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- Thank you.
- Graduating class,
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- forward march!
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- "New York, New York"
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- ♪ Start
- spreading the news ♪
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- ♪ I'm leaving today ♪
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- ♪ I want to be a part of it ♪
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- ♪ New York, New York ♪
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- ♪ These vagabond shoes ♪
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- ♪ Are longing to stray ♪
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- And thank you,
- Mr. Mayor.
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- It's now my pleasure
- and personal pride
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- to introduce
- the police commissioner
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- of the city of New York,
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- the Honorable
- William J. Bratton.
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- ‐ Good morning
- and congratulations
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- to you
- and to your families.
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- Over the last 24 years,
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- and most of you
- were still too young
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- to remember the devastation
- of the '80s and '90s,
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- this city reclaimed
- its streets.
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- It reclaimed its neighborhoods
- and its parks,
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- and we, the police,
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- were the integral
- and essential element
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- in doing that.
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- Well, the new mission
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- for the New York City
- Police Department
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- is going to be quite simply
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- to save the children
- of this city.
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- There are too many young men
- in this city carrying guns
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- who have been drawn into
- the crews and into the gangs,
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- and we need to prevent that
- from happening.
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- Raise your right hand
- and repeat after me.
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- "I do hereby pledge
- to defend..."
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- "I do hereby
- pledge to defend..."
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- "To promote
- the constitution
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- "of the United States...
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- "as a police officer...
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- "in the New York City
- Police Department
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- "to the best of my ability,
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- so help me, God."
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- Congratulations.
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- Ready, throw.
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- Hello?
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- Hey, son, listen.
- I'm gonna find, uh,
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- uh, the place, okay?
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- I don't know.
- Let me‐‐
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- let me do
- what I gotta do now.
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- I got this, uh‐‐got‐‐
- I really got to do this.
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- Okay.
- Talk to you later.
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- ‐ You've been going
- through some of the stuff
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- that I've been going through,
- and he went through.
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- I just want you to explain
- to Polanco here
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- everything
- that's been going on.
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- ‐ Just because, uh, I‐‐
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- I didn't bring
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- the amount of summonses
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- and arrests
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- that they wanted me to bring
- to, uh‐‐
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- to the precinct,
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- uh, I've been punished
- and retaliated against.
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- ‐ And you thought
- that after all
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- I have been through,
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- that after what
- he had been through,
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- that after all this shit
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- that we been through,
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- that exposing stuff
- and‐‐for his‐‐
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- exposing
- their numbers machine,
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- we thought
- that it was over,
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- but they still was doing
- the same shit.
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- This is‐that's the same,
- like, uh...
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- ‐ But it's worse,
- because you came out,
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- right?
- First, it was Schoolcraft.
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- They buried his story.
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- You came out.
- They bury your story.
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- I‐‐I went to, um,
- federal court,
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- and then they buried my story.
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- We know what was
- going on out there,
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- and we know
- what's hurting cops,
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- and we know the morale
- of cops is very low.
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- Everybody that you meet‐‐
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- Everybody's, "Fuck this job,
- fuck this fucking job.
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- - Fuck this fucking job."
- - Yes.
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- ‐ That's our morale.
- That's what‐‐
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- That's how everybody feel.
- ‐ Yeah.
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- I've heard
- the lieutenant
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- give him a quota.
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- I've heard the sergeant
- threaten him
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- if he didn't follow the quota.
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- If nothing works,
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- then we're gonna have‐‐
- eventually have to sue.
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- If‐‐if they give us
- no recourse,
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- we're gonna have to sue,
- and‐‐and
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- make‐‐we have to make
- some change.
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- I feel like
- we have to tell you this,
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- because once you're out,
- you cannot go back.
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- ‐ No.
- ‐ No.
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- They'll eat you alive.
- ‐ Can't go back.
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- ‐ And they're not your friends.
- ‐ We're strong
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- as a unit...
- ‐ They're not your friends.
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- but individually,
- we have to be strong, too.
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- ‐ They are not your friends.
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- ‐ And we also, uh,
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- we rely on each other.
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- Something bad happens to you,
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- you call me,
- you call him,
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- before you lash out
- at anybody.
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- Do not trust
- anybody else.
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- - Nope.
- - They're gonna
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- come after you in many ways.
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- You gotta be prepared.
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- ‐ Investigator Gomez.
- Can I help you?
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- An inmate at
- New York City
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- Department of Corrections
- is calling,
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- subject to recording
- and monitoring.
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- Yeah, how you doing?
- This is, um, Investigator Gomez.
- Who's this?
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- Brady Robinson?
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- Bandy Robinson?
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- What can I do for you,
- sir?
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- 00:10:29,637 --> 00:10:33,353
- Okay, well,
- what kind of case do you have?
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- A murder case?
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- 00:10:47,213 --> 00:10:48,675
- Where are you located?
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- Rikers, Manhattan,
- Brooklyn, Queens, where?
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- 00:10:51,931 --> 00:10:54,186
- I want you
- to call your mom,
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- 00:10:54,186 --> 00:10:56,065
- sister, whoever it is,
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- and let them know
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- that private investigator
- Manuel Gomez
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- 00:10:59,947 --> 00:11:03,120
- is going to be taking your case
- if you innocent,
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- 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,292
- but do not waste
- your family's money
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- 00:11:05,292 --> 00:11:07,380
- if you're not.
- Okay?
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- 00:11:09,384 --> 00:11:10,761
- ‐ All right, then, well,
- if you're innocent,
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- I will get you out and free.
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- 00:11:12,515 --> 00:11:14,435
- I'm gonna go there
- and see you.
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- 00:11:14,435 --> 00:11:16,648
- I need you to have
- all your paperwork ready.
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- 00:11:16,648 --> 00:11:19,194
- I need to write down
- a list of people, witnesses,
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- 00:11:19,194 --> 00:11:21,324
- so I can start
- my investigation.
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- Okay.
- I'ma let you know now,
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- I'm gonna see‐‐
- I'm gonna see you‐‐
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- ...Securus. Goodbye.
- ‐ Damn it.
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- Jesus Christ.
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- All right.
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- 00:11:29,799 --> 00:11:31,594
- Hold on a second.
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- ‐ This is the best.
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- Real best in New York.
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- Can I get, uh,
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- 00:11:39,485 --> 00:11:41,281
- uh, two of these,
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- 00:11:41,281 --> 00:11:43,410
- and, uh...
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- ‐ And it's free, though.
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- I'm breaking his cherry.
- He's never had a lobster tail.
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- 00:11:53,095 --> 00:11:55,099
- Now this‐‐
- this is emotional.
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- But this, you gotta try
- outside the car,
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- 'cause we're gonna get it
- all over the place.
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- All right.
- ‐
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- - Here.
- - Thank you.
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- 00:12:01,446 --> 00:12:03,783
- ‐ I'll trade off with you.
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- 00:12:03,783 --> 00:12:05,287
- What, you're gonna shoot?
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- ‐ Uh‐huh.
- I'll shoot you.
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- Right, try that.
- ‐ You're gonna shoot me
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- 00:12:08,209 --> 00:12:09,754
- trying the lobster tail?
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- ‐ Oh, my God.
- That is a lot of pastry.
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- No, no, no, no, no.
- Not from there.
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- You gotta crack it down‐‐
- there's a way to eat it.
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- 00:12:18,730 --> 00:12:19,941
- Been a private investigator now
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- 00:12:19,941 --> 00:12:22,404
- for about 3 1/2 years.
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- 00:12:22,404 --> 00:12:26,078
- Um, I was, before that,
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- 00:12:26,078 --> 00:12:28,667
- I was
- a military intelligence officer
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- for the Army.
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- 00:12:30,337 --> 00:12:32,800
- I've been on numerous missions
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- with the, uh,
- United States Marshals
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- 00:12:34,971 --> 00:12:36,808
- hunting fugitives,
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- worked for
- the Department of State
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- for the US embassy in Kabul,
- protecting‐‐
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- help protecting
- the US ambassador.
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- 00:12:44,740 --> 00:12:46,953
- I used to also be a cop.
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- 00:12:46,953 --> 00:12:50,294
- Uh, when I was
- a police officer,
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- I saw a lot,
- but the police department‐‐
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- they want you to be
- a kind of cop
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- that keeps his mouth shut
- and doesn't say anything,
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- 00:12:56,723 --> 00:12:58,852
- and I refused to do that.
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- So I was forced off the job
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- in 2011,
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- and I decided to do
- what I do best,
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- 00:13:05,949 --> 00:13:08,997
- which is investigate crimes.
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- Sorry to bother you.
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- I'm not a molester.
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- I'm investigator
- Manuel Gomez.
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- I'm a private investigator.
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- 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:36,344
- I'm out here,
- looking at some cops from 4‐2
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- that have been
- harassing people,
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- 00:13:38,138 --> 00:13:39,850
- so if you guys have anybody,
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- any of your brothers
- have any problem, day or night.
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- 00:13:42,398 --> 00:13:44,443
- So what's your first name?
- ‐ Tomarley.
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- 00:13:44,443 --> 00:13:45,779
- ‐ I'm private investigator
- Manuel Gomez.
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- 00:13:45,779 --> 00:13:47,156
- ‐ All right, nice to meet you.
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- 00:13:47,156 --> 00:13:48,868
- ‐ So go ahead.
- So what happened to you?
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- ‐ I was working out,
- and they grabbed me like this.
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- 00:13:50,747 --> 00:13:52,960
- Then, when they put
- the handcuffs on me,
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- they walking me to the car
- and they, like‐‐
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- 00:13:55,257 --> 00:13:56,759
- I'm like, "What am I being
- charged for?"
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- 00:13:56,759 --> 00:13:58,304
- I was asking the whole time.
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- When I got to see my lawyer,
- my lawyer told me
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- I was getting charged
- with criminal possession
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- 00:14:01,059 --> 00:14:02,228
- of a weapon.
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- 00:14:02,228 --> 00:14:03,273
- ‐ But there was no weapon.
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- 00:14:03,273 --> 00:14:04,734
- There was no weapon.
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- 00:14:04,734 --> 00:14:05,902
- They just told my mom
- to come get me.
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- 00:14:05,902 --> 00:14:07,364
- I'm 17.
- ‐ Okay.
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- 00:14:07,364 --> 00:14:08,783
- And this got dismissed?
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- 00:14:08,783 --> 00:14:10,620
- ‐ Yeah, I have
- no criminal records.
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- 00:14:16,214 --> 00:14:17,760
- Hey, how are you?
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- Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa,
- who's that?
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- 00:14:18,928 --> 00:14:20,557
- No, no, no.
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- 00:14:20,557 --> 00:14:23,061
- I'm‐‐he's filming me‐‐
- ‐ You trouble?
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- Hold on.
- Let me finish.
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- 00:14:24,482 --> 00:14:26,569
- I'm not that ugly.
- I'm not that ugly.
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- 00:14:26,569 --> 00:14:29,199
- I see a camcorder and‐‐
- ‐ No, no, no.
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- 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:30,660
- He's filming me
- because I'm‐‐I'm doing‐‐
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- I'm doing an investigation.
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- 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:33,374
- What's your first name?
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- 00:14:33,374 --> 00:14:34,710
- ‐ Shaheen.
- ‐ Shaheen what?
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- 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:36,672
- ‐ Micardo.
- ‐ Micardo. What's up?
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- 00:14:36,672 --> 00:14:37,674
- All right.
- Come on in the way.
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- 00:14:37,674 --> 00:14:39,261
- I don't bite, man.
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- Take this shit off, man.
- Sit down with me.
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- What's wrong with you?
- Here, hold on a second.
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- I'm so sorry‐‐
- MANUEL: Listen.
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- 00:14:45,398 --> 00:14:47,068
- No, don't worry about it.
- Don't be sorry.
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- 00:14:47,068 --> 00:14:50,242
- I'm not that ugly.
- Listen, here's the deal.
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- We're putting a‐‐
- a major lawsuit
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- 00:14:52,621 --> 00:14:54,291
- against the department
- for violating
- 230
- 00:14:54,291 --> 00:14:56,169
- the state law on quotas.
- 231
- 00:14:56,169 --> 00:14:58,633
- So what I want to know is,
- how many arrests
- 232
- 00:14:58,633 --> 00:15:01,179
- do you have
- that were dismissed?
- 233
- 00:15:01,179 --> 00:15:02,349
- ‐ All‐‐all of them.
- 234
- 00:15:02,349 --> 00:15:03,685
- Every one
- that I got arrested for.
- 235
- 00:15:03,685 --> 00:15:06,147
- I never got arrested for no...
- 236
- 00:15:06,147 --> 00:15:08,361
- ‐ And they were all dismissed?
- ‐ All of them got dismissed.
- 237
- 00:15:08,361 --> 00:15:10,197
- ‐ Okay, how many,
- would you say?
- 238
- 00:15:10,197 --> 00:15:12,452
- ‐ Shit, I don't‐‐
- MANUEL: Five? Four? Six?
- 239
- 00:15:12,452 --> 00:15:13,454
- ‐ More than five.
- Like, more than five.
- 240
- 00:15:13,454 --> 00:15:14,582
- What, seven?
- 241
- 00:15:14,582 --> 00:15:16,042
- ‐ Yeah, probably around that.
- 242
- 00:15:16,042 --> 00:15:17,546
- - Like, seven, five.
- - Seven times.
- 243
- 00:15:17,546 --> 00:15:18,923
- I want you to go
- in the courthouse.
- 244
- 00:15:18,923 --> 00:15:20,302
- Bring your ID.
- 245
- 00:15:20,302 --> 00:15:21,512
- And you're gonna get
- all the cases
- 246
- 00:15:21,512 --> 00:15:23,015
- that says, "Dismissed."
- 247
- 00:15:23,015 --> 00:15:24,393
- ‐ All right.
- ‐ Okay?
- 248
- 00:15:24,393 --> 00:15:25,937
- And you're gonna bring them
- to me,
- 249
- 00:15:25,937 --> 00:15:27,441
- you're gonna call me up
- and says, "Manuel,
- 250
- 00:15:27,441 --> 00:15:28,735
- I've got my cases."
- 251
- 00:15:28,735 --> 00:15:30,112
- All right?
- ‐ All right.
- 252
- 00:15:30,112 --> 00:15:32,158
- And then,
- I'm gonna file a lawsuit
- 253
- 00:15:32,158 --> 00:15:33,995
- for all those false arrests.
- 254
- 00:15:33,995 --> 00:15:36,041
- All right, I want you
- to do me a solid.
- 255
- 00:15:36,041 --> 00:15:37,920
- I want you to go home
- to your mom
- 256
- 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,632
- and I want you to go in there
- and tell her
- 257
- 00:15:39,632 --> 00:15:41,886
- that I'm gonna be
- your man now.
- 258
- 00:15:41,886 --> 00:15:43,556
- All right?
- You gonna be my step‐son.
- 259
- 00:15:43,556 --> 00:15:45,310
- That dude is crazy.
- 260
- 00:15:45,310 --> 00:15:47,272
- All right? All right?
- I am crazy.
- 261
- 00:15:47,272 --> 00:15:48,608
- I'm crazy, but I'm good.
- 262
- 00:15:48,608 --> 00:15:49,985
- You got a problem
- getting paid?
- 263
- 00:15:49,985 --> 00:15:51,489
- You got a problem
- getting justice?
- 264
- 00:15:51,489 --> 00:15:53,033
- ‐ Not at all, no.
- ‐ All right.
- 265
- 00:15:53,033 --> 00:15:54,411
- So you're gonna join
- the family?
- 266
- 00:15:54,411 --> 00:15:55,872
- ‐ You know that.
- 267
- 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:02,552
- I could be here
- all night long
- 268
- 00:16:02,552 --> 00:16:04,013
- meeting people like that kid,
- 269
- 00:16:04,013 --> 00:16:05,350
- Mr. Micardo,
- 270
- 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:07,061
- without a doubt.
- Without a doubt.
- 271
- 00:16:07,061 --> 00:16:08,398
- But I mean, come on.
- 272
- 00:16:08,398 --> 00:16:10,025
- The guy was arrested
- seven times.
- 273
- 00:16:10,025 --> 00:16:12,113
- All the arrests were dismissed.
- 274
- 00:16:12,113 --> 00:16:13,658
- What does that tell you?
- 275
- 00:16:13,658 --> 00:16:15,245
- You're taking days
- out of this kid's life,
- 276
- 00:16:15,245 --> 00:16:16,664
- fingerprinting him,
- 277
- 00:16:16,664 --> 00:16:18,334
- and you're doing this
- to the point
- 278
- 00:16:18,334 --> 00:16:20,922
- where eventually,
- you're gonna get something
- 279
- 00:16:20,922 --> 00:16:22,759
- to stick against the wall,
- 280
- 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:24,471
- because the‐‐the judge
- is going to say,
- 281
- 00:16:24,471 --> 00:16:26,517
- "Oh, my God, why does he have
- so many arrests?"
- 282
- 00:16:26,517 --> 00:16:28,730
- Not that, "Oh, my God,
- he has so many arrests
- 283
- 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:30,567
- "because the cops
- are harassing him,
- 284
- 00:16:30,567 --> 00:16:32,529
- and that‐‐that
- they were dismissed."
- 285
- 00:16:32,529 --> 00:16:33,990
- No, they don't see that.
- 286
- 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:35,410
- This is what kills me.
- 287
- 00:16:35,410 --> 00:16:37,622
- I mean, it‐‐it's blatant.
- 288
- 00:16:37,622 --> 00:16:39,418
- The evidence
- is clear as day,
- 289
- 00:16:39,418 --> 00:16:42,549
- and they don't do
- anything about it.
- 290
- 00:16:42,549 --> 00:16:45,472
- And it's disgusting.
- 291
- 00:16:45,472 --> 00:16:47,099
- It really is.
- 292
- 00:16:52,944 --> 00:16:54,740
- - Hello, hello.
- - Hello.
- 293
- 00:16:54,740 --> 00:16:56,285
- Excuse me.
- 294
- 00:16:56,285 --> 00:16:58,289
- Detective Utone, my driver.
- ‐ How are you?
- 295
- 00:16:58,289 --> 00:17:00,668
- ‐ Commissioner also inside are
- two of the community partners
- 296
- 00:17:00,668 --> 00:17:02,213
- ‐ Okay, good.
- ‐ You see them
- 297
- 00:17:02,213 --> 00:17:03,925
- right in the front.
- ‐ And do we have the‐‐
- 298
- 00:17:03,925 --> 00:17:05,804
- is this just the, uh,
- new officers, or do you have...
- 299
- 00:17:05,804 --> 00:17:07,516
- ‐ Some of
- the training officers.
- 300
- 00:17:07,516 --> 00:17:09,269
- Not all of them, but some
- of them are in the front row.
- 301
- 00:17:09,269 --> 00:17:13,986
- Attention!
- 302
- 00:17:13,986 --> 00:17:15,406
- At ease, please.
- 303
- 00:17:15,406 --> 00:17:17,285
- As you were.
- Take seats.
- 304
- 00:17:22,420 --> 00:17:24,090
- ‐ Good afternoon.
- 305
- 00:17:24,090 --> 00:17:25,635
- Good afternoon, sir.
- 306
- 00:17:25,635 --> 00:17:28,140
- ‐ The admonition I bring to you
- 307
- 00:17:28,140 --> 00:17:30,144
- is "be cops."
- 308
- 00:17:30,144 --> 00:17:32,274
- Be what cops
- are supposed to be.
- 309
- 00:17:32,274 --> 00:17:34,152
- Honest.
- 310
- 00:17:34,152 --> 00:17:37,284
- With pride,
- with commitment.
- 311
- 00:17:37,284 --> 00:17:40,415
- You cannot break the law
- to enforce the law.
- 312
- 00:17:40,415 --> 00:17:41,792
- And there may be temptations.
- 313
- 00:17:41,792 --> 00:17:43,379
- You're gonna deal,
- unfortunately‐‐
- 314
- 00:17:43,379 --> 00:17:44,798
- as many great people
- as there are out there‐‐
- 315
- 00:17:44,798 --> 00:17:46,468
- you're gonna meet
- a lot of great people.
- 316
- 00:17:46,468 --> 00:17:48,264
- There's also some
- very bad people out there,
- 317
- 00:17:48,264 --> 00:17:49,683
- and you're gonna want
- to get them.
- 318
- 00:17:49,683 --> 00:17:51,102
- You're gonna want
- to arrest them.
- 319
- 00:17:51,102 --> 00:17:52,731
- You're gonna want
- to put them in jail
- 320
- 00:17:52,731 --> 00:17:53,900
- You want to get them
- out of these neighborhoods
- 321
- 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:55,570
- and put them in prison,
- 322
- 00:17:55,570 --> 00:17:57,156
- 'cause some of them
- just are never gonna change.
- 323
- 00:17:57,156 --> 00:17:59,076
- They are criminals,
- and that's unfortunate,
- 324
- 00:17:59,076 --> 00:18:00,914
- but that's the reality.
- 325
- 00:18:00,914 --> 00:18:02,792
- The crises that we now have
- 326
- 00:18:02,792 --> 00:18:05,506
- is, "Can the NYPD
- 327
- 00:18:05,506 --> 00:18:08,094
- "continue to make the city
- even safer,
- 328
- 00:18:08,094 --> 00:18:09,473
- "but in doing it,
- 329
- 00:18:09,473 --> 00:18:12,061
- "continue to improve
- relationships,
- 330
- 00:18:12,061 --> 00:18:13,606
- "particularly, now,
- in neighborhoods
- 331
- 00:18:13,606 --> 00:18:15,652
- "that still have
- too much crime,
- 332
- 00:18:15,652 --> 00:18:18,616
- "by policing
- in a constitutional way,
- 333
- 00:18:18,616 --> 00:18:21,079
- "a respectful way,
- and a consistent way,
- 334
- 00:18:21,079 --> 00:18:23,793
- and with integrity?"
- 335
- 00:18:23,793 --> 00:18:26,257
- Let me emphasize
- that term "integrity."
- 336
- 00:19:20,072 --> 00:19:22,577
- If you see‐‐if you see a SUV,
- 337
- 00:19:22,577 --> 00:19:25,165
- then I would say, really,
- put it down.
- 338
- 00:19:30,510 --> 00:19:33,724
- Okay, cop's coming.
- 339
- 00:19:33,724 --> 00:19:35,185
- ‐ You think they can see you
- from there?
- 340
- 00:19:35,185 --> 00:19:36,939
- Yeah.
- 341
- 00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:42,909
- ‐ I don't care, really.
- 342
- 00:19:42,909 --> 00:19:44,830
- I really don't give a shit, man.
- 343
- 00:19:51,260 --> 00:19:53,221
- Cold and cloudy today
- in New York City
- 344
- 00:19:53,221 --> 00:19:55,016
- now that our winter storm
- has exited,
- 345
- 00:19:55,016 --> 00:19:56,937
- leaving behind
- some much cooler air:
- 346
- 00:19:56,937 --> 00:19:58,691
- 31 degrees today.
- 347
- 00:19:58,691 --> 00:19:59,985
- We're going to be feeling
- very chilly
- 348
- 00:19:59,985 --> 00:20:01,738
- in the overnight hours.
- 349
- 00:20:05,120 --> 00:20:06,457
- - How you doing?
- - Hey.
- 350
- 00:20:07,633 --> 00:20:08,508
- Yeah, yeah.
- 351
- 00:20:14,473 --> 00:20:15,975
- You know‐‐
- you know what it is?
- 352
- 00:20:15,975 --> 00:20:17,139
- What do you mean?
- 353
- 00:20:18,825 --> 00:20:20,585
- Oh, you were a cop?
- Where, where?
- 354
- 00:20:22,671 --> 00:20:23,824
- ‐ Oh, yeah, this is
- doing something‐‐
- 355
- 00:20:23,824 --> 00:20:25,551
- they're doing retaliation
- on me. That's what it is.
- 356
- 00:20:28,292 --> 00:20:30,170
- Because, uh...
