El Fubario - Today at 6:25 AM
if you still want to message Void then you probably should stop. if you want to talk and have a civil conversation i am listening.
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:26 AM
fubar, you do not know how angry and stressed i am at the moment
El Fubario - Today at 6:27 AM
Syl, I had to be dealing with you being agry and stressed without listening to others for how long? if you need time to have a civil conversation then i can wait
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:28 AM
i thought this really childish and petty drama could finally be laid to rest, but ha ha! i guess not!
i am willing to truce and agree with void for us both to put this drama to rest and go our separate ways, but apparently that is not on the table anymore
El Fubario - Today at 6:29 AM
what do you mean, not on the table? was Void harassing you?
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:29 AM
Born from the ashes of Homestuck Discords, from death and anarchy, through years of genetic pruning and ectobiology, an epic mod team was born. The Mutiny chat, post-dubbed the Vodka Mutini chat, was made from a chat with no pulse, and one ruled by a tyrant. Together, these chats have formed into something new and wholesome. A splinter community that loves roleplay, art, and music- and works to include all, in a fair and just manner.

Hello! I'm Void, the head admin of the Mutiny (Vodka Mutini) Discord Server!

I'm here to extend an invitation and a welcoming hand to anyone here on MSPARP that likes the community, and wishes to stay connected with the members of MSPARP!

We are an LGBTQIA+, Furry, and whatever else you might be, friendly server! We are a wholesome SFW server, modded by some of the prominent members of the MSPARP Forums- Myself, Kase, ThunderFang, Pineapple, Calamari, and Fubar.

Our community (as of right now) consists of ~45 members, and we're still growing! We have Tatsumakibot, Aradiabot, and Fredboat, for all of your social networking, shipping, and music needs!

We run sessions, AUs, and other roleplays, as well as have extensive experience in helping others run theirs! We have talented artists and musicians practically bursting at the seams to show their art, as well as give advice and ideas.
and one ruled by a tyrant.
i don't know about you, but that's definitley a vague about me
El Fubario - Today at 6:30 AM
isn't it about ex MSPARP owner instead?
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:30 AM
it's really open-ended and vague
El Fubario - Today at 6:31 AM
give me a minute please.
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:33 AM
alright.
El Fubario - Today at 6:36 AM
give me 5 minutes more
NA was not the only server we were on. I don't expect you to believe me but I can assure that nobody on Mutie server goes out to harass and namedrop anyone in particular, yourself included.
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:48 AM
i saw screencaps of you comparing me to Nadia, a confirmed pedophile that knowingly roleplayed sexual situations with minors, and asked for underage nudes

El Fubario - Today at 6:50 AM
confirmed asking for underage nudes?
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:51 AM
from what i've heard about them, yes
El Fubario - Today at 6:51 AM
could you give me a prooflink on that part? NAdia was confirmed to be a lolishota rper but i have not seen anything about her doing actualy child predatoring
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:51 AM
it was from word of mouth
El Fubario - Today at 6:51 AM
execuse me but "from what i heard" is not "confirmed" in this case. it is just a gossip
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:51 AM
true
El Fubario - Today at 6:52 AM
on that note, when I compared you to Magneto, why do i think i did that? was i calling you a master of metal manipulation?
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:52 AM
magneto was a victim of predjudice, but became a monstrous bigot himself.
my thing is, if a problem user goes unpunished, they will begin to think what they do is perfectly acceptable, and that is not okay
rae was banned from the anarchy discord, right?
El Fubario - Today at 6:55 AM
you go out of your way to harass Rachel, to namedrop her and you go out of your way to protect s8.
the difference? they are both problem users but the difference is that Rachel PERSONALLY insulted you while s8 is YOUR PERSONAL friend
from my standpoint that is bias
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:56 AM
i have had void complain about S8 venting..
in the venting channel.
El Fubario - Today at 6:56 AM
and if you took my comparison to Nadia as me calling you a pedophile i AM sorry for that

