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  1. Leila:
  2. I might just go on a walk or some shit
  3. Jessica Law:
  4. 😟
  5. See
  6. I told you
  7. Leila:
  8. Well this is why I don’t go on that much
  9. Jessica Law:
  10. Leila I’m going to be very blunt
  11. I don’t think you should be an exec any more
  12. Leila:
  13. Bc I feel worse and I hate myself for it bothering me
  14. Ok
  15. I will leave
  16. Jessica Law:
  17. I think this is just making you upset
  18. Leila:
  19. Ok
  20. Jessica Law:
  21. And I hate to see that
  22. Leila:
  23. I shall leave
  24. Jessica Law:
  25. you don’t have to leave entirely unless the whole place gives you bad juju
  26. It’s not all or nothing
  27. Leila:
  28. Welp
  29. So much for sticking by
  30. After telling me so much for being in it
  31. And me trying to build
  32. Jessica Law:
  33. The problem for me is that you’re sad every single time
  34. Leila:
  35. And look into things I think would be great
  36. Jessica Law:
  37. It’s not about me wanting you around
  38. Because I do want you around, a lot
  39. Leila:
  40. It’s not everything
  41. Like
  42. Over me being upset w Robyn’s posts
  43. Which you know triggers me
  44. Jessica Law:
  45. Yeah but this isn’t a new thing or limited to robyn
  46. Leila:
  47. And I came on in biz channels for a reason
  48. Jessica Law:
  49. It’s every time you’ve come on for like months
  50. Leila:
  51. Months?
  52. Jessica Law:
  53. You weren’t happy when you were here in jan
  54. Leila:
  55. ...