- ‐ You want to get
- 357
- 00:20:30,170 --> 00:20:31,798
- a hot chocolate?
- I go get a hot chocolate,
- 358
- 00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:33,385
- you go inside and drink it?
- 359
- 00:20:33,385 --> 00:20:34,888
- ‐ I‐I'll go later.
- I'll go later.
- 360
- 00:20:34,888 --> 00:20:36,975
- Thing is, I have to, um,
- 361
- 00:20:36,975 --> 00:20:39,272
- I have to go by...
- 362
- 00:20:39,272 --> 00:20:41,985
- You know, these guys
- are watching me closely.
- 363
- 00:20:41,985 --> 00:20:43,280
- Yeah.
- ‐ Somebody's there in the car,
- 364
- 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,533
- and they're watching you, too.
- 365
- 00:20:44,533 --> 00:20:45,576
- ‐ Huh?
- ‐ Sitting in the car
- 366
- 00:20:45,576 --> 00:20:47,247
- over there.
- 367
- 00:21:02,443 --> 00:21:03,779
- What's up, boss?
- 368
- 00:21:03,779 --> 00:21:05,741
- How you doing?
- 369
- 00:21:05,741 --> 00:21:07,453
- What's going on?
- 370
- 00:21:12,297 --> 00:21:13,716
- What's up, sarge?
- How you doing?
- 371
- 00:21:13,716 --> 00:21:16,597
- - How's it going?
- - Not much.
- 372
- 00:21:16,597 --> 00:21:17,974
- All right, you're‐‐
- 373
- 00:21:17,974 --> 00:21:19,936
- your hat‐‐
- you're out of uniform.
- 374
- 00:21:19,936 --> 00:21:22,525
- - The hat.
- - The hat? Why?
- 375
- 00:21:22,525 --> 00:21:23,986
- It's not s‐‐
- it's not supposed to‐‐
- 376
- 00:21:23,986 --> 00:21:26,617
- not expected to be below 32.
- 377
- 00:21:26,617 --> 00:21:27,619
- Yeah, it was, uh‐‐
- 378
- 00:21:27,619 --> 00:21:28,662
- it was night‐‐
- 379
- 00:21:28,662 --> 00:21:30,916
- it was, uh, this morning.
- 380
- 00:21:30,916 --> 00:21:34,131
- No, f‐for the tour.
- 381
- 00:21:34,131 --> 00:21:36,511
- For the tour, it's expected
- to be 38 degrees.
- 382
- 00:21:36,511 --> 00:21:39,392
- - 38 degrees?
- - Correct.
- 383
- 00:21:39,392 --> 00:21:41,480
- Oh, so I get a CD
- for this?
- 384
- 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,149
- I'm just saying,
- you're out of uniform,
- 385
- 00:21:43,149 --> 00:21:44,402
- and I'm‐‐I'm gonna put you
- in the book.
- 386
- 00:21:44,402 --> 00:21:46,740
- Being out of uniform.
- 387
- 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:48,034
- All right,
- when I came out,
- 388
- 00:21:48,034 --> 00:21:49,996
- it was, uh, below 32.
- 389
- 00:21:49,996 --> 00:21:54,756
- Uh, it's expected
- to be 38 degrees today.
- 390
- 00:21:54,756 --> 00:21:56,968
- It felt very, very cold.
- Right?
- 391
- 00:21:56,968 --> 00:21:58,305
- It's not
- what it feels like.
- 392
- 00:21:58,305 --> 00:21:59,474
- It's what it‐‐
- SANDY: I‐it's not?
- 393
- 00:21:59,474 --> 00:22:00,643
- It's expected.
- 394
- 00:22:03,607 --> 00:22:06,363
- All right.
- Take care.
- 395
- 00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:12,995
- We are also holding
- a press conference tomorrow,
- 396
- 00:23:12,995 --> 00:23:15,584
- which I'm encouraging
- each and every one of you
- 397
- 00:23:15,584 --> 00:23:18,047
- to make sure that you
- come out and participate.
- 398
- 00:23:18,047 --> 00:23:19,551
- Visibility is going
- to be everything
- 399
- 00:23:19,551 --> 00:23:20,678
- in this effort.
- 400
- 00:23:20,678 --> 00:23:22,097
- We believe that there's enough
- 401
- 00:23:22,097 --> 00:23:23,517
- in the force for us to be able
- 402
- 00:23:23,517 --> 00:23:25,354
- to have some dramatic change
- 403
- 00:23:25,354 --> 00:23:27,107
- take place
- in the police department.
- 404
- 00:23:27,107 --> 00:23:28,694
- We have all these people
- that end up retiring
- 405
- 00:23:28,694 --> 00:23:30,573
- and then claim
- how everything was unfair,
- 406
- 00:23:30,573 --> 00:23:32,200
- and they had
- all the opportunity‐‐
- 407
- 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,829
- the same opportunity
- we've taken while we're
- 408
- 00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:35,499
- active on the job‐‐
- to speak for these issues,
- 409
- 00:23:35,499 --> 00:23:37,002
- and why these gentlemen
- are spoken on the issues
- 410
- 00:23:37,002 --> 00:23:38,380
- that they can take advantage
- 411
- 00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:39,507
- and step up
- and speak to the issue
- 412
- 00:23:39,507 --> 00:23:40,968
- without being scared.
- 413
- 00:23:40,968 --> 00:23:42,471
- Uh, and we had
- a class‐action lawsuit
- 414
- 00:23:42,471 --> 00:23:44,182
- that obviously
- represented that.
- 415
- 00:23:44,182 --> 00:23:46,563
- We're hoping to pursue
- another class‐action lawsuit
- 416
- 00:23:46,563 --> 00:23:48,525
- that would probably
- be bigger than the first.
- 417
- 00:23:48,525 --> 00:23:50,446
- On that note,
- 418
- 00:23:50,446 --> 00:23:52,408
- please stand up
- and introduce yourself,
- 419
- 00:23:52,408 --> 00:23:54,871
- and tell us about
- your current case.
- 420
- 00:23:54,871 --> 00:23:56,499
- Before they tell you
- their story,
- 421
- 00:23:56,499 --> 00:23:59,672
- I just want to put this
- into perspective.
- 422
- 00:23:59,672 --> 00:24:02,135
- There's a quota law.
- It's no longer the bill.
- 423
- 00:24:02,135 --> 00:24:03,137
- It's the quota law.
- 424
- 00:24:03,137 --> 00:24:04,682
- That means that I,
- 425
- 00:24:04,682 --> 00:24:07,939
- or no other...
- police supervisor,
- 426
- 00:24:07,939 --> 00:24:10,402
- can go out
- and actually tell
- 427
- 00:24:10,402 --> 00:24:12,155
- a particular police officer
- 428
- 00:24:12,155 --> 00:24:15,537
- that you have to write
- 20, 30, 40 summonses.
- 429
- 00:24:15,537 --> 00:24:17,625
- It's illegal.
- Okay?
- 430
- 00:24:17,625 --> 00:24:19,837
- When you have supervisors
- 431
- 00:24:19,837 --> 00:24:21,424
- and these officers
- will describe one,
- 432
- 00:24:21,424 --> 00:24:22,885
- when you have supervisors
- 433
- 00:24:22,885 --> 00:24:24,681
- that are using
- police officers
- 434
- 00:24:24,681 --> 00:24:27,770
- as a revenue‐producing agent
- for the city,
- 435
- 00:24:27,770 --> 00:24:30,693
- then you're violating
- the quota law.
- 436
- 00:24:30,693 --> 00:24:32,989
- So you guys, go ahead
- and introduce yourselves
- 437
- 00:24:32,989 --> 00:24:34,617
- and speak.
- 438
- 00:24:34,617 --> 00:24:36,496
- ‐ Um, Officer Serrano,
- from‐‐formerly from
- 439
- 00:24:36,496 --> 00:24:38,124
- the four precinct
- in the Bronx.
- 440
- 00:24:38,124 --> 00:24:39,961
- Um, South Bronx.
- 441
- 00:24:39,961 --> 00:24:42,299
- And I work in, um, Heights.
- 442
- 00:24:42,299 --> 00:24:44,470
- And my situation‐‐
- there were many.
- 443
- 00:24:44,470 --> 00:24:47,225
- I was told by the XO
- and the CO
- 444
- 00:24:47,225 --> 00:24:49,104
- that I had to stop
- black people.
- 445
- 00:24:49,104 --> 00:24:50,733
- These were his words.
- 446
- 00:24:50,733 --> 00:24:52,068
- "You must stop black people
- 447
- 00:24:52,068 --> 00:24:54,072
- between 14 to 21."
- 448
- 00:24:54,072 --> 00:24:55,284
- I said no.
- 449
- 00:24:55,284 --> 00:24:56,870
- We went at it,
- 450
- 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:58,205
- I got suspended,
- 451
- 00:24:58,205 --> 00:25:00,084
- charges and specs,
- blah, blah, blah.
- 452
- 00:25:00,084 --> 00:25:02,423
- ‐ From the beginning, I saw
- 453
- 00:25:02,423 --> 00:25:03,967
- how this job was,
- 454
- 00:25:03,967 --> 00:25:07,057
- that it was not
- about helping people,
- 455
- 00:25:07,057 --> 00:25:11,399
- not helping our community.
- It's about numbers.
- 456
- 00:25:11,399 --> 00:25:13,528
- I always spoke my mind.
- 457
- 00:25:13,528 --> 00:25:14,989
- Always said, "You know what?
- 458
- 00:25:14,989 --> 00:25:16,785
- "It's not about the numbers.
- 459
- 00:25:16,785 --> 00:25:18,789
- It's about the quality.
- It's about helping people."
- 460
- 00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:22,755
- That did not sit well
- with the brass in my precinct.
- 461
- 00:25:22,755 --> 00:25:25,260
- They thought I was
- a rebel‐rouser.
- 462
- 00:25:25,260 --> 00:25:27,138
- We got people who got
- summons where they live.
- 463
- 00:25:27,138 --> 00:25:28,475
- They got arrested
- where they live
- 464
- 00:25:28,475 --> 00:25:30,813
- for trespassing.
- 465
- 00:25:30,813 --> 00:25:32,942
- We have a bunch of those.
- ‐ Yes.
- 466
- 00:25:32,942 --> 00:25:35,697
- We've all seen the guys
- playing dominos.
- 467
- 00:25:35,697 --> 00:25:37,075
- Older gentlemen
- 468
- 00:25:37,075 --> 00:25:38,912
- chilling on the side
- of the bodega,
- 469
- 00:25:38,912 --> 00:25:40,499
- playing dominos,
- minding their fucking business.
- 470
- 00:25:40,499 --> 00:25:41,751
- Excuse me.
- 471
- 00:25:41,751 --> 00:25:44,257
- What do we do?
- It's the 29th.
- 472
- 00:25:44,257 --> 00:25:45,926
- I have to hit them
- with C summons,
- 473
- 00:25:45,926 --> 00:25:48,222
- because I was told,
- "Give a C summons, or else,"
- 474
- 00:25:48,222 --> 00:25:50,644
- and the two of them
- are in luck.
- 475
- 00:25:50,644 --> 00:25:52,147
- That's the only one I see,
- 476
- 00:25:52,147 --> 00:25:53,692
- 'cause the bad guys
- aren't right there.
- 477
- 00:25:53,692 --> 00:25:54,902
- I'm doing day tours right now.
- They're not out.
- 478
- 00:25:54,902 --> 00:25:56,029
- The drug dealers are sleeping.
- 479
- 00:25:56,029 --> 00:25:58,033
- So who am I targeting?
- 480
- 00:25:58,033 --> 00:25:59,412
- These four gentlemen,
- 481
- 00:25:59,412 --> 00:26:00,831
- and that's where
- the community‐‐
- 482
- 00:26:00,831 --> 00:26:02,793
- um, community problem arises.
- 483
- 00:26:36,068 --> 00:26:37,905
- Oh, that's Antonio.
- Look, the detective.
- 484
- 00:26:37,905 --> 00:26:39,700
- We're got to go.
- See the detective?
- 485
- 00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:42,205
- ‐ Excuse me, guys.
- 486
- 00:26:42,205 --> 00:26:43,750
- Look, and they coming
- up the block, too.
- 487
- 00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:45,420
- They coming up the block.
- 488
- 00:26:49,345 --> 00:26:51,307
- They looking at us.
- 489
- 00:26:55,649 --> 00:26:57,235
- ‐ This is crazy.
- This is, like,
- 490
- 00:26:57,235 --> 00:26:59,155
- that second, third patrol
- that went around already.
- 491
- 00:27:00,492 --> 00:27:02,579
- Telling you, bro,
- we gotta move from here.
- 492
- 00:27:17,651 --> 00:27:20,282
- ‐ It's going to be
- a little hot and dusty,
- 493
- 00:27:20,282 --> 00:27:22,995
- 'cause we haven't
- been staying here.
- 494
- 00:27:22,995 --> 00:27:25,082
- This was my son's room,
- over here.
- 495
- 00:27:30,051 --> 00:27:31,346
- Make sure...
- 496
- 00:27:35,896 --> 00:27:37,900
- These are the main
- from the family here.
- 497
- 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:39,528
- That's my oldest,
- 498
- 00:27:39,528 --> 00:27:40,781
- my youngest,
- 499
- 00:27:40,781 --> 00:27:42,284
- that's Pedro,
- 500
- 00:27:42,284 --> 00:27:43,578
- that's my other daughter.
- 501
- 00:27:43,578 --> 00:27:45,081
- She just graduated
- high school.
- 502
- 00:27:45,081 --> 00:27:46,709
- I didn't get
- to upgrade his picture,
- 503
- 00:27:46,709 --> 00:27:48,421
- 'cause he's graduating
- in there now.
- 504
- 00:27:48,421 --> 00:27:52,554
- He's not graduating outside.
- 505
- 00:27:52,554 --> 00:27:55,519
- Some of these cops
- are so hungry for arrests,
- 506
- 00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,523
- they will follow my kids home,
- 507
- 00:27:57,523 --> 00:27:59,025
- come into my building,
- 508
- 00:27:59,025 --> 00:28:01,029
- knock on the door.
- 509
- 00:28:01,029 --> 00:28:03,952
- After that, I couldn't
- let my kids go through that,
- 510
- 00:28:03,952 --> 00:28:06,833
- so because of that,
- I just left,
- 511
- 00:28:06,833 --> 00:28:08,001
- from the morning to the night.
- 512
- 00:28:08,001 --> 00:28:09,463
- I told my kids, "Pack luggage,"
- 513
- 00:28:09,463 --> 00:28:12,261
- and I took them out of here.
- 514
- 00:28:12,261 --> 00:28:15,308
- Around here, me‐‐me personally,
- I could tell you‐‐
- 515
- 00:28:15,308 --> 00:28:17,271
- there's multiple kids
- 516
- 00:28:17,271 --> 00:28:20,360
- with the same pro‐‐
- with the same, like this.
- 517
- 00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,238
- They get arrested, they go,
- 518
- 00:28:22,238 --> 00:28:23,867
- and there's not
- a shred of evidence,
- 519
- 00:28:23,867 --> 00:28:25,912
- All they do is arrest them
- without no evidence,
- 520
- 00:28:25,912 --> 00:28:28,376
- and then what the courts does‐‐
- dismiss the case.
- 521
- 00:28:28,376 --> 00:28:30,255
- This is all the dismissals.
- 522
- 00:28:30,255 --> 00:28:31,591
- But for what?
- ‐ Attempt of murder.
- 523
- 00:28:31,591 --> 00:28:33,470
- Charges dismissed.
- 524
- 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:36,309
- Reckless endangerment
- with a weapon, dismissed.
- 525
- 00:28:36,309 --> 00:28:38,980
- Again, reckless endangerment
- with a weapon.
- 526
- 00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:40,734
- They just declined prosecution.
- 527
- 00:28:40,734 --> 00:28:42,446
- All this costs money.
- 528
- 00:28:42,446 --> 00:28:43,990
- There's, like, a few more,
- 529
- 00:28:43,990 --> 00:28:45,827
- and I gave them
- to the lawyer.
- 530
- 00:28:45,827 --> 00:28:47,873
- All dismissed?
- ‐ Yeah, all dismissed.
- 531
- 00:28:47,873 --> 00:28:49,710
- Um...
- 532
- 00:28:49,710 --> 00:28:52,048
- It came to the point, I hired
- this private investigator.
- 533
- 00:28:52,048 --> 00:28:54,010
- I said, "I need somebody
- to speak for me.
- 534
- 00:28:54,010 --> 00:28:55,430
- "I need somebody to go
- 535
- 00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:57,058
- "to
- the district attorney's office,
- 536
- 00:28:57,058 --> 00:28:59,103
- "explain that every time
- they're arresting this kid,
- 537
- 00:28:59,103 --> 00:29:00,690
- they messing up his life."
- 538
- 00:29:00,690 --> 00:29:02,026
- For months,
- private investigator
- 539
- 00:29:02,026 --> 00:29:03,153
- Manuel Gomez
- 540
- 00:29:03,153 --> 00:29:04,573
- has pounded the pavement
- 541
- 00:29:04,573 --> 00:29:06,076
- in this South Bronx
- neighborhood.
- 542
- 00:29:06,076 --> 00:29:07,538
- Do you guys live
- in the area?
- 543
- 00:29:07,538 --> 00:29:08,831
- That shooting happening
- on September 1st,
- 544
- 00:29:08,831 --> 00:29:10,209
- who was shooting
- 545
- 00:29:10,209 --> 00:29:11,963
- So you've been
- all over here?
- 546
- 00:29:11,963 --> 00:29:13,675
- - All over here.
- - Determined to prove
- 547
- 00:29:13,675 --> 00:29:16,389
- that 16‐year‐old
- Pedro Pablo Hernandez
- 548
- 00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:19,395
- didn't open fire with a gun
- during a street dispute
- 549
- 00:29:19,395 --> 00:29:21,147
- here in September
- of last year.
- 550
- 00:29:21,147 --> 00:29:23,486
- ‐ Five witnesses say
- that he didn't do the shooting.
- 551
- 00:29:23,486 --> 00:29:25,114
- Hernandez,
- a high school student
- 552
- 00:29:25,114 --> 00:29:26,576
- with no criminal record,
- 553
- 00:29:26,576 --> 00:29:28,580
- has been on Rikers
- since July,
- 554
- 00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:32,379
- his mother unable to post
- the $250,000 bond.
- 555
- 00:29:32,379 --> 00:29:34,592
- ‐ My son
- is mentally devastated.
- 556
- 00:29:34,592 --> 00:29:37,306
- He sometimes...
- 557
- 00:29:37,306 --> 00:29:39,852
- He tells me he wants to die.
- 558
- 00:29:39,852 --> 00:29:42,691
- Cops have arrested
- Hernandez several times,
- 559
- 00:29:42,691 --> 00:29:44,486
- most of the cases dismissed
- 560
- 00:29:44,486 --> 00:29:46,197
- thanks to alibi evidence
- 561
- 00:29:46,197 --> 00:29:48,786
- obtained by PI Gomez
- and the Hernandez attorney...
- 562
- 00:30:57,424 --> 00:31:00,638
- This is a call
- for all New York City officers.
- 563
- 00:31:00,638 --> 00:31:02,309
- This is the opportunity
- you have
- 564
- 00:31:02,309 --> 00:31:04,020
- to now come forward
- and highlight
- 565
- 00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:05,523
- the illegal quota system
- 566
- 00:31:05,523 --> 00:31:07,026
- in the New York City
- Police Department.
- 567
- 00:31:07,026 --> 00:31:08,696
- This is what
- the commanding officer wrote
- 568
- 00:31:08,696 --> 00:31:10,283
- to officers who are on patrol,
- 569
- 00:31:10,283 --> 00:31:12,203
- saying that if you don't give
- the summonses
- 570
- 00:31:12,203 --> 00:31:14,081
- that generate money
- for the New York‐‐
- 571
- 00:31:14,081 --> 00:31:16,085
- for New York City‐‐
- that these officers
- 572
- 00:31:16,085 --> 00:31:18,508
- are going to be disciplined
- and punished.
- 573
- 00:31:18,508 --> 00:31:21,221
- This suit was filed
- on March 2nd
- 574
- 00:31:21,221 --> 00:31:23,851
- in the southern district
- right here.
- 575
- 00:31:23,851 --> 00:31:28,444
- Since then, we have had
- at least 30
- 576
- 00:31:28,444 --> 00:31:29,988
- New York City police officers
- 577
- 00:31:29,988 --> 00:31:32,076
- who have come forward
- and told us
- 578
- 00:31:32,076 --> 00:31:35,416
- that they suffer
- from the same conditions.
- 579
- 00:31:35,416 --> 00:31:37,754
- Out of those 30,
- we have signed up
- 580
- 00:31:37,754 --> 00:31:40,468
- eight additional plaintiffs
- who wish to be named,
- 581
- 00:31:40,468 --> 00:31:42,806
- and more are still
- coming forward.
- 582
- 00:31:42,806 --> 00:31:45,895
- Now, what‐‐what is the point
- of the lawsuit?
- 583
- 00:31:45,895 --> 00:31:48,693
- The system that police officers
- are forced to implement
- 584
- 00:31:48,693 --> 00:31:50,864
- is driven by numbers.
- 585
- 00:31:50,864 --> 00:31:52,325
- Ever since CompStat,
- 586
- 00:31:52,325 --> 00:31:54,036
- it's all about numbers,
- 587
- 00:31:54,036 --> 00:31:57,252
- Numbers‐‐we're talking
- about enforcement activity,
- 588
- 00:31:57,252 --> 00:32:00,425
- and the kind of impact
- that it has put
- 589
- 00:32:00,425 --> 00:32:02,219
- on the police officers
- 590
- 00:32:02,219 --> 00:32:03,681
- and the community.
- 591
- 00:32:08,566 --> 00:32:10,570
- The National Latino
- Officers' Association
- 592
- 00:32:10,570 --> 00:32:12,114
- claims police officers
- are being evaluated
- 593
- 00:32:12,114 --> 00:32:13,492
- on a quota system,
- 594
- 00:32:13,492 --> 00:32:15,246
- even though that's
- against the law.
- 595
- 00:32:15,246 --> 00:32:16,916
- According to the group,
- officers are mandated
- 596
- 00:32:16,916 --> 00:32:18,294
- they make at least one arrest
- a month
- 597
- 00:32:18,294 --> 00:32:21,174
- and hand out
- at least 25 summonses.
- 598
- 00:32:23,888 --> 00:32:25,266
- ‐ One second.
- 599
- 00:32:25,266 --> 00:32:26,977
- All right,
- so what I'm telling you
- 600
- 00:32:26,977 --> 00:32:28,564
- is make sure you tell
- the rest of the guys as well.
- 601
- 00:32:28,564 --> 00:32:30,108
- Make sure you're wearing
- your best all the time.
- 602
- 00:32:30,108 --> 00:32:32,112
- I said we've reached the point
- of no return
- 603
- 00:32:32,112 --> 00:32:34,158
- because there's some people
- understand what we're doing,
- 604
- 00:32:34,158 --> 00:32:35,536
- and some people are going
- to be scared
- 605
- 00:32:35,536 --> 00:32:37,206
- about what we're doing.
- All right?
- 606
- 00:32:37,206 --> 00:32:39,252
- So dot your I's,
- cross your T's.
- 607
- 00:32:39,252 --> 00:32:41,632
- Treat it like a game for now,
- so you don't get upset.
- 608
- 00:32:41,632 --> 00:32:43,678
- Don't go home angry
- about it.
- 609
- 00:32:43,678 --> 00:32:46,015
- You have to mentally adjust
- to it.
- 610
- 00:32:46,015 --> 00:32:47,435
- Okay?
- And you treat it like a game.
- 611
- 00:32:47,435 --> 00:32:48,688
- You play baseball
- or whatever it is.
