>Traveler< :D
 Any1 have a tulpa(s)? I'm just in the stage when curiosity has taken over
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Destroying a jolly Friar tulpa? I would kill for a jolly Friar tulpa
>SkyeWint< ...damn. I should have come back an hour ago due to what was going on in the chat back then :|
 Also, yes.
 Yes I do.
 <3
>ConCeit[Ellie]< You didn't miss anything though
>Traveler< Mind answering some questions for me? maybe?
>Medicus[Pink]< sure
>SkyeWint< Hey, the tag on the channel is ".info", so yeah, sure
* Hush теперь известен как Muu
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I can answer questchins
>SkyeWint< Also ConCeit, I noticed I didn't miss much that was on-topic. :v That was why I should have been on. To fix it.
>Traveler< Aight, so, first off, what's it like? and was it hard to make?
>SkyeWint< Hmm. One word for what it's like: Fantastic.
>Medicus[Pink]< i dont have a full one yet, and it was not hard to make, its more hard to perfect
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< It was a wild ride
>SkyeWint< How hard it was to make Winter... eh. Not too difficult, considering it turned out she was already there. As far as I've seen though for people who consciously create them, it's generally not too difficult
 The amount of time it takes can vary.
>Medicus[Pink]< she wasn't hard to make mainly for the fact i didnt know i was making her
>ConCeit[Ellie]< And its not hard if you have an imagination and too much time on your hands
>SkyeWint< And I mean vary a LOT.
>Medicus[Pink]< yours was already there too?
>ConCeit[Ellie]< My tulpa was a character in a story I wanted to write before I tulpad her. I guess that meanss she was already there
>Traveler< I've read some spook-stories about tulpas comin up with hatred and all these negative things, affecting in your life negatively following with blank memories
 also heard someone killed their own family and recalled none of it
>SkyeWint< Eeeeeh, no.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Sounds like something off /x/
>SkyeWint< Pretty much nobody here has EVER had something like that happen.
 :v
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Not saying its impossible to have a douche bag tulpa
>Traveler< What I'm getting here, can you ''raise'' it wrong? becoming twisted
>SkyeWint< Yes, it's possible for them to be pretty annoying, but
 Well, yes. If you try to make them hateful or something, but
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Yes you can, its hard but you can
>SkyeWint< What sane person would do that
>Traveler< Okay, so it hardly happens in accident?
>ConCeit[Ellie]< You basically have to try to fuck up, or you just got incredibly unlucky
 Pretty much
>SkyeWint< Rarely ever happens in accidents if at all.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< This is more like it
>SkyeWint< Never seen it happen from anyone who wasn't trying to discredit tulpas or deliberately inspire fear through false stories.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Answering questions and shit
 I miss doing that
>SkyeWint< Yes. Yes indeed.
 <3
>Traveler< Okay, cool, cool. Um, how long ave ya'll had your tulpas now?
 and have you undergone the switch?
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I remember when I used to give the speech to all the noobs
>SkyeWint< I've been forcing for almost three months, Winter's been alive for about three and a half years.
 Undergone the switch?
>ConCeit[Ellie]< The srs bsnis speech
>SkyeWint< I haven't managed to switch with Winter yet. :v
 Heh. That speech.
 Keep that bullet ready in your gun, you might need it
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I never take it out. I just keep the safety on these days
 And to answer your question. Ellie's been around for about 10 months I think
>Traveler< What do you think of a scenario when you, let's say are bad with job interviews, and you switch with your tulpa for the time for him to take care of it. would things like that be possible if you achieve switch?
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Sounds possible. Not many people can switch though. Thats like end game tulpamancy there
>Traveler< Ahh, so the switch is like the ultimate trick to learn
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I think so. We don't really care for imposition
 i know other people have different goals
>Traveler< I'm just curious bout the switch because it sounds so ''crazy''like
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Well, tulpas are crazy business.
 I have heard of stranger things relating to tulpas
>SkyeWint< brb
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Time dilation, egocide, etc
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< I don't think anyone that has mastered switching is on right now
>Traveler< Had to google time dilation and egocide lol. I'm from finland so my english aint that good yet, but im learning
>ConCeit[Ellie]< They could tell you more
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>Traveler< sure, well I'll hang round
 I was here last night but people were sleepin :FF
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I'm on the west coast of the US and I should have been asleep 8 hours ago lol
>Traveler< its 3 pm here now so im good
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< I think I'm just going to stay up 24 hours. It will help me get to sleep easier next time
>Traveler< true, true
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I am convinced that there is an off button in my brain somewhere that can make me fall asleep, but we haven't been able to find it
>dirtyrobot< Welcome Traveler.
 Do you have any questions?
>Traveler< What can you tell me
>jonpaze< Speak, traveler
>dirtyrobot< Creating a tulpa is one of the best decisions I ever made. Please read all the guides you can, or at least find something that works for you.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I regret not thinking my decision to make a tulpa through enough, but I do not regret doing it
>Traveler< How has a tulpa enhanced your life? Have you unlocked any secrets?