  56. Ok
  57. Jessica Law:
  58. I mean, do you want to keep going, can you power through the discomfort and do you think it will subside?
  59. Leila:
  60. So if I get triggered lately which I usually don’t I should just peace
  61. Dude
  62. I’m just triggered by a few things
  63. Very very few
  64. But fine
  65. Jessica Law:
  66. Ok, I’m just telling you what it feels like from my perspective
  67. Leila:
  68. If you want to do that shit
  69. Saying I don’t think you should be an exec is pretty clear
  70. And I don’t wanna argue it
  71. I did that and moved on
  72. Whyim asking for a run down
  73. Jessica Law:
  74. my bottom line is I want you healthy
  75. Leila:
  76. Charlie gets pissed I get pissed he leaves the server
  77. Ancomes back
  78. And I should leave
  79. I don’t want it
  80. If this is gonna be like I don’t think you should do this
  81. Jessica Law:
  82. i’m just worried
  83. Leila:
  84. After we had a massive argument and moved on
  85. Jessica Law:
  86. Yeah but then you were sad again
  87. Leila:
  88. Idk what to say
  89. Except that I don’t want to fucking have this conversation every time I say something to you
  90. Jessica Law:
  91. And upset and saying that haven didn’t make you happy
  92. Or stressed you out
  93. Leila:
  94. And you legit said
  95. That’s what is likes and you don’t leave
  96. Peace
  97. Jessica Law:
  98. What?
  99. Leila:
  100. You told me when I mentioned leaving
  101. So much for you being in it w me or something like that
  102. Reason I am bothered is Bc if all the drama
  103. But like
  104. If you can’t see past me being upset about nana and Charlie blatantly blaming me and not communicating
  105. Jessica Law:
  106. I get it, I’m sorry, — I can see past nana, idc
  107. Leila:
  108. And Robyn personally triggering me and now is all over haven doing it too
  109. I don’t know what to say
  110. Either you want me long term and you deal w me being upset sometimes
  111. Jessica Law:
  112. I can see past you being upset but you’re literally my best friend so my conflict is seeing you upset every time you do this thing or having you with me where I want you
  113. Leila:
  114. Or you don’t and keep bringing this up
  115. Even if it is a month
  116. How long have I fucking been here
  117. And what did we literally just discuss painfully for like a week
  118. Which apparently I should just completely ignore now
  119. Jessica Law:
  120. Alright fine dude, I’m literally just acting from a space where I’m worried
  121. Leila:
  122. And I’m sick of having this conversation
  123. Bc I feel is the same as w nana
  124. Jessica Law:
  125. Forget I said anything
  126. Leila:
  127. You literally saying as I’m coming on vc I don’t think you should be an exec
  128. How am I supposed to figure out how to get through that if this is the new default
  129. Jessica Law:
  130. It doesn’t have to be, I can tweak behavior
  131. Leila:
  132. Like simply you have my back or you don’t and you want this or you don’t
  133. Jessica Law:
  134. My point is I have your back, which is why I worry
  135. Leila:
  136. And you want me here long term or you don’t
  137. And if you do
  138. Unless I 100% abandon ship maybe be slightly encouraging
  139. Bc
  140. You were upset and getting suicidal over this
  141. Jessica Law:
  142. Alright
  143. Leila:
  144. Did I tell you to quit
  145. Jessica Law:
  146. No, but I look out for others more than I look out for myself and I think differently
  147. Leila:
  148. Ok
  149. Well now this convo is making feel like utter shit
  150. Jessica Law:
  151. ok I’m sorry idk how to apologize more
  152. just like focus on the fact that this just comes from me worrying about you
  153. Leila:
  154. Saying I’m sorry and bringing up the same things doesn’t help
  155. Ok
  156. I feel like you don’t know me so well if this is the answer
  157. Jessica Law:
  158. ouch
  159. Leila:
  160. If we’re going off being blunt
  161. There are very few things that would make me leave
  162. Breaking trust or my idea of being united, fundamentally doing something that I don’t agree with morally or can’t support professionally and what I believe in or don’t. I never stopped believing in haven even when you have in your dips
  163. Being triggered for a while which is fairly rare for me isn’t one of them
  164. Jessica Law:
  165. Hmm I mean honestly this is a translation error
  166. Bc my brain goes ā€œomg trigger, everything is ruinedā€
  167. Not ā€œomg trigger, this one thing is a problemā€
  168. So I have a hard time reading it in other people
  169. Leila:
  170. I feel totally alone when this shit happens or when Charlie goes off or like the nana situation where I feel like what people say to me isn’t the whole picture