- 612
- 00:32:48,688 --> 00:32:49,898
- You enjoy it
- You're g‐‐
- 613
- 00:32:49,898 --> 00:32:51,318
- they make a move,
- you make a move.
- 614
- 00:32:51,318 --> 00:32:52,654
- You keep yourself balanced.
- 615
- 00:32:52,654 --> 00:32:53,864
- You keep yourself balanced,
- 616
- 00:32:53,864 --> 00:32:55,618
- they can't hurt you.
- ‐ Mm‐hm.
- 617
- 00:32:55,618 --> 00:32:57,162
- Ever you think
- 618
- 00:32:57,162 --> 00:32:58,708
- you need to talk to somebody,
- 619
- 00:32:58,708 --> 00:33:00,336
- or it's not going
- the way you think it should,
- 620
- 00:33:00,336 --> 00:33:02,006
- then we're a phone call away.
- 621
- 00:33:02,006 --> 00:33:04,176
- That's‐‐that's the point‐‐
- why we do what we do,
- 622
- 00:33:04,176 --> 00:33:06,849
- because you're never alone
- in this process.
- 623
- 00:33:06,849 --> 00:33:08,018
- - Okay?
- - Thank you.
- 624
- 00:33:08,018 --> 00:33:09,938
- Uh, it's best to‐‐
- 625
- 00:33:09,938 --> 00:33:12,318
- ‐ Uh, call you guys, right?
- ‐ Yes.
- 626
- 00:33:12,318 --> 00:33:13,863
- ‐ What time or more
- for the next two days?
- 627
- 00:33:13,863 --> 00:33:15,366
- What time?
- ‐ Any‐‐anytime.
- 628
- 00:33:15,366 --> 00:33:16,744
- ‐ Okay.
- 629
- 00:33:16,744 --> 00:33:18,289
- ‐ And you guys are based
- in Manhattan?
- 630
- 00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:19,583
- So right after
- the press conference
- 631
- 00:33:19,583 --> 00:33:21,169
- wrapped up,
- 632
- 00:33:21,169 --> 00:33:22,839
- I went over
- to the attorneys.
- 633
- 00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:24,384
- I said, you know,
- "I'm a police officer,
- 634
- 00:33:24,384 --> 00:33:26,346
- "and I think I can add
- some ammunition
- 635
- 00:33:26,346 --> 00:33:28,642
- to this case."
- 636
- 00:33:46,005 --> 00:33:49,262
- The commander felt
- that my numbers were too low.
- 637
- 00:33:52,101 --> 00:33:54,856
- I basically wasn't meeting
- the quota,
- 638
- 00:33:54,856 --> 00:33:57,987
- so the plan to sabotage
- my promotion
- 639
- 00:33:57,987 --> 00:34:00,326
- was already being discussed.
- 640
- 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:48,046
- Okay.
- 641
- 00:34:56,062 --> 00:34:58,317
- ‐ Yeah.
- I was like, "Wow."
- 642
- 00:34:58,317 --> 00:35:00,279
- When he said that ou‐‐
- I mean, I knew what it was,
- 643
- 00:35:00,279 --> 00:35:02,115
- but, you know, for him
- to actually say it...
- 644
- 00:35:06,082 --> 00:35:08,545
- To be asked to participate
- 645
- 00:35:08,545 --> 00:35:10,549
- in something
- that disenfranchises
- 646
- 00:35:10,549 --> 00:35:13,889
- black folks even more‐‐
- 647
- 00:35:13,889 --> 00:35:15,768
- it's horrible.
- 648
- 00:35:39,691 --> 00:35:41,570
- So who they do‐‐
- what they doing to you?
- 649
- 00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:44,367
- ‐ I been here for two years,
- and they always stop me.
- 650
- 00:35:44,367 --> 00:35:46,413
- Just‐‐just when we walking,
- they stopping me.
- 651
- 00:35:46,413 --> 00:35:47,749
- And they stop you
- and do what?
- 652
- 00:35:47,749 --> 00:35:49,252
- - ‐ Huh?
- - And do what?
- 653
- 00:35:49,252 --> 00:35:50,504
- ‐ Check me.
- 654
- 00:35:50,504 --> 00:35:52,215
- Check out his nuts.
- 655
- 00:35:52,215 --> 00:35:53,677
- ‐ Put me in the car for a few,
- and then just let me go.
- 656
- 00:35:53,677 --> 00:35:55,264
- Or they just let me go.
- 657
- 00:35:55,264 --> 00:35:57,310
- ‐ Nobody's allowed
- to violate your rights.
- 658
- 00:35:57,310 --> 00:35:58,687
- Did you know this?
- 659
- 00:35:58,687 --> 00:36:00,649
- So he's over here‐‐
- do you know this?
- 660
- 00:36:00,649 --> 00:36:02,194
- Did you know that nobody
- can come over here
- 661
- 00:36:02,194 --> 00:36:03,822
- and frisk you
- and go like this
- 662
- 00:36:03,822 --> 00:36:05,743
- and go in your pockets
- and start doing that?
- 663
- 00:36:05,743 --> 00:36:07,997
- The next time
- one of them stop you,
- 664
- 00:36:07,997 --> 00:36:09,417
- whoever it is,
- 665
- 00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:11,212
- ah, see,
- if it's that one right there,
- 666
- 00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:12,882
- you gonna let me know.
- 667
- 00:36:12,882 --> 00:36:15,220
- I need you to take me
- to where it happened
- 668
- 00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:16,598
- the night of the incident.
- 669
- 00:36:18,184 --> 00:36:19,854
- I'm right here
- 670
- 00:36:19,854 --> 00:36:22,610
- and they got me
- up against the gate like that.
- 671
- 00:36:22,610 --> 00:36:25,533
- So when they got me
- up against like that,
- 672
- 00:36:25,533 --> 00:36:27,245
- I'm like‐‐I'm telling them,
- 673
- 00:36:27,245 --> 00:36:28,789
- like "Oh, we try‐‐
- we tried to stop."
- 674
- 00:36:28,789 --> 00:36:30,334
- Like, "What are you all
- arresting me for?"
- 675
- 00:36:30,334 --> 00:36:31,795
- Like, "What's this for?"
- You know what I mean?
- 676
- 00:36:31,795 --> 00:36:33,257
- ‐ They just pull up on me
- right here
- 677
- 00:36:33,257 --> 00:36:34,926
- by the fire hydrant,
- hop off, jump out,
- 678
- 00:36:34,926 --> 00:36:36,471
- "Let me see your hands.
- Let me see your hands."
- 679
- 00:36:36,471 --> 00:36:38,015
- I give them my hands.
- I'm coming up to them,
- 680
- 00:36:38,015 --> 00:36:39,894
- I‐I know they're police.
- I'm coming up to them.
- 681
- 00:36:39,894 --> 00:36:41,481
- I ain't do nothing wrong,
- officers.
- 682
- 00:36:41,481 --> 00:36:43,569
- I ain't do nothing wrong.
- "Throw your hands up."
- 683
- 00:36:43,569 --> 00:36:45,155
- Put my hands up.
- They were searching me so hard,
- 684
- 00:36:45,155 --> 00:36:46,825
- take my jacket off,
- 685
- 00:36:46,825 --> 00:36:48,412
- they picking at my pants.
- I even took my belt off
- 686
- 00:36:48,412 --> 00:36:49,914
- so my jeans could be loose
- 687
- 00:36:49,914 --> 00:36:52,462
- and they could really feel
- everything on me.
- 688
- 00:36:52,462 --> 00:36:54,089
- ‐ I'm like, "Come on,
- stop grabbing me.
- 689
- 00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:55,593
- "What y'all grabbing me for?
- 690
- 00:36:55,593 --> 00:36:57,597
- "There's no reason
- for y'all to grab me.
- 691
- 00:36:57,597 --> 00:37:00,143
- "Y'all‐‐y'all want a reason
- for me try to resist arrest
- 692
- 00:37:00,143 --> 00:37:01,730
- "with‐‐trying to fight
- with y'all.
- 693
- 00:37:01,730 --> 00:37:02,815
- "I'm not gonna do that,
- 'cause I don't wanna
- 694
- 00:37:02,815 --> 00:37:04,151
- "get locked up.
- 695
- 00:37:04,151 --> 00:37:05,696
- So my mom's sitting there,
- watching,
- 696
- 00:37:05,696 --> 00:37:07,533
- And that's when one of them
- smacked me‐‐boom!
- 697
- 00:37:07,533 --> 00:37:08,702
- ‐ I'm falling!
- They slammed me
- 698
- 00:37:08,702 --> 00:37:10,038
- into my leg.
- 699
- 00:37:10,038 --> 00:37:11,165
- You know that.
- Like, I'm falling.
- 700
- 00:37:11,165 --> 00:37:12,209
- ‐ All right.
- All right.
- 701
- 00:37:12,209 --> 00:37:15,089
- ‐ Put my pants‐‐
- pick up.
- 702
- 00:37:15,089 --> 00:37:16,635
- Don't touch me,
- 'cause I'm pregnant.
- 703
- 00:37:16,635 --> 00:37:18,137
- And take the light
- off my face.
- 704
- 00:37:18,137 --> 00:37:20,809
- Take the light
- off my face.
- 705
- 00:37:20,809 --> 00:37:22,355
- ‐ And all this got dismissed?
- 706
- 00:37:22,355 --> 00:37:24,359
- ‐ All this got dismissed.
- ‐ All right.
- 707
- 00:37:24,359 --> 00:37:25,861
- Now, what I want you to do is,
- 708
- 00:37:25,861 --> 00:37:27,865
- you're gonna call and make
- a CCRB complaint.
- 709
- 00:37:27,865 --> 00:37:30,412
- Yeah, this is the only way
- we're gonna put a stop to this.
- 710
- 00:37:30,412 --> 00:37:32,833
- That's why you're making
- complaints against them.
- 711
- 00:37:32,833 --> 00:37:35,213
- If you are the victim,
- say "self."
- 712
- 00:37:35,213 --> 00:37:37,175
- ‐ Say "self."
- ‐ Self.
- 713
- 00:37:37,175 --> 00:37:38,929
- Edwell Guerrero.
- 714
- 00:37:38,929 --> 00:37:40,516
- ‐ Slower.
- Louder.
- 715
- 00:37:40,516 --> 00:37:42,687
- Please describe
- the officer's actions
- 716
- 00:37:42,687 --> 00:37:44,816
- that you would like
- to file a complaint about.
- 717
- 00:37:44,816 --> 00:37:46,278
- ‐ They frisked me
- and searched me
- 718
- 00:37:46,278 --> 00:37:47,613
- Frisked me, searched me...
- 719
- 00:37:47,613 --> 00:37:49,032
- ‐ And took my clothes off,
- naked.
- 720
- 00:37:49,032 --> 00:37:52,163
- And took my clothes off,
- naked.
- 721
- 00:37:52,163 --> 00:37:55,713
- ‐ I was falsely arrested
- by the police officer,
- 722
- 00:37:55,713 --> 00:37:58,802
- and then they released me
- two hours later,
- 723
- 00:37:58,802 --> 00:38:01,391
- after strip‐searching me twice
- in the precinct.
- 724
- 00:38:01,391 --> 00:38:02,935
- Your complaint
- 725
- 00:38:02,935 --> 00:38:05,189
- has been registered.
- Thank you for calling
- 726
- 00:38:05,189 --> 00:38:07,528
- the Civilian Complaint
- Review Board.
- 727
- 00:38:16,463 --> 00:38:18,842
- Uh, he's coming in, Judge.
- 728
- 00:38:18,842 --> 00:38:20,387
- This is, uh, Hernandez?
- 729
- 00:38:20,387 --> 00:38:21,848
- Yeah.
- 730
- 00:38:22,516 --> 00:38:24,604
- ‐ Right here.
- 731
- 00:38:26,816 --> 00:38:30,324
- ‐ Next is account number 12,
- Pedro Hernandez
- 732
- 00:38:30,324 --> 00:38:32,160
- First case.
- 733
- 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,580
- ‐ Yeah, I know,
- just what I would like
- 734
- 00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:34,707
- to put on the record.
- Um, you know,
- 735
- 00:38:34,707 --> 00:38:35,876
- we went through great pains
- 736
- 00:38:35,876 --> 00:38:37,128
- to‐‐to find this week,
- 737
- 00:38:37,128 --> 00:38:38,548
- which is a‐‐a suitable week
- 738
- 00:38:38,548 --> 00:38:40,302
- for defense as well
- as prosecution,
- 739
- 00:38:40,302 --> 00:38:41,805
- to try this case.
- 740
- 00:38:41,805 --> 00:38:42,973
- Um, I understand
- that the matter
- 741
- 00:38:42,973 --> 00:38:44,477
- was adjourned from two days ago
- 742
- 00:38:44,477 --> 00:38:46,398
- administrated by the court,
- till today.
- 743
- 00:38:46,398 --> 00:38:48,527
- Um, I just don't see why
- the prosecution
- 744
- 00:38:48,527 --> 00:38:50,071
- were not ready for trial.
- 745
- 00:38:50,071 --> 00:38:51,658
- Um, the last time
- it was adjourned
- 746
- 00:38:51,658 --> 00:38:52,868
- was through the scheduling
- of the prosecution
- 747
- 00:38:52,868 --> 00:38:54,956
- and the prosecuting attorney.
- 748
- 00:38:54,956 --> 00:38:56,501
- Um, I just don't understand
- what their‐‐the reason
- 749
- 00:38:56,501 --> 00:38:57,545
- for the adjournment is
- this time.
- 750
- 00:38:59,307 --> 00:39:00,740
- ‐ My client's 17 years old now.
- 751
- 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:06,228
- ‐ There was an informal offer
- of a non‐incarcatory
- 752
- 00:39:06,228 --> 00:39:08,442
- um, plea with
- the youthful offender status
- 753
- 00:39:08,442 --> 00:39:09,861
- that's been offered twice.
- 754
- 00:39:09,861 --> 00:39:10,904
- My client's rejected that
- both times.
- 755
- 00:39:15,539 --> 00:39:16,916
- ‐ He maintains he's innocent,
- Your Honor.
- 756
- 00:39:37,374 --> 00:39:39,169
- ‐ And I thank the court
- for addressing the‐‐
- 757
- 00:39:39,169 --> 00:39:40,297
- the issue, Your Honor,
- and I've‐‐I've had
- 758
- 00:39:40,297 --> 00:39:41,633
- extensive negotiations
- 759
- 00:39:41,633 --> 00:39:43,052
- and discussions with him,
- 760
- 00:39:43,052 --> 00:39:44,597
- concerning plea bargain offers,
- 761
- 00:39:44,597 --> 00:39:46,225
- and he understands
- the risk involved
- 762
- 00:39:46,225 --> 00:39:47,603
- in a trial,
- but it's his position
- 763
- 00:39:47,603 --> 00:39:49,565
- to, um, reject those offers.
- 764
- 00:39:57,289 --> 00:39:59,293
- 7-12, step in.
- 765
- 00:40:34,322 --> 00:40:36,784
- ‐ And I pretty much
- keep everything.
- 766
- 00:40:42,796 --> 00:40:45,969
- This was, a while back,
- 767
- 00:40:45,969 --> 00:40:47,264
- put up in the, uh‐‐
- 768
- 00:40:47,264 --> 00:40:48,642
- in the precinct,
- 769
- 00:40:48,642 --> 00:40:49,894
- you know, telling us,
- basically,
- 770
- 00:40:49,894 --> 00:40:51,606
- we need X amount
- of cell phones,
- 771
- 00:40:51,606 --> 00:40:52,691
- X amount of seat belts,
- 772
- 00:40:52,691 --> 00:40:53,777
- X amount of double‐parkers,
- 773
- 00:40:53,777 --> 00:40:54,904
- X amount of bus stops.
- 774
- 00:40:56,908 --> 00:40:59,288
- Ah, this one.
- 775
- 00:40:59,288 --> 00:41:01,334
- So this
- 776
- 00:41:01,334 --> 00:41:03,755
- is that.
- 777
- 00:41:03,755 --> 00:41:04,966
- How do you justify
- 778
- 00:41:04,966 --> 00:41:06,928
- taking stuff off, uh,
- 779
- 00:41:06,928 --> 00:41:08,473
- the commander's desk?
- 780
- 00:41:08,473 --> 00:41:11,019
- ‐ Um, hey.
- 781
- 00:41:11,019 --> 00:41:13,023
- When we say
- we're threatened
- 782
- 00:41:13,023 --> 00:41:14,777
- or a boss said this,
- 783
- 00:41:14,777 --> 00:41:16,990
- or there is quotas,
- 784
- 00:41:16,990 --> 00:41:18,410
- nobody‐‐nobody's going
- to believe you
- 785
- 00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:21,416
- unless you have
- that physical proof.
- 786
- 00:41:21,416 --> 00:41:24,212
- I had a sergeant
- tell basically everybody,
- 787
- 00:41:24,212 --> 00:41:27,845
- "Your job as a police officer
- is to lock people up."
- 788
- 00:41:27,845 --> 00:41:30,224
- But that's not my job,
- to lock people up.
- 789
- 00:41:30,224 --> 00:41:33,898
- Our job is to keep the peace,
- to protect property,
- 790
- 00:41:33,898 --> 00:41:37,030
- but a lot of officers,
- they really don't know that.
- 791
- 00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:40,495
- I wish one of those chiefs
- from headquarters
- 792
- 00:41:40,495 --> 00:41:42,332
- could watch me
- on a damn patrol.
- 793
- 00:41:42,332 --> 00:41:44,670
- Watch. Out of‐‐out of
- the eight hours I'm on patrol,
- 794
- 00:41:44,670 --> 00:41:48,261
- I have at least 30 people
- come up and shake my hand.
- 795
- 00:41:48,261 --> 00:41:50,014
- What's up, boss?
- How are things going, man?
- 796
- 00:41:50,014 --> 00:41:51,309
- - How are things going, man?
- - Good to see you, man.
- 797
- 00:41:51,309 --> 00:41:52,311
- Yeah.
- 798
- 00:41:52,311 --> 00:41:54,356
- Wherever they put me,
- 799
- 00:41:54,356 --> 00:41:56,234
- I'm going to talk to people.
- I'm going to be like,
- 800
- 00:41:56,234 --> 00:41:57,988
- "Hello, what's going on?"
- Shake his hand,
- 801
- 00:41:57,988 --> 00:41:59,617
- because that's the type
- of person I am,
- 802
- 00:41:59,617 --> 00:42:00,786
- and that's the way
- 803
- 00:42:00,786 --> 00:42:01,913
- all of us should be,
- 804
- 00:42:01,913 --> 00:42:03,875
- but nobody sees this,
- 805
- 00:42:03,875 --> 00:42:05,712
- because the last few years,
- 806
- 00:42:05,712 --> 00:42:07,257
- officers have been trained
- 807
- 00:42:07,257 --> 00:42:09,887
- to be different.
- 808
- 00:42:09,887 --> 00:42:11,682
- A lot of times, new officers
- don't know
- 809
- 00:42:11,682 --> 00:42:13,018
- how to talk to people.
- 810
- 00:42:13,018 --> 00:42:14,062
- What's up, what's up,
- what's up?
- 811
- 00:42:17,790 --> 00:42:19,990
- This is why
- you won't do that.
- 812
- 00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:21,494
- What's up, big man?
- Everything good?
- 813
- 00:42:21,494 --> 00:42:23,205
- Yeah, they're playing
- with those fools.
- 814
- 00:42:23,205 --> 00:42:25,000
- Big man, what's up,
- man? Everything good?
- 815
- 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,712
- Walk up in here,
- talking all that fucking shit.
- 816
- 00:42:26,712 --> 00:42:28,383
- - Fucking corny‐ass fucking...
- - You good, though?
- 817
- 00:42:28,383 --> 00:42:29,844
- - You good, big man?
- - Very, very good.
- 818
- 00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:32,891
- We can either, like,
- beat them up
- 819
- 00:42:32,891 --> 00:42:35,104
- and fight him and drag him
- and cuff him,
- 820
- 00:42:35,104 --> 00:42:36,858
- or‐‐or you could talk to him.
- 821
- 00:42:36,858 --> 00:42:39,112
- Yo‐‐yo, don't spend the dough
- in there no more, man.
- 822
- 00:42:39,112 --> 00:42:40,866
- Don't spend the dough
- in there no more.
- 823
- 00:42:40,866 --> 00:42:42,536
- But this way‐‐this way,
- it's the whole point.
- 824
- 00:42:42,536 --> 00:42:43,997
- I was fucking with a young boy.
- 825
- 00:42:43,997 --> 00:42:45,792
- This fucking faggot right here
- come up
- 826
- 00:42:45,792 --> 00:42:47,546
- - in there, popping shit.
- - Hey, hey, chill, chill.
- 827
- 00:42:47,546 --> 00:42:49,592
- My man, my man, that‐‐
- that's what's up, yo.
- 828
- 00:42:49,592 --> 00:42:51,094
- Yo, don't spend your cheese
- here no more, man.
- 829
- 00:42:51,094 --> 00:42:52,431
- That's it, man.
- 830
- 00:42:52,431 --> 00:42:53,641
- You got all these
- other bodegas, man.
- 831
- 00:42:53,641 --> 00:42:55,186
- Don't go in there no more, man.
- 832
- 00:42:55,186 --> 00:42:56,814
- Don't spend your dough
- in that motherfucker
- 833
- 00:42:56,814 --> 00:42:58,233
- - no more, man.
- - Always fucking bothering
- 834
- 00:42:58,233 --> 00:42:59,945
- me, then he gonna‐‐
- MAN 1: Man...
- 835
- 00:42:59,945 --> 00:43:01,449
- No, we good, man.
- We good.
- 836
- 00:43:01,449 --> 00:43:02,534
- Then he wanna act
- like he gonna fight,
- 837
- 00:43:02,534 --> 00:43:04,204
- so I come outside.
- 838
- 00:43:04,204 --> 00:43:05,832
- He grabbed the weapons.
- He wanna fucking fight.
- 839
- 00:43:05,832 --> 00:43:08,463
- It's done, man.
- It's done, it's done.
- 840
- 00:43:08,463 --> 00:43:10,383
- A situation like that
- 841
- 00:43:10,383 --> 00:43:13,640
- could've been turned
- into something crazy.
- 842
- 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,518
- I'm not saying every time
- 843
- 00:43:15,518 --> 00:43:16,938
- you're gonna be able
- to talk somebody down,
- 844
- 00:43:16,938 --> 00:43:18,816
- but I tell you, like,
- these new guys
- 845
- 00:43:18,816 --> 00:43:21,322
- don't know how to handle
- a situation like that.
- 846
- 00:43:21,322 --> 00:43:23,284
- They're so used
- to just fighting,
- 847
- 00:43:23,284 --> 00:43:24,870
- beating up somebody,
- they don't know how
- 848
- 00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:26,164
- to de‐elevate anything.
- They don't know how
- 849
- 00:43:26,164 --> 00:43:27,542
- to defuse it.
- 850
- 00:43:30,548 --> 00:43:32,636
- - Hold on.
- - Don't touch me, please.
- 851
- 00:43:32,636 --> 00:43:34,222
- Do not touch me.
- 852
- 00:43:34,222 --> 00:43:35,392
- Hey, look, man.
- 853
- 00:43:35,392 --> 00:43:37,854
- Don't, don't don't...
- 854
- 00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:42,406
- I can't breathe!
- 855
- 00:43:42,406 --> 00:43:43,783
- I c‐‐br‐‐
- 856
- 00:43:43,783 --> 00:43:45,996
- I can't breathe.
- 857
- 00:43:56,057 --> 00:43:59,315
- Bill Bratton's
- leadership is under attack.
- 858
- 00:43:59,315 --> 00:44:02,612
- The man accused
- of illegally selling cigarettes
- 859
- 00:44:02,612 --> 00:44:05,243
- died as NYPD officers
- wrestled with him.
- 860
- 00:44:05,243 --> 00:44:07,539
- Eric Garner's arrest,
- caught on video,
- 861
- 00:44:07,539 --> 00:44:09,585
- led to protests.
