Mental Reflection

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2:03:18 PMⓘ 9 dead and 16 injured in car attack on pedestrians in Toronto
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2:03:42 PM+LowInformationVoterI don't understand the concept of sharing that story as the topic.
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2:14:20 PM+LowInformationVoterHi, |WP|.
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2:14:32 PM+LowInformationVoterWe're currently terrorizing ourselves with this one random event in this one Earth city.
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2:14:37 PM+LowInformationVoterWelcome!
2:14:44 PM+|WP|: )
2:14:53 PM+|WP|LowInformationVoter:  thanks
2:15:18 PM+LowInformationVoterMay the resultant emotions you experience push you to elect ever more fascist Republicans.
2:16:28 PM+LowInformationVoterYou guys ever hear that if you're 20 and you're not liberal, you lack a heart, but if you're 40 and not conservative, you lack a brain?
2:16:46 PM+LowInformationVoterTurns out that 40-year olds are often parents and being a parent makes you more fear-focused as you desire to not lose your clone.
2:16:57 PM+LowInformationVoterThat is, nothing about their experience is privileged.
2:31:59 PM+BS_LewisLooks like the driver of the van was a white bald guy
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2:39:45 PM+CaveGuyur girl friends?
2:40:13 PM+CaveGuyhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/23/yeti-cuts-ties-nra-foundation-lobbyist-say...
2:40:41 PM+LowInformationVoterI don't understand the obsession with some acts of violence/some deaths.
2:40:47 PM+LowInformationVoterCan anybody help me understand?
2:40:57 PM+LowInformationVoterCaveGuy: Yetis are mythical creatures.
2:41:10 PM+CaveGuythey are nice..i want one bad now
2:41:26 PM+CaveGuyi have their travel mug
2:41:32 PM+CaveGuyfriend gave it to me
2:42:03 PM+LowInformationVotern the folklore of Nepal, the Yeti (/ˈjɛti/)[4] or Abominable Snowman (Nepali: हिममानव himamānav, lit. "snow man") is an ape-like entity, taller than an average human, that is said to inhabit the Himalayan region of Nepal, Bhutan, and Tibet.
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2:51:42 PM+BS_LewisIt can't be terrorism, he was white
2:52:02 PM+BS_LewisIt was a drunk hockey fan who prematurely got wasted 5 hours before the big game tonight
2:52:43 PM+BS_LewisOr maybe he wasn't drunk, and he did this so our shitty team has something to rally behind and win
2:52:51 PM+LowInformationVoterI forget how many humans die each day -- I think it's about ~200k.
2:52:54 PM+BS_LewisLETS WIN TONIGHT BOYS!
2:53:13 PM+LowInformationVoterHowever, these nine are a focus of concern.
2:53:36 PM+LowInformationVoterLooks like it's closer to 150k/day.
2:57:34 PM+PorcelainPorcupinenothing ever happens that can't be connected to Trump...if you're CaveGuy
2:58:16 PM+LowInformationVoterPorcelainPorcupine: Please grade Trump's presidency thus far on a [0,1] scale.
3:00:48 PM+PorcelainPorcupineLowInformationVoter: i give him an i
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3:03:30 PMprocessWhoa
3:03:57 PMprocessUnbanned... From being banned for insulting someone's dead mom after they insulted my dead mother first.
3:04:03 PMprocessRaped out troll nigger chan.
3:04:11 PMprocessMabus: sup raped out nigger
3:06:05 PM+BS_LewisCaveGuy: Yeah, Americans are garbage people
3:06:20 PM+BS_LewisDeath to Amerikkka
3:06:42 PM+BS_LewisD-E-A-T-H
3:07:17 PM+BS_Lewissemma: Did you see the video of the driver pumping his phone like a gun? He had moves like Michael Jackson
3:07:30 PM@karstensragelord the crazy shit going on
3:07:47 PM+BS_Lewiskarstensrage: Don't worry, I'm okay kars. That happened in a shitty part of the city
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3:08:58 PM@Forest`hello
3:09:09 PM@Forest`hi CaveGuy
3:09:14 PM@Forest`hi NaughtyCanid
3:09:18 PM+BS_LewisMy prediction is that this driver is mentally ill
3:11:23 PM+BS_LewisSome guy who's quite upset that he didn't get his maple syrup rations
3:11:46 PM+LowInformationVoterkarstensrage: What crazy shit is going on.
3:13:22 PM@Forest`a guy in a truck drove into a crowd and killed at least 9 people, in Toronto
3:14:36 PM+BS_Lewisi dont feel safe on the sidewalks anymore
3:15:17 PM@Forest`theoretically they are still safer than the middle of the street :\
3:15:56 PM+BS_Lewishold me
3:16:14 PM@Forest`I don't think so.
3:16:40 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: Are you answering my question?