  171. And now every time I get upset it’s like you should leave
  172. Jessica Law:
  173. It’s not every time, I said it this once and we talked about it in the last week
  174. And I’m sorry, I won’t bring it up again
  175. Every time you get upset I worry about you idk
  176. Leila:
  177. Yeah after a massive strife and now barely a week later
  178. And especially about Robyn
  179. Which you know is personal
  180. And I don’t understand why this is now flowing into my few peaceful or professional places
  181. Jessica Law:
  182. It’s a one time thing
  183. Leila:
  184. That you think I should leave over
  185. Look
  186. I don’t want to repeat the past
  187. Jessica Law:
  188. no, I thought you were upset by haven overall
  189. Like I said I go black and white
  190. Leila:
  191. By saying that specially about Robyn
  192. Jessica Law:
  193. Idk dude my brain made associations
  194. Leila:
  195. And that I can’t even have biz channels clear
  196. If she’s basically just doing events and art stuff why is she in all the biz channels
  197. I mean ok I get it
  198. And I truly know I have to deal with it
  199. Jessica Law:
  200. Bc I took her back to help me read up on everything
  201. Leila:
  202. Does she?
  203. Jessica Law:
  204. Like an assistant kinda
  205. Yeah if I ask her about stuff she usually knows what’s going on
  206. Leila:
  207. Ok
  208. Jessica Law:
  209. She’s like you, reading a lot
  210. Leila:
  211. Right
  212. Well I’m gonna take a break and clear my head
  213. Jessica Law:
  214. Alright
  215. Leila:
  216. Maybe vc after that
  217. Jessica Law:
  218. Yeah
  219. Ima just cry for a bit lol
  220. Gl clearing your head.
  221. Leila:
  222. Ok so I want to share my recent discontent and why so it’s abundantly clear. Over many many months I was consistently dismissed over the premise that ā€œwell you don’t trust anyoneā€ or ā€œthat’s just you Leila Bc x, y, z.ā€ In a discussion I was told by you that it was unfair and mean to dismiss you or mention that I believed you had personal bias towards nana and kyu, which I found ironic considering what I was told over a long period of time. Following that I learned that not only you but Charlie as well were sharing (what I perceived was confidential info amongst us execs) with nana. I presented valid points of evidence to support my professional view on not just nana but other team members. I shared such with all of you so that everyone, mainly Charlie, felt included and was there to share his view. The conversation did not reach a conclusion and you spoke to nana in a private dm. Charlie specifically accused me of that action simply Bc I said so. Following that you undid and begged nana to come back. I was flat out ignored and accused. Soon after, nana again was an issue which negatively affected others, primarily gray who basically stopped using the server past that point. After Charlie experienced what I had with nana he immediately gave the go ahead to demod her. Both him and you felt uncomfortable speaking to her, so I did which I didn’t mind, Bc like you said I had evidence to present. Nana bashed us all and said crude mean shit. Following that I learned that you guys were sharing what I personally did or said or felt directly with nana. Then I learned that you basically threw me under the bus and both told and confirmed that basically I was the reason she was demodded and actually apologized to her profusely for a reason I know to me. Amidst that I expressed why that was so upsetting and why ironically if was the two of you who broke my trust. You did not automatically apologize and told me I misread and misunderstood a situation I read first hand. To me that presented as you apologizing to nana for something completely contingent of her repeated behavior and with me simply trying to convince me that was not the situation. You did apologize much after the fact which felt disingenuous and indicated was more just to suit me. I am aware that eventually you did apologize and possibly saw my point of view. that whole situation felt to me like you were more concerned with saving face with nana than you were supporting me. Following that situation in almost every mod situation following that Charlie continuously and passive aggressively insinuated and referenced the nana situation as if it was my fault and was handled unfairly, when in fact she was given more reprieve than anyone I can think of since I joined. This was upsetting to me Bc he was the one who was fed up with the prior situation who agreed and realized her behavior warranted a demodding. Following that nearly every time I shared what I believed to be simple professional points Charlie attacked me and once again blatantly told me that I was the reason that nana and Eli and others left the server. During this period it was confirmed that literally the majority of what I shared was completely ignored and Charlie read nothing, not just then but for months. He then got mad at me and yelled at me for typing business stuff in exec biz. He never shared his limitation reading with me prior. I offered to help find a solution, which he also did not read. Even if he had difficulty he could have simply copy pasted it into a doc, which for him considering how many detailed docs and long announcements he makes doesn’t seem like a super time consuming or difficult thing to do. Ever since you were pulled into the office, which I defended and supported you threw (and which you told me I made about myself) I repeatedly asked for a conversation or vc to take place so we could clear the air. I continued to ask for that for months and months and nobody ever responded or met me half way. I literally shared and typed soooo much relevant server biz which legitimately was completely ignored as if I didn’t write anything, and all situations and discussions past then were made on the premise that what I wrote was never said or read. Again recently Charlie continued to ignore me or any hand I reached out to have an honest blunt discussion so we could clear the air and reach a joined decision and all feel heard so that we didn’t carry this shit into the following biz. This never ever happened and in fact you directly spoke to Charlie and I was out of the loop and simply told he will write back if he thinks it feels x, y, z which he never followed up with and simply typed in exec biz as if absolutely nothing happened. I grew increasingly upset and alone at this point. We had a massive blow out that affected both of us dramatically and in the end I bluntly shared where I stood. Instead of trusting what I shared you basically told me it’s better to leave if you’re upset, as if I had no reasons to feel personally attacked or upset following these events. Simultaneously I grew increasingly triggered by Robyn and how she repeatedly copied my extremely fucked up symptoms. I was