tamakin
i'm not angry at you or anzu or anything, but kyrie and i are feeling hurt/left out that we weren't included in the log with serah :<
tamakin
especially since it's her intro and we didn't get to discuss anything
tamakin
i know you told me about making a log before, but i guess i got the impression it'd be a cast log
моg gυsтᴀ
we were just trying to slip her in quietly since she wasn't able to intro before the Luminar thing
tamakin
yeah i figured, but it still kind of stung :<
tamakin
i thought we'd at least be included in a discussion or something about what's going on with the four of them
моg gυsтᴀ
we were hoping to use that as sort of a launch to get both of them into the cast, since Noel was totally inactive in August anyway
tamakin
the cast only consists of us four though, bb :-P
моg gυsтᴀ
I told you that it as a Noel and Serah log though ;3;
tamakin
i guess i misunderstood that part
tamakin
but the both of us are still feeling kind of shunned :<
tamakin
serah appearing again would have been very major to both hope and vanille, and i understand the lateness, but i wish we could have all
моg gυsтᴀ
not that I'm playing one up or that I'm asspained about it, because I'm not, but you guys had the butterfly thing, and I had no idea
tamakin
you could have replied to that though bb, it was a totally open post
моg gυsтᴀ
where Noel was supposed to be/assumed to be or even living yet - which is admittedly mostly my fault because I had to focus on making
tamakin
neither of you did so i figured you were busy or not interested :\
моg gυsтᴀ
AC for Kondou, but it's certainly not meant to be an exclusion
моg gυsтᴀ
but I couldn't just assume Noel was there because I hadn't heard anything from Kyrie when I made that plurk asking where Noel was living
tamakin
oh she said she did reply...
моg gυsтᴀ
that was well after that post, though
моg gυsтᴀ
at any rate, nobody approached anzu, either
моg gυsтᴀ
it's not like this log is the only chance for either of you to get their Serah feels on - and really, to have a log of four people is
моg gυsтᴀ
always cumbersome and confusing and clunky especially when people aren't around at the same time or lose interest in rp for a day or so
tamakin
didn't you make a log for the hakuouki cast though? :<
моg gυsтᴀ
that one is specific to plotting that's been going on for a month
tamakin
aah
tamakin
well i mean, it's not really a case of approaching people either i guess... like i thought you knew it was okay that noel was staying with
tamakin
them so i had no idea that was why neither of you had replied to the post
tamakin
you just seemed busy so i didnt want to bother you to tag
tamakin
plus i have felt like i was just bothering you when i've tried to initiate conversation about plotting stuff with noel
моg gυsтᴀ
/laundry ninja
tamakin
\o/
моg gυsтᴀ
I'm sorry if I gave you that feeling, I didn't mean to, and it's good that you're bringing this up instead of stewing on it
моg gυsтᴀ
but like, idk
моg gυsтᴀ
I don't feel like kyrie's all that happy to have us anyway
моg gυsтᴀ
she's on my timeline, but she's never replied to any z/ffxiii plurks I've made
моg gυsтᴀ
I don't want any of this to be pa or hostile or anything, but really, honestly, Noel and Serah are brand new to the game, and
моg gυsтᴀ
Serah needed a way to be there before the Luminar crap, and nothing was said to me when I said it was a Noel/Serah log, even
моg gυsтᴀ
when I told you it might end up with sex since Noel hasn't officially gotten laid yet - it's been long enough that at least one is
моg gυsтᴀ
going to have to be a native handwave thing, but I mean, conversation in the cast, especially for a cast this small, hasn't been
моg gυsтᴀ
good from any of us
tamakin
well i didnt want to like, tell you what to do when it came to noels virginity since it's your character
tamakin
and like i said i misunderstood and thought it'd be an open log
tamakin
idk it's obvious there's miscommunication with all of us but
tamakin
i mean i have tried to plot with you and felt brushed off :/
моg gυsтᴀ
I don't remember any plotty conversations in the last month, and if I'm just forgetting and it's why you're feeling blown off, I'm sorry
моg gυsтᴀ
it's never been intentional
моg gυsтᴀ
August was oh shit drop everything so Kondou doesn't get thrown out
моg gυsтᴀ
and then the mingle posts happened and Noel's got 136489564186 tags, but I've tried to keep up on all of his current stuff with Hope
tamakin
ive tried a few conversations about doing stuff with noel but they never really went anywhere, so i guess it did kinda hurt that you
tamakin
wanted to suddenly ship with serah
tamakin
but ultimately its your character
моg gυsтᴀ
whoa, hold up
моg gυsтᴀ
just because Serah's intro is a backdate log that might end up in sex doesn't mean either one of us are exclusively "shipping"
tamakin
i know that
моg gυsтᴀ
anything that would keep anyone else from having any kind of smut cr with them
tamakin
but i do feel like whenever i asked to do stuff it just got kind of brushed aside
моg gυsтᴀ
as far as I can recall, we haven't had any of those conversations since August, and August was OHFUCK KONDOU for the last two weeks
моg gυsтᴀ
because I couldn't fucking get anyone to tag him
моg gυsтᴀ
it took two log posts and three threads just to get the bare minimum to keep him in game, and I couldn't even post it until the last day
tamakin
i even tried to have one with you after the log mention :<
tamakin
and i did before with the event
моg gυsтᴀ
right, where they're going to smut on the ship
моg gυsтᴀ
I thought that was something we agreed on
tamakin
i asked about it but just got a noncommittal response :/
моg gυsтᴀ
why didn't you just ask outright instead of stewing on it until you felt hurt enough to pp me?
