A healthy human being doesn't use sexual strategy. You'll only ever have a healthy relationship if both parties refuse to play that game.

So just who are you to define what a healthy human being does or doesn't do? Especially in social scenarios? Especially when women react positively to those scenarios? You will only have a healthy and stable relationship if you as a man learn one of the basic truths from the red pill and that is YOU must be stable as a man to support her outbursts and problems, and that you as a man must also expect your woman to do more for you than provide sex and expect everything. It's why more and more men are getting mail order brides instead of finding another wife, these women will clearly state that all they want from a man is someone to maintain a stable household, treat them nice and keep them happy while they remain feminine in their ways and please her man. If that trade off does not seem healthy, or if the trade off of the traditional family unit does not seem healthy then explain to me what is and PROVE THAT IT WORKS.

>In truth, the Red Pill as they represent it isn't a true awakening at all.

And your wholly implied "men go suffer for her and if equality didn't work well tough shit brah" is the true enlightenment we need? LOL no thanks, I'm good in the real world. I would invite us, but you are exactly as described in the matrix "dependent on the system thus unable to be removed from the system." - Morpheus.

>It's a capitulation to a false dichotomy.

Except that the middle road of equality doesn't work and divorce rates from the 60's on agree with me. The only falsehood here is that the red pill means you become some kind of abusive subhuman and that equality is the true way to happiness. It's the sure way to a fucking divorce and your sadness.

>A true awakening is realizing that the people around you are more than just faces, that they all have their own stories, their own thoughts, hopes and dreams, and that they are just as complex as you are. A true awakening is realizing that you don't have to win the fight (and thereby habitually hurt someone you ostensibly care about), or lose it. That you can take your ball and go home.

Human beings are not that complex, its exactly because we're so generic and predictable that psych can explain a lot and even fucking graphology can tell you much about yourself and others. Our experiences make us unique, not complex and equal. Ironically that is what red pill men do, we will not play your game to win or lose it if its too much of a bother to play, we will take our bat and ball and go home (with another girl that does want to play). You either spout bullshit or agree with red pill ideology without even realizing it.

>The Morpheus of sexual strategy is offering you two pills: Red and blue. Win sexual strategy, or lose it. Punch him in the face and tell him you're not playing his bullshit game.

No thanks, I'd much rather punch you in the face for the damage you caused to the blue pilled fucks that believed you because of the nonstop appeal to emotion.