told for a while that I was projecting and she was not copying me and this had little to nothing to do with me. It continued to happen and finally you saw it and realized why this was so difficult for me. She was also in every server and channel that I was and was constantly in crisis during any interaction we had which overwhelmed me and I felt I was faking Bc I was upset and triggered by her behavior and statements of how this was untrue, just like today when she said she doesn’t show her scars. I love her but cannot be around her. Also during this period spank was an asshole and as a result I had to leave basically all my social supportive servers Bc of that dynamic. Again in that situation I was accused of basically lying and making shit up or just doing things to mimic others or purely for attention. That bothered me more Bc of what was happening w Robyn and how both see and him basically banned together against me as if I was a monster. Now she is back aboard on the team with full access for simply apparently reading things and I feel is once again simply a personal and biased role to keep her busy. I get it but it seems like a repeat of others who were not there on merit but Bc of personal connections. Nothing about this was even slightly mentioned to me beforehand, with you knowing how I was struggling with her and knowing how many places I left and avoided to keep myself from getting triggered. You told me during our argument that I should leave or step down and not only that but this very odd idea that somehow if I’m not helping you build this I’m just gonna be a mod or some shit which is not a reality to me nor something I would consider and I find a bit degrading and disconnected to ask simply Bc time and personal feelings would be the reason I was leaving. I was also told I can just do other things for haven and leave the server to you guys with not connection or day or know as if we have more than the server as a service and right now is literally what the entire organization is. Every time I have left haven feeling badly it has been a direct result of people saying mean or upsetting things to me or like today with having to read and see pictures of sh and Robyn saying things like I don’t share my scars which is abundantly untrue and the reason it triggered me is simply Bc it’s been an ongoing issue for me. I share how it’s very upsetting to read and additionally frustrating it is to see in biz channels not only Bc of the content, which the pics were and Bc I’ve literally been trying to stay away from sh pics and pro Ana shit Bc I realized it was making me worse. The pics were of sh drawing or photo. Following me sharing how upset I was you literally told me I want to be blunt and I don’t think you should be an exec. I took that exactly how it was written and expressed, and again was hurt and upset and then told by you in this text chain that I was misunderstanding. I have been trying to reach out to people and think of ideas and even if I’m not directly in haven making sure that I am your support Bc I am behind you clearly and do not want you to give up Bc I know you can do this. What you said basically was yet another blow in the face not just Bc you acted like I had no direct reason to be upset or feel bad or struggle but Bc everything about haven was making me mad and therefore I should give up and step down. Ironically I was told before how me leaving simply based on one situation was basically stupid and mean and bad to you and you said well so much for being in it with me. During all of this you basically had everyone’s back and tried to appease everyone and overlook even what I thought was basics of friendships and like I said today I struggle w Bc I thought at this point you knew me better to know that. During any conflict instead of supporting me and telling me why I should be here and why you want me here you went immediately to you should leave. Now that I’m upset again and need a break you are also upset and likely this will blow over and somehow present as some mutual wrong which imo it isn’t. I apologized profusely to you Charlie and Eli and got nothing in return, with the two of them not even the courtesy of a response. When Charlie left the server numerous times in a more dramatic way you begged for him to come back and now when I’m literally sharing as a friend to vent you don’t even do that and tell me you want me as if what you said portrays that at all. I have always stood by you and lately more and more it feels like I’m off on the abyss and if I don’t act as completely detached and professional (which I have been repeatedly critiqued for) and things do personally affect me, the new default is you should step down and leave. Then when I say ok Bc I think you’re sure about it you backpedal which makes me feel more unsteady and disposable on haven. You mentioning how upset I get when I come on and read things targeted to me or like today as something personally triggering which you are well aware of it’s chalked up to oh you’re always upset the past ā€œmonthsā€ to be fair, I think it’s unfair that you knowing how I don’t use x or the server for support and why I avoid things and feel bad about ignoring them is Bc Robyn is in a lot of those channels and pusheen, which was mine and yours and I left for good Bc doesn’t even feel safe or worth it to say shit. The thing is I love Robyn as a person so this already makes me feel intense guilt, which I have also shared with you. And me saying I’m triggered by her ducking typing and writing and posting pics in team biz which is not a channel for that really and haven isn’t something she does or puts work in like I do and contributes with art and stuff she personally is connected to that is mh related you basically say well it’s just now and then proceed to tell me I shouldn’t be an exec. I had to write this Bc I want to articulate the past few months and make things clear. At this point it’s quite simple to me, either you want me in haven and will support me and have my back not only to stay but simply to defend me even in a non direct professional manner with members or the team or even friends who don’t need to know that information. I isolated as of late Bc if all of this and all these convos and your words are kinda just a big blow. I don’t say this to hurt you or even accuse you of being the reason I am the way I am but Bc I want to say how it felt and how this transpired in my opinion which was well to put it simply is terrible. I told you not even a week ago I was in it and am always your friend but I’m gonna really crack if this continues and even professionally with the three of us does not improve. Once again I have typed a lot but I had to say every word and I hope it’s legible Bc I want this to be read and I want to put everything out there so you know where I stand. The rest is not in my hands and I can’t control.