tamakin
i hadn't stewed on anything
tamakin
it's just felt like each time i've tried to bring them up you hadn't seem interested, so i didnt want to keep bothering you with it :<
моg gυsтᴀ
well, that's what I mean - it's obviously been bothering you for a while, and I don't want that
tamakin
i wasnt sure what i should do, im not going to guilt someone into shipping with me, i just got the wrong impression i guess
tamakin
like i thought we'd do more of what happened with CWP but when none of the conversations came to anything i figured you werent interested
моg gυsтᴀ
allie, he hasn't even been in the game that long
tamakin
i know that
моg gυsтᴀ
I had his intro post and then had to drop it all to keep Kondou, I've told you that
tamakin
i understand that
tamakin
i'm referring solely to our conversations and then what the outcome was with him
моg gυsтᴀ
instead of us going back and forth like this, then, tell me what you want to plot with him
tamakin
when you first app'd him i thought we'd discussed him losing it to hope, but then every conversation thereafter ended up not going that way
моg gυsтᴀ
that was something I said in the im the other day, too, about how it's been so long that he's had to have fucked someone, somehow by now
моg gυsтᴀ
and unless we backdate a month and a half, we'll either have to handwave that Hope did him or I handwave an npc
tamakin
i guess i kinda feel like... you can backdate him doing something with serah, but not with hope? :\
моg gυsтᴀ
you couldn't just ask me to backdate something with Hope? did we have to have this giant plurk to get to that?
tamakin
i couldnt have asked that when you already decided on him and serah though :<
tamakin
and the plurk wasn't entirely about that either.
tamakin
it just kind of segued in this direction
моg gυsтᴀ
they haven't fucked in this log, allie
моg gυsтᴀ
it's two comments in
tamakin
you were planning on it though
моg gυsтᴀ
the log was intended to quietly get Serah active in the game post Luminar plot start without being all HAY I'M NEW!!! after new people
моg gυsтᴀ
couldn't come in anymore
tamakin
i understand what the log was intended for, but you did include that too :<
моg gυsтᴀ
look, seriously, you could have asked me to backdate something with Hope if this was bothering you so much
моg gυsтᴀ
it's a sex game
моg gυsтᴀ
people are supposed to fuck
моg gυsтᴀ
and the log says potential for sex later
моg gυsтᴀ
we haven't even decided if we want to go there yet
tamakin
whoa that's not what i even meant
tamakin
just nevermind
tamakin
sorry.
моg gυsтᴀ
no, I won't never mind, this is clearly a problem and we need to either resolve it or we need to get the hell out of this cast, because
моg gυsтᴀ
we're obviously causing problems
tamakin
im trying to discuss it with you but yu're just getting angry with me
моg gυsтᴀ
it's true, I am getting angry, because all of this is getting wildly blown out of proportion because neither of you bothered to talk to
моg gυsтᴀ
either of us about what you wanted for plotting and are now mad at us for leaving you out of something you wanted but we didn't know
моg gυsтᴀ
you wanted it, and on top of it, you're getting pissed at me for not knowing that you were seriously bothered by the virginity thing
моg gυsтᴀ
but you never told me, you just hinted at it and got hurt because I didn't pick up on the hints
моg gυsтᴀ
you guys have known since Sept 3 that anzu and I were planning a log
tamakin
that's what im trying to explain to you
tamakin
im bringing it up now
tamakin
youre mad at me for never bringing it up but i am now...