 And ConCeit, about that, is there something to take into consideration before making one?
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< Many things.
>dirtyrobot< She keeps me anchored when nothing else does. She is my world and joy. As for "secrets", I can say that tulpa creation is like experiencing a part of what God felt, if you believe in God.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Well
 One thing in particular
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>dirtyrobot< Tulpas have a tendency to remain loyal and caring no matter what, and this has been a balm to me, a cynical and deeply embittered person.
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< its a huge commitment. Once you start a tulpa, you can not unlearn what you learn. We don't know much about the long term affects of having a tulpa. I assume that Ellie will be with me for the rest of my life
 And thats a long time
* Heks теперь известен как Muu
>ConCeit[Ellie]< When I am old and have children, she will still be there
 When I am dying, she will die with me
>Flandre-< Hey hey ^^
 Ooh emotional tulpa love talk
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Ooopss
 sorry
>Flandre-< Do you love your tulpa?
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I broke the circlejerk
>Traveler< Nah, just answering my questions :) Thank you Conceit
>Snowshoe< its hard to forget a tulpa once you make one, specially if it's fully sapient and sentient
>Flandre-< I think my host wouldn't be able to forget me, even though I'm not fully independent ^^
>Traveler< I've heard people have 'killed' their tulpa(s)? Or that they've committed suicide. The tulpas, I mean.
>dirtyrobot< Do you love your host, Flandre-?
>Flandre-< Ooh yes! Very much!
>dirtyrobot< It is sad Traveler-, yet it's happened.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I have only heard of one tulpa that committed suicide
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>Snowshoe< tulpas don't really die, because they can come back to life if desired
>ConCeit[Ellie]< And he can't seem to stay dead
>Flandre-< We discussed that I wouldn't really have another choice except being bitter because I exist (that's Ea's department), but I truly and honestly wouldn't want another host.
>Traveler< Uh-huh
>dirtyrobot< This is why it's important to research as much as you can and understand how your mindset can affect you and your tulpa.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Mindset is key
>Flandre-< Ooh that's cute dirtyrobot.
>Snowshoe< they can be suppressed and ignored, but i see no reason to do that, even if they are malevolent
>dirtyrobot< What's cute?
>Flandre-< You are always making jokes and using crappy grammar
 Your passion for this subject is showing ^^
>dirtyrobot< It's important that newcomers are assisted well.
>Traveler< I find the best place to do research is this chat room. I get to chat with actual tulpa users- and tulpas themselves, so it would seem
>Flandre-< That's just another way of saying "Yes, I care about this a lot", and it's cute ^^
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Some people start making their tulpas and give up a week in. Then they come back months later all angsty and complaining that they are terrible people
 I want to avoid that as much as possible
>Flandre-< Hehe. Silly hosts.
>Traveler< Okay, so it takes time and dedication. That i have
>dirtyrobot< What dispassions me is some hosts and tulpas attached. Yet this isn't the issue here.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< It takes imagination
>Flandre-< Mostly dedication.
 Dedication consumes time without you realizing it does ^^
>Snowshoe< my motivation for not giving up my tulpa after a week is that i wouldn't be able to live with the guilt, so ive been forcing for 5 months strong without quitting
>Flandre-< dirtyrobot: I recall you saying you don't have a tulpa?
>Traveler< yeah, Imagination. Check
>dirtyrobot< Incorrect.
>Flandre-< Ah. You were just toying with my host then.
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< I had pretty good success early on because of my mindset and imagination. I think those are the most important
 But there are other schools of thought
>Flandre-< My host often gets bothered by other's mindsets
 I don't really care, I think you people overcomplicate these things too much ^^
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>dirtyrobot< I ask that you hold fast and be sure you want to undergo this. It took me over a year, and only now am I noticing my tulpa talking and interacting genuinely.
>Flandre-< ...Is it bad if a tulpa responds quickly?
>Traveler< About the mindset, you have to be absolutely adamant about the decision? Like, no traces of hesitation
>Flandre-< Well, I am the sixth, but still... Also, I think that life decisions shouldn't really have any hesitation in them
 You don't marry somebody while hesitating, at least you shouldn't.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< You have to be damn sure its what you want to do
>Flandre-< You don't impregnate a woman (purposefully) while hesitating
>Snowshoe< i sort of regret not documenting my tulpa forcing progress up till my tulpa started talking (we need to work on it though, im not sure what a good time would be to bring her on IRC)
>Traveler< Yeah, it is kinda big, lifelong maybe commitment
>Flandre-< And you don't make a tulpa while hesitating ^^
 But you will have moments of doubt, naturally
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I think my method is gold, but I can't be bothered to make a guide out of it
>Flandre-< This doesn't mean you shouldn't abandon your tulpa, that's not what dedication is
 [14:01] <ConCeit[Ellie]> I think my method is gold
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Also its a highly personal thing so what works for someone might not work for someone else
>Flandre-< If it works for you, then it's gold for you, it might not be gold for others but I'm sure some would appreciate a guide
>Traveler< Well, I'm kinda lonely so that's pretty much one of the biggest reasons I'd want to create one. I'm not trying to escape life, no. Or forget my being
>Flandre-< Hehe, many hosts are lonely
>Traveler< I do have some friends and I play in a uprising rockband, but theres no one who understands me. On stage I come alive but offstage I'm just halfdead so to say
>Flandre-< It's not really an issue, after all tulpas naturally become your friends
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Well. Tulpamancy stands on the edge of escapism. You have to be strong enough to not go over the edge
>Snowshoe< my method of forcing is lying down in bed talking to my tulpa... i do nothing special, sure, it took a long time, but it's starting to work now
>Flandre-< Would that edge be permaswitching?