  223. Jessica Law:
  224. I mean, idk what you want me to say
  225. I have your back, which is why I said anything in the first place
  226. Because it seemed to me like you’ve been massively unhappy with everything and I’d rather see you happy
  227. Leila:
  228. One more thing which is not that relevant to my overall point but I am obsessive and want to say everything so that past this point is very clear where I stand and what I think and feel at this point in time. Both you and Charlie have modded people without me who I don’t particularly like, such as harry. I am aware that it’s unrealistic for you guys to wait for me when modding and we only need two to be the majority rule, but I don’t think the two of us have done that at all as of late for he primary reason or not making Charlie feel bad, and I haven’t been given the same basic courtesy. Charlie continues to say how I am the reason that decisions are made simply Bc I say so when nobody agrees. And that was clearly the case considering the information nana was given. If I do share how I feel about team members or situations after the fact it’s also frowned upon and I am literally villainized for simply sharing my opinion as if doing that is someone overpowering or dismissing what him or you guys have discussed or executed. Sorry for the add on but yeah
  229. Jessica Law:
  230. We made decisions without you because you weren’t around
  231. Leila:
  232. Idk how to respond to just that after everything I said. Idk it would be nice to have some ideas or at least an inclination of possible solutions to get the three of us on board.
  233. I know that
  234. Like I said I get it and I know it’s unrealistic for you guys to wait
  235. Jessica Law:
  236. the solution for one is the google doc
  237. That will be a big thing
  238. Because you guys can actually talk
  239. Leila:
  240. Ok that’s something I suggested and agreed to without Charlie saying a ducking word
  241. Like what about something others can do
  242. Jessica Law:
  243. right and then I talked to him about it and he agreed
  244. Leila:
  245. Bc I feel like I’ve reAched our enough
  246. Yeah but you talked to him about responding to me and said he would and it blew over
  247. Jessica Law:
  248. He did say he would and I can ask him again
  249. Leila:
  250. You don’t need to tbh
  251. Jessica Law:
  252. But mostly you know everything
  253. You know the things he’s mad about and hangups he has
  254. Leila:
  255. It’s pointless if it’s just oh I need to do this and he can’t simply talk
  256. This has been months and months and months
  257. It’s not new
  258. Jessica Law:
  259. i don’t like how re doesn’t respond either
  260. I’ve asked him about it quite a few times
  261. Leila:
  262. So have I
  263. Jessica Law:
  264. But like you with your walls of text, I think it’s part of his stuff
  265. Leila:
  266. And somehow I’m the one who winds up fucking apologizing to him and thing to find solutions
  267. Right I am beyond clear about that
  268. Just like profusely apologized to Eli simply to find a middle ground
  269. And that was his reaction too
  270. Jessica Law:
  271. I know, he can be frustrating, I understand
  272. Leila:
  273. And I was blamed for that by Charlie just now as well as nana even after that entire fucked situation
  274. And like today w Robyn
  275. It’s like yeah well
  276. All cool and like we literally had her not be an admin Bc she did nothing and thought she was and we did it both feeling horrible Bc we realized it was only Bc she was our friend
