Izzy added Klavas to the group.Today at 8:41 PM

Izzy - Today at 8:41 PM

Eric, this is Klavas

who is a GSF director of corp recruitment

Eric Z - Today at 8:42 PM

Hello Klavis :smile:

Izzy - Today at 8:42 PM

Klavas, this is .. Rush something or other ingame

CEO or othe rsort of leadership of.. something bandits in Slyce

Klavas - Today at 8:42 PM

Howdy!

Izzy - Today at 8:42 PM

I'm tired and a bit sick to my stomach so I'm a bit ur.. missing some details

Eric has been talking with two sundering dudes, one of which is scooter

>.<

Eric Z - Today at 8:43 PM

The Black Crow bandits

Izzy - Today at 8:43 PM

there we go

Klavas, Eric seems like a good person, and I'd be happy to have him in GSF :sun:

from what I know so far

Eric Z - Today at 8:44 PM

:smile:

Izzy - Today at 8:44 PM

thats about all I know, honestly

also, slyce is cancer

I know that :smile:

Klavas - Today at 8:45 PM

I hear they like procurers

Eric Z - Today at 8:45 PM

we do

Izzy - Today at 8:45 PM

lol

someone mentioned hulks

Klavas - Today at 8:46 PM

What can you tell me Eric?

Eric Z - Today at 8:46 PM

About?

oh the hulk story?

Klavas - Today at 8:47 PM

I understand you're interesting in possibly joining GSF, just curious about the circumstances

Eric Z - Today at 8:48 PM

Oh, gotcha, sorry

Long story short, I've been interested in goons for a bit

And the opportunity to reach out was given

So I took the meeting and wanted to talk to the people

Klavas - Today at 8:50 PM

Cool

Eric Z - Today at 8:50 PM

Was a bit apprehensive, as it was sundering

and I know what they do

Izzy - Today at 8:50 PM

:stuck_out_tongue:

Klavas - Today at 8:50 PM

heh

Oh you mean rescue downtrodden newbies from the clutches of a vile slavedriver?

Izzy - Today at 8:51 PM

haha

btw, Eric

https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Official_Diplomats

there are both Klavas' and my own bona fides

that is linked in gsf's alliance description as well

Klavas - Today at 8:51 PM

yep

So looking at zkill/etc. you guys easily meet the usual requirements we look for

member count and pvp activity are obviously fine

The question will come up of course though, and that's why does a SLYCE corp want to join GSF?

We're not opposed, but some details would be useful

Eric Z - Today at 8:54 PM

Kinda long story short, I started playing eve due to watching brave/goon stuff on youtube

I have about 1 year and some change experienc ein the game

Always been a fan of gsf, which was resolved a bit more during the sarcos days

I was the one who leaked the file to asher about what sirus/jaqu said about him

But yea, goons have always been fair to us as a corp, and even though we are on the other side, we tend to have a neutral stance to them aka no hate against them.

Klavas - Today at 8:58 PM

Cool

Do you have any questions that you've been curious about?

Eric Z - Today at 8:58 PM

Actually I do

Klavas - Today at 8:58 PM

With regards to what might be required to join, etc./

?

Eric Z - Today at 8:59 PM

Its not so much as what to join

Klavas - Today at 8:59 PM

Fire away

Eric Z - Today at 8:59 PM

I think you said we qualify :stuck_out_tongue:

So I will take that to heart.

Eric Z - Today at 9:00 PM

Trying to wrap my head around it

make sure I don't repeat questions :stuck_out_tongue:

What is expected of corps for paps/ctas/whatever as a corp?

Klavas - Today at 9:01 PM

There's no hard and fast rule, other than we want corps to have good activity. What it comes down to is a very public monthly metric post that one of our directors puts together

Eric Z - Today at 9:02 PM

Ok, thats fair

Klavas - Today at 9:02 PM

And it quantifies a lot of things including total participation by corps, relative participation, etc.

Eric Z - Today at 9:03 PM

relative participation?

Klavas - Today at 9:03 PM

Kind of a "paps per member" kind of thing

Eric Z - Today at 9:03 PM

ah

So be a productive member

kind of deal

That makes sense

Klavas - Today at 9:03 PM

Exactly

Eric Z - Today at 9:04 PM

Ok, I have heard there is stuff I should know about tax with corps. As in basic standards we have to have?

Klavas - Today at 9:04 PM

and it allows smaller corps to not look like garbage compared to bigger corps that blow the total participation out of the water

Yep, we suggest a 15% corp tax rate, of which the alliance gets one third of that monthly

regardless of the math, the alliance gets the equivalent of 5% of intake

Eric Z - Today at 9:07 PM

Makes sense

and I assume that goes into SRP?