- 862
- 00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:13,216
- We love you, Eric!
- 863
- 00:44:15,472 --> 00:44:16,849
- I'm sorry.
- Claire, please let them out,
- 864
- 00:44:16,849 --> 00:44:18,478
- please.
- Watch your back, sir.
- 865
- 00:44:18,478 --> 00:44:19,897
- Please let the family out.
- 866
- 00:44:34,426 --> 00:44:36,597
- I can't breathe!
- 867
- 00:44:36,597 --> 00:44:38,601
- I can't breathe!
- 868
- 00:44:38,601 --> 00:44:41,231
- I can't breathe!
- I can't breathe!
- 869
- 00:44:41,231 --> 00:44:42,651
- ‐ We could talk about Ferguson.
- 870
- 00:44:42,651 --> 00:44:44,153
- We can talk about Florida.
- 871
- 00:44:44,153 --> 00:44:45,657
- We can talk about Brooklyn.
- 872
- 00:44:45,657 --> 00:44:46,951
- We can talk about
- 873
- 00:44:46,951 --> 00:44:49,038
- Fruitvale Station,
- Oscar Grant.
- 874
- 00:44:49,038 --> 00:44:50,458
- I mean, it's continuous.
- 875
- 00:44:50,458 --> 00:44:52,462
- It just keeps going.
- 876
- 00:44:52,462 --> 00:44:54,341
- It just keeps going.
- What do you want us to do?
- 877
- 00:44:54,341 --> 00:44:55,760
- How long do you think
- 878
- 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,641
- you gonna keep
- the powder keg cap on?
- 879
- 00:44:58,641 --> 00:45:00,060
- ‐ Die in!
- 880
- 00:45:00,060 --> 00:45:02,274
- Die in!
- ‐ Die in!
- 881
- 00:45:02,274 --> 00:45:04,486
- Die in!
- 882
- 00:45:04,486 --> 00:45:05,822
- I can't breathe!
- 883
- 00:45:05,822 --> 00:45:08,286
- I can't breathe!
- 884
- 00:45:08,286 --> 00:45:09,663
- Commissioner,
- critics are blaming
- 885
- 00:45:09,663 --> 00:45:11,459
- your broken windows policy.
- 886
- 00:45:11,459 --> 00:45:13,796
- It's been hailed all around
- the world as successful,
- 887
- 00:45:13,796 --> 00:45:16,802
- going after low‐level crimes
- before big ones happen.
- 888
- 00:45:16,802 --> 00:45:18,806
- Okay?
- So in this case,
- 889
- 00:45:18,806 --> 00:45:20,560
- many people are upset, however,
- 890
- 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,062
- because they feel
- it's targeting
- 891
- 00:45:22,062 --> 00:45:23,608
- communities of color.
- 892
- 00:45:23,608 --> 00:45:25,194
- How do you respond to that?
- 893
- 00:45:25,194 --> 00:45:26,989
- ‐ We are not targeting
- communities of color.
- 894
- 00:45:26,989 --> 00:45:28,618
- We are targeting behavior.
- 895
- 00:45:28,618 --> 00:45:30,371
- Unfortunately, there are
- a number of neighborhoods
- 896
- 00:45:30,371 --> 00:45:32,751
- in the city that still have
- the highest crime rates
- 897
- 00:45:32,751 --> 00:45:35,172
- and that's been the case,
- unfortunately, 20, 30 years,
- 898
- 00:45:35,172 --> 00:45:36,425
- even though crime
- in those neighborhoods
- 899
- 00:45:36,425 --> 00:45:38,513
- is down 70 or 80 percent,
- 900
- 00:45:38,513 --> 00:45:41,059
- so that's where I put
- a lot of extra police
- 901
- 00:45:41,059 --> 00:45:42,479
- into those neighborhoods.
- 902
- 00:45:42,479 --> 00:45:44,106
- They have thousands
- of extra police
- 903
- 00:45:44,106 --> 00:45:46,320
- in those neighborhoods
- to keep the crime down.
- 904
- 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,741
- While they're there,
- they are seeing other offenses
- 905
- 00:45:48,741 --> 00:45:50,578
- that they're going
- to act upon.
- 906
- 00:45:50,578 --> 00:45:53,459
- ‐ Don't shoot!
- Don't shoot!
- 907
- 00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:57,384
- ‐ Black officers!
- 908
- 00:45:57,384 --> 00:45:59,721
- Puerto Rican officers!
- 909
- 00:45:59,721 --> 00:46:01,892
- Nobody likes you!
- 910
- 00:46:01,892 --> 00:46:03,604
- Nobody!
- 911
- 00:46:03,604 --> 00:46:06,318
- You all are hated.
- 912
- 00:46:06,318 --> 00:46:08,364
- You are hated in New York.
- 913
- 00:46:08,364 --> 00:46:11,245
- You are hated
- throughout the United States.
- 914
- 00:46:11,245 --> 00:46:13,666
- This is anger.
- This is not ignorance.
- 915
- 00:46:13,666 --> 00:46:16,338
- This is just anger, officer.
- 916
- 00:46:36,583 --> 00:46:38,591
- We have to see the way
- they talk about us behind our back,
- 917
- 00:46:38,591 --> 00:46:40,845
- and we have to be very careful.
- 918
- 00:46:40,845 --> 00:46:42,766
- But we do have some
- support amongst cops.
- 919
- 00:46:42,766 --> 00:46:44,436
- ‐ Yeah, a lot of support.
- ‐ The support that I have‐‐
- 920
- 00:46:44,436 --> 00:46:46,230
- ‐ Let Felicia‐‐she was going
- to say a few words.
- 921
- 00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:47,817
- ‐ Yeah, let Felicia speak.
- ‐ I'm not sure that any‐‐
- 922
- 00:46:47,817 --> 00:46:49,529
- everybody's connected the dots,
- 923
- 00:46:49,529 --> 00:46:52,869
- but, um‐‐so, um, Eric Garner‐‐
- 924
- 00:46:52,869 --> 00:46:54,665
- he‐‐he got killed.
- 925
- 00:46:54,665 --> 00:46:57,379
- It was a part of‐‐because
- they were chasing for activity.
- 926
- 00:46:57,379 --> 00:46:59,006
- And that's the reason:
- 927
- 00:46:59,006 --> 00:47:00,301
- the quotas.
- 928
- 00:47:00,301 --> 00:47:01,428
- That's the reason
- why we're here.
- 929
- 00:47:01,428 --> 00:47:03,098
- The guy in the Bronx, Graham,
- 930
- 00:47:03,098 --> 00:47:04,976
- it's the same thing.
- They're chasing him
- 931
- 00:47:04,976 --> 00:47:06,647
- because they're trying
- to get the activity.
- 932
- 00:47:06,647 --> 00:47:08,442
- They're trying to get
- that quota.
- 933
- 00:47:08,442 --> 00:47:10,863
- You know what I mean?
- They go‐‐you go extra hard,
- 934
- 00:47:10,863 --> 00:47:13,577
- not knowing‐‐
- the 29th of the month,
- 935
- 00:47:13,577 --> 00:47:14,955
- if you don't have
- your arrest,
- 936
- 00:47:14,955 --> 00:47:16,625
- you're gonna do anything
- you have to do‐‐
- 937
- 00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:18,337
- not everybody, you know,
- 938
- 00:47:18,337 --> 00:47:21,677
- but 50%.
- I would say 50% of the cops,
- 939
- 00:47:21,677 --> 00:47:24,474
- they're‐‐they don't want
- to suffer the consequences
- 940
- 00:47:24,474 --> 00:47:26,562
- of not having that arrest.
- 941
- 00:47:26,562 --> 00:47:28,524
- 'Cause you're gonna
- suffer consequences,
- 942
- 00:47:28,524 --> 00:47:30,570
- like we all
- are suffering consequences
- 943
- 00:47:30,570 --> 00:47:32,574
- of not having those arrests,
- you know?
- 944
- 00:47:32,574 --> 00:47:34,327
- ‐ Being a police officer
- is not easy.
- 945
- 00:47:34,327 --> 00:47:36,498
- The stuff that we see,
- the stuff that we deal with,
- 946
- 00:47:36,498 --> 00:47:39,044
- is not‐‐for one human being
- to see sometime,
- 947
- 00:47:39,044 --> 00:47:41,633
- it's‐‐it's bad.
- 948
- 00:47:41,633 --> 00:47:43,637
- And then for somebody else
- to say that we're not working
- 949
- 00:47:43,637 --> 00:47:46,017
- simply because we don't want
- to arrest the innocent
- 950
- 00:47:46,017 --> 00:47:48,564
- and be labeled as lazy
- and all this...
- 951
- 00:47:48,564 --> 00:47:51,487
- We need to redefine the word
- "working" as a police officer.
- 952
- 00:47:51,487 --> 00:47:54,534
- ‐ I‐I went to a job today,
- another domestic.
- 953
- 00:47:54,534 --> 00:47:56,037
- A mother called the cops.
- A little girl‐‐
- 954
- 00:47:56,037 --> 00:47:57,457
- she didn't want to go
- to school.
- 955
- 00:47:57,457 --> 00:47:58,876
- She had state tests.
- Well, she said,
- 956
- 00:47:58,876 --> 00:48:00,296
- "I'm not going to school,"
- so I said,
- 957
- 00:48:00,296 --> 00:48:01,298
- I took her in her room,
- and I said,
- 958
- 00:48:01,298 --> 00:48:03,051
- "You gotta go to school."
- 959
- 00:48:03,051 --> 00:48:04,721
- Two other officers came in.
- They were assisting us.
- 960
- 00:48:04,721 --> 00:48:06,600
- It was actually their job.
- And I said to myself,
- 961
- 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,729
- "I'm so happy I got here
- before them."
- 962
- 00:48:08,729 --> 00:48:10,817
- So I said to the mom,
- "I'm gonna take her to school."
- 963
- 00:48:10,817 --> 00:48:12,987
- I took her to school,
- I talked to school safety
- 964
- 00:48:12,987 --> 00:48:14,491
- about her,
- I talked to the principal,
- 965
- 00:48:14,491 --> 00:48:16,370
- I‐‐"Please excuse her
- for being late.
- 966
- 00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:18,332
- "She's not in trouble.
- I just brought her to school,
- 967
- 00:48:18,332 --> 00:48:19,918
- I was talking to her,"
- blah, blah, blah,
- 968
- 00:48:19,918 --> 00:48:21,839
- and it made me feel good.
- You know what I mean?
- 969
- 00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:23,717
- That‐‐that I could do that
- 970
- 00:48:23,717 --> 00:48:26,138
- and knowing that
- if I wasn't there,
- 971
- 00:48:26,138 --> 00:48:28,561
- it would‐‐her day would've went
- much different.
- 972
- 00:48:46,972 --> 00:48:49,352
- ‐
- That is so wet!
- 973
- 00:48:49,352 --> 00:48:51,273
- Yeah!
- 974
- 00:48:56,198 --> 00:48:59,706
- Oh, no.
- 975
- 00:48:59,706 --> 00:49:01,919
- Right there
- with the blue shirt.
- 976
- 00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:24,171
- Coming.
- 977
- 00:49:24,171 --> 00:49:26,008
- There's technical
- difficulties in there,
- 978
- 00:49:26,008 --> 00:49:28,389
- so you're gonna have
- to, like, wait.
- 979
- 00:49:28,389 --> 00:49:30,309
- She's all‐‐
- this is, like...
- 980
- 00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:32,772
- ‐ Ma, she gonna have
- to take this off, right?
- 981
- 00:49:32,772 --> 00:49:34,984
- ‐ No, I can do it myself.
- 982
- 00:49:34,984 --> 00:49:36,237
- ‐ How are you gonna do it?
- 983
- 00:49:36,237 --> 00:49:38,450
- You cannot sew
- from the outside.
- 984
- 00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:42,040
- ‐ I'm not taking it off.
- 985
- 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,293
- Wait, actually,
- I want to talk to him.
- 986
- 00:49:43,293 --> 00:49:45,297
- - I didn't get one.
- - Hold on.
- 987
- 00:49:45,297 --> 00:49:47,175
- Your breast is still out.
- I don't like it.
- 988
- 00:49:47,175 --> 00:49:48,721
- ‐ Oh, my God.
- What do you want me
- 989
- 00:49:48,721 --> 00:49:50,014
- - to do about it now?
- - I don't like it.
- 990
- 00:49:50,014 --> 00:49:51,268
- I can fix it.
- 991
- 00:49:57,447 --> 00:49:58,949
- ‐ All right, bye, guys.
- 992
- 00:49:58,949 --> 00:50:00,703
- ‐ I'm gonna follow you.
- 993
- 00:50:04,544 --> 00:50:06,256
- The neighbors
- are probably like,
- 994
- 00:50:06,256 --> 00:50:07,967
- "What the hell's going on
- over there?
- 995
- 00:50:07,967 --> 00:50:10,806
- Those black people."
- 996
- 00:50:10,806 --> 00:50:12,810
- There's not many blacks
- over there.
- 997
- 00:50:14,522 --> 00:50:16,860
- I'm just looking at all
- of the guys in the corner,
- 998
- 00:50:16,860 --> 00:50:18,614
- and like, shaking my head.
- Like, "Oh, boy.
- 999
- 00:50:18,614 --> 00:50:20,409
- What are they gonna think
- about me now?"
- 1000
- 00:50:25,294 --> 00:50:27,507
- Between my divorce
- and this job,
- 1001
- 00:50:27,507 --> 00:50:30,011
- I've just been‐‐
- I'm tired of fighting.
- 1002
- 00:50:30,011 --> 00:50:31,556
- I don't know.
- Can't think about it.
- 1003
- 00:50:31,556 --> 00:50:32,809
- I can't worry about it.
- I'll get depressed,
- 1004
- 00:50:32,809 --> 00:50:34,604
- I'll start crying,
- 1005
- 00:50:34,604 --> 00:50:37,443
- I'll say, "It's not fair,"
- 1006
- 00:50:37,443 --> 00:50:40,198
- and just, you know,
- what's the point of it all?
- 1007
- 00:50:40,198 --> 00:50:42,077
- It's only gonna make me
- look old.
- 1008
- 00:50:49,425 --> 00:50:51,888
- Oh, my gosh.
- Are these our friends?
- 1009
- 00:50:51,888 --> 00:50:53,767
- Who went‐‐who went down
- in the last picture?
- 1010
- 00:50:53,767 --> 00:50:56,063
- Me?
- 1011
- 00:50:56,063 --> 00:50:58,485
- Sit down!
- Gotta take a picture!
- 1012
- 00:51:02,785 --> 00:51:04,956
- Starting with
- the preteen years,
- 1013
- 00:51:04,956 --> 00:51:08,129
- a lot of my friends started
- 1014
- 00:51:08,129 --> 00:51:11,010
- emulating the behavior
- that they saw on the streets.
- 1015
- 00:51:11,010 --> 00:51:12,805
- First started with them
- smoking weed,
- 1016
- 00:51:12,805 --> 00:51:14,767
- and then, within a year
- of smoking weed,
- 1017
- 00:51:14,767 --> 00:51:17,147
- they were doing
- gunpoint robberies
- 1018
- 00:51:17,147 --> 00:51:19,109
- on Flatbush Avenue,
- 1019
- 00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:20,613
- and I was shocked
- 1020
- 00:51:20,613 --> 00:51:22,157
- when‐‐when I realized
- that my g‐‐
- 1021
- 00:51:22,157 --> 00:51:23,785
- my friends
- were doing gunpoint robberies.
- 1022
- 00:51:23,785 --> 00:51:25,204
- I‐I couldn't believe it.
- 1023
- 00:51:25,204 --> 00:51:27,000
- And they hadn't grown up
- 1024
- 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,004
- as poor as I was.
- 1025
- 00:51:29,004 --> 00:51:30,507
- No, their mothers
- were struggling,
- 1026
- 00:51:30,507 --> 00:51:31,968
- but their mothers were working,
- 1027
- 00:51:31,968 --> 00:51:33,137
- their mothers made sure
- that they ate.
- 1028
- 00:51:33,137 --> 00:51:35,893
- I‐‐I used to walk around, dizzy
- 1029
- 00:51:35,893 --> 00:51:37,313
- from not eating.
- 1030
- 00:51:37,313 --> 00:51:39,442
- As much‐‐as much
- as I loved the weekend
- 1031
- 00:51:39,442 --> 00:51:40,903
- as any kid would love
- the weekend‐‐
- 1032
- 00:51:40,903 --> 00:51:43,951
- Saturday morning cartoons,
- no school‐‐
- 1033
- 00:51:43,951 --> 00:51:47,792
- I also dreaded the weekends,
- because no school food,
- 1034
- 00:51:47,792 --> 00:51:49,879
- and that was‐‐the majority
- of my calories
- 1035
- 00:51:49,879 --> 00:51:52,175
- came from school lunch.
- 1036
- 00:51:52,175 --> 00:51:53,845
- Um...
- 1037
- 00:51:56,685 --> 00:51:58,772
- I‐it was tough.
- It was tough, coming up.
- 1038
- 00:52:00,651 --> 00:52:03,490
- How much of you
- is in this
- 1039
- 00:52:03,490 --> 00:52:05,828
- with a settlement in mind?
- 1040
- 00:52:05,828 --> 00:52:07,289
- ‐ You can offer me
- all the money in the world.
- 1041
- 00:52:07,289 --> 00:52:08,667
- No settlement.
- 1042
- 00:52:08,667 --> 00:52:11,046
- This system has to change.
- 1043
- 00:52:11,046 --> 00:52:12,842
- With a settlement,
- the system continues,
- 1044
- 00:52:12,842 --> 00:52:14,219
- and I'm not for that,
- 1045
- 00:52:14,219 --> 00:52:17,225
- and I hope that others
- understand this.
- 1046
- 00:52:17,225 --> 00:52:19,397
- You know, some may join
- the class action
- 1047
- 00:52:19,397 --> 00:52:21,150
- because of what was done
- to them.
- 1048
- 00:52:21,150 --> 00:52:23,112
- I joined to change this.
- 1049
- 00:52:40,104 --> 00:52:43,361
- ‐ Can we have somebody like you
- in the meeting
- 1050
- 00:52:43,361 --> 00:52:45,824
- If we decide to bring you in?
- 1051
- 00:52:45,824 --> 00:52:47,745
- If there is a meeting,
- like you said,
- 1052
- 00:52:47,745 --> 00:52:50,292
- one of us, two of us,
- in the meeting?
- 1053
- 00:52:50,292 --> 00:52:51,878
- You've been
- more like an expert.
- 1054
- 00:52:51,878 --> 00:52:53,214
- I'll consider somebody
- 1055
- 00:52:53,214 --> 00:52:54,759
- who went through
- the system already,
- 1056
- 00:52:54,759 --> 00:52:56,304
- some advisor
- who went through this already.
- 1057
- 00:52:56,304 --> 00:52:59,435
- We're gonna walk out‐‐
- walk in there blind,
- 1058
- 00:52:59,435 --> 00:53:01,356
- and that is not
- necessarily what we want.
- 1059
- 00:53:01,356 --> 00:53:02,983
- Uh, yes, it would be nice
- to get paid...
- 1060
- 00:53:02,983 --> 00:53:04,320
- ‐ M‐money is‐‐listen.
- 1061
- 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,489
- I hate to say it that way.
- 1062
- 00:53:05,489 --> 00:53:06,574
- A‐are they gonna fix everything
- 1063
- 00:53:06,574 --> 00:53:08,160
- they did wrong to you?
- 1064
- 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,539
- ‐ No, no, no, no, no.
- ‐ But money is absolutely
- 1065
- 00:53:09,539 --> 00:53:10,791
- the objective.
- 1066
- 00:53:10,791 --> 00:53:11,918
- Okay?
- 1067
- 00:53:11,918 --> 00:53:12,962
- ‐ Damages.
- 1068
- 00:53:12,962 --> 00:53:15,091
- ‐ The damages is
- 1069
- 00:53:15,091 --> 00:53:17,095
- when you hurt them
- in their pocketbook,
- 1070
- 00:53:17,095 --> 00:53:19,517
- that's long‐lasting.
- 1071
- 00:53:19,517 --> 00:53:20,894
- You follow me?
- 1072
- 00:53:20,894 --> 00:53:22,439
- The settlement
- for $26.8 million‐‐
- 1073
- 00:53:22,439 --> 00:53:24,277
- they're still talking
- about that today.
- 1074
- 00:53:24,277 --> 00:53:26,155
- Right?
- But it also made the blueprints
- 1075
- 00:53:26,155 --> 00:53:28,075
- for every other police agency
- to follow.
- 1076
- 00:53:28,075 --> 00:53:29,328
- If the things
- that they're giving you
- 1077
- 00:53:29,328 --> 00:53:30,747
- are significant in terms
- 1078
- 00:53:30,747 --> 00:53:33,169
- of systemic changes
- and permanency,
- 1079
- 00:53:33,169 --> 00:53:34,755
- then you may have
- to grab it,
- 1080
- 00:53:34,755 --> 00:53:36,843
- but when you go to trial,
- it's all about money.
- 1081
- 00:53:36,843 --> 00:53:38,471
- It ain't about nothing else.
- 1082
- 00:53:38,471 --> 00:53:42,897
- Settlement is about
- changing the process.
- 1083
- 00:53:42,897 --> 00:53:44,317
- ‐ What about the‐‐
- the injunctions?
- 1084
- 00:53:44,317 --> 00:53:46,236
- What about the changes?
- 1085
- 00:53:46,236 --> 00:53:49,785
- ‐ A trial is about dollars
- and cents.
- 1086
- 00:53:49,785 --> 00:53:51,956
- It's about damages.
- ‐ Damages.
- 1087
- 00:53:51,956 --> 00:53:53,418
- So when you go to trial
- 1088
- 00:53:53,418 --> 00:53:54,420
- and you go all the way down,
- 1089
- 00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:55,756
- it's gonna be like, okay,
- 1090
- 00:53:55,756 --> 00:53:56,925
- so the pocket's
- a little bigger
- 1091
- 00:53:56,925 --> 00:53:58,678
- and we're dividing more money,
- 1092
- 00:53:58,678 --> 00:54:00,265
- but systemic changes‐‐
- they don't have the authority
- 1093
- 00:54:00,265 --> 00:54:01,476
- to impose it.
- 1094
- 00:54:01,476 --> 00:54:02,937
- Got you.
- 1095
- 00:54:02,937 --> 00:54:04,440
- Want something
- to drink?
- 1096
- 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,109
- ‐ I guess.
- 1097
- 00:54:06,109 --> 00:54:07,655
- You guys have soda?
- 1098
- 00:54:07,655 --> 00:54:09,450
- Yeah, there's
- some of it somewhere.
- 1099
- 00:54:09,450 --> 00:54:10,786
- This media thing‐‐
- what are they gonna ask you?
- 1100
- 00:54:10,786 --> 00:54:12,205
- This is on a news station?
- 1101
- 00:54:12,205 --> 00:54:14,209
- ‐ NBC.
- ‐ NBC, okay.
- 1102
- 00:54:14,209 --> 00:54:16,589
- So whatever you're
- speaking about is to the point.
- 1103
- 00:54:16,589 --> 00:54:18,843
- There's no explanations.
- 1104
- 00:54:18,843 --> 00:54:20,681
- This is a punchline business.
- 1105
- 00:54:20,681 --> 00:54:22,643
- What is going to get
- the people's attention
- 1106
- 00:54:22,643 --> 00:54:24,062
- that you're talking about?
- 1107
- 00:54:24,062 --> 00:54:25,732
- The illegal quota systems.
- 1108
- 00:54:25,732 --> 00:54:28,863
- The, um, illegal arrests
- they're forcing us to make.