  277. Now it’s the same situation
  278. But hard for be of the personal aspect
  279. Which again seems to be overlooked to appease others
  280. Which I’m fine w like give her whatever shit she wants but it’s very hard for me w her in all the biz channels
  281. Jessica Law:
  282. I had no intention of overlooking you, I didn’t realize you found her quite so triggering to be around in general
  283. Leila:
  284. And it’s legit a bunch of drawings and pics about sh
  285. Jessica Law:
  286. Like yes she shouldn’t really have posted pics
  287. And that’s part of why I redirected her tw self harm
  288. Leila:
  289. It’s not simply I can’t be around her at all
  290. It’s that she is already in every team channel
  291. Which fine
  292. And everyone social server and channel I used to be in
  293. And I legit said I had to mute channels Bc of
  294. Jessica Law:
  295. Ok, I’m pretty sure tho that this isn’t going to come up again
  296. And if it’s the sh that triggers…?
  297. Leila:
  298. I don’t mind being around her sometimes or even talking to her but this is annoying
  299. It’s the her talking about shit that she legit mimicked and even the phrasing and I get it it’s her illness I don’t even hold it against her I just can’t read it and hear it
  300. It’s eveything sh body shit ocd shit
  301. And I feel like legit she’s a mod Bc it’s something to do which I get but she can do a million other things
  302. Jessica Law:
  303. If it bothers you so much I’ll just ask her to hop down again
  304. She won’t gaf
  305. We needed more eyes
  306. Leila:
  307. Tbh like
  308. Ok
  309. I get it
  310. I’m not gonna have you ask that
  311. I’m just saying why I’m so fucking frustrated
  312. Jessica Law:
  313. I see
  314. Leila:
  315. And it feels like I’m supposed to ignore and put up with everything others do
  316. And if I do things even fucking type a lot which is a thing and ocd and just how I am it’s literally like stop
  317. You can’t do that
  318. Wtf
  319. And immmediately it’s ok what do I need to do to fix it and even my suggestions are ignored lol
  320. And idk what to say and idk what you really think about what I just wrote and it’s like idk what to say
  321. And a vague like ok
  322. Idk where to go from that
  323. Jessica Law:
  324. What I would like is for you to actually vc and talk to me like people
  325. Instead of this
  326. Leila:
  327. I try to and was about to and you told me you don’t think I should be an exec when I was legit joking around and then shared how Robyn triggered me which tbh seems pretty obvious
  328. So I get it but like
  329. Jessica Law:
  330. That was joking?
  331. Leila:
  332. I am still people if I don’t vc
  333. No
  334. Joking before
  335. Like good morning and normal shit
  336. And you being bored
  337. And memes
  338. Jessica Law:
  339. Ok so I misinterpreted a situation, idk how many times I can apologize for myself
  340. Leila:
  341. Ok dude
  342. Jessica Law:
  343. It’s not obvious tbh that you are automatically bothered by Robyn
  344. Leila:
  345. It’s not automatic
  346. Jessica Law:
  347. I don’t know why I would assume that
  348. Leila:
  349. It’s literally what I’ve been saying
  350. With full on pics and shit and then saying I don’t show scars Bc I scar weird when she’s shared like a million
  351. And intentionally showed on cam
  352. For months and months
  353. And it’s posted a fucking picture of a few lines abound
  354. Above
  355. Pics that we wouldn’t allow Bc it’s of sh
  356. And it’s not one situation
  357. Like idk how to not take that as dismissive of everything I just shared
  358. Jessica Law:
  359. i’m not dismissing it
  360. Leila:
  361. Which was a lot of stuff over a period of time
  362. Jessica Law:
  363. But it didn’t occur to me that you seeing art like that would trigger you
  364. Leila:
  365. Saying I misinterpreted one situation
  366. Jessica Law:
  367. Bc in the context of the moment it was sensical
  368. Leila:
  369. When I referenced like a bunch
  370. And like idk how many times I can apologize
  371. Jessica Law:
  372. Leila you’re killing me
  373. Leila:
  374. As I I’m like making you apologize and being a shit brining it up
  375. Same
  376. Like idk how else to take what you just said in response
  377. Jessica Law:
  378. Take it like it’s meant
  379. I apologized, offered solutions, you rejected most of them and just said you were venting, then you vent more, and idk what to do except apologize more since solutions aren’t what you seem to want
  380. Leila:
  381. I’m not like asking for much I just want like a basic understanding not a how much do I have to apologize like you said in the nana situation as if I’m the bad guy and I’m not listening
  382. I asked for solutions mainly about Charlie and us talking
  383. W Robyn I’m just saying how it upset me and is everywhere and bothering me
  384. Jessica Law:
  385. And I hear you
  386. Leila:
  387. Like I soecifically asked for solution when you just said idk how many more times I should apologize
  388. Jessica Law:
  389. I also said that I have your back
  390. Leila:
  391. And it’s one situation when it’s not
  392. Jessica Law:
  393. What solution did you ask for
  394. I must have missed that
  395. Bc from where I’m sitting you’re just telling me that communication with Charlie is an issue (ok dealt with bc we’re gonna try the doc) and that you’re triggered by Robyn being everywhere all of a sudden
  396. However when I tell you I can remove Robyn, you don’t want it
  397. So that leads me to a head tilt
  398. Leila:
  399. You said I’m sorry and idk what else to say and then I said
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  401. Like I promoted the asking for some possible solutions
  402. Jessica Law:
  403. Yeah but we already had a solution
  404. We’ve had one for a few days
  405. Leila:
  406. Ok
  407. So a google doc is like the answer to the page I just wrote
  408. Jessica Law:
  409. Yes
  410. Leila:
  411. Ok
  412. So me typing too much is the main issue here and a google doc I suggested is the answer
  413. This feels like so much shit
  414. And not just haven
  415. Jessica Law:
  416. Part of the issue is how Charlie sees you rn and the other part was him not being able to respond properly
  417. Leila:
  418. And I don’t wanna hurt you or make this more shit
  419. Jessica Law:
  420. Which I think leads to more misunderstandings and silences
  421. Leila:
  422. Well that’s not my responsibility
  423. I’ve taken the steps
  424. And it was also massively about the other situations
  425. Involving you and our relationship
  426. Like
  427. I literally don’t know how to even take the solution to eveything is a google doc
  428. And we’ve had the solution for days
  429. And that’s why you didn’t say anything until I asked and I shouldn’t have asked Bc the solution is already there
  430. And like
  431. Jessica Law:
  432. i don’t know if it is the solution but it is a potential solution and we won’t know until you try it
  433. Leila:
  434. I know
  435. Jessica Law:
  436. What do you mean I didn’t say anything
  437. Leila:
  438. About solutions or whatever
  439. Jessica Law:
  440. when?