моg gυsтᴀ
I'm getting angry now because every thing I say to try to resolve this is met with sadfaces and more accusations
tamakin
just forget it, ok? i'll just go
tamakin
so i stop upsetting everyone
моg gυsтᴀ
I've offered to backdate something with Hope like three times, and not once have you acknowledged or accepted
моg gυsтᴀ
you just keep telling me how and why I fucked everything up
tamakin
i didnt see anything that looked like an offering, just reasons why IM a fuck up
tamakin
"why didnt you ask instead of making this big plurk" and such
tamakin
like my attempt to discuss things about the cast is just a big ol' hissy fit to you or something :<
tamakin
it's difficult to try and bring up why im upset about something if i get reactions like this, i dont know what else im supposed to do
tamakin
i never said that you fucked everything up or that you and anzu are causing problems for the cast and its a little unfair of you to write
tamakin
off what im saying as an attack when im trying to explain where im coming from and why i feel the way i do
tamakin
i havent made a single accusation in this plurk either
моg gυsтᴀ
you've been really PA about what you wanted and haven't gotten through dropping hints instead of just asking me to do something with you
tamakin
where have i been PA?
моg gυsтᴀ
I would have been totally willing to backdate something with Hope since, as I told you, August was pretty much shot in favor of Kondou
tamakin
i told you how i felt in this plurk and was met with you getting angry
моg gυsтᴀ
this entire plurk, allie
tamakin
that's not an acceptable answer for me
tamakin
i'm asking you where i've been PA
моg gυsтᴀ
I can copy paste it for you, but I don't think you'll like it
tamakin
if you just write off everything i've said that's extremely unfair and doesnt let me improve on anything
моg gυsтᴀ
but you just say the word, and I'll show you everything that's been PA
tamakin
i've spent this entire plurk trying to tell you how i've felt and first you told me im flinging accusations at you, now you're saying i'm
tamakin
being PA
tamakin
those are kind of opposite things
моg gυsтᴀ
I have offered to plot with you, I have offered to backdate a log with you, I have bent over backwards in this plurk to keep this from
моg gυsтᴀ
getting pissy and negative, and you haven't yet accepted a single offer
моg gυsтᴀ
you've just continued to tell me that you're hurt
моg gυsтᴀ
I get that
tamakin
you havent offered anything!
моg gυsтᴀ
I've been trying to fix that
моg gυsтᴀ
but you won't let me
моg gυsтᴀ
моg gυsтᴀ
you couldn't just ask me to backdate something with Hope? did we have to have this giant plurk to get to that?
tamakin
"why didnt you ask instead of blowing this out of proportion" and such is not offering
tamakin
yeah that's not... offering to me
моg gυsтᴀ
uh, well, it is to just about anyone else
моg gυsтᴀ
моg gυsтᴀ
look, seriously, you could have asked me to backdate something with Hope if this was bothering you so much
моg gυsтᴀ
also an offer
tamakin
stef i've tried to be rational with you in this discussion but all you've done is flip out at me
tamakin
so i cant continue it
моg gυsтᴀ
I would have been totally willing to backdate something with Hope since, as I told you, August was pretty much shot in favor of Kondou
моg gυsтᴀ
also an offer
tamakin
that is fine, yes
tamakin
but the others did not read that way to me
tamakin
you ask me why i dont bring things up with you but situations like this is why
tamakin
you get angry with me and just throw everything i say off as something horrible
моg gυsтᴀ
I don't know what you want from me
tamakin
at this point i'm probably just going to drop anyway, so
tamakin
dont worry about it
моg gυsтᴀ
apologizing for making you feel blown off and offering to do a backdate log isn't good enough, so what is
tamakin
just forget it
tamakin
im peacing out, with all the RL shit i dont have a strong enough threshold for this
tamakin
so you guys dont have to worry
моg gυsтᴀ
this is so ridiculous, this could all have been solved by saying "Yes, I would like a backdate log for Hope and yes, we would like to do
моg gυsтᴀ
logs with Serah for her arrival."
моg gυsтᴀ
but whatever
моg gυsтᴀ
you want to make this a huge drama, you go right on ahead and do that
tamakin
yeah i already know it's all my fault
tamakin
you were turning this into drama first stef, for fuck's sakes
моg gυsтᴀ
I've been nice to you, I've been offering you what you want, I've been apologizing to you, and not a damned word of it has meant anything
tamakin
you werent just doing that
tamakin
you were being hurtful
tamakin
i dont care anymore, if RP is going to make me fight with people i love and care about then it's not worth it
моg gυsтᴀ
.....what
tamakin
its just a fucking hobby
tamakin
so im sorry for all this
моg gυsтᴀ
what did I say that was hurtful?
tamakin
it doesnt matter i dont want to fight anymore
tamakin
im done with it
моg gυsтᴀ
you know what, no, don't even answer that
моg gυsтᴀ
I'm not talking about this anymore, to you or otherwise, I'm done
tamakin
you aren't talking to me anymore?
tamakin
over an RP argument?
tamakin
i am sorry for upsetting you