[12:20:38pm -8] <@Utsuho> Like, can I file a complaint about CBX's insane white noise posting? Can someone pull him aside and say "Contribute motherfucker."
[12:26:45pm -8] <@Striker> Is there some reason you need to hear what he has to say? Otherwise, just put him on ignore and get on with your day
[12:28:14pm -8] <@Utsuho> On Discord, if you do that, their shit still takes up your screen
[12:29:58pm -8] <@Utsuho> What if instead someone pulled CBX aside and goes "Hey, a lot of people think you just humblebrag or just fill shit with white noise. What if instead you actually contributed or did something useful instead of trying to Me Too into every conversation possible"
[12:30:22pm -8] <@Utsuho> Or we can hit the point where we're coordinating having the GDQ announcer go "To CBX, Shut up Wesley" and maybe he'll finally get the fucking hint
[12:30:34pm -8] <@Striker> define "a lot of people"
[12:30:46pm -8] <@Striker> actually you know what, I don't have the mental bandwidth for this right now, never mind
[12:32:19pm -8] <@Utsuho> Yeah sure what the fuck ever.
[12:40:00pm -8] <@Striker> I guess, to put it one way, to be fair, it doesn't bother me, but if it did, I imagine going to the trouble of trolling him through GDQ has a higher likelihood of causing you more trouble than it does getting him to stop.
[12:40:54pm -8] <@Striker> COnsidering CBX is there because Das invited him while you were banned from the discord specifically because you weren't there at the time.
[12:46:18pm -8] <@Alex> For what it's worth, I agree with Lyrai about it since, well, that's literally all he does
[12:50:44pm -8] <@Utsuho> I kknow Trem finds him incredibly annoying as well.
[12:51:00pm -8] <@Utsuho> CBX being on the discord is the primary reason I've resisted giving Trem a Snova discord link
[12:51:11pm -8] <@Utsuho> Hey, there's three fucking people, Striker
[12:51:15pm -8] <@Utsuho> Maybe shove that up Dast's ass.
[12:52:05pm -8] <@Alex> I would also point out that it was brought up in TOS at some point
[12:52:19pm -8] <@Utsuho> It was "borught up" when Kieran and others started going "Shut up Wesley" and CBX had a fucking meltdown over it
[12:52:28pm -8] <@Utsuho> And Kieran's response was, if I remember, "Well, you're fucking annoying to half the people in here."
[12:53:00pm -8] <@Utsuho> Hey, he's not in TOS anymore. I wonder if being told half the channel, maybe more, finds him fucking annoying is a contributing factor to it.
[12:53:14pm -8] <@Alex> He's still there, actually
[12:53:48pm -8] <@Utsuho> Oh right, he hcanged his name to Kirby
[12:53:55pm -8] <@Utsuho> I retract my statement about him not being there, then, but everything else stays.
[12:54:05pm -8] <@Striker> "So, Lyrai, Alex, and someone who doesn't go to our discord, and people who are in a chat you don't go to think CBX is annoying. We should do something about that."
[12:54:09pm -8] <@Utsuho> ">.>"
[12:54:25pm -8] <@Alex> I was about to say that no one in TOS is really on SN
[12:54:35pm -8] <@Utsuho> Right, let's go around asking other people if they find CBX annoying. I'm sure this won't end in hair pulling frustration and bullshit.
[12:55:09pm -8] <@Utsuho> Also, addendum to the third one, the reason she's not in the discord, is explicitly because a person she finds insanely aggrivating is there
[12:55:11pm -8] <@Alex> Look, I think the point here is that there's kind of a precedent for it?
[12:55:15pm -8] <@Utsuho> Like CBX is the enntire reason Trem has no link
[12:55:28pm -8] <@Striker> Yeah, but the precedent doesn't really apply here.
[12:56:04pm -8] <@Utsuho> Howso? He says white noise bullshit -> I yell at him for it -> I get yelled at for yelling at him -> Other people start doing it -> It turns out I wasn't the only one -> CBX shuts the fuck up -> We're peaceful again.
[12:56:23pm -8] <@Striker> He says white noise bullshit I easily bypass for things I care more about.