Klavas - Today at 9:07 PM

Absolutely

Eric Z - Today at 9:07 PM

SRP and Mitanni's beer fund I assume :stuck_out_tongue:

Klavas - Today at 9:07 PM

That's what helps keep the machine moving. SRP, structures, jump bridges, etc.

Well obviously

Eric Z - Today at 9:08 PM

Met him at eve vegas 2017

Klavas - Today at 9:08 PM

Yacht wax has been getting more and more expensive you see

Eric Z - Today at 9:08 PM

Ah

Yea, I have seen the prices going up in jita

Izzy - Today at 9:08 PM

sov bills, srp, infrastructure, different sig/squad/org budgets, fc payments, all sorts of shit

:sun:

Eric Z - Today at 9:09 PM

FC payments?

Izzy - Today at 9:09 PM

:smile:

Klavas - Today at 9:10 PM

Some corps operate an FC for ISK kind of program

or some other kind of compensation

Eric Z - Today at 9:10 PM

Thats pretty dope

Izzy - Today at 9:10 PM

did we stop skirmish command fc stuff? D:

I'm bad

we do pay logi anchors, though

Eric Z - Today at 9:10 PM

And that is right up my alley. I love logi

Klavas - Today at 9:10 PM

Not sure honestly heh

Eric Z - Today at 9:10 PM

and I be a good anchor :smile:

Klavas - Today at 9:10 PM

FAX OR KICK

sorry habit

Izzy - Today at 9:10 PM

lol

Eric Z - Today at 9:10 PM

:open_mouth:

Izzy - Today at 9:10 PM

gay4jay

:smile:

Klavas - Today at 9:11 PM

just kidding, but we do love faxes

Izzy - Today at 9:11 PM

ofc we do, Tibs

Eric Z - Today at 9:11 PM

apostles or minos?

Klavas - Today at 9:11 PM

armor seems to fit the current state of the game best

Eric Z - Today at 9:11 PM

I agree

Klavas - Today at 9:12 PM

So yeah the tax sometimes causes a bit of heartburn but we have a TON of benefits so it's very reasonable

Eric Z - Today at 9:12 PM

Well, is it full srp? Partial?

Klavas - Today at 9:12 PM

It really depends, we have varying degrees

Izzy - Today at 9:12 PM

strat srp is great

Klavas - Today at 9:13 PM

based on the nature of the loss, if it was on a strat op etc.

Eric Z - Today at 9:13 PM

Gotcha

Klavas - Today at 9:13 PM

yep, strat op has the highest payout but we have "shitstack" to encourage special snowflakes to go lose random shit

Izzy - Today at 9:13 PM

we have srp for peacetime fleets as well

and then we have srp where you can go on roams or even do solo shit

whats the srp for slyce for a scimitar?

Eric Z - Today at 9:14 PM

the insurance on the hull

Izzy - Today at 9:14 PM

lol

I lost a scimi in a fight against horde/gotg in the north

Klavas - Today at 9:14 PM

bless your hearts

it's okay we all know srp is bad

Izzy - Today at 9:14 PM

and got 325m for it from teh alliance and then another 125m from my corp :stuck_out_tongue:

and the full scimi fit cost me 325

so I got the insurance as well as the corp payment.. full profit >.>

Eric Z - Today at 9:15 PM

Our corp normally covers the mods if need be

So our members are fine with it

But its dope the alliance takes care of it

makes it much easier/more streamlined

Izzy - Today at 9:15 PM

alliance srp is designed to cover the doctrine ship + fit

Klavas - Today at 9:15 PM

Have you had any conversations with your corp about a move? Specific or general?

Izzy - Today at 9:15 PM

when you count in plat insurance, I think

Eric Z - Today at 9:16 PM

Ive had conversations, and had mixed reactions, but very few were grr goons

Concern for some members were 'whats in it for us' kind of deal

Some were fine, as long as content was abundant

Klavas - Today at 9:17 PM

With regards to that we have tons of fleet activity throughout all time zones

Izzy - Today at 9:17 PM

261 strat ops in november :smile:

Eric Z - Today at 9:18 PM

Your corp?