- 1109
- 00:54:28,863 --> 00:54:31,411
- Uh, the quotas targeting
- minority people, and‐‐
- 1110
- 00:54:31,411 --> 00:54:34,165
- ‐ Hey, listen, it's k‐killing
- communities of color,
- 1111
- 00:54:34,165 --> 00:54:35,877
- and these are‐‐that‐‐
- 1112
- 00:54:35,877 --> 00:54:37,464
- that warrants
- a response, right?
- 1113
- 00:54:37,464 --> 00:54:39,343
- So what do you mean, officer,
- by "killing"?
- 1114
- 00:54:39,343 --> 00:54:40,804
- They're killing them.
- 1115
- 00:54:40,804 --> 00:54:42,766
- They're locking them up
- for no reason.
- 1116
- 00:54:44,019 --> 00:54:46,691
- What you need
- is community backing.
- 1117
- 00:54:46,691 --> 00:54:48,068
- If the community backs you,
- 1118
- 00:54:48,068 --> 00:54:49,822
- then this gets a life
- of its own.
- 1119
- 00:54:49,822 --> 00:54:51,451
- If the community's not
- backing you,
- 1120
- 00:54:51,451 --> 00:54:52,494
- it's you
- and the police department,
- 1121
- 00:54:52,494 --> 00:54:54,457
- and nobody gives a damn.
- 1122
- 00:54:54,457 --> 00:54:58,465
- 'Cause you're talking about
- a public safety issue,
- 1123
- 00:54:58,465 --> 00:55:00,594
- where they're generating
- billions of dollars
- 1124
- 00:55:00,594 --> 00:55:03,516
- on the backs of poor people
- every day.
- 1125
- 00:55:03,516 --> 00:55:05,186
- See, that's a headline.
- 1126
- 00:55:05,186 --> 00:55:07,775
- That's it.
- ‐ Yes, it is.
- 1127
- 00:55:07,775 --> 00:55:09,445
- ‐ This administration
- 1128
- 00:55:09,445 --> 00:55:11,366
- this‐‐was supposed
- to be progressive,
- 1129
- 00:55:11,366 --> 00:55:13,828
- and things like, uh,
- affordable housing
- 1130
- 00:55:13,828 --> 00:55:17,126
- universal health care‐‐
- uh, universal, uh, pre‐K‐‐
- 1131
- 00:55:17,126 --> 00:55:19,632
- what's the point
- when in 12 years,
- 1132
- 00:55:19,632 --> 00:55:20,967
- that four‐year‐old
- will be swept
- 1133
- 00:55:20,967 --> 00:55:22,304
- into a quota system?
- 1134
- 00:55:22,304 --> 00:55:23,264
- And now
- you gotta take that
- 1135
- 00:55:23,264 --> 00:55:24,683
- and dumb it down.
- 1136
- 00:55:25,727 --> 00:55:27,063
- Okay?
- 1137
- 00:55:27,063 --> 00:55:29,443
- Connecting
- too many dots.
- 1138
- 00:55:29,443 --> 00:55:31,196
- ‐ You gotta‐‐
- you gotta dumb it down,
- 1139
- 00:55:31,196 --> 00:55:32,616
- 'cause remember,
- your whole point
- 1140
- 00:55:32,616 --> 00:55:34,537
- from point A to B‐‐
- never get there.
- 1141
- 00:55:34,537 --> 00:55:36,916
- Got it.
- ‐ So dumb it down.
- 1142
- 00:55:36,916 --> 00:55:39,170
- - ‐ Simplify.
- - They'll get lost.
- 1143
- 00:55:39,170 --> 00:55:40,590
- - ‐ I got it.
- - And‐‐and is this‐‐
- 1144
- 00:55:40,590 --> 00:55:43,346
- is the mayor responsible
- for this?
- 1145
- 00:55:43,346 --> 00:55:45,015
- ‐ Yeah.
- 1146
- 00:55:45,015 --> 00:55:46,394
- ‐ No.
- 1147
- 00:55:46,394 --> 00:55:47,938
- ‐ Well, not‐‐he's not
- responsible,
- 1148
- 00:55:47,938 --> 00:55:50,067
- but he's in a position
- where he...
- 1149
- 00:55:50,067 --> 00:55:52,239
- ‐ Listen to what they ask you.
- This is like baiting the‐‐
- 1150
- 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,285
- Oh, I see what you mean.
- ‐ Baiting the cow, right?
- 1151
- 00:55:54,285 --> 00:55:55,704
- Because they're telling you,
- "Is the mayor
- 1152
- 00:55:55,704 --> 00:55:57,374
- responsible for this?"
- "Yes, he is."
- 1153
- 00:55:57,374 --> 00:55:59,920
- "No, he's not, 'cause this
- has always been around."
- 1154
- 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:00,922
- Right?
- 1155
- 00:56:00,922 --> 00:56:02,301
- ‐ Gonna be a solution.
- 1156
- 00:56:02,301 --> 00:56:03,303
- Right,
- but the mayor ha‐‐
- 1157
- 00:56:03,303 --> 00:56:04,805
- can be a solution to it.
- 1158
- 00:56:07,769 --> 00:56:09,398
- ‐ I'll make a‐‐make us a member
- 1159
- 00:56:09,398 --> 00:56:10,775
- of the...
- 1160
- 00:56:56,576 --> 00:57:00,375
- ♪ You can scream
- if you want to, baby ♪
- 1161
- 00:57:00,375 --> 00:57:02,754
- ♪ But no one can hear ♪
- 1162
- 00:57:02,754 --> 00:57:05,427
- ♪ You can fight
- through the night ♪
- 1163
- 00:57:05,427 --> 00:57:09,183
- ♪ But by daylight
- you'll disappear ♪
- 1164
- 00:57:09,183 --> 00:57:13,066
- ♪ If there's a way to be okay,
- I'm sorry ♪
- 1165
- 00:57:13,066 --> 00:57:15,237
- ♪ It's just not clear ♪
- 1166
- 00:57:15,237 --> 00:57:16,782
- ♪ While you lay ♪
- 1167
- 00:57:16,782 --> 00:57:18,328
- ♪ Let me say ♪
- 1168
- 00:57:18,328 --> 00:57:21,542
- ♪ That you're
- the only one here ♪
- 1169
- 00:57:21,542 --> 00:57:24,465
- ♪ By the way ♪
- 1170
- 00:57:24,465 --> 00:57:26,761
- ♪ Maybe ♪
- 1171
- 00:57:28,055 --> 00:57:31,019
- ♪ Don't worry ♪
- 1172
- 00:57:31,019 --> 00:57:33,106
- ♪ It's okay ♪
- 1173
- 00:57:33,106 --> 00:57:35,152
- ♪ Just face your fear ♪
- 1174
- 00:57:42,793 --> 00:57:44,797
- Truly explosive allegations
- 1175
- 00:57:44,797 --> 00:57:46,717
- in an I‐Team exclusive
- interview.
- 1176
- 00:57:46,717 --> 00:57:48,388
- They're coming
- from police officers who are
- 1177
- 00:57:48,388 --> 00:57:51,017
- part of what's being called
- the NYPD 12,
- 1178
- 00:57:51,017 --> 00:57:53,523
- 12 cops who filed
- a class action lawsuit
- 1179
- 00:57:53,523 --> 00:57:55,067
- in federal court.
- 1180
- 00:57:55,067 --> 00:57:56,194
- ‐ The department says
- there are no quotas.
- 1181
- 00:57:56,194 --> 00:57:57,489
- ‐ Well, I can tell you.
- 1182
- 00:57:57,489 --> 00:57:58,658
- I'm a police officer.
- 1183
- 00:57:58,658 --> 00:58:00,370
- There are quotas
- in the NYPD.
- 1184
- 00:58:00,370 --> 00:58:01,372
- ‐ Are they lying?
- 1185
- 00:58:01,372 --> 00:58:02,749
- ‐ Absolutely.
- 1186
- 00:58:02,749 --> 00:58:04,461
- It's illegal for them
- to admit it.
- 1187
- 00:58:04,461 --> 00:58:06,799
- ‐ The worst thing you can have
- is a police officer
- 1188
- 00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:09,763
- that needs an arrest
- for the month.
- 1189
- 00:58:09,763 --> 00:58:11,892
- ‐ You might not see nothing.
- You're supposed to be visible.
- 1190
- 00:58:11,892 --> 00:58:13,646
- You might not see anything,
- but you go hunting,
- 1191
- 00:58:13,646 --> 00:58:15,608
- like, bounty hunting,
- for an arrest.
- 1192
- 00:58:15,608 --> 00:58:17,529
- Kids getting locked up
- for‐‐for‐‐for BS.
- 1193
- 00:58:17,529 --> 00:58:19,198
- Come out there
- to ride their bicycles...
- 1194
- 00:58:19,198 --> 00:58:20,952
- ‐ The problem is,
- when you go hunting,
- 1195
- 00:58:20,952 --> 00:58:22,622
- when you put any type
- of numbers
- 1196
- 00:58:22,622 --> 00:58:24,585
- of a police officer to perform,
- 1197
- 00:58:24,585 --> 00:58:26,464
- we are gonna go
- to the most vulnerable.
- 1198
- 00:58:26,464 --> 00:58:27,799
- ‐ The most vulnerable?
- ‐ Of course.
- 1199
- 00:58:27,799 --> 00:58:29,636
- We're gonna go
- to LGBT community.
- 1200
- 00:58:29,636 --> 00:58:30,764
- We're gonna go
- to the black community.
- 1201
- 00:58:30,764 --> 00:58:32,224
- We're gonna go to those people
- 1202
- 00:58:32,224 --> 00:58:34,103
- that have no vote,
- that have no power.
- 1203
- 00:58:34,103 --> 00:58:35,815
- ‐ All they want us to do is
- go out there and lock them up.
- 1204
- 00:58:35,815 --> 00:58:38,279
- They told us, it's‐‐
- it's easy to get numbers
- 1205
- 00:58:38,279 --> 00:58:39,948
- out here, because you‐‐
- you work
- 1206
- 00:58:39,948 --> 00:58:41,243
- in this type of community.
- 1207
- 00:58:41,243 --> 00:58:42,579
- So you're all minorities.
- 1208
- 00:58:42,579 --> 00:58:44,040
- How does that make you fe‐‐
- 1209
- 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,418
- ‐ This is something coming
- from the top
- 1210
- 00:58:45,418 --> 00:58:46,879
- that trickles its way down,
- 1211
- 00:58:46,879 --> 00:58:48,549
- and this is why
- we're all here today.
- 1212
- 00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:49,885
- Are you arresting
- for stuff
- 1213
- 00:58:49,885 --> 00:58:51,012
- that you shouldn't
- be arresting for?
- 1214
- 00:58:51,012 --> 00:58:52,097
- ‐ Well, that's why we're here.
- 1215
- 00:58:52,097 --> 00:58:53,601
- We don't do it.
- 1216
- 00:58:53,601 --> 00:58:55,605
- We refuse, and because of that,
- 1217
- 00:58:55,605 --> 00:58:56,982
- we are retaliated against.
- 1218
- 00:58:56,982 --> 00:58:58,778
- ‐ Because you're not
- harassing people,
- 1219
- 00:58:58,778 --> 00:59:00,657
- you're being punished.
- 1220
- 00:59:00,657 --> 00:59:03,329
- That doesn't make
- for a great work environment,
- 1221
- 00:59:03,329 --> 00:59:05,207
- because they want you
- to harass people.
- 1222
- 00:59:05,207 --> 00:59:06,710
- You know,
- this is a big step,
- 1223
- 00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:08,129
- to come forward like this.
- 1224
- 00:59:08,129 --> 00:59:09,842
- It's not easy.
- It's not easy.
- 1225
- 00:59:09,842 --> 00:59:11,219
- Um, we are the enemies.
- 1226
- 00:59:11,219 --> 00:59:12,764
- We are the people
- that nobody talk to.
- 1227
- 00:59:12,764 --> 00:59:14,977
- We are the rats that speak out.
- 1228
- 00:59:14,977 --> 00:59:18,609
- It takes a lot of guts to stand
- where we stand,
- 1229
- 00:59:18,609 --> 00:59:21,114
- knowing that our career
- is basically over
- 1230
- 00:59:21,114 --> 00:59:24,413
- the second we speak
- against such a mafia.
- 1231
- 00:59:24,413 --> 00:59:25,957
- ‐ Again,
- the police commissioner
- 1232
- 00:59:25,957 --> 00:59:27,460
- declined to go on camera
- 1233
- 00:59:27,460 --> 00:59:29,213
- to address the allegations,
- 1234
- 00:59:29,213 --> 00:59:31,969
- for quotas
- or racial discrimination.
- 1235
- 00:59:31,969 --> 00:59:33,848
- ‐ Uh, it just gives me, like,
- 1236
- 00:59:33,848 --> 00:59:37,104
- butterflies in my stomach,
- you know?
- 1237
- 00:59:37,104 --> 00:59:41,154
- ‐ Yeah, it's nervo‐‐
- it's nerve‐rattling.
- 1238
- 00:59:41,154 --> 00:59:44,786
- I think that they'll,
- uh, try to make us
- 1239
- 00:59:44,786 --> 00:59:48,419
- as uncomfortable as they can
- 1240
- 00:59:48,419 --> 00:59:50,632
- without actually, you know,
- 1241
- 00:59:50,632 --> 00:59:54,598
- making it seem like
- they're retaliating against us.
- 1242
- 00:59:54,598 --> 00:59:56,477
- I don't know exactly
- what's going to happen,
- 1243
- 00:59:56,477 --> 00:59:58,648
- because, you know, this is‐‐
- this is a big thing,
- 1244
- 00:59:58,648 --> 01:00:01,235
- 'cause...
- 1245
- 01:00:01,235 --> 01:00:02,697
- It's not just the 12 of us
- 1246
- 01:00:02,697 --> 01:00:05,077
- that's been har‐‐harassed,
- like I said.
- 1247
- 01:00:05,077 --> 01:00:08,124
- It's much more,
- 1248
- 01:00:08,124 --> 01:00:10,254
- and they‐‐they don't want
- everybody coming forward,
- 1249
- 01:00:10,254 --> 01:00:13,970
- so they have to do
- some type of retaliation
- 1250
- 01:00:13,970 --> 01:00:15,848
- to put fear in others
- 1251
- 01:00:15,848 --> 01:00:17,727
- to discourage them
- from coming forward,
- 1252
- 01:00:17,727 --> 01:00:20,107
- and...
- 1253
- 01:00:20,107 --> 01:00:22,404
- what‐‐what they're going
- to decide to do, I'm not sure.
- 1254
- 01:00:38,894 --> 01:00:40,188
- So basically,
- we're here today
- 1255
- 01:00:40,188 --> 01:00:41,900
- filing a opposition
- 1256
- 01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:43,111
- to the city's motion to dismiss
- 1257
- 01:00:43,111 --> 01:00:45,533
- for our NYPD 12 class action.
- 1258
- 01:00:45,533 --> 01:00:48,204
- All the NYPD 12 has recordings
- 1259
- 01:00:48,204 --> 01:00:50,710
- of their‐‐
- of their supervisors
- 1260
- 01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:53,173
- pushing them
- to meet their quotas.
- 1261
- 01:00:53,173 --> 01:00:55,093
- Now, it's implied that‐‐
- 1262
- 01:00:55,093 --> 01:00:57,515
- well, it's not‐‐
- it's pretty explicit, actually,
- 1263
- 01:00:57,515 --> 01:01:00,103
- in several different precincts,
- 1264
- 01:01:00,103 --> 01:01:02,107
- that you need to target males,
- 1265
- 01:01:02,107 --> 01:01:04,613
- especially black
- and Hispanic males, 14 to 21.
- 1266
- 01:01:04,613 --> 01:01:07,201
- ‐ And in the class action,
- we also have proof
- 1267
- 01:01:07,201 --> 01:01:09,498
- where a, um, police captain
- 1268
- 01:01:09,498 --> 01:01:11,293
- puts the quotas‐‐
- number that he wants
- 1269
- 01:01:11,293 --> 01:01:13,129
- on the wall,
- and then tells the guys
- 1270
- 01:01:13,129 --> 01:01:14,591
- "If you don't get
- these numbers,
- 1271
- 01:01:14,591 --> 01:01:16,386
- you're gonna be working
- at Pizza Hut."
- 1272
- 01:01:16,386 --> 01:01:17,931
- Now, you can't make that up.
- 1273
- 01:01:17,931 --> 01:01:19,267
- This is what's going on,
- 1274
- 01:01:19,267 --> 01:01:21,062
- and in this lawsuit,
- we'll show this.
- 1275
- 01:01:21,062 --> 01:01:23,317
- This department
- cannot correct itself,
- 1276
- 01:01:23,317 --> 01:01:26,323
- monitor itself,
- and punish itself.
- 1277
- 01:01:26,323 --> 01:01:28,536
- We need an independent body
- to do this,
- 1278
- 01:01:28,536 --> 01:01:30,832
- and this lawsuit will be
- the foundation to do that.
- 1279
- 01:01:37,804 --> 01:01:40,351
- Have you noticed
- that they've been treating you
- 1280
- 01:01:40,351 --> 01:01:43,607
- any differently at all
- since NBC's interview?
- 1281
- 01:01:43,607 --> 01:01:45,570
- Yeah, immediately.
- Immediately, I was, you know,
- 1282
- 01:01:45,570 --> 01:01:47,114
- I g‐‐I got ostracized,
- 1283
- 01:01:47,114 --> 01:01:48,617
- and‐‐you know,
- and then they put me here.
- 1284
- 01:01:48,617 --> 01:01:50,162
- They bury me here.
- 1285
- 01:01:50,162 --> 01:01:52,082
- This foot post‐‐
- hear how they were like,
- 1286
- 01:01:52,082 --> 01:01:53,377
- "You can't even leave.
- 1287
- 01:01:53,377 --> 01:01:54,921
- You have to stay
- in this area.
- 1288
- 01:01:54,921 --> 01:01:56,132
- Even though I see something
- over here,
- 1289
- 01:01:56,132 --> 01:01:57,217
- I can't address it.
- 1290
- 01:01:57,217 --> 01:01:59,221
- I have to stay here.
- 1291
- 01:02:03,939 --> 01:02:06,110
- You know,
- they took away my overtime,
- 1292
- 01:02:06,110 --> 01:02:07,530
- and now I'm like,
- "Well, damn.
- 1293
- 01:02:07,530 --> 01:02:09,910
- "What if they put me
- on midnights?
- 1294
- 01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:12,707
- "What's going to happen to me
- if they put me on midnights,
- 1295
- 01:02:12,707 --> 01:02:14,252
- "my daughter's going
- to college,
- 1296
- 01:02:14,252 --> 01:02:16,130
- "and I have a ten‐year‐old
- at home?
- 1297
- 01:02:16,130 --> 01:02:17,675
- What is going to happen?"
- 1298
- 01:02:20,473 --> 01:02:23,479
- ‐ They gave me a‐‐
- a low evaluation.
- 1299
- 01:02:23,479 --> 01:02:26,485
- They put a bunch
- of false statements
- 1300
- 01:02:26,485 --> 01:02:28,614
- on the evaluation
- to bring my numbers down
- 1301
- 01:02:28,614 --> 01:02:31,328
- to place me
- on performance monitoring.
- 1302
- 01:02:31,328 --> 01:02:34,709
- This evaluation,
- I receive a 2.5 average.
- 1303
- 01:02:36,922 --> 01:02:38,968
- They put you on‐‐
- on midnights?
- 1304
- 01:02:38,968 --> 01:02:40,011
- They put me
- on midnights,
- 1305
- 01:02:40,011 --> 01:02:41,431
- they changed my tour,
- 1306
- 01:02:41,431 --> 01:02:42,892
- then they split up
- me and my partner.
- 1307
- 01:02:42,892 --> 01:02:44,854
- It's just the way
- they went about it.
- 1308
- 01:02:44,854 --> 01:02:47,150
- It was very sneaky,
- very snake‐ish.
- 1309
- 01:02:47,150 --> 01:02:49,364
- You know?
- So...
- 1310
- 01:02:49,364 --> 01:02:50,658
- I don't know what
- they're going to pull next,
- 1311
- 01:02:50,658 --> 01:02:51,952
- so I'm waiting‐‐
- I'm waiting to see
- 1312
- 01:02:51,952 --> 01:02:53,622
- what else they're going
- to pull.
- 1313
- 01:02:57,714 --> 01:02:59,174
- ‐ This is actually something
- 1314
- 01:02:59,174 --> 01:03:01,930
- that was placed on my desk.
- 1315
- 01:03:01,930 --> 01:03:04,769
- This is the last six months
- 1316
- 01:03:04,769 --> 01:03:05,980
- of my life.
- 1317
- 01:03:05,980 --> 01:03:07,692
- As you see, all the orange,
- 1318
- 01:03:07,692 --> 01:03:09,446
- I'm in a sector car.
- 1319
- 01:03:09,446 --> 01:03:11,115
- The 31st of March
- 1320
- 01:03:11,115 --> 01:03:13,620
- was when
- the NBC News interview aired.
- 1321
- 01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:17,127
- Since then, I was basically
- taken outside of my car.
- 1322
- 01:03:17,127 --> 01:03:21,303
- Retaliation, retaliation,
- retaliation, retaliation.
- 1323
- 01:03:21,303 --> 01:03:24,726
- ‐ Last week, I found myself,
- like, working with my partner,
- 1324
- 01:03:24,726 --> 01:03:26,228
- and I said to him,
- 1325
- 01:03:26,228 --> 01:03:27,565
- "I gotta get a summons.
- 1326
- 01:03:27,565 --> 01:03:29,068
- "You know,
- I gotta get something.
- 1327
- 01:03:29,068 --> 01:03:30,613
- I have to bring in
- something this month,"
- 1328
- 01:03:30,613 --> 01:03:33,369
- and I didn't like
- the way that made me feel,
- 1329
- 01:03:33,369 --> 01:03:36,375
- because I'm scared, you know?
- 1330
- 01:03:36,375 --> 01:03:37,794
- So what do you think
- 1331
- 01:03:37,794 --> 01:03:39,381
- is coming out of the pipe?
- Like...
- 1332
- 01:03:39,381 --> 01:03:40,883
- ‐ Well, now, I'm gonna
- record everything,
- 1333
- 01:03:40,883 --> 01:03:42,470
- because I'm afraid that,
- you know,
- 1334
- 01:03:42,470 --> 01:03:44,098
- they're making things up
- as they're going along.
- 1335
- 01:03:44,098 --> 01:03:46,478
- So it's‐‐it's ridiculous.
- 1336
- 01:03:46,478 --> 01:03:48,399
- When did this
- start picking up?
- 1337
- 01:03:48,399 --> 01:03:50,528
- ‐ Oh, right after the NBC.
- 1338
- 01:03:50,528 --> 01:03:52,155
- Yeah, right after the NBC,
- 1339
- 01:03:52,155 --> 01:03:54,034
- uh, press release.
- 1340
- 01:03:54,034 --> 01:03:55,663
- I kind of knew that
- because that's the answer‐‐
- 1341
- 01:03:55,663 --> 01:03:57,333
- ‐ Yeah, all the guys were
- saying the same thing?
- 1342
- 01:03:57,333 --> 01:03:58,419
- Oh, yeah.
- 1343
- 01:03:58,419 --> 01:03:59,671
- All right, so‐‐
- 1344
- 01:03:59,671 --> 01:04:01,173
- so you hold that.
- 1345
- 01:04:01,173 --> 01:04:02,760
- You see the top button, right?
- 1346
- 01:04:04,973 --> 01:04:07,395
- Now it's recording.
- 1347
- 01:04:09,064 --> 01:04:12,321
- ‐ Now to record...
- 1348
- 01:04:12,321 --> 01:04:13,824
- hold it for one quick second.
- 1349
- 01:04:18,750 --> 01:04:20,546
- It's recording the fan.
- 1350
- 01:04:23,050 --> 01:04:24,846
- Record Steve.
- 1351
- 01:04:26,725 --> 01:04:29,104
- Now we turn it off.