3:16:52 PM@Forest`no LowInformationVoter, just responding to BS_Lewis
3:17:07 PM@Forest`LowInformationVoter oh, yes, if you mean about the truck driver
3:17:18 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: Have you had an emotional reaction to this event?
3:17:29 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: I would like to detail my reaction to this story.
3:17:58 PM+LowInformationVoter"There are media organizations that push information on a subset of events that occur on Earth."
3:18:02 PM@Forest`it was barely a blip on my emotional scale unfortunately. There are just too many things like that happening all the time
3:18:15 PM+LowInformationVoter"People died in this event. Humans care about some types of deaths much more than other types of death."
3:18:38 PM+LowInformationVoter"Humans are persistently irrational when assessing risks, in general, and especially when the risks involve death."
3:18:59 PM+LowInformationVoter"This event being pushed fits a narrative that is being constructed/debated in my top-level society."
3:19:14 PM@karstensragehow are you supposed to asses the risk of so many crazy fucks
3:19:21 PM+LowInformationVoter"The most important thing for me to do in this situation is to assess the risk with scientific methodology, and to moderate my emotions with techniques from Buddhism."
3:19:23 PM+LowInformationVoterThat is my reaction.
3:19:58 PM@karstensrageBS_Lewis, any clue why this crazy in particular did this
3:20:00 PM@karstensrage?
3:20:05 PM+LowInformationVoterI'd like to point out that everything I've described thus far is a meta-reaction.
3:20:11 PM+BS_Lewiskarstensrage: nobody knows
3:20:22 PM+LowInformationVoterI think it's important to have meta-reactions before reactions as part of the process of equanimity.
3:20:32 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: What types of things are similar to this?
3:20:55 PM+LowInformationVoterkarstensrage: Do you have any reason to believe there are any types of risk poorly assessed through scientific methodology?
3:20:56 PM+BS_Lewissardaukar: we need ballards every 4 feet on the sidewalks
3:20:57 PM+LowInformationVoterI do not.
3:21:33 PM+LowInformationVoterBS_Lewis: What is a ballard?
3:22:33 PM+LowInformationVoterkarstensrage: Do you agree that the word "crazy" is used by English speakers to indicate confusion?
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3:22:53 PM+LowInformationVoterThat is, it is not a word of content or description of a non-mental event, but, rather, a mental event of the analyzer.
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3:23:21 PM+LowInformationVoterThe word "van", for example, describes a non-mental event (according to standard metaphysics).
3:24:08 PM+LowInformationVoterkarstensrage: Do you believe it is more important or less important to be precise and calm in times you perceive to be stressful?
3:24:13 PM+LowInformationVoterI believe it is more important.
3:24:21 PM+LowInformationVoter(There are no stressful events, however)
3:24:30 PM@Forest`i don't equate "crazy" with "confused". I equate "crazy" with deranged, wrong headed, but not necessarily confused
3:24:46 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: Why doesn't science sue the word "crazy", then?
3:24:53 PM+LowInformationVoteruse
3:25:50 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: karstensrage is having a personal, mental experience.
3:25:54 PM@Forest`LowInformationVoter not everyone is a scientist. Generally people know what someone means when they say "crazy". They don't think we're actually diagnosing a person - just described their behavior
3:26:02 PM+LowInformationVoterHe is sharing that persona, mental experience with us, with the usage of "crazy".
3:26:14 PM+LowInformationVoterHe seems to be communicating that he doesn't understand 'why this happened/happens'.
3:26:32 PM+LowInformationVoterThis is a wonderful opportunity for karstensrage to learn more about his mind, which is the most important goal in life, rather than trying to avoid vans.
3:27:23 PM@Forest`LowInformationVoter you are making a mountain out of a molehill
3:27:45 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: I think that's a low-information quip.
3:28:08 PM* Forest` shrugs
3:28:13 PM@Forest`enjoy yourself, LowInformationVoter.
3:28:40 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: Events in our lives have precisely as much significance as we imbue them with.
3:29:06 PM@Forest`LowInformationVoter and right now your obsession with this topic is having precisely no signifance in my life :)
3:29:31 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: If your perception is correct, then you should disengage.
3:29:43 PM+LowInformationVoterYour perception could be a misperception.
3:30:08 PM+LowInformationVoterForest`: We are describing the perception(s) of a 'single' event.
3:30:12 PM@Forest`TonySnark i firgured
3:30:24 PM+LowInformationVoterThe importance of that event varies from the context of the agent processing that event.
3:30:44 PM+LowInformationVoterIf the process is strictly analyzing traffic flow through an intersection 17km to the West, the event did not occur.
3:31:13 PM+BS_LewisFascinating. Please continue.
3:31:17 PM+LowInformationVoterIf the process is a human being driven by neo-conservative political ideology with low-adherence to scientific methodology, this event is Just Another Terrorist Attack by the Other.
3:31:48 PM+LowInformationVoterIf the process is being driven by Buddhist methodology that states all perceptions are created by the process itself, every perception offers a window into the process itself and takes on great importance.