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  1. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:00 PM
  2. !rsvp ping
  3. RSVPBotBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:00 PM
  4. @Nulligun @Towd @Aurocheen @ellaismer @Kimi Sian-Yu Chen @limax @Al @mechagenius @DeSVaR
  5. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:02 PM
  6. @here Our dev meeting this week starts now! If you have any agenda you want to discuss, please raise your voice!
  7.  
  8. From development side, I'm still busy getting the final bits of multi-geth done. So I don't have many things to discuss. (Or if you have any questions related to multi-geth, please feel free to ask!)
  9. I think @Towd might have something to discuss related to new Community Fund. If he/she's not there, we might have a really short meeting this week. :laughing:
  10. DeSVaR - 07/04/2018 at 11:03 PM
  11. I would like to talk about yesteray giveaway and possible future ones(edited)
  12. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:04 PM
  13. Sure! :smiley:
  14. DeSVaR - 07/04/2018 at 11:05 PM
  15. I need 10ish minutes to get to PC
  16. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:05 PM
  17. also @terra-pescado can share his ideas (i think)(edited)
  18. Kimi Sian-Yu Chen - 07/04/2018 at 11:07 PM
  19. arrived :yum:
  20. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:09 PM
  21. I am still waiting for a response from the old community fund guys. I think things are not looking too promising. They really don't seem to even want to talk to me now that I'm trying to pin them down on a commitment to sign over funds. Last week they were at least making demands for refunds, etc. So, there it is.
  22. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:10 PM
  23. JayGatsbys: :eyes:
  24. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:10 PM
  25. I have 5 signees, but I still would like to get someone from the web development group and the Telegram to commit to the new Community Fund Wallet.
  26. I'm also open to anyone else as long as we get a diverse group of signers.
  27. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:10 PM
  28. JayGatsbys: Yes
  29. JayGatsbys: Everyone here? AI?(edited)
  30. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:11 PM
  31. @Towd I'll join one of the missing groups
  32. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:12 PM
  33. Great, thanks Limax.
  34. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:12 PM
  35. no problem
  36. Nulligun - 07/04/2018 at 11:13 PM
  37. How many of the signers will be anonymous?
  38. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:13 PM
  39. @Towd And have we asked whether all signers is okay to either be non-anonymous or has been in the Ellaism community for a long time?
  40. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:14 PM
  41. I have not specified that.
  42. Is that something we want to do?
  43. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:14 PM
  44. Personally I would strongly suggest we do that. Otherwise we may face the same problem as the old one..
  45. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:15 PM
  46. JayGatsbys (in reply to @ellaismer): Yep
  47. JayGatsbys: Ellaismer will whyral be any use to us?
  48. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:16 PM
  49. JayGatsbys: Whyral is unrelated to Ellaism. I've asked @sc0rp1on not to promote it in Ellaism community.
  50. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:16 PM
  51. Okay, if people wish to remain anonymous, I'll look into length of time that they have been supporting the project.
  52. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:17 PM
  53. JayGatsbys (in reply to @ellaismer): Oh ok
  54. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:17 PM
  55. I would recommend at least 4-5 months if people wish to remain anonymous. And @Towd how many people is anonymous now?
  56. DeSVaR - 07/04/2018 at 11:18 PM
  57. I would like to know if its necessary to make new wallet to be a signee. And if it needs to be I will share my bio
  58. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:18 PM
  59. JayGatsbys: Anonymous for the public can stay yes?
  60. DeSVaR - 07/04/2018 at 11:19 PM
  61. I mean, if we need names
  62. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:19 PM
  63. JayGatsbys: Only the team needs to know real names(edited)
  64. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:20 PM
  65. @DeSVaR Yes. If we don't get the old wallet back on time, we'll just start a new wallet.
  66. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:20 PM
  67. @ellaismer Sounds good. I think it will not be a problem, I'll just doublecheck the volunteers.
  68. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:20 PM
  69. @Towd Great!
  70. Aurocheen - 07/04/2018 at 11:21 PM
  71. Im still up for donating 300 for the contest if we start the new one as well
  72. DeSVaR - 07/04/2018 at 11:21 PM
  73. @ellaismer I mean if it's recommended that i make a new wallet for signing my part if I become signee.
  74. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:21 PM
  75. @ellaismer Right now, everyone on the list is Anonymous as far as I know. But some people may be willing to put their name with their signatures, I will check.
  76. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:22 PM
  77. JayGatsbys: Haha
  78. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:22 PM
  79. My only other business is exchanges. Last week it was suggested we apply to NovaExchange as another small to medium sized exchange. I found out however that they have shut down new member registrations and I presume new coin listings as well. So instead I've put in an application at Yobit. They offer tiered application fees with I assume varying odds of acceptance, but one of the tiers is "free". So we'll see. Application response time is about a week.