see, my beef with Nadia was that she was abusing the mods (repeatedly) and was threatening to leave PARP
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:56 AM
and i've had complaints about rae that were brushed off because "oh it's coming from S8's friends"
complaints are to be taken seriously and to NOT be brushed off
El Fubario - Today at 6:57 AM
i am not talking about Void, i am talking about your judgement
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:57 AM
the alleged doxxing of void and rae by s8 were unfounded and had no evidence to go off of
El Fubario - Today at 6:58 AM
as much as dragging on the pointless arguments is i would like to get back on the point
that MSPARP post said "and one ruled by a tyrant." it did not namedrop you or NA. it did not list any habit of yours. it only applies to those who consider themselves tyrants. it might be about any previous discord server owner
Sylandrophol - Today at 6:59 AM
but it was still an open-ended vague, is it not?
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:00 AM
vagueing is a very shitty thing to do, and is a tactic used by abusers
for example, a vague about you could be "man, some people should really shut up about old video games and stop with the silly art"
it is open-ended, and when you go "hey, are you talking about me?" the person goes "oh, NO it wasn't"
El Fubario - Today at 7:06 AM
funny how you might be willing to insult me but that's besides the point:)
for you seem to be confusing the intent

if that post was going with the reasoning you provided it would sound like "and not one lead by Latula-obsessed tyrant"
ftr if you DID take offence to what i just said, i apologize.

but your grief is effectively "we had a beef with a person in the past"
'wait, i am a person! they must be talking about me!"

No, Syl. There are indeed many people who can be interpreted as tyrants so it is not a roundabout way of being vague while making it blatantkly clear who i am talking about in truth
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:07 AM
can you not be passive-aggressive with me fubar?
that's all i ask
El Fubario - Today at 7:07 AM
did i come off as passive-agressive in this current discussion?
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:08 AM
funny how you might be willing to insult me but that's besides the point:)
for you seem to be confusing the intent
i am not being passive-aggressive to you, fubar
El Fubario - Today at 7:08 AM
i see. then who were you implying by that post with old videogames and the shitty art?
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:09 AM
it was an example of a vague.
El Fubario - Today at 7:09 AM
so you were talking about nobody in particular
and most definitely not me
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:10 AM
do you see where i'm coming from, though?
El Fubario - Today at 7:10 AM
so you are not talking about me, do you?
just go ahead and say yes or no
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:11 AM
it was a vague fubar, it is open-ended
El Fubario - Today at 7:11 AM
i fail to see what is preventing you from telling 'yes' or 'no' but that's, as i said, besides the point
again, the ":)" was meant to say i am laughing at it, not me insulting you in a passive-agressive way
i DO have a habit of coming off as passive-agressive but i can promise i did not mean to be passive-agressive  when i said that
as for your point, i can only repeat my statement
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:13 AM
listen fubar, i can argue this with you until the cows come home, but i think we can both agree that we have better things to do than argue like two knuckleheads
El Fubario - Today at 7:14 AM
i am just trying to phrase my wording better. give me a moment, i am almost finished
if that post was going to be vague but still easily nterpreted it would have looked different

for example, this is how it would sound if being worded to be a vague insult aimed at me AND nobody else that the original poster had any beef with with the reasoning you provided it would sound like "and not one lead by Cronus-worshipping Vriska-hating tyrant"

but your grief is effectively "we had a beef with a person in the past"
'wait, i am a person! they must be talking about me!"
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:15 AM
and i understand where you're coming from
El Fubario - Today at 7:16 AM
so again, there is little reason for you to take that as an attack on yourself (unless you consider yourself a tyrant [again, it could have been a mod of any other discord server we were on]) and zero reason to take it as a badly-masked insult aimed specially at you
if i just have come as offhandedly calling you a tyrant i DO apologize
(trust me, if i would want to call you that i would do just that - i am not trying to insult you, i promise. i am explaining that that post on PARP is not a personal attack)
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:18 AM
as i still said before, it is still vague and open-ended
El Fubario - Today at 7:19 AM
and as i have said it can be applied to many people and i fail to see the reason you took it as a personal attack
i haven't been born yesterday. repeating the same statement even after i have provided a rebuttal will get you nowhere
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:19 AM
yes, and i know that
but considering who made the post, i think i have my concerns straight and valid
El Fubario - Today at 7:21 AM
to rephrase what i have said above Void has been visiting several servers and was on PARP too so it doesn't mean she wanted to target you in particular because, again, it can apply to several people who were PARP admin and admins of other discord servers
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:22 AM
and i get where you're coming from
but the mutiny server was formed out of drama and spite
El Fubario - Today at 7:22 AM
you come off as not getting what i mean

