ultimate vs nuzlocke


Deku vs Ryouma

Deku is OOT, so this is a moot point.


Goku vs Dragonite

Not entirely sure why ultimate decided to completely ignore the respect thread in favor of less-than-perfect scans, but it definitely hurt their cause here. Goku's durability is "casually resisting bullets," which Dragonite doesn't care about because it attacks with non-piercing attacks. A massive disparity exists between his presented physical strength and the strength of his kamehameha, which was shown by nuzlocke to not be part of Goku's standard attack pattern and uncontested by ultimate. Goku's speed, while argued as "superior" to Dragonite, also lacks any scans aside from various fights which scale him to another character (who also does not have defined speed). The victory goes to Dragonite/nuzlocke.


Kirishima vs Danny

Once again, ultimate's allergy to the respect thread proves to be a downfall. Many of their claims do not use scans to back them up, allowing nuzlocke to cherry-pick scans that back up their points with little consequence. It also generally feels like a game of whack-a-mole is being played, with ultimate being presented with first a pure physical fight (which was dubiously countered, at best), then opening a can of worms regarding Kirishima getting frozen and not being able to back up claims that he would escape, and finally just desperately countering claims with, yet again, hardly any scans and even less useful ones (https://imgur.com/YUjlyk1 is fire resistance, not ice). Meanwhile, nuzlocke dismantles his opponent's claims relatively easily due to competent scan usage and solid points that clue me into Danny's strategy. The victory goes to Danny/nuzlocke.


Overall, nuzlocke wins, 3-0.