- 1352
- 01:04:29,104 --> 01:04:31,401
- Recently, that sergeant
- 1353
- 01:04:31,401 --> 01:04:34,741
- she just addressed roll call,
- and made the statement
- 1354
- 01:04:34,741 --> 01:04:37,872
- that I was recording
- 1355
- 01:04:37,872 --> 01:04:39,876
- and videotaping everybody
- 1356
- 01:04:39,876 --> 01:04:41,379
- in the precinct
- 1357
- 01:04:41,379 --> 01:04:43,592
- when it wasn't true.
- 1358
- 01:04:43,592 --> 01:04:45,513
- She just said it out loud
- 1359
- 01:04:45,513 --> 01:04:47,057
- for everybody to hear,
- 1360
- 01:04:47,057 --> 01:04:49,354
- and I‐‐I couldn't do anything,
- 1361
- 01:04:49,354 --> 01:04:51,232
- and I felt sick.
- 1362
- 01:04:51,232 --> 01:04:54,196
- I fainted
- because I felt powerless.
- 1363
- 01:04:54,196 --> 01:04:56,116
- ‐ You‐‐you fainted
- at roll call?
- 1364
- 01:04:56,116 --> 01:04:58,204
- - ‐ At roll call.
- - Everybody was there?
- 1365
- 01:04:58,204 --> 01:05:00,041
- ‐ Everybody was there.
- ‐ Ritchie, were you there?
- 1366
- 01:05:00,041 --> 01:05:01,545
- Yes, I was there.
- 1367
- 01:05:01,545 --> 01:05:03,298
- I was shocked that she said
- all of that,
- 1368
- 01:05:03,298 --> 01:05:06,388
- and on top of that,
- Sandy's on the floor,
- 1369
- 01:05:06,388 --> 01:05:09,310
- basically clutching his chest
- with pain.
- 1370
- 01:05:09,310 --> 01:05:12,065
- She's saying, "Why you faking?"
- 1371
- 01:05:14,027 --> 01:05:15,531
- ‐ It's‐‐it's taking‐‐
- 1372
- 01:05:15,531 --> 01:05:18,370
- I feel like I don't even
- want to go to work.
- 1373
- 01:05:59,535 --> 01:06:02,458
- ‐ It still hot,
- or it got cooler in there?
- 1374
- 01:06:14,064 --> 01:06:15,734
- ‐ And the underwears.
- That's what you had told me
- 1375
- 01:06:15,734 --> 01:06:17,153
- - the last time.
- - Yeah.
- 1376
- 01:06:20,369 --> 01:06:22,080
- ‐ And I have the book
- that you wanted.
- 1377
- 01:06:23,337 --> 01:06:25,462
- ‐ "All Quiet
- on the Western" something.
- 1378
- 01:06:25,462 --> 01:06:27,508
- He say they good,
- but if you don't get into it
- 1379
- 01:06:27,508 --> 01:06:28,969
- at the beginning,
- 1380
- 01:06:28,969 --> 01:06:30,389
- that then you won't
- get into it,
- 1381
- 01:06:30,389 --> 01:06:32,893
- but that they good.
- 1382
- 01:06:35,315 --> 01:06:37,235
- ‐ Yeah.
- 1383
- 01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:46,796
- Well, Pedro Hernandez
- has been in Rikers
- 1384
- 01:06:46,796 --> 01:06:48,467
- for the past eight months
- 1385
- 01:06:48,467 --> 01:06:51,054
- for a crime he didn't commit.
- 1386
- 01:06:51,054 --> 01:06:53,184
- What are they saying
- that Pedro did?
- 1387
- 01:06:53,184 --> 01:06:55,188
- ‐ They say Pedro
- pulled out a gun
- 1388
- 01:06:55,188 --> 01:06:56,775
- and shot into
- a group of kids,
- 1389
- 01:06:56,775 --> 01:06:59,280
- but I found several witnesses
- 1390
- 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,411
- which prove that Pedro
- didn't shoot the kid,
- 1391
- 01:07:02,411 --> 01:07:04,624
- and the cop
- that arrested Pedro
- 1392
- 01:07:04,624 --> 01:07:08,340
- also had falsified
- six other arrests against him,
- 1393
- 01:07:08,340 --> 01:07:10,761
- and he was promoted
- to detective,
- 1394
- 01:07:10,761 --> 01:07:12,640
- because over the course
- of his career,
- 1395
- 01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,352
- he's made over 1,000 arrests,
- 1396
- 01:07:14,352 --> 01:07:18,443
- which exceeds the quota
- by three times.
- 1397
- 01:07:18,443 --> 01:07:20,154
- Here's the shooting victim,
- 1398
- 01:07:20,154 --> 01:07:22,033
- which I'll be meeting with
- 1399
- 01:07:22,033 --> 01:07:23,662
- later on tonight.
- 1400
- 01:07:25,874 --> 01:07:29,214
- Yeah, Shaun, you there?
- 1401
- 01:07:29,214 --> 01:07:30,843
- I'm downstairs.
- 1402
- 01:07:30,843 --> 01:07:32,721
- Come downstairs.
- I'm downstairs.
- 1403
- 01:07:33,265 --> 01:07:36,019
- This is what I'm talking about.
- 1404
- 01:07:36,019 --> 01:07:38,525
- I gotta put an end
- to this,
- 1405
- 01:07:38,525 --> 01:07:41,238
- but I can't do it
- by myself.
- 1406
- 01:07:41,238 --> 01:07:42,575
- All right?
- 1407
- 01:07:42,575 --> 01:07:44,537
- Now's the time
- where I need you
- 1408
- 01:07:44,537 --> 01:07:47,083
- to lace up your boots,
- 1409
- 01:07:47,083 --> 01:07:49,630
- and be hard down with me
- and knuckle up,
- 1410
- 01:07:49,630 --> 01:07:51,342
- 'cause we're gonna go
- to a fight right now,
- 1411
- 01:07:51,342 --> 01:07:52,928
- and the fight's gonna be
- in court,
- 1412
- 01:07:52,928 --> 01:07:54,390
- and you gotta tell the truth.
- 1413
- 01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:55,893
- And then, after that,
- we're gonna go
- 1414
- 01:07:55,893 --> 01:07:57,438
- to your deposition,
- 1415
- 01:07:57,438 --> 01:07:59,275
- and you're gonna tell them
- and the city,
- 1416
- 01:07:59,275 --> 01:08:00,485
- and I want you to look
- them in the eye,
- 1417
- 01:08:00,485 --> 01:08:02,573
- just like you're looking
- at me,
- 1418
- 01:08:02,573 --> 01:08:04,034
- because when you looked at me
- like this,
- 1419
- 01:08:04,034 --> 01:08:06,414
- guess what I did.
- 1420
- 01:08:06,414 --> 01:08:08,919
- I believed you.
- 1421
- 01:08:08,919 --> 01:08:10,547
- All right, Shaun.
- 1422
- 01:08:10,547 --> 01:08:14,137
- So can you just
- run down with me one more time
- 1423
- 01:08:14,137 --> 01:08:18,813
- on what happened
- the day you got shot?
- 1424
- 01:08:18,813 --> 01:08:22,236
- On September 1, 2015,
- 1425
- 01:08:22,236 --> 01:08:23,448
- were you in the Bronx?
- 1426
- 01:08:23,448 --> 01:08:24,867
- ‐ Yes, I was.
- 1427
- 01:08:24,867 --> 01:08:26,454
- Okay.
- And what did you see?
- 1428
- 01:08:26,454 --> 01:08:27,998
- ‐ While I was walking
- to my friend's house,
- 1429
- 01:08:27,998 --> 01:08:29,710
- I had seen a group of kids
- 1430
- 01:08:29,710 --> 01:08:30,921
- arguing and screaming.
- 1431
- 01:08:30,921 --> 01:08:32,173
- ‐ So they was fighting,
- 1432
- 01:08:32,173 --> 01:08:33,426
- and from out of nowhere,
- 1433
- 01:08:33,426 --> 01:08:35,430
- you see this guy
- 1434
- 01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:37,016
- shot, uh, the group.
- 1435
- 01:08:37,016 --> 01:08:39,397
- ‐ I ain't look back.
- I just started taking off
- 1436
- 01:08:39,397 --> 01:08:40,524
- - started running.
- - Did you realize
- 1437
- 01:08:40,524 --> 01:08:42,068
- you was shot, or...
- 1438
- 01:08:42,068 --> 01:08:44,240
- ‐ Yeah, after a while,
- I... started, like‐‐
- 1439
- 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,159
- I started feeling the pain
- in my leg.
- 1440
- 01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:48,581
- Did you see the guy
- who shot the gun?
- 1441
- 01:08:48,581 --> 01:08:50,377
- - ‐ Yes.
- - Do you know who he is?
- 1442
- 01:08:50,377 --> 01:08:51,838
- ‐ Yes, I do.
- 1443
- 01:08:51,838 --> 01:08:54,050
- ‐ No, a female
- and a light‐skinned cop
- 1444
- 01:08:54,050 --> 01:08:55,595
- asked me questions.
- 1445
- 01:08:55,595 --> 01:08:57,725
- I'm like, "I don't know.
- I ain't seen nothing."
- 1446
- 01:08:57,725 --> 01:09:00,313
- They just keep on‐‐keep on
- asking me the same questions.
- 1447
- 01:09:00,313 --> 01:09:01,983
- I'm like, "How am I supposed to
- tell you
- 1448
- 01:09:01,983 --> 01:09:04,237
- something I don't know?"
- Like, I ain't got
- 1449
- 01:09:04,237 --> 01:09:05,949
- to see his face or nothing,
- like...
- 1450
- 01:09:05,949 --> 01:09:07,786
- So what did he want you
- to do?
- 1451
- 01:09:07,786 --> 01:09:09,331
- ‐ They want me to just say,
- 1452
- 01:09:09,331 --> 01:09:11,043
- they want me to just say
- somebody that‐‐
- 1453
- 01:09:11,043 --> 01:09:12,504
- somebody shot me
- that I did not know
- 1454
- 01:09:12,504 --> 01:09:13,590
- from a hole in a wall.
- 1455
- 01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:15,134
- By any chance,
- 1456
- 01:09:15,134 --> 01:09:17,055
- was Pedro Hernandez there?
- 1457
- 01:09:17,055 --> 01:09:18,850
- Did you see him shoot anybody?
- 1458
- 01:09:18,850 --> 01:09:21,146
- Did you involved in the fight?
- ‐ No, I didn't.
- 1459
- 01:09:21,146 --> 01:09:22,566
- I didn't saw him fighting
- 1460
- 01:09:22,566 --> 01:09:25,071
- and I did not see him
- shoot no gun.
- 1461
- 01:09:25,071 --> 01:09:27,451
- Was Pedro Hernandez
- involved in that shooting?
- 1462
- 01:09:27,451 --> 01:09:29,622
- ‐ No.
- ‐ Telling them, like,
- 1463
- 01:09:29,622 --> 01:09:30,749
- "I don't remember nothing,"
- like,
- 1464
- 01:09:30,749 --> 01:09:32,252
- He like,
- 1465
- 01:09:32,252 --> 01:09:34,047
- "Stop playing, 'fore I‐‐
- 1466
- 01:09:34,047 --> 01:09:35,842
- 'fore I punch your head into
- the wall."
- 1467
- 01:09:35,842 --> 01:09:38,138
- ‐ How come you wouldn't say
- Pedro shot you?
- 1468
- 01:09:38,138 --> 01:09:39,809
- ‐ 'Cause I ain't‐‐
- I don't‐‐
- 1469
- 01:09:39,809 --> 01:09:41,395
- never even heard of him
- 1470
- 01:09:41,395 --> 01:09:42,940
- until, like,
- that situation happened.
- 1471
- 01:09:42,940 --> 01:09:44,192
- Like...
- 1472
- 01:09:44,192 --> 01:09:45,236
- That took
- a lot of strength
- 1473
- 01:09:45,236 --> 01:09:47,241
- for you to deal with that
- 1474
- 01:09:47,241 --> 01:09:49,328
- and stay arrested for two days.
- 1475
- 01:09:49,328 --> 01:09:50,580
- ‐ Mm.
- 1476
- 01:09:50,580 --> 01:09:52,041
- Wow.
- Any other cat
- 1477
- 01:09:52,041 --> 01:09:53,503
- would've just said,
- 1478
- 01:09:53,503 --> 01:09:55,005
- - ‐ "That's him."
- - "That's him,"
- 1479
- 01:09:55,005 --> 01:09:56,509
- just to get out of there,
- but you didn't.
- 1480
- 01:09:56,509 --> 01:09:57,761
- - ‐ No.
- - I got a lot
- 1481
- 01:09:57,761 --> 01:09:59,180
- of respect for you.
- 1482
- 01:09:59,180 --> 01:10:01,101
- That took a lot of honor.
- God bless you.
- 1483
- 01:10:03,648 --> 01:10:05,610
- Hey, Jessica?
- 1484
- 01:10:05,610 --> 01:10:07,029
- How are you?
- 1485
- 01:10:09,737 --> 01:10:10,768
- Did you see
- the video?
- 1486
- 01:10:24,407 --> 01:10:25,984
- ‐ No.
- 1487
- 01:10:27,988 --> 01:10:29,115
- I lost her.
- 1488
- 01:10:30,994 --> 01:10:34,251
- She'll call me back.
- 1489
- 01:10:34,251 --> 01:10:37,299
- That's the first time
- I heard that mother happy.
- 1490
- 01:11:02,557 --> 01:11:03,893
- ‐ We also want to acknowledge
- 1491
- 01:11:03,893 --> 01:11:06,106
- other, uh, police officers
- 1492
- 01:11:06,106 --> 01:11:09,153
- who have really taken on
- a lot of heat
- 1493
- 01:11:09,153 --> 01:11:11,409
- for them coming out
- and whistle‐blowing
- 1494
- 01:11:11,409 --> 01:11:13,997
- on‐‐on the issues of quotas
- 1495
- 01:11:13,997 --> 01:11:15,792
- that‐‐of ticketing
- and whatnot,
- 1496
- 01:11:15,792 --> 01:11:17,086
- and we want to let them know
- 1497
- 01:11:17,086 --> 01:11:18,088
- that we have their backs
- 1498
- 01:11:18,088 --> 01:11:19,383
- 'cause that is what...
- 1499
- 01:11:31,532 --> 01:11:33,786
- ‐ I spoke to him.
- It wasn't a good conversation.
- 1500
- 01:11:33,786 --> 01:11:35,749
- He wasn't supportive, um,
- at, um‐‐
- 1501
- 01:11:35,749 --> 01:11:37,502
- of what we did at NBC studios,
- 1502
- 01:11:37,502 --> 01:11:40,090
- He didn't‐‐he felt
- he didn't see the need for it,
- 1503
- 01:11:40,090 --> 01:11:42,346
- and I tell him, "You're crazy
- if you believe that, man.
- 1504
- 01:11:42,346 --> 01:11:44,933
- We're fighting‐‐
- this is David versus Goliath."
- 1505
- 01:11:44,933 --> 01:11:46,437
- ‐ Yeah.
- ‐ Without public outreach,
- 1506
- 01:11:46,437 --> 01:11:48,441
- without public support,
- we're nothing.
- 1507
- 01:11:50,945 --> 01:11:53,075
- I saw a friend here
- from the academy.
- 1508
- 01:11:53,075 --> 01:11:54,495
- She didn't want
- to speak to me, man.
- 1509
- 01:11:54,495 --> 01:11:56,122
- ‐ What?
- ‐ I said I saw a friend here
- 1510
- 01:11:56,122 --> 01:11:57,793
- from the academy.
- She didn't want to speak to me.
- 1511
- 01:11:57,793 --> 01:11:59,588
- ‐ Right here?
- Wow.
- 1512
- 01:11:59,588 --> 01:12:00,924
- Which one was it?
- 1513
- 01:12:00,924 --> 01:12:02,594
- ‐ I'll sh‐‐I'll show you.
- 1514
- 01:12:22,007 --> 01:12:23,761
- We're rated
- on a five‐point scale
- 1515
- 01:12:23,761 --> 01:12:25,682
- with half‐intervals.
- 1516
- 01:12:25,682 --> 01:12:27,727
- So anything below a three
- 1517
- 01:12:27,727 --> 01:12:30,900
- can ruin your career
- for the rest of your career.
- 1518
- 01:12:30,900 --> 01:12:33,448
- These are the comments.
- So I started off reading it.
- 1519
- 01:12:33,448 --> 01:12:34,783
- I was shocked,
- because I thought you‐‐
- 1520
- 01:12:34,783 --> 01:12:36,245
- you can only
- put three comments.
- 1521
- 01:12:36,245 --> 01:12:37,330
- I couldn't even know
- you could even put
- 1522
- 01:12:37,330 --> 01:12:38,458
- so many comments
- 1523
- 01:12:38,458 --> 01:12:40,043
- in an evaluation.
- 1524
- 01:12:40,043 --> 01:12:42,757
- And, you know, the first three
- were regular,
- 1525
- 01:12:42,757 --> 01:12:45,053
- and then right here,
- number 25,
- 1526
- 01:12:45,053 --> 01:12:48,436
- "Drive/Initiative."
- 1527
- 01:12:48,436 --> 01:12:51,107
- "PO Raymond
- needs constant supervision.
- 1528
- 01:12:51,107 --> 01:12:53,362
- "PO Raymond do not take
- any initiative
- 1529
- 01:12:53,362 --> 01:12:57,036
- "or shows any drive
- unless specifically directed
- 1530
- 01:12:57,036 --> 01:12:58,623
- by a supervisor."
- 1531
- 01:12:58,623 --> 01:13:00,919
- Number 16, "Reasoning ability."
- 1532
- 01:13:00,919 --> 01:13:04,593
- "PO Raymond cannot apply rules
- or procedures to situations
- 1533
- 01:13:04,593 --> 01:13:06,514
- "or cannot see how events
- or information
- 1534
- 01:13:06,514 --> 01:13:08,476
- "relate to the solution
- of a problem.
- 1535
- 01:13:08,476 --> 01:13:11,607
- "He does not see how a series
- of events are related
- 1536
- 01:13:11,607 --> 01:13:13,151
- "or connected to one another,
- 1537
- 01:13:13,151 --> 01:13:15,072
- "nor can he form
- logical conclusions
- 1538
- 01:13:15,072 --> 01:13:16,617
- from the events."
- 1539
- 01:13:16,617 --> 01:13:18,454
- And I'm reading this, like,
- "Oh, my God."
- 1540
- 01:13:18,454 --> 01:13:21,252
- Like, this thing
- is making me sound like...
- 1541
- 01:13:21,252 --> 01:13:22,629
- I have a low IQ.
- 1542
- 01:13:22,629 --> 01:13:24,173
- I mean, the grammar is off,
- 1543
- 01:13:24,173 --> 01:13:25,885
- and stuff doesn't make sense.
- 1544
- 01:13:25,885 --> 01:13:28,683
- A‐and it just goes on and on,
- 1545
- 01:13:28,683 --> 01:13:31,438
- just horrible,
- horrible language,
- 1546
- 01:13:31,438 --> 01:13:34,110
- and none of this
- applies to me whatsoever,
- 1547
- 01:13:34,110 --> 01:13:37,367
- and I just couldn't believe
- what I was reading.
- 1548
- 01:14:06,592 --> 01:14:08,136
- This is going to be
- very important
- 1549
- 01:14:08,136 --> 01:14:09,973
- when the times comes
- to go to court,
- 1550
- 01:14:09,973 --> 01:14:14,483
- because it really shows
- how much...
- 1551
- 01:14:14,483 --> 01:14:17,530
- the‐‐the supervisors
- are under pressure themselves
- 1552
- 01:14:17,530 --> 01:14:18,783
- to pressure us.
- 1553
- 01:14:18,783 --> 01:14:20,495
- You know,
- there's chain of command.
- 1554
- 01:14:20,495 --> 01:14:22,499
- The weight of this
- all starts from the top.
- 1555
- 01:14:24,795 --> 01:14:28,134
- And when I say the top,
- I mean the very top.
- 1556
- 01:14:28,134 --> 01:14:30,055
- Commissioner,
- deputy commissioners,
- 1557
- 01:14:30,055 --> 01:14:32,435
- and even the mayor's office,
- 1558
- 01:14:32,435 --> 01:14:34,815
- and the newly appointed mayor
- 1559
- 01:14:34,815 --> 01:14:36,276
- probably bit off
- more than he can chew
- 1560
- 01:14:36,276 --> 01:14:38,614
- and didn't understand
- just how much
- 1561
- 01:14:38,614 --> 01:14:40,117
- the city's budget
- 1562
- 01:14:40,117 --> 01:14:41,370
- depends on law enforcement
- 1563
- 01:14:41,370 --> 01:14:43,958
- to generate part
- of that revenue
- 1564
- 01:14:43,958 --> 01:14:46,964
- by issuing summonses
- and arrests.
- 1565
- 01:14:46,964 --> 01:14:51,013
- 'Cause the reality is,
- law enforcement
- 1566
- 01:14:51,013 --> 01:14:53,978
- uses black bodies
- to generate revenue.
- 1567
- 01:14:53,978 --> 01:14:55,606
- This is not a profile.
- 1568
- 01:14:55,606 --> 01:14:57,151
- Saying it's the third time
- you're on the block,
- 1569
- 01:14:57,151 --> 01:14:58,654
- 'cause every time I‐‐
- every time I‐‐
- 1570
- 01:14:58,654 --> 01:15:00,031
- Patrolling the block.
- ‐ No, man.
- 1571
- 01:15:00,031 --> 01:15:01,410
- You know
- what I'm saying?
- 1572
- 01:15:01,410 --> 01:15:03,121
- ‐ I'm saying this is
- a targeted block.
- 1573
- 01:15:03,121 --> 01:15:05,460
- Last time you pulled over me,
- "Where the gun at?"
- 1574
- 01:15:05,460 --> 01:15:07,338
- You don't ask someone
- where the gun at, bro.
- 1575
- 01:15:08,758 --> 01:15:10,636
- ‐ You‐‐you talk to me
- with respect,
- 1576
- 01:15:10,636 --> 01:15:12,599
- I‐I respond with respect.
- 1577
- 01:15:12,599 --> 01:15:14,269
- You can't talk to me
- like a dog
- 1578
- 01:15:14,269 --> 01:15:16,105
- and expect me to just
- a‐answer with respect.
- 1579
- 01:15:16,105 --> 01:15:19,069
- Respect goes both ways,
- and everywhere you live,
- 1580
- 01:15:19,069 --> 01:15:20,698
- it works.
- Try it.
- 1581
- 01:15:22,410 --> 01:15:25,040
- Don't just pull up
- one of the black dudes.
- 1582
- 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,796
- Now to an update
- on an I‐Team exclusive:
- 1583
- 01:15:27,796 --> 01:15:29,966
- the interview
- with active NYPD officers
- 1584
- 01:15:29,966 --> 01:15:31,428
- who claim
- that they are pressured
- 1585
- 01:15:31,428 --> 01:15:32,972
- by supervisors
- 1586
- 01:15:32,972 --> 01:15:35,603
- to meet quotas
- for arrests and summonses.
- 1587
- 01:15:35,603 --> 01:15:37,357
- A number
- of additional officers
- 1588
- 01:15:37,357 --> 01:15:38,984
- have actually
- reached out to us.
- 1589
- 01:15:38,984 --> 01:15:40,237
- By the way, the PBA,
- 1590
- 01:15:40,237 --> 01:15:42,115
- the NYPD officers' union,
- 1591
- 01:15:42,115 --> 01:15:43,828
- did a survey recently.
- 1592
- 01:15:43,828 --> 01:15:45,373
- Thousands of members responded,
- 1593
- 01:15:45,373 --> 01:15:47,335
- and 89%
- 1594
- 01:15:47,335 --> 01:15:49,631
- said they believed
- there are still quotas.
- 1595
- 01:15:49,631 --> 01:15:51,760
- The police department
- flatly denies it.