  80. Jay, you should be our signee to represent the Telegram community. You've been here long enough to remain anonymous. :smile:
  81. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:23 PM
  82. JayGatsbys: Nove didnt close
  83. JayGatsbys: They are not that bad(edited)
  84. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:23 PM
  85. They are not closed, but they are not doing new signups.
  86. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:23 PM
  87. JayGatsbys: Not yet
  88. JayGatsbys: A new team just took over
  89. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:23 PM
  90. When they re-open, I'll apply.
  91. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:24 PM
  92. JayGatsbys: Yea
  93. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:26 PM
  94. That is all my updates from Com-Fund and Exchanges.
  95. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:26 PM
  96. I have few things to put here
  97. first, do we have any chance to recover old Twitter account?
  98. there are any possible actions that we can take?
  99. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:27 PM
  100. @Towd And regarding Telegram group, we may want to ask @AI if haven't.
  101. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:27 PM
  102. @ellaismer Will do.
  103. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:28 PM
  104. JayGatsbys (in reply to @ellaismer): Yes AI would do he told me(edited)
  105. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:28 PM
  106. @limax I don't think Twitter cares about those. So I think our chance to recover that is slim.
  107. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:29 PM
  108. @Towd we can use more members from one group, so from telegram we can have 2
  109. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:29 PM
  110. (And we still need more members to manage the @EllaismProject handle. See #welcome for details.)
  111. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:29 PM
  112. JayGatsbys (in reply to @limax): Please try
  113. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:30 PM
  114. if we cannot recover old account we need to make an effort and update links on different websites
  115. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:31 PM
  116. It's already updated in most of the places. CMC has correct informations AFAICT, and most other websites only link to ellaism.org.
  117. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:31 PM
  118. JayGatsbys: Maybe if Ellaismer would ask Twitter :cowboy:(edited)
  119. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:32 PM
  120. I think we need the marketing working group
  121. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:34 PM
  122. @limax Is this related to social networks? If so, let's name it social networks working group. I just think marketing is too vague, but that's just a small grumble. :laughing:
  123. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:35 PM
  124. the name is not important for me, the important thing is to have something to guide different actions
  125. like the one started by @DeSVaR
  126. and also a place where to comment the actions and efforts in that direction
  127. thanks @ellaismer
  128. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:37 PM
  129. @limax Either way, I created both. :laughing:
  130. There's #marketing under umbrella, and the #social-networks working group.
  131. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:38 PM
  132. I think #marketing will be a nice place to dump community artwork to we don't spam up #ideas. So, it'll be nice to have in that sense.
  133. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:39 PM
  134. @Towd good idea
  135. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:40 PM
  136. And I think it's time we collect all working group names and put it on the Team page in the website. I think the simplest approach is that if you think you're a leader of a working group, you simply post a message there (saying you should be considered to be included in the Team page), and include a short bio. And just like before, we have the good will assumption -- if you don't get downvotes, it's most likely a yes, otherwise we consider it case-by-case.
  137. (And please write a good bio of yourself when you do!)
  138.  
  139. How does everyone think about this?(edited)
  140. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:40 PM
  141. :smile:
  142. I was close to discuss about the same thing
  143. DeSVaR - 07/04/2018 at 11:41 PM
  144. About twitter account there is chance to close it. In Germany they/we have Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz (Network Enforcement Act) . And the laws there are strong enough to force twitter to closse account.
  145. I can take over that action, but we need to agree
  146. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:42 PM
  147. also if you do this please use an official email account
  148. @ellaismer can help with this
  149. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:42 PM
  150. @DeSVaR Sure! I have no objection if you take over.
  151. And if you don't have an email address @ellaism.com already, please PM me and I'll help you to set up.
  152. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:43 PM
  153. Can be a small chance to recover the account if the action will start from an official account
  154. I mean we can prove that is hurting this project by using the name, the logo and so
  155. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:45 PM
  156. No, I think it is a good idea to close it down. I had been using it as one of my communication lines to the old Com-Fund guys (CountCryptula), but with that drying up I no longer need it. And the @ellaismcoin account continues to confuse people to this day.
  157. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:46 PM
  158. ok, @DeSVaR can you start this process?
  159. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:47 PM
  160. JayGatsbys: AI asked me in dm if it maybe is a good idea to get a tip bot in this tg chat or is that to silly? Just wanted to ask you guys.
  161. DeSVaR - 07/04/2018 at 11:47 PM
  162. Yes, i will take over. Shall I go towards account deletion or recover?
  163. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:47 PM
  164. JayGatsbys: Maybe Ellaism will be to serious for this so i dont know
  165. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:47 PM
  166. Ah, sorry. Regarding tip bot I just didn't have the time to get it done. It's on the list.
  167. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:48 PM
  168. JayGatsbys: Oh really
  169. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:48 PM
  170. @DeSVaR I would go for recovery first.