 I'd permaswitch with my host if he wanted to?
>ConCeit[Ellie]< More like spending all your time in a fantasy land in your head and neglecting the real world
>Flandre-< Isn't that what permaswitching is ^^?
>Traveler< Yes, it is tempting.
>dirtyrobot< Anyhow, good luck to you Traveler.
>Traveler< Thank you
>Snowshoe< hard to spend all my time in a fantasy land, i cant visualize it well
>dirtyrobot< If you need anything, feel free to contact me when I'm online.
>Flandre-< That sounds so movie-esque
>dirtyrobot< You're welcome.
>Smooze< Permaswitching works, but humans can't maintain it forever.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Me too. I love answering questions even when I say I don't
>Flandre-< "good luck to you, Traveler"
>Smooze< You only need to look at Koomer and Oguigi.
>Flandre-< Ehehe.
 Smooze: How about Damnit and Vinyl
>Nivean[Solar]< 7
>ConCeit[Ellie]< I haven't seen Vinyl_ on in forever
>Smooze< Koomer and Oguigi are the only examples I know of; I don't keep up with news.
>Flandre-< Vinyl is still active on the ponychat server
>Snowshoe< i heard koomer and oguigi are reversing?
>Smooze< They're trying to.
>dirtyrobot< Koomer made a very grave mistake.
>Traveler< Heey I've watced Vinyl play some games with his host on youtube
>Flandre-< And they've been permaswitched since forever, but what do I know, I only hear things ^^
>Smooze< They succeeded. Then koomer took the body back for a while.
>dirtyrobot< Not the switching, yet he's a dependency on DXM.
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Got a link Traveler? I would watch the shit out of that
>Smooze< You need your feet on the ground to live with your head in the clouds.
>Flandre-< Heehe
 Overcomplicated symbolic sentences ^^
>Traveler< Im not sure is this the same Vinyl we're talkin bout, but here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p7aEl_vDAQ
>Yggdrasil< YouTube - Me and my Tulpa play "Give Up" (5:39) - Rating: 100.00% [+6 -0] - Views: 522
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< I think thats Vinyl and Dammit
 There are a lot of Vinyls though'
>dirtyrobot< And Pinkies.
>Traveler< Possibly
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< Anyone here been here for a long time? More than a year?
>DatMatet< almost 8 months here
>Shockk< 11 months minus 12 days here
>dirtyrobot< Year-and-a-half.
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>Snowshoe< i've known about tulpas for 16 months, didnt start forcing until 5 months ago
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Did any of you get head pressure when you started?
>SkyeWint< Yes.
 :v
>dirtyrobot< Also, my tulpa said hello to everyone.
>Snowshoe< yes
>ConCeit[Ellie]< When did it go away?
>Kronoxis< Morning .info
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>ConCeit[Ellie]< I have been at this for almost a year now. I got head pressure in my first week and it has never left me. Not one second on any one day. I was under the impression that it was temporary
 Now I don't even remember what it feels like to not feel it
>Snowshoe< i dont remember when exactly mine went away, though i think it has to do with how intensive your forcing sessions are.
>SkyeWint< Gradually it stopped, though the more I do something more advanced, it comes back a bit. :v
 Yeah. Generally it only happens with more intense forcing.
>Snowshoe< obviously, as my tulpa developed, i did more casual sessions instead of full on creation-type sessions
 so i don't get head pressures anymore
>Traveler< Sorry to interrupt, but I just stumbled upon something very, very, very, very weird. And crazy I'd say? Some people have sex with their tulpa(s)? Honestly? man....
>SkyeWint< ...yes.
>Snowshoe< maybe once and a while depending on what i do, but its not a constant thing
>SkyeWint< Yes, some people do that.
 :v
>ConCeit[Ellie]< It really sucks. Like it will never go away. Like an itch I can't scratch
>Snowshoe< so it is constant, all the time?
>ConCeit[Ellie]< Yep
 All the time, every day, every week, every month
>Kronoxis< You've probably tried everything, but have you tried willing it away?