- 1596
- 01:15:58,732 --> 01:16:00,319
- The commissioner insists
- 1597
- 01:16:00,319 --> 01:16:02,991
- his policies are focused
- on the quality of arrests
- 1598
- 01:16:02,991 --> 01:16:05,788
- and summonses,
- not the quantity.
- 1599
- 01:16:05,788 --> 01:16:09,044
- The officers' claims
- elicited this expletive
- 1600
- 01:16:09,044 --> 01:16:10,464
- from the police commissioner.
- 1601
- 01:16:10,464 --> 01:16:11,717
- ‐ Bullshit.
- I said,
- 1602
- 01:16:11,717 --> 01:16:14,013
- "Bullshit" is my response
- to that.
- 1603
- 01:16:14,013 --> 01:16:15,725
- If any of my cops out there
- 1604
- 01:16:15,725 --> 01:16:18,229
- still think we're pushing
- for the summonses, et cetera,
- 1605
- 01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:21,737
- I'm sorry.
- We're pushing to reduce crime.
- 1606
- 01:16:44,658 --> 01:16:46,160
- ‐ The po‐‐the communities
- 1607
- 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:47,914
- are gonna see all those cops,
- right?
- 1608
- 01:16:47,914 --> 01:16:49,292
- Your cops are‐‐start like,
- 1609
- 01:16:49,292 --> 01:16:50,503
- coming out,
- but you're still cops,
- 1610
- 01:16:50,503 --> 01:16:52,089
- and‐‐and just watching a clip,
- 1611
- 01:16:52,089 --> 01:16:53,634
- you're not gonna get
- community support,
- 1612
- 01:16:53,634 --> 01:16:55,388
- 'cause they're gonna be like,
- "Yo, these are‐‐
- 1613
- 01:16:55,388 --> 01:16:56,807
- they're still cops,
- putting me up against a wall."
- 1614
- 01:16:56,807 --> 01:16:58,394
- Right?
- So my question is,
- 1615
- 01:16:58,394 --> 01:17:00,690
- what is‐‐is a plan
- to kind of talk‐‐
- 1616
- 01:17:00,690 --> 01:17:02,360
- if I'm like, "Yo, these cops
- want to meet y'all,"
- 1617
- 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,238
- they're going to be like,
- "I don't even feel safe
- 1618
- 01:17:04,238 --> 01:17:05,491
- - talking to these cops," right?
- - But these are the cops
- 1619
- 01:17:05,491 --> 01:17:06,910
- that are
- standing up against it.
- 1620
- 01:17:06,910 --> 01:17:08,622
- ‐ I completely hear you,
- all right,
- 1621
- 01:17:08,622 --> 01:17:09,958
- but what I'm saying‐‐
- JOHN: How‐‐I don't know how
- 1622
- 01:17:09,958 --> 01:17:11,628
- we convey that message.
- 1623
- 01:17:11,628 --> 01:17:13,089
- Well, that's
- what I'm asking now, right?
- 1624
- 01:17:13,089 --> 01:17:14,676
- Can I say something
- real quick?
- 1625
- 01:17:14,676 --> 01:17:16,178
- It's not really about
- what you guys are saying.
- 1626
- 01:17:16,178 --> 01:17:17,598
- We support what you say.
- ‐ Exactly, exactly.
- 1627
- 01:17:17,598 --> 01:17:19,728
- ‐ It's about painting
- a broader picture
- 1628
- 01:17:19,728 --> 01:17:22,107
- around how this will impact us
- 1629
- 01:17:22,107 --> 01:17:23,986
- and the community
- long‐term,
- 1630
- 01:17:23,986 --> 01:17:26,533
- and so, like,
- how will this lead to
- 1631
- 01:17:26,533 --> 01:17:28,912
- less black bodies
- being violated?
- 1632
- 01:17:28,912 --> 01:17:31,460
- How will this lead
- towards understanding
- 1633
- 01:17:31,460 --> 01:17:33,839
- like, self‐determination
- and black liberation, right?
- 1634
- 01:17:33,839 --> 01:17:35,676
- And so it's‐‐
- what is that message
- 1635
- 01:17:35,676 --> 01:17:37,638
- that is gonna help people
- to understand
- 1636
- 01:17:37,638 --> 01:17:39,934
- that supporting you
- is supporting their cause
- 1637
- 01:17:39,934 --> 01:17:41,396
- and their mission, right?
- 1638
- 01:17:41,396 --> 01:17:43,107
- Absolutely.
- ‐ Know what it is?
- 1639
- 01:17:43,107 --> 01:17:44,778
- People have to get
- to know us
- 1640
- 01:17:44,778 --> 01:17:46,573
- and see how we are,
- 1641
- 01:17:46,573 --> 01:17:48,535
- 'cause you know what?
- Every community we police,
- 1642
- 01:17:48,535 --> 01:17:50,414
- either Brooklyn or South Bronx,
- 1643
- 01:17:50,414 --> 01:17:52,251
- we know how
- to interact with people.
- 1644
- 01:17:52,251 --> 01:17:54,672
- We know how to solve
- people's problems.
- 1645
- 01:17:54,672 --> 01:17:56,760
- ‐ I think what she's saying
- is something different.
- 1646
- 01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:57,970
- Yeah.
- ‐ And I understand
- 1647
- 01:17:57,970 --> 01:17:58,972
- what she's saying.
- 1648
- 01:17:58,972 --> 01:18:00,100
- What she's saying is
- 1649
- 01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:01,561
- you're still a police officer,
- 1650
- 01:18:01,561 --> 01:18:03,816
- and there are people
- in our community‐‐
- 1651
- 01:18:03,816 --> 01:18:06,195
- there are people who I called
- to come to this meeting
- 1652
- 01:18:06,195 --> 01:18:07,949
- that said, "I will not
- be there,
- 1653
- 01:18:07,949 --> 01:18:09,619
- "because I don't work
- with police officers, period.
- 1654
- 01:18:09,619 --> 01:18:10,704
- At all."
- ‐ Right.
- 1655
- 01:18:10,704 --> 01:18:12,040
- ‐ And they didn't come.
- 1656
- 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,209
- And the ones who told me
- they were coming
- 1657
- 01:18:13,209 --> 01:18:14,254
- that are not here‐‐
- 1658
- 01:18:14,254 --> 01:18:15,506
- I know exactly why
- 1659
- 01:18:15,506 --> 01:18:17,134
- they didn't show up, right?
- 1660
- 01:18:17,134 --> 01:18:18,679
- You all there
- may be sitting there, thinking,
- 1661
- 01:18:18,679 --> 01:18:20,683
- "We're here.
- Like, what do you mean, why?"
- 1662
- 01:18:20,683 --> 01:18:24,566
- But there are other elements
- to how you engage the community
- 1663
- 01:18:24,566 --> 01:18:26,862
- that some folks on the face
- won't understand,
- 1664
- 01:18:26,862 --> 01:18:28,824
- and that's why I say
- back to us
- 1665
- 01:18:28,824 --> 01:18:30,118
- as the activists
- 1666
- 01:18:30,118 --> 01:18:31,830
- what do we think
- 1667
- 01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:33,917
- the messaging should be?
- 1668
- 01:18:33,917 --> 01:18:36,965
- We're not here
- to endorse anything
- 1669
- 01:18:36,965 --> 01:18:39,136
- with police departments.
- 1670
- 01:18:39,136 --> 01:18:40,472
- Minister Farrakhan
- said to us,
- 1671
- 01:18:40,472 --> 01:18:42,727
- "There are many good officers,
- 1672
- 01:18:42,727 --> 01:18:45,190
- but too few to stand up."
- 1673
- 01:18:45,190 --> 01:18:46,568
- ‐ Mm‐hm.
- ‐ You have chosen to stand up.
- 1674
- 01:18:46,568 --> 01:18:47,612
- ‐ That's right.
- ‐ Right.
- 1675
- 01:18:47,612 --> 01:18:48,989
- ‐ You have chosen
- 1676
- 01:18:48,989 --> 01:18:51,244
- to put your livelihood
- on the line.
- 1677
- 01:18:51,244 --> 01:18:52,705
- You have chosen
- 1678
- 01:18:52,705 --> 01:18:54,166
- to lose your job
- 1679
- 01:18:54,166 --> 01:18:56,755
- that protects your children,
- my sister,
- 1680
- 01:18:56,755 --> 01:18:58,425
- and to the brothers
- that are here,
- 1681
- 01:18:58,425 --> 01:19:00,512
- that is what has to resonate.
- 1682
- 01:19:00,512 --> 01:19:01,765
- Sister has a valid point.
- 1683
- 01:19:01,765 --> 01:19:03,100
- The youth have to understand,
- 1684
- 01:19:03,100 --> 01:19:05,063
- because they're
- the most besieged,
- 1685
- 01:19:05,063 --> 01:19:07,610
- but all of us are besieged.
- 1686
- 01:19:07,610 --> 01:19:09,906
- That's why we came
- to sit at the table.
- 1687
- 01:19:09,906 --> 01:19:12,745
- ‐ Uh, pr‐‐you all,
- had some kind of strategy.
- 1688
- 01:19:12,745 --> 01:19:14,122
- What would you like for us
- to do,
- 1689
- 01:19:14,122 --> 01:19:15,668
- and how would you like
- for us to do it?
- 1690
- 01:19:15,668 --> 01:19:18,465
- ‐ The public support
- is what lets the city,
- 1691
- 01:19:18,465 --> 01:19:20,803
- the state, and the national
- government know
- 1692
- 01:19:20,803 --> 01:19:22,598
- this is not
- just another lawsuit,
- 1693
- 01:19:22,598 --> 01:19:24,894
- 'cause you're not gonna
- get this again for 100 years.
- 1694
- 01:19:24,894 --> 01:19:26,856
- 12 cops willing
- to step up like this,
- 1695
- 01:19:26,856 --> 01:19:28,443
- put their careers on the line.
- 1696
- 01:19:28,443 --> 01:19:32,868
- So in order for this
- to be taken serious,
- 1697
- 01:19:32,868 --> 01:19:34,247
- we need you.
- 1698
- 01:19:34,247 --> 01:19:35,958
- It's‐‐and‐‐
- and the analogy I use
- 1699
- 01:19:35,958 --> 01:19:37,545
- is a parent
- that spanks their child.
- 1700
- 01:19:37,545 --> 01:19:39,340
- You know, in the supermarket,
- 1701
- 01:19:39,340 --> 01:19:41,303
- you can't spank the child,
- 'cause everyone's watching,
- 1702
- 01:19:41,303 --> 01:19:43,348
- but when you get home,
- the child's gonna get it.
- 1703
- 01:19:43,348 --> 01:19:45,853
- Right now, because of the‐‐
- the "Times" article,
- 1704
- 01:19:45,853 --> 01:19:48,400
- the NBC coverage,
- we're in the supermarket.
- 1705
- 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,531
- The department is waiting
- for this thing to die down
- 1706
- 01:19:51,531 --> 01:19:53,034
- so they can spank us.
- ‐ Yes.
- 1707
- 01:19:53,034 --> 01:19:55,539
- ‐ And the only way
- that doesn't happen
- 1708
- 01:19:55,539 --> 01:19:57,793
- is you guys, all right?
- So‐‐so‐‐
- 1709
- 01:19:57,793 --> 01:19:58,837
- ‐ How are‐‐how are they
- gonna spank you?
- 1710
- 01:19:58,837 --> 01:20:00,424
- What's one technique?
- 1711
- 01:20:00,424 --> 01:20:03,012
- ‐ Well, we've already
- been enduring, uh, uh,
- 1712
- 01:20:03,012 --> 01:20:06,311
- retaliation for not conforming
- to the quota,
- 1713
- 01:20:06,311 --> 01:20:08,230
- but a‐at this point,
- 1714
- 01:20:08,230 --> 01:20:09,734
- they're gonna try to fire us.
- 1715
- 01:20:09,734 --> 01:20:11,613
- They're gonna set us up,
- they're gonna get‐‐
- 1716
- 01:20:11,613 --> 01:20:13,617
- they have tactics
- with Internal Affairs.
- 1717
- 01:20:13,617 --> 01:20:15,203
- They don't have to follow
- the law.
- 1718
- 01:20:15,203 --> 01:20:17,207
- You know? Who‐‐
- ‐ Because they are the law.
- 1719
- 01:20:17,207 --> 01:20:18,460
- ‐ There's no law.
- ‐ They are the law.
- 1720
- 01:20:18,460 --> 01:20:20,297
- ‐ You know, exactly, so
- 1721
- 01:20:20,297 --> 01:20:21,758
- the‐‐at this point, you know,
- 1722
- 01:20:21,758 --> 01:20:23,052
- g‐giving me this post
- 1723
- 01:20:23,052 --> 01:20:24,722
- and killing my evaluation, my‐‐
- 1724
- 01:20:24,722 --> 01:20:26,851
- listen, if I‐‐if I never
- have to be promoted
- 1725
- 01:20:26,851 --> 01:20:28,355
- so my people
- can be treated better,
- 1726
- 01:20:28,355 --> 01:20:29,982
- you can keep the promotion.
- 1727
- 01:20:40,546 --> 01:20:43,760
- What NYPD 12
- all share in common
- 1728
- 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,307
- is that we're all
- on monitoring.
- 1729
- 01:20:46,307 --> 01:20:52,068
- Any police officer
- who... is considered,
- 1730
- 01:20:52,068 --> 01:20:55,492
- um, a threat‐‐
- they keep track of you.
- 1731
- 01:20:55,492 --> 01:20:59,417
- The sergeant who is in charge
- of the monitoring
- 1732
- 01:20:59,417 --> 01:21:00,711
- stopped me one day,
- and he said,
- 1733
- 01:21:00,711 --> 01:21:02,631
- "Hey, I need to talk to you."
- 1734
- 01:21:02,631 --> 01:21:06,054
- So we're about to meet him
- for the first time.
- 1735
- 01:21:06,054 --> 01:21:09,186
- If it's legit,
- we have a lot to gain,
- 1736
- 01:21:09,186 --> 01:21:10,939
- but he‐‐
- 1737
- 01:21:10,939 --> 01:21:14,614
- it's a possibility
- he might try to sabotage it.
- 1738
- 01:21:14,614 --> 01:21:19,164
- You know, when I saw
- all you guys on TV,
- 1739
- 01:21:19,164 --> 01:21:20,459
- I wanted to let you know,
- 1740
- 01:21:20,459 --> 01:21:21,878
- what you guys complain about‐‐
- 1741
- 01:21:21,878 --> 01:21:23,256
- they did it to me.
- 1742
- 01:21:25,469 --> 01:21:27,973
- I‐it disi‐‐
- it affects white officers, too,
- 1743
- 01:21:27,973 --> 01:21:30,019
- but just like anything else
- in the police department,
- 1744
- 01:21:30,019 --> 01:21:32,399
- it gets minorities the worst.
- 1745
- 01:21:32,399 --> 01:21:35,238
- Okay?
- And I'm familiar with
- 1746
- 01:21:35,238 --> 01:21:37,075
- you guys coming
- through performance monitoring,
- 1747
- 01:21:37,075 --> 01:21:38,453
- and I know that program.
- 1748
- 01:21:38,453 --> 01:21:39,872
- I don't know if you guys
- remember my face,
- 1749
- 01:21:39,872 --> 01:21:41,501
- but I used to speak
- to you guys
- 1750
- 01:21:41,501 --> 01:21:42,711
- when you came down
- for performance monitoring.
- 1751
- 01:21:42,711 --> 01:21:44,172
- I was the one.
- 1752
- 01:21:44,172 --> 01:21:45,801
- How many times I sat down
- 1753
- 01:21:45,801 --> 01:21:48,180
- with cops who tell me
- "I'm in performance monitoring
- 1754
- 01:21:48,180 --> 01:21:49,684
- because I'm not
- locking up people"?
- 1755
- 01:21:49,684 --> 01:21:51,521
- I've heard this before,
- and‐‐
- 1756
- 01:21:51,521 --> 01:21:53,148
- but you know anything
- about performance monitoring?
- 1757
- 01:21:53,148 --> 01:21:55,194
- ‐ I don't know nothing about it
- except I'm on it,
- 1758
- 01:21:55,194 --> 01:21:56,281
- so you need to hit me, like,
- 1759
- 01:21:56,281 --> 01:21:58,033
- what the fuck is that like?
- 1760
- 01:21:58,033 --> 01:22:00,539
- Well...
- there's so much to tell you,
- 1761
- 01:22:00,539 --> 01:22:03,127
- okay, about the program,
- but the fact that you guys
- 1762
- 01:22:03,127 --> 01:22:05,716
- are‐‐the fact that you guys
- are on it‐‐
- 1763
- 01:22:05,716 --> 01:22:07,511
- they got you.
- Once you get
- 1764
- 01:22:07,511 --> 01:22:09,557
- in this program,
- they got you.
- 1765
- 01:22:09,557 --> 01:22:11,603
- No matter how well you perform,
- 1766
- 01:22:11,603 --> 01:22:14,609
- it's not going
- to be good enough.
- 1767
- 01:22:14,609 --> 01:22:16,779
- The performance monitoring
- program and evaluation
- 1768
- 01:22:16,779 --> 01:22:20,119
- is supposed to be tools
- to measure performance
- 1769
- 01:22:20,119 --> 01:22:21,664
- to measure, uh, whether a cop
- 1770
- 01:22:21,664 --> 01:22:23,000
- is doing his job or not,
- 1771
- 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,171
- but they're both used
- as weapons
- 1772
- 01:22:25,171 --> 01:22:27,175
- of retaliation, okay?
- 1773
- 01:22:27,175 --> 01:22:29,680
- And weap‐‐and weapons of abuse.
- 1774
- 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,141
- But I‐‐I tell you
- like this, man.
- 1775
- 01:22:31,141 --> 01:22:32,811
- The shit hit the fan,
- 1776
- 01:22:32,811 --> 01:22:34,315
- you're on your fucking own.
- I'm‐‐I'm serious, man.
- 1777
- 01:22:34,315 --> 01:22:35,651
- Then I guess
- my real question is,
- 1778
- 01:22:35,651 --> 01:22:37,070
- how do you‐‐
- DERICK: I wanna say.
- 1779
- 01:22:37,070 --> 01:22:38,531
- I told some of the other guys,
- you know,
- 1780
- 01:22:38,531 --> 01:22:39,992
- "I d‐‐I don't trust
- none of my bosses,
- 1781
- 01:22:39,992 --> 01:22:41,537
- "I don't trust
- the fucking knucklehead
- 1782
- 01:22:41,537 --> 01:22:42,706
- I'm sitting in the car with."
- You g‐‐you gotta
- 1783
- 01:22:42,706 --> 01:22:44,125
- watch your own back.
- 1784
- 01:22:44,125 --> 01:22:45,754
- You‐‐or they‐‐
- because they're gonna
- 1785
- 01:22:45,754 --> 01:22:47,131
- fuck with you, and they're
- gonna fuck with you,
- 1786
- 01:22:47,131 --> 01:22:49,219
- and if you‐‐
- if your shit's on point,
- 1787
- 01:22:49,219 --> 01:22:51,181
- there‐‐there ain't nothing
- they can do.
- 1788
- 01:22:51,181 --> 01:22:52,601
- Yeah, but what
- y'all don't understand, some‐‐
- 1789
- 01:22:52,601 --> 01:22:54,229
- they don't do stuff
- by the book.
- 1790
- 01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:55,816
- - They don't.
- - It's so much‐‐
- 1791
- 01:22:55,816 --> 01:22:57,235
- As long as you do
- what you're supposed‐‐
- 1792
- 01:22:57,235 --> 01:22:58,655
- ‐ But it's‐‐but it's‐‐
- no, but you can't
- 1793
- 01:22:58,655 --> 01:23:00,575
- do stuff‐‐you understand,
- when you do stuff
- 1794
- 01:23:00,575 --> 01:23:02,036
- by the book,
- they don't allow you
- 1795
- 01:23:02,036 --> 01:23:03,623
- to do stuff by the book.
- That's not how‐‐
- 1796
- 01:23:03,623 --> 01:23:06,921
- So they‐‐that can affect you.
- 1797
- 01:23:06,921 --> 01:23:08,508
- They're looking for something,
- they got it.
- 1798
- 01:23:23,621 --> 01:23:25,459
- Are they saying,
- "stop and frisk people"?
- 1799
- 01:23:25,459 --> 01:23:26,836
- Are they literally saying,
- 1800
- 01:23:26,836 --> 01:23:28,381
- "Get five black guys.
- Get five‐‐"
- 1801
- 01:23:28,381 --> 01:23:30,051
- No, I'm‐‐it sounds‐‐
- WOMAN: How literal is it?
- 1802
- 01:23:30,051 --> 01:23:31,596
- - Yeah.
- - That's a good question.
- 1803
- 01:23:31,596 --> 01:23:33,558
- Um, one thing
- that they're good at
- 1804
- 01:23:33,558 --> 01:23:34,977
- in this color‐blind racism‐‐
- 1805
- 01:23:34,977 --> 01:23:36,981
- they get
- the same racial outcome
- 1806
- 01:23:36,981 --> 01:23:38,693
- without ever having
- to mention race,
- 1807
- 01:23:38,693 --> 01:23:40,447
- and what allows this
- is the fact that
- 1808
- 01:23:40,447 --> 01:23:41,949
- because of gentrification,
- 1809
- 01:23:41,949 --> 01:23:43,578
- New York City has enclaves
- 1810
- 01:23:43,578 --> 01:23:45,122
- of‐‐of certain ethnicities
- and nationalities,
- 1811
- 01:23:45,122 --> 01:23:47,336
- so you get to focus
- on only blacks.
- 1812
- 01:23:47,336 --> 01:23:49,965
- You get to say, "Hey,
- we're just responding to crime.
- 1813
- 01:23:49,965 --> 01:23:51,636
- This is a black area."
- 1814
- 01:23:51,636 --> 01:23:53,013
- ‐ Mm.
- ‐ You have to remember,
- 1815
- 01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:54,850
- New York is‐‐is the epicenter
- 1816
- 01:23:54,850 --> 01:23:55,977
- of a lot of these issues,
- 1817
- 01:23:55,977 --> 01:23:58,399
- so broken windows policing, um,
- 1818
- 01:23:58,399 --> 01:24:00,654
- quota policing‐‐
- this starts in New York.
- 1819
- 01:24:00,654 --> 01:24:02,491
- Before you know it,
- you get it in Ferguson,
- 1820
- 01:24:02,491 --> 01:24:03,868
- smaller towns.
- 1821
- 01:24:03,868 --> 01:24:06,206
- As an‐‐another one
- in the 12 said,
- 1822
- 01:24:06,206 --> 01:24:08,253
- "New York City
- is Ferguson on steroids.
- 1823
- 01:24:08,253 --> 01:24:10,047
- This is where it started."
- 1824
- 01:24:14,598 --> 01:24:16,644
- I couldn't sleep.
- I couldn't eat.
- 1825
- 01:24:16,644 --> 01:24:18,648
- I was so stressed out,
- 1826
- 01:24:18,648 --> 01:24:21,069
- and I started crying,
- 1827
- 01:24:21,069 --> 01:24:22,739
- and then the job doctor,
- 1828
- 01:24:22,739 --> 01:24:25,035
- he sent me
- to a psychiatrist.
- 1829
- 01:24:25,035 --> 01:24:28,041
- She asked me if I was,
- like, suicidal,
- 1830
- 01:24:28,041 --> 01:24:31,549
- and I was like,
- "No, I'm just depressed."
- 1831
- 01:24:31,549 --> 01:24:33,845
- You know, I'm having
- childcare issues.
- 1832
- 01:24:33,845 --> 01:24:37,101
- I'm pregnant,
- and the job is punishing me,
- 1833
- 01:24:37,101 --> 01:24:39,440
- and nobody seems to care.
- 1834
- 01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:41,067
- She didn't really
- seem to care, either.