Izzy - Today at 9:18 PM

the alliance

Eric Z - Today at 9:18 PM

oh nice :smile:

Klavas - Today at 9:18 PM

on top of that we have a special interest group (SIG)/squad system that allows people to sign on with groups that might lean towards a play style they prefer

Izzy - Today at 9:18 PM

you may have heard of ones like Reavers and Space Violence

or not, some of them dont exist :smile:

Klavas - Today at 9:18 PM

so not only do you get access to alliance fleet pings (strat or not) but getting into the sigs/squads lets you get those pings as well

so your members have a ton of access to content

Izzy - Today at 9:19 PM

miniluv :smile:

Klavas - Today at 9:20 PM

yeah we really do have something for everyone. whether they want to sit undocked on a keepstar waiting to jump to a cyno, mine, exploration/wormholes, active pvp, hunting, etc.

miniluv definitely has a ton of action, moreso EUTZ I think lately

Eric Z - Today at 9:20 PM

I don't know miniluv off hand

tbh

Izzy - Today at 9:20 PM

highsec ganking :smile:

ever hear of burn jita?

Eric Z - Today at 9:21 PM

i've heard of t

*it

and, personally, its ingenious to back CODE.

pushes more people into null

Klavas - Today at 9:22 PM

yep

that's the first thing we tell people that are new to the game

whether or not they want to join KF/GSF

get out of highsec, even if it's PH/et al

Eric Z - Today at 9:22 PM

mhmm, so much more money/fun in null

even WH space is better

and I am not a fan of WH space

Klavas - Today at 9:23 PM

enjoy visiting

not sure I'd have the patience to live there

Eric Z - Today at 9:23 PM

Money is great, but I am a paranoid person as it is

So that would drive me mad

just dscan CLICK CLICK CLICK OH GOD CLICK

Klavas - Today at 9:25 PM

One thing I want to point out, this applies to ALL member corps

But if a member causes any losses to a GSF or alliance member the corp is responsible for repaying the loss

awox/etc.

Eric Z - Today at 9:25 PM

Of course, we have done that before

Klavas - Today at 9:26 PM

think of it as awox insurance

Eric Z - Today at 9:26 PM

Yea, take care of your own

kind of deal

Klavas - Today at 9:27 PM

We do require full API as well. And we have an in-house API review tool that we require you to use for any new members you would recruit

Eric Z - Today at 9:27 PM

Uh

fuck yea

I would love to use a custom one :smile:

Klavas - Today at 9:27 PM

It's pretty slick

What's the ballpark number on any supers/titans with your guys?

And would you expect any significant reduction to ranks if you joined GSF?

Eric Z - Today at 9:32 PM

That would be kind of a negotiation thing for loss of members. Main worry would be assets and the ability to obtain them.

Additionally, we have about 15-20% of members that have supers or above.

Klavas - Today at 9:33 PM

Negotiation as in with your members to get them to stay?

Eric Z - Today at 9:33 PM

Correct. They would be worried about moving shit and losing shit.

That would be the main concern

Klavas - Today at 9:33 PM

Ah

That's something we could potentially help with

depending on where they're located we may have citadels in range or a mid away

Izzy - Today at 9:35 PM

trail of tears is still intact

Eric Z - Today at 9:35 PM

I would assume fountain would be the mid

Izzy - Today at 9:35 PM

afaik

Klavas - Today at 9:35 PM

And we have FCs that could help as well, depending on the circumstances

Izzy - Today at 9:35 PM

I think we pretty much have a full citadel chain down from the dek area >.<

Klavas - Today at 9:36 PM

Worst case, supers and titans are pretty damn cheap in delve heh

You may have seen that we tend to mine on occasion

Eric Z - Today at 9:37 PM

i have seen that :stuck_out_tongue:

Klavas - Today at 9:38 PM

Do you have any structures of note at the moment?

Eric Z - Today at 9:39 PM

fortizar and a few athanors/ratairu

most in vfk

Klavas - Today at 9:41 PM

alright

I think for right now I have enough information to go back to the alliance

I want to be up front and say that I don't make the decision. I compile info, give my input and pass it up the ladder

Eric Z - Today at 9:42 PM

No, I undersatnd

*stand

I appreciate your time though, thank you

Klavas - Today at 9:42 PM

Do you have any questions? If you want to shoot me a message later feel free to

Eric Z - Today at 9:43 PM

none i can think of atm

Klavas - Today at 9:43 PM

Alright

Eric Z - Today at 9:43 PM

again, thank you both for your time. I look forward to talking to you guys/girls later on :smile:

Klavas - Today at 9:43 PM

No problem, thank you

It's mid-afternoon there now isn't it?

Izzy - Today at 9:54 PM

autz?

Eric Z - Today at 9:54 PM

its 9:54 pm

Klavas - Today at 9:54 PM

er

wow sorry wrong window

I'm the best director in the alliance

Izzy - Today at 9:56 PM

lies

:smile:

Klavas - Today at 10:51 PM

@Eric Z  I didn't follow up earlier, but other than having wanted to join goons for a while, is there anything else driving your desire to move?

Eric Z - Today at 11:00 PM

Not that I can think of atm.