i might be wrong tho
as for Mutie server I don't agree with you
it was made because people on NA got in a drama and left but those people wanted to have a place where they can hang out with their friends
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:23 AM
the mutie server, in my own opinion, really comes off as a "HEY! LOOK AT HOW MUCH FUN WE'RE HAVING FUN WITHOUT YOU, SYL!"
El Fubario - Today at 7:24 AM
ok i am sorry for what i am about to say in advance
Not everything in this world is about you.
it is "hey, look! we're having fun! wanna join?", not a way to show "we're having so much fun without that one person"
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:25 AM
you sound just like my dad, fubar
just like him
El Fubario - Today at 7:25 AM
i do respect your gender identity ftr
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:26 AM
"NOT EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD IS ABOUT YOU, SYL, BLAH BLAH BLAH, I DO SO MUCH FOR YOU AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE APPRECIATING IT"
El Fubario - Today at 7:27 AM
My point was "not everything is about you, if we are having fun in some other place it's because we are hanging out with our friends, not because we want to spite one person in particular"
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:28 AM
keep in mind void made the moderation channels visible, attempted to wreck house, and did everyone pings in an attempt to fork people over from my discord, onto her discord
El Fubario - Today at 7:28 AM
Void did that? not anyone else?
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:28 AM
i believe kase also did it, along with thunderfang
correct me if i'm wrong
El Fubario - Today at 7:29 AM
as for myself i can admit i invited people i wanted to hang out with. namely Jeepers and Vin

please understand that the users you have on your server are not your private property
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:29 AM
and i understand that
El Fubario - Today at 7:29 AM
if you do understand that why do you act like you don't?
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:30 AM
but doing everyone ping spams to get people over to your discord?
that is not acceptable
El Fubario - Today at 7:30 AM
i wasn't around when that everyone ping was happening
i was asleep, you know
heck, you demodded me when i was asleep too
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:30 AM
yes
El Fubario - Today at 7:31 AM
see?  no reason for that, no explanation
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:31 AM
living in the past means that you won't get to see the future
and i am sure you want this drama to end, much like everyone else
El Fubario - Today at 7:32 AM
correct me if i am wrong
but i see your current actions as "well, i did that, this and this but how about you just forget about all i did?"
i will not forget
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:33 AM
actions speak louder than words, fubar
El Fubario - Today at 7:33 AM
what was that about?
that argument, i really fail to see what you are trying to achieve
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:33 AM
not for only you, and me, but for everyone
El Fubario - Today at 7:33 AM
Syl
Listen up.
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:34 AM
and i am listening, fubar
El Fubario - Today at 7:34 AM
Stop avoiding the responsibility for what you did and hide behind buzzwords and repeating yourself over and over and over.
Listen to me, for a change.
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:35 AM
if i'm going to be honest here, both sides were in the wrong
but do you know what we do?
we look at it, and move on
El Fubario - Today at 7:35 AM
no
we look at it, we look at our mistakes and we CORRECT them
instead of handwaving them behind
again, i have explained how that post was not a personal attack on you.
So please tell me what is your problem with Mutie server or Mutie advert post on PARP forums.
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:37 AM
look at this.

now, look at this

do you see any similarities? any eerie coincidences?
do you see the Original Discord Do Not Steal?
El Fubario - Today at 7:37 AM
you do not need to dance around the bush
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:38 AM
do you see the blatant copy?
El Fubario - Today at 7:38 AM
tell me what is your problem with Mutie server and Mutie ad post
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:39 AM
if i'm going to be perfectly honest with you, the mutie server is a direct fucking copy of new alternia. there is one type of person that i do not like, and that is a thief. someone stole something that someone put alot of time and effort into, and claimed it as their own.
El Fubario - Today at 7:40 AM
you still have your server and your users. if they joined another server it is not a crime. if the users left your server it is because they do not wish to stay in your place.
users weren't stolen
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:41 AM
but something that i worked hard on, something that i run and made was stolen from me
the mutie server was built on bias, anger, and pettiness, do you think those are good values to create a server off of?
El Fubario - Today at 7:42 AM
Mutie server does not have the admin venting at others who have wronged them like half a year ago in a mod  channel instead of venting so it is not built on anger
Sylandrophol - Today at 7:42 AM
bias, anger, and pettiness will lead to a very bitter and resentful community