[12:57:04pm -8] <@Utsuho> I'm glad you can ignore it. Some of us can't! We're asking for help about maybe having him tone shit the fuck down
[12:57:04pm -8] <@Alex> Wait, didn't we just have a thing the other day where we talked about everyone having different thresholds
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[12:57:44pm -8] <@Alex> Not trying to be accusatory here or anything, just saying
[12:58:22pm -8] <@Alex> Seriously though, it's not too much to ask to consider the notion of 'am I saying something just to say something'
[12:58:58pm -8] <@Alex> Probably not phrasing that correctly, but you know
[12:59:13pm -8] <@Striker> Are you trying to equate CBX talking about himself in the most innocuous way possible with someone who can't deal with abortions because of a real life issue they had?
[12:59:27pm -8] <@Striker> Is that really where we are?
[12:59:57pm -8] <@Alex> C'mon, don't be dumb, Striker.  You know I'm not equating those two things.
[01:00:09pm -8] <@Striker> Then why even bring that up?
[01:00:33pm -8] <@Alex> More the general idea of 'Everyone's ability to tolerate bullshit is different'
[01:00:35pm -8] <@Striker> In other words, what are you trying to say other than you just find CBX annoying?
[01:01:46pm -8] <@Alex> Well, now I'm saying I'm annoyed that it's being kind of dismissed
[01:01:53pm -8] <@Alex> On top of that
[01:02:01pm -8] <@Striker> I mean, I get why you say it's annoying! I can acknowledge that.
[01:02:11pm -8] <@Striker> So I'm not dismissing you in any way.
[01:02:27pm -8] <@Alex> You ARE kind of downplaying it though
[01:02:41pm -8] <@Striker> I'm not downplaying it any more than I am trying to put it in perspective.
[01:03:44pm -8] <@Striker> And find some way to carry across that the act of trying to get rid of or police his behavior is not worth the consequences and in fact is pretty likely not to accomplish anything.
[01:04:10pm -8] <@Utsuho> Alex can sometimes talk about white noise. I tend to talk white noise. It can be argued that perhaps most of my memes, [[<Alex> and all of loss] are white noise. But we actually try to contribute. CBX's entire output is fucking white noise. If it's not trying to humblebrag about how he knows this importnat person, or he's a mod of a more famous person, it's just "Me too! I'm in this conversation too!"
[01:04:17pm -8] <@Utsuho> That's the aggrivating part.
[01:04:37pm -8] <@Striker> No, what you do is white noise, it's a hell of a lot more active than that.
[01:04:41pm -8] <@Striker> And I put up with it.
[01:05:09pm -8] <@Utsuho> And I've tried putting up with CBX, and I try to alter my text and output when epopel find it annoying
[01:05:11pm -8] <@Utsuho> And now I'm coming to you
[01:05:12pm -8] <@Utsuho> To say
[01:05:16pm -8] <@Utsuho> "Hey. I tried. It's not fucking working."
[01:05:20pm -8] <@Utsuho> And alex is going "yeah, it's pretty fucking bad."
[01:05:26pm -8] <@Utsuho> And you're sitting here telling both of us "Well try harder motherfucker."
[01:05:46pm -8] <@Alex> I mean, I would think 'it's been established that it's annoying, plus that you have to bypass it yourself' suggests that there might be something to this is all
[01:06:02pm -8] <@Striker> SO let me go back and more clearly address what I already said.
[01:06:10pm -8] <@Striker> I do not have a leg to stand on even if I wanted to breach the topic.
[01:07:02pm -8] <@Striker> Because if I bring it up even if I don't mention you, they're either going to ask me who brought it up, and you know you're pretty much the only one who's ever responded negatively about it, so it's not hard to guess even if I don't.
[01:07:13pm -8] <@Striker> This is blowback on you if I mention it.
[01:07:38pm -8] <@Striker> And I think having to deal with starting a fight with Dast and possibly getting you banned again ain't worth it.
[01:07:42pm -8] <@Utsuho> Dast is already bitching at me in PM about shitting on CBX, so that ship has fucking sailed.
[01:07:51pm -8] <@Utsuho> I mean, that is possibly the better solution.
[01:07:53pm -8] <@Utsuho> I leave the fucking discord
[01:07:57pm -8] <@Striker> And you think he's going to listen to me?
[01:08:03pm -8] <@Utsuho> I leave the discord because I'm having a problem with a person and the response is two fold
[01:08:06pm -8] <@Utsuho> Either A) "Try harder"
[01:08:11pm -8] <@Utsuho> and B) "The person in charge won't give a shit."
