at the bottom of that, you'll see a pair of links which show the message history between hiddenpatriot and seviro








if you're unaware of what's been going on, two very large incidents involving seviro have occured:



---one which team thug calls "the seviro incident", where seviro began to fanatically stalk cloverpaw repeatedly, despite clover already being in a relationship and despite her saying "i don't want to take this any further" several times
it eventually ended up with seviro and clover confronting eachother, with clover spamming fullcapslock several times LEAVE ME ALONE, I DON'T WANT TO BE WITH YOU, GO AWAY to seviro, but he refused to leave her alone and the things he said began to become very obsessive and delusional, the rest of that and some chatlogs can be seen in the album

---the latest one is "the hidden incident", where hiddenpatriot left a group called team nib for a plethora of reasons and seviro and his goons hunted him down for it, i'll let hidden explain this story better later in the thread though, so we'll come to that later











now let me answer some of your maymay questions before you ask them

BUT MISTER GOREHOWL, YOU'RE TELLING SEVIRO TO STOP DRAMA BUT CREATING DRAMA YOURSELF :XDDD
we thought it would stop after the seviro incident, but it didn't, and as a result one of the old team thug members is quitting. if i need to start more drama to put the dramamachine seviro to rest, i'm going to do it


BUT MISTER GOREHOWL, YOU MISSED [X] PART OF THE STORY OUT, HERE'S WHAT HIDDEN/CLOVER DID WRONG
seviro stalked cloverpaw for weeks and if you look at the album, you'll see that clearly. it got to the point where he became delusional, as seviro began to believe that cloverpaw really deep down wanted to be with seviro, but seviro believed that her SO tom was FORCING her to say "LEAVE ME ALONE", and he thought that tom was threatening violence against her. for more on this, look at the screenshot where he says "this could have literally bloody consequences for her [if she doesn't say yes]"

as for hidden, from what i understand he was going through some IRL life issues at the time and wanted to leave team nib, but seviro wasn't fine with that and made it seem like he left for other reasons. i'll let hidden argue this too


BUT MISTER GOREHOWL, THESE SCREENSHOTS DON'T PROVE ANYTHING, SEVIRO WASN'T A STALKER AND HE DEFINITELY ISN'T STARTING DRAMA X^>DDD
everyone in our team thug social circle at the time came to accept that seviro was only in team thug in order to get closer to cloverpaw. despite clover telling him to leave her alone, he continued to try and justify himself. just take a look at the cloverpaw files at the bottom of the album, and tell me you think clover wanted to be in that situation
as for drama, only 4 people initially knew about the cloverpaw - seviro incident: me, clover, tom, seviro. despite this, he began bringing many more people into it, and lo and behold, now the public knows about it. a screenie for this can be seen in the album as well. as for the hidden incident, hidden wanted to leave team nib and leave it at that. but look what happened, and guess who started it


BUT MISTER GOREHOWL, YOU ARE BIASED AGAINST SEVIRO!
i really wasn't biased against seviro at all, but on the morning of the cloverpaw incident, he messaged me for a solid 4 - 5 hours straight, exactly 1 minute after i woke up. every message was him trying to justify himself, and the delusional things he came up with made me begin to change sides. >nobody else< decided this opinion for me, i realised how delusional my friend was so i tried to talk him out of it. after refusing this, i just stopped talking altogether, until eventually i learnt more from tom/clover and realised 90% of what he was saying to me was utter garbage that wasn't true. no, i wasn't biased against seviro, i made up my own conclusion from the evidence i saw before me. if you >still< think seviro is in the right after this, then there's something wrong with you

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE:

BUT MISTER GOREHOWL, YOU'RE LEAKING >PRIVATE< CHATLOGS BETWEEN YOU AND SEVIRO! THAT REALLY MAKES ME HATE YOUR ARGUEMENT

you would be overwhelmed with how many chatlogs seviro has leaked. private information clover told sev not to tell anyone? he told that to others as well. private messages between seviro and hidden? yep. bringing others into this when he shouldn't have? oh boy, yes. asking for support from his friends by linking cropped parts of chat? indeed.

what interests me the most is, despite all the chatlogs he's leaked, whilst trying to justify himself he sent me NONE of the chatlogs between cloverpaw and him. coincidentally, every single one of them showed what a delusional psychopath seviro is.

seviro doesn't value privacy when it comes to chatlogs, as if you read many of the images in that album, you'll see exactly what i mean.
























oh and another point - seviro made team nib himself (profiting off of hidden's idea for team nib) in order to make clover jealous.


any doubts about any of this?
ask clover herself, ask hidden himself. let them tell you their takes on the story. after this thread though, i hope that sevipero will stop starting drama, but we can only hope

i made this with both of their consents, chat logs (except seviros for obvious reasons) all came with consent