  441. Leila:
  442. Clearly this is my fault
  443. I type too much
  444. Jessica Law:
  445. What are you talking about
  446. Leila:
  447. Which leads to everything
  448. And the reason you both shared shit w nana
  449. Jessica Law:
  450. Look that’s not what leads to everything
  451. Also not true
  452. Leila:
  453. And told me to trust everyone
  454. Jessica Law:
  455. Trust some people more
  456. Leila:
  457. You just said it
  458. Jessica Law:
  459. You typing a lot isn’t the cause of all the problems??
  460. Leila:
  461. Yeah more after knowing you guys are talking to nana behind my back
  462. If the only solution to that whole thing I wrote is a google doc
  463. Jessica Law:
  464. Nana is no longer a mod
  465. Leila:
  466. I know
  467. It doesn’t mean I just forgot the entire situation which Charlie brought up numerous times after the fact
  468. And dude you say you didn’t say something
  469. When you did
  470. Jessica Law:
  471. you’ve both Brough it up
  472. Leila:
  473. I know I’m not blaming anyone I’m saying why I still talk about even if she isn’t a mod
  474. Jessica Law:
  475. My fault is I didn’t disagree with her when she told me her view on what was happening
  476. Leila:
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  478. You said you didn’t say that
  479. Jessica Law:
  480. ?
  481. Leila:
  482. When your response to the exact Hong I mentioned was yes
  483. Jessica Law:
  484. you’ve got me in loops
  485. I can’t follow
  486. Leila:
  487. It’s not a loop
  488. Ok I will clarify
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  491. Or if order bottom was first
  492. You said yes
  493. And then said you didn’t say that
  494. Jessica Law:
  495. The google doc is the most potentially successful solution to a wall of text, yes
  496. Leila:
  497. Like I feel like when I talk lately you say something and then say you didn’t say it or that I misread or misinterpreted it when I don’t know what other way there is to take yes
  498. I specially asked about the whole thing I wrote
  499. Not one little part of what I typed
  500. And then you say it’s not what you said or meant like right after and then it’s like oh what do you want like I’m crazy and just browbeating everything when I literally shared how I felt about the past few months
  501. I can’t explain what I meant any clearer
  502. Jessica Law:
  503. Dude I’m sorry, I don’t mean to, I get really overwhelmed and literally can’t remember
  504. Leila:
  505. Ok but like you say it after w authority and revise something that I just read which basically I validated what I write
  506. But I get it like
  507. Jessica Law:
  508. In the last several examples you gave, I have pointed out that what I said was what I meant
  509. Leila:
  510. I get it but you still say something and then basically say you didn’t right after and this conversation isn’t the first time
  511. It’s like that part of it that’s hard
  512. And I’m sorry
  513. And this sucks
  514. Jessica Law:
  515. Ok, again, I don’t know what you want me to do other than apologize
  516. And move on
  517. Leila:
  518. I try to move on and make strides and literally ignore things like this and I don’t know Bc clearly there is some massive disconnect and I feel guilty just saying what I feel or think and you’re right it is pointless
  519. And continuing this is pointless
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