[01:08:18pm -8] <@Utsuho> Man, those are good options that aren't indicative of a huge underlying problem.
[01:08:40pm -8] <@Utsuho> Also, Dast keeps talking about how you and Pat are inn charge specifically so he'll listen to you
[01:08:42pm -8] <@Utsuho> You say it
[01:08:44pm -8] <@Utsuho> He doesn;'t listen
[01:08:50pm -8] <@Utsuho> You rip his head off and accuse him of being a fucking toad.
[01:08:57pm -8] <@Striker> Except I won't.
[01:09:09pm -8] <@Utsuho> Then why are you even pretending to help here
[01:09:28pm -8] <@Striker> I mean, I won't accuse him of being a toad when I can see his side of the argument.
[01:10:04pm -8] <@Utsuho> His side of the argument is going to be whining about how he doesn't want to do anything that would ever reduce members, because #1 http://www.plausiblydeniable.com/opinion/gsf.html
[01:11:01pm -8] <@Striker> No, his side of the argument is "I find Lyrai more annoying than CBX"
[01:11:45pm -8] <@Utsuho> I'm well aware Dast finds me annoying, he probably finds me annoying ever since he asked me for help, and then throws a fit when I do try to help.
[01:12:30pm -8] <@Utsuho> Ask Ash & Led how Dast pissed me off so much while I was staying at their place that I punched a door and spent the entire rest of the fuckign day seething, because Dast was being such an annoying shithead that when I tried to gently talk him down, he went "I don't like the accusation that I'm being needy" when I never fucking said it, he's just intelligent enough to know how he's being a fucking shit, but he's too fucking spineless to ever do anything.
[01:12:37pm -8] <@Utsuho> But we're not talking about Dast's problems
[01:12:52pm -8] <@Utsuho> We're talking about how CBX is so fucking aggrivating you have two people, right now, going "Hey, can you talk to CBX" and you going "No."
[01:12:55pm -8] <@Utsuho> We're not saying ban him
[01:12:58pm -8] <@Utsuho> We're not saying dunk on him
[01:13:00pm -8] <@Utsuho> We're saying
[01:13:00pm -8] <@Utsuho> Hey
[01:13:03pm -8] <@Utsuho> You're one of the poeple in charge
[01:13:06pm -8] <@Utsuho> Can you talk to this person
[01:13:06pm -8] <@Utsuho> and go
[01:13:09pm -8] <@Utsuho> "Maybe contribute more?????
[01:13:10pm -8] <@Utsuho> "
[01:13:18pm -8] <@Striker> Define "contribute"
[01:13:47pm -8] <@Utsuho> Maybe Six will leave again, instead of mentioning it to anyone, and then complain about being left out of things, and when I ask him to come back he'll go "But I found them annoying" "But why didn't you say anything?!" "eh."
[01:15:37pm -8] <@Utsuho> "Hey. CBX. A lot of what you say seems to just be low-key bragging about your position, or no-effort white noise contributions that just seem to do nothing but establish that you're here and want people to pay attention to you. Maybe you could contribut emore instead of the text equivalent of just making a loss edit out of the last few statements?"
[01:15:49pm -8] <@Striker> You keep saying contribute
[01:15:53pm -8] <@Striker> without defining what that means
[01:16:19pm -8] <@Striker> because one could argue that what he is doing is contributing by attempting to bring up topics, albeit ones related to him
[01:16:41pm -8] <@Striker> and half the time they're even actually relevant to something that was being discussed!
[01:17:05pm -8] <@Utsuho> He never brings up topics. He only responds to topics by explaining why he knwos someone important in it. Like, if anytime someone brought up Nintendo, I went "I have a signed thing by Reggie Fils-amae." Yes, that's technically relevant, but it's completely fucking pointless and does nothing but try to show off how much better I am.
[01:18:09pm -8] <@Utsuho> The great thing about discord is that I can just search for all posts by a specific user and it'll give me them, so if you want me to just start pasting examples, I can! Let's do that.
[01:19:00pm -8] <@Utsuho> A fourth person ahs put it better than I can
[01:19:04pm -8] <@Utsuho> "He tries to be funny, but isn't."