  171. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:48 PM
  172. @DeSVaR I still think we shold try to recover first by exposing the situation
  173. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:49 PM
  174. JayGatsbys: Ok haha i know some groups that are tipping a lot. Should get them over to Ellaism
  175. almuntje (in reply to JayGatsbys): Yes, tipbot is opensource
  176. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:50 PM
  177. @DeSVaR You can use the debriefing from the website also, I think
  178. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:50 PM
  179. JayGatsbys: Yea, Ellaismer will fix it
  180. JayGatsbys (in reply to almuntje): Good you are here
  181. almuntje (in reply to JayGatsbys): 4pm is 6pm where I live. Not a good time for me
  182. almuntje: Anyway
  183. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:52 PM
  184. regarding the website I think @CryptoFern is busy in this period and the presentation part will be delayed
  185. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:52 PM
  186. almuntje: Jay, will you be a signee?
  187. almuntje: Or what are your thoughts about it
  188. JayGatsbys (in reply to almuntje): Well talk Dm
  189. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:53 PM
  190. I'll start the wiki part next week and I'll ask for volunteers in #website-development
  191. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:53 PM
  192. almuntje (in reply to JayGatsbys): :ok_hand:
  193. DeSVaR - 07/04/2018 at 11:54 PM
  194. OK, I will start tomorrow with gathering all information and evidence.
  195. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:55 PM
  196. @Towd regarding your campaign do we still wait?
  197. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:55 PM
  198. Without funds. I'm putting it on hold. I got too much on my plate anyway.
  199. If you want to lead it, I'll help.
  200. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:56 PM
  201. I'll look over it and we can discuss
  202. Towd - 07/04/2018 at 11:56 PM
  203. Otherwise, let's revisit it in a week. I'm pretty fried this week.
  204. These old comfund guys are infuriating to be honest. :stuck_out_tongue:
  205. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:57 PM
  206. JayGatsbys: Yes to say the least
  207. limax - 07/04/2018 at 11:58 PM
  208. We will get more donations, we just need a new account to collect I think
  209. ellaismer - 07/04/2018 at 11:59 PM
  210. (If it's really too difficult, I'd say let's just get over with it and focus on setting up the new funds.)
  211. Al - 07/04/2018 at 11:59 PM
  212. @ellaismer What will be the role of Ellaism at Ethereum social?
  213. EllagramBOT - 07/04/2018 at 11:59 PM
  214. JayGatsbys: They are very young i think.(edited)
  215. Towd - 08/04/2018 at 12:00 AM
  216. Yeah, we still need our com-fund setup. So I'm just approaching it one step at a time. When I first brought up the marketing idea. I had thought we'd run it in April, but I think it wont be much of an issue to push it back another week or so. We kind of want to do it at the same time the overall market is turning and money is coming back in, IMHO. So, I don't see a rush while we are still in a bear market. Right now, getting our house in order should be a top priority.
  217. EllagramBOT - 08/04/2018 at 12:00 AM
  218. JayGatsbys (in reply to @Towd): Pot smoking gamers.
  219. Towd - 08/04/2018 at 12:00 AM
  220. We should be able to get the new com-fund set up this week.
  221. ellaismer - 08/04/2018 at 12:01 AM
  222. @Al That's an unrelated coin. If you ask why we accept other coins in multi-geth, it's because that's our optimal strategy and it's also what multi-geth is about. If we don't add them, they would just fork and that's not good for either party. So our rules currently for adding new Ethereum coins to multi-geth is just that the coin's developer can provide support (i.e. they can submit a PR to our multi-geth repo without major issue.)
  223. Al - 08/04/2018 at 12:03 AM
  224. @ellaismer Will it benefit Ellaism in any way?
  225. limax - 08/04/2018 at 12:03 AM
  226. We need to involve more members in the working groups
  227. Including the telegram members
  228. ellaismer - 08/04/2018 at 12:03 AM
  229. @Al Because it's a coin with totally different visions, I don't think it benefits Ellaism directly.
  230. DeSVaR - 08/04/2018 at 12:06 AM
  231. I would like to know, what are everyones thought about giveaways and how to approach with execution of them(edited)
  232. ellaismer - 08/04/2018 at 12:09 AM
  233. @DeSVaR I think the first major issue is where the giveaway funds come from. Once that's settled, there're many ideas to get the giveaway going such as @Towd's campaign.(edited)
  234. limax - 08/04/2018 at 12:09 AM
  235. @DeSVaR That's why I asked for #marketing / #social-networks
  236. To discuss there before
  237. DeSVaR - 08/04/2018 at 12:10 AM
  238. Sorry I missed that
  239. limax - 08/04/2018 at 12:14 AM
  240. I think we don't have more to discuss for this week. I'm sure more discussions will be, as always, in the groups
  241. ellaismer - 08/04/2018 at 12:14 AM
  242. Great. If there's nothing else, let's close the meeting!
  243. Last chance for everyone. @here :smiley:
  244. Towd - 08/04/2018 at 12:15 AM
  245. Sounds good!
  246. EllagramBOT - 08/04/2018 at 12:15 AM
  247. almuntje:
  248.  
  249. almuntje: :smile:
  250. ellaismer - 08/04/2018 at 12:15 AM
  251. !rsvp set-date 14 April
  252. RSVPBotBOT - 08/04/2018 at 12:15 AM
  253. RSVP date set to 14 April.
  254. ellaismer - 08/04/2018 at 12:15 AM
  255. !rsvp clear
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