- 1835
- 01:24:48,583 --> 01:24:49,960
- ‐ Can you describe,
- 1836
- 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:51,589
- when you feel
- that chest pressure,
- 1837
- 01:24:51,589 --> 01:24:54,093
- what you were doing?
- 1838
- 01:24:54,093 --> 01:24:55,597
- ‐ I was talking to my boss,
- 1839
- 01:24:55,597 --> 01:24:57,183
- and, uh,
- 1840
- 01:24:57,183 --> 01:24:58,978
- kind of, uh, conversation
- 1841
- 01:24:58,978 --> 01:25:01,651
- went a little bit,
- 1842
- 01:25:01,651 --> 01:25:04,615
- um, stressful.
- 1843
- 01:25:08,581 --> 01:25:11,295
- It's just snowballing
- into me feeling
- 1844
- 01:25:11,295 --> 01:25:13,549
- like the way I felt years ago,
- like, crazy hi‐‐
- 1845
- 01:25:13,549 --> 01:25:16,221
- like, all these emotions going
- through you,
- 1846
- 01:25:16,221 --> 01:25:18,268
- and you have nobody to talk to.
- When you go to‐‐
- 1847
- 01:25:18,268 --> 01:25:19,770
- to the precinct,
- they'll tell you,
- 1848
- 01:25:19,770 --> 01:25:21,607
- "Oh, you can talk
- "to people from POPPA,
- 1849
- 01:25:21,607 --> 01:25:23,528
- and you can go talk
- to the police chaplain,"
- 1850
- 01:25:23,528 --> 01:25:26,242
- and all those guys gonna do‐‐
- they're gonna psych you
- 1851
- 01:25:26,242 --> 01:25:27,369
- and they're gonna take away
- your gun.
- 1852
- 01:25:27,369 --> 01:25:28,746
- They claim
- 1853
- 01:25:28,746 --> 01:25:30,583
- that we have
- all these entities,
- 1854
- 01:25:30,583 --> 01:25:32,671
- that when you have a problem
- with the police department,
- 1855
- 01:25:32,671 --> 01:25:33,965
- you can go speak to,
- 1856
- 01:25:33,965 --> 01:25:35,719
- but you can't speak
- to nobody.
- 1857
- 01:25:47,617 --> 01:25:50,582
- ‐ The captain called
- the medical district
- 1858
- 01:25:50,582 --> 01:25:54,256
- and asked them to order me
- back to work,
- 1859
- 01:25:54,256 --> 01:25:57,053
- and the district doctor
- said to me,
- 1860
- 01:25:57,053 --> 01:25:59,558
- "You're making up
- every excuse
- 1861
- 01:25:59,558 --> 01:26:01,312
- not to go to work."
- 1862
- 01:26:01,312 --> 01:26:04,777
- I didn't know‐‐I was‐‐
- I didn't know what to do.
- 1863
- 01:26:04,777 --> 01:26:08,242
- I said,
- "Sir, this is not a game."
- 1864
- 01:26:08,242 --> 01:26:10,204
- I went into pre‐term labor.
- 1865
- 01:26:10,204 --> 01:26:12,793
- Like, I was having contractions
- at five months pregnant.
- 1866
- 01:26:12,793 --> 01:26:14,755
- That's not okay.
- 1867
- 01:26:14,755 --> 01:26:16,675
- You promoted‐‐
- and his boss,
- 1868
- 01:26:16,675 --> 01:26:20,308
- who murdered two black people
- in 15 months in New York City,
- 1869
- 01:26:20,308 --> 01:26:22,938
- but Edwin Raymond,
- who scored number eight
- 1870
- 01:26:22,938 --> 01:26:24,858
- on the promotional exam,
- 1871
- 01:26:24,858 --> 01:26:27,238
- is not qualified
- to be a sergeant,
- 1872
- 01:26:27,238 --> 01:26:28,866
- because his supervisor says
- 1873
- 01:26:28,866 --> 01:26:31,831
- that his activity
- is not good enough.
- 1874
- 01:26:31,831 --> 01:26:33,835
- This man
- should have been promoted
- 1875
- 01:26:33,835 --> 01:26:35,672
- a long time ago.
- 1876
- 01:26:35,672 --> 01:26:39,638
- So... something has
- to be done.
- 1877
- 01:26:39,638 --> 01:26:41,767
- Mis‐‐Mr. Bratton,
- 1878
- 01:26:41,767 --> 01:26:44,815
- the ball's in your court.
- 1879
- 01:26:44,815 --> 01:26:47,362
- ‐ I want to come back
- to the policing issues
- 1880
- 01:26:47,362 --> 01:26:48,865
- but, you know, just‐‐
- when before,
- 1881
- 01:26:48,865 --> 01:26:50,535
- you told me about prayer,
- 1882
- 01:26:50,535 --> 01:26:53,541
- um‐‐'cause this is probably
- the most stressful
- 1883
- 01:26:53,541 --> 01:26:55,253
- period of your life.
- ‐ Absolutely, absolutely.
- 1884
- 01:26:55,253 --> 01:26:57,799
- So what are you doing?
- What have you added
- 1885
- 01:26:57,799 --> 01:27:01,097
- to be able to deal
- with this ongoing,
- 1886
- 01:27:01,097 --> 01:27:04,730
- seemingly unending,
- super stressful situation?
- 1887
- 01:27:04,730 --> 01:27:06,567
- ‐ Good question.
- Um...
- 1888
- 01:27:06,567 --> 01:27:08,028
- Well, one thing that's, um‐‐
- 1889
- 01:27:08,028 --> 01:27:09,698
- it's‐‐you know,
- I could've never imagined
- 1890
- 01:27:09,698 --> 01:27:11,243
- that this would be something
- that could help me,
- 1891
- 01:27:11,243 --> 01:27:13,623
- but actually, I had
- a really tough childhood,
- 1892
- 01:27:13,623 --> 01:27:16,962
- and, um, sometimes,
- I just think about...
- 1893
- 01:27:16,962 --> 01:27:20,135
- the fact that I made it
- through that type of adversity,
- 1894
- 01:27:20,135 --> 01:27:21,722
- and I‐‐I use that
- to strengthen me.
- 1895
- 01:27:21,722 --> 01:27:24,853
- I also look back at, uh,
- our ancestors, you know?
- 1896
- 01:27:24,853 --> 01:27:27,526
- We‐‐we benefit
- from their sacrifice.
- 1897
- 01:27:27,526 --> 01:27:30,030
- I'm looking at it
- as a‐‐a patchwork quilt,
- 1898
- 01:27:30,030 --> 01:27:32,536
- where every generation
- gets to sew its own piece.
- 1899
- 01:27:32,536 --> 01:27:33,871
- Yeah.
- ‐ And the objective is
- 1900
- 01:27:33,871 --> 01:27:35,750
- to continue to pass the quilt
- 1901
- 01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:37,504
- till the quilt is big enough
- 1902
- 01:27:37,504 --> 01:27:38,881
- to insulate us all
- 1903
- 01:27:38,881 --> 01:27:40,552
- from the cold airs
- of oppression.
- 1904
- 01:27:59,464 --> 01:28:01,009
- First at 5:00 right now,
- 1905
- 01:28:01,009 --> 01:28:02,971
- an NYPD bombshell.
- 1906
- 01:28:02,971 --> 01:28:05,602
- Four of the department's
- most senior chiefs
- 1907
- 01:28:05,602 --> 01:28:07,229
- at the center of a scandal.
- 1908
- 01:28:07,229 --> 01:28:08,608
- And now the police commissioner
- 1909
- 01:28:08,608 --> 01:28:10,820
- is taking action
- as the federal government
- 1910
- 01:28:10,820 --> 01:28:12,239
- investigates corruption.
- 1911
- 01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:13,784
- CBS 2 political reporter
- 1912
- 01:28:13,784 --> 01:28:15,622
- Marcia Kramer
- with the latest on this.
- 1913
- 01:28:15,622 --> 01:28:17,166
- ‐ Today, what we're asking
- 1914
- 01:28:17,166 --> 01:28:19,296
- Mr. de Blasio, the mayor,
- to do
- 1915
- 01:28:19,296 --> 01:28:21,550
- is to form a commission
- to investigate
- 1916
- 01:28:21,550 --> 01:28:23,219
- the pervasive corruption,
- 1917
- 01:28:23,219 --> 01:28:24,931
- official misconduct,
- and bribery
- 1918
- 01:28:24,931 --> 01:28:26,393
- at the executive levels
- 1919
- 01:28:26,393 --> 01:28:27,729
- of the New York City
- Police Department.
- 1920
- 01:28:27,729 --> 01:28:29,441
- But officers
- were complaining
- 1921
- 01:28:29,441 --> 01:28:32,029
- of corruption and quotas.
- 1922
- 01:28:32,029 --> 01:28:34,493
- Commissioner Bratton
- said "That's bull,"
- 1923
- 01:28:34,493 --> 01:28:36,330
- "That's nonsense,"
- 1924
- 01:28:36,330 --> 01:28:38,959
- "Those officers should quit."
- 1925
- 01:28:38,959 --> 01:28:41,882
- Now, the, uh, chiefs,
- 1926
- 01:28:41,882 --> 01:28:43,511
- they'll be investigated
- 1927
- 01:28:43,511 --> 01:28:45,765
- for corruption,
- 1928
- 01:28:45,765 --> 01:28:47,811
- so that tells you right there,
- 1929
- 01:28:47,811 --> 01:28:50,400
- Commissioner Bratton
- should step down.
- 1930
- 01:29:14,448 --> 01:29:15,867
- You're gonna
- share everything?
- 1931
- 01:29:15,867 --> 01:29:17,454
- We're‐‐we're‐‐
- we're right here,
- 1932
- 01:29:17,454 --> 01:29:19,416
- so thanks, officer.
- ‐ So proud of you, man.
- 1933
- 01:29:19,416 --> 01:29:20,877
- How are you?
- ‐ Good.
- 1934
- 01:29:20,877 --> 01:29:22,464
- ‐ Well, I got
- some good news for you.
- 1935
- 01:29:22,464 --> 01:29:24,509
- I found out that there's also
- another video,
- 1936
- 01:29:24,509 --> 01:29:27,348
- and the video doesn't show you.
- 1937
- 01:29:27,348 --> 01:29:29,936
- It shows someone else
- as the shooter,
- 1938
- 01:29:29,936 --> 01:29:31,565
- and I'm in the process
- of getting that.
- 1939
- 01:29:31,565 --> 01:29:33,611
- I also found out
- who the shooter was,
- 1940
- 01:29:33,611 --> 01:29:35,990
- and I'm in the process
- of now meeting him
- 1941
- 01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:38,077
- and getting him on video,
- 1942
- 01:29:38,077 --> 01:29:39,414
- and I'm going to have
- that evidence
- 1943
- 01:29:39,414 --> 01:29:41,376
- very shortly for you.
- 1944
- 01:29:41,376 --> 01:29:44,257
- It's very rare
- I get to say this, Pedro,
- 1945
- 01:29:44,257 --> 01:29:47,012
- but, um,
- 1946
- 01:29:47,012 --> 01:29:50,645
- I'm 100% sure
- we're gonna win this case.
- 1947
- 01:29:50,645 --> 01:29:53,442
- There is no way
- we can lose this case.
- 1948
- 01:29:53,442 --> 01:29:55,111
- I know you're innocent,
- 1949
- 01:29:55,111 --> 01:29:57,826
- and there's nothing
- that's gonna change that.
- 1950
- 01:29:57,826 --> 01:30:02,125
- They're gonna try to make you
- another offer.
- 1951
- 01:30:02,125 --> 01:30:04,046
- They're gonna try
- to offer you
- 1952
- 01:30:04,046 --> 01:30:07,052
- another, uh, deal
- to get out of here.
- 1953
- 01:30:07,052 --> 01:30:08,221
- Will you take that deal?
- 1954
- 01:30:08,221 --> 01:30:09,599
- ‐ No, I will not.
- 1955
- 01:30:09,599 --> 01:30:12,480
- ‐ Why?
- ‐ 'Cause I'm innocent.
- 1956
- 01:30:23,919 --> 01:30:26,132
- If the department
- was questioned
- 1957
- 01:30:26,132 --> 01:30:30,098
- about why is it
- that I wasn't promoted,
- 1958
- 01:30:30,098 --> 01:30:32,729
- they would have no answer.
- There's no legitimate answer,
- 1959
- 01:30:32,729 --> 01:30:34,858
- because it's just corruption.
- 1960
- 01:30:38,490 --> 01:30:41,997
- So ultimately,
- me being out there
- 1961
- 01:30:41,997 --> 01:30:44,084
- and willing to speak
- the truth‐‐
- 1962
- 01:30:44,084 --> 01:30:45,630
- they had no choice
- 1963
- 01:30:45,630 --> 01:30:47,300
- but to promote me.
- 1964
- 01:30:52,769 --> 01:30:54,522
- As a result
- of their success
- 1965
- 01:30:54,522 --> 01:30:56,860
- in competitive
- civil service examinations,
- 1966
- 01:30:56,860 --> 01:30:58,405
- 76 police officers
- 1967
- 01:30:58,405 --> 01:31:01,035
- are being promoted
- to the rank of sergeant.
- 1968
- 01:31:01,035 --> 01:31:02,538
- Will the members being promoted
- to the rank of sergeant
- 1969
- 01:31:02,538 --> 01:31:03,958
- please rise to their seats
- 1970
- 01:31:03,958 --> 01:31:05,043
- for the administration
- of the oath
- 1971
- 01:31:05,043 --> 01:31:06,505
- by Chief Spano.
- 1972
- 01:31:06,505 --> 01:31:09,511
- Attention!
- 1973
- 01:31:11,515 --> 01:31:14,354
- Christopher Knoll?
- 1974
- 01:31:20,198 --> 01:31:21,535
- It's a nightmare
- for them
- 1975
- 01:31:21,535 --> 01:31:23,747
- to me
- to rise through the ranks,
- 1976
- 01:31:23,747 --> 01:31:26,002
- because now I outrank
- 1977
- 01:31:26,002 --> 01:31:27,505
- over 20,000 people.
- 1978
- 01:31:30,928 --> 01:31:34,394
- And knowing how
- the department moves,
- 1979
- 01:31:34,394 --> 01:31:36,273
- I'm sure they were looking
- to release something
- 1980
- 01:31:36,273 --> 01:31:38,109
- to discredit me.
- 1981
- 01:31:45,123 --> 01:31:47,503
- But whatever the consequences,
- 1982
- 01:31:47,503 --> 01:31:49,758
- I am going to do
- whatever I have to do.
- 1983
- 01:31:49,758 --> 01:31:51,303
- Edwin Raymond.
- 1984
- 01:32:05,372 --> 01:32:07,502
- - ‐ What you doing to me?
- - It's okay, it's okay.
- 1985
- 01:32:07,502 --> 01:32:09,422
- It's o‐‐
- ‐ I'm fine.
- 1986
- 01:32:11,175 --> 01:32:13,639
- ‐ Well‐deserved.
- ‐ Thank you.
- 1987
- 01:32:13,639 --> 01:32:15,058
- ‐ I'm jealous.
- 1988
- 01:32:15,058 --> 01:32:17,355
- ‐ Right here.
- ‐ Okay.
- 1989
- 01:32:17,355 --> 01:32:18,774
- I love you, brother.
- 1990
- 01:32:18,774 --> 01:32:20,945
- Aw, man.
- 1991
- 01:32:22,740 --> 01:32:24,869
- This feels great,
- but there's a lot more to do.
- 1992
- 01:32:24,869 --> 01:32:28,167
- We have centuries
- of embedded ideologies,
- 1993
- 01:32:28,167 --> 01:32:30,339
- and then so many other things
- to undo.
- 1994
- 01:32:33,637 --> 01:32:35,140
- Cheers
- from protesters
- 1995
- 01:32:35,140 --> 01:32:36,643
- greeted Police Commissioner
- Bill Bratton
- 1996
- 01:32:36,643 --> 01:32:37,812
- as he walked
- out of city hall
- 1997
- 01:32:37,812 --> 01:32:39,691
- after announcing
- his resignation.
- 1998
- 01:32:39,691 --> 01:32:41,068
- His tenure was marked
- 1999
- 01:32:41,068 --> 01:32:42,905
- by the Eric Garner
- chokehold case
- 2000
- 01:32:42,905 --> 01:32:44,158
- and corruption,
- 2001
- 01:32:44,158 --> 01:32:45,870
- but the mayor insisted
- 2002
- 01:32:45,870 --> 01:32:48,207
- that that was not the reason
- Bratton packed it in.
- 2003
- 01:32:48,207 --> 01:32:50,254
- ‐ 110%,
- 2004
- 01:32:50,254 --> 01:32:51,882
- has nothing to do with this.
- 2005
- 01:32:51,882 --> 01:32:54,429
- I can't breathe!
- I can't breathe!
- 2006
- 01:32:54,429 --> 01:32:56,474
- ‐ I think our lawsuit
- had a lot to do
- 2007
- 01:32:56,474 --> 01:32:59,564
- with this dude resigning.
- A lot to do with it.
- 2008
- 01:32:59,564 --> 01:33:02,403
- ‐ I was railroaded
- for doing what's right,
- 2009
- 01:33:02,403 --> 01:33:05,534
- so to me,
- that shows the insincerity
- 2010
- 01:33:05,534 --> 01:33:07,997
- uh, regarding
- what the department says
- 2011
- 01:33:07,997 --> 01:33:09,208
- and what it does.
- 2012
- 01:33:09,208 --> 01:33:10,628
- ‐ To build upon a foundation
- 2013
- 01:33:10,628 --> 01:33:12,298
- that was begun
- more than 20 years ago
- 2014
- 01:33:12,298 --> 01:33:14,051
- that was the shared vision
- 2015
- 01:33:14,051 --> 01:33:15,930
- when I,
- along with Jack Maple,
- 2016
- 01:33:15,930 --> 01:33:18,059
- John Timoney,
- John Miller,
- 2017
- 01:33:18,059 --> 01:33:19,854
- began to apply
- a new kind of science,
- 2018
- 01:33:19,854 --> 01:33:21,733
- a new kind of rigor,
- to policing,
- 2019
- 01:33:21,733 --> 01:33:24,656
- one that said
- that cops count,
- 2020
- 01:33:24,656 --> 01:33:26,033
- police matter.
- 2021
- 01:33:26,033 --> 01:33:29,039
- ♪ Hey, hey, hey
- goodbye ♪
- 2022
- 01:33:54,757 --> 01:33:57,513
- ‐ This is the email
- 2023
- 01:33:57,513 --> 01:33:59,934
- on case number
- 2024
- 01:33:59,934 --> 01:34:01,771
- 06885
- 2025
- 01:34:01,771 --> 01:34:03,107
- of 2015.
- 2026
- 01:34:06,781 --> 01:34:09,579
- The claims that have to do
- with the quota,
- 2027
- 01:34:09,579 --> 01:34:11,249
- which are
- the most important claims
- 2028
- 01:34:11,249 --> 01:34:14,714
- that are contained
- in the amended complaint,
- 2029
- 01:34:14,714 --> 01:34:16,760
- have been dismissed entirely.
- 2030
- 01:34:18,805 --> 01:34:21,728
- The most important part
- of the case is gone.
- 2031
- 01:34:24,650 --> 01:34:28,032
- I'm not going to lie to you.
- The decision is depressing.
- 2032
- 01:34:28,032 --> 01:34:31,247
- The judge is saying, based on
- how the quota law was written,
- 2033
- 01:34:31,247 --> 01:34:34,629
- the cops cannot sue.
- 2034
- 01:34:34,629 --> 01:34:36,215
- They can only file complaints
- 2035
- 01:34:36,215 --> 01:34:38,720
- directly with the department.
- 2036
- 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,557
- It doesn't matter
- 2037
- 01:34:40,557 --> 01:34:44,064
- whether what the department
- is doing is wrong or not.
- 2038
- 01:34:44,064 --> 01:34:45,818
- The judge hasn't even reached
- 2039
- 01:34:45,818 --> 01:34:48,740
- the merit of the substance
- of the claim.
- 2040
- 01:34:48,740 --> 01:34:51,496
- The judge is just saying,
- simply,
- 2041
- 01:34:51,496 --> 01:34:54,209
- you can't sue for this.
- 2042
- 01:34:54,209 --> 01:34:57,090
- There's no right of action.
- 2043
- 01:34:57,090 --> 01:34:59,219
- Wait, did the judge
- see any evidence
- 2044
- 01:34:59,219 --> 01:35:02,100
- when making
- this determination?
- 2045
- 01:35:02,100 --> 01:35:04,605
- ‐ The judge has not gone
- to the point
- 2046
- 01:35:04,605 --> 01:35:06,150
- where you can see evidence.
- 2047
- 01:35:06,150 --> 01:35:07,862
- We just filed a complaint.
- 2048
- 01:35:07,862 --> 01:35:09,657
- So what about
- the NYPD 12?
- 2049
- 01:35:09,657 --> 01:35:11,703
- Do you think
- this is it for them?
- 2050
- 01:35:11,703 --> 01:35:15,126
- ‐ Oh, no.
- Obviously, I mean, not.
- 2051
- 01:35:15,126 --> 01:35:17,172
- The case is not
- completely dismissed.
- 2052
- 01:35:17,172 --> 01:35:18,550
- We still have a chance
- to move forward
- 2053
- 01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:20,554
- with the 12 plaintiffs,
- 2054
- 01:35:20,554 --> 01:35:23,435
- so the NYPD 12
- 2055
- 01:35:23,435 --> 01:35:25,522
- is still intact,
- 2056
- 01:35:25,522 --> 01:35:27,943
- but we are hanging on
- by a thread.
- 2057
- 01:35:36,252 --> 01:35:38,465
- Basically,
- the judge said
- 2058
- 01:35:38,465 --> 01:35:41,930
- we didn't come up
- with enough evidence to prove
- 2059
- 01:35:41,930 --> 01:35:44,894
- that the way we were being
- retaliated against
- 2060
- 01:35:44,894 --> 01:35:48,276
- was based on quotas
- or is racial.
- 2061
- 01:35:48,276 --> 01:35:50,572
- One of the things‐‐
- they also said that
- 2062
- 01:35:50,572 --> 01:35:52,368
- why should it go
- to the federal court
- 2063
- 01:35:52,368 --> 01:35:54,037
- if the department itself
- 2064
- 01:35:54,037 --> 01:35:56,124
- has internal sources
- 2065
- 01:35:56,124 --> 01:35:59,257
- to remedy our situation?
- 2066
- 01:35:59,257 --> 01:36:02,136
- ‐ I reported to OEO‐‐
- 2067
- 01:36:02,136 --> 01:36:04,642
- Office of Equal Employment
- Management‐‐
- 2068
- 01:36:04,642 --> 01:36:06,938
- I reported to Internal Affairs.
- 2069
- 01:36:06,938 --> 01:36:09,109
- They did nothing about this.
- 2070
- 01:36:09,109 --> 01:36:11,489
- Reported corruption.
- Nothing was done.
- 2071
- 01:36:11,489 --> 01:36:13,660
- The judge knows
- 2072
- 01:36:13,660 --> 01:36:15,037
- that this guy reported
- the corrup‐‐
- 2073
- 01:36:15,037 --> 01:36:16,666
- reported to these agencies,
- 2074
- 01:36:16,666 --> 01:36:18,295
- and she did nothing about it.
- 2075
- 01:36:18,295 --> 01:36:19,797
- So that's l‐leading me
- to believe
- 2076
- 01:36:19,797 --> 01:36:21,301
- there's something else
- going on here.
- 2077
- 01:36:24,682 --> 01:36:27,061
- I'm trying to pass
- an agency
- 2078
- 01:36:27,061 --> 01:36:30,819
- where you can report crime
- 2079
- 01:36:30,819 --> 01:36:33,908
- and not worry
- about retaliation.
- 2080
- 01:36:33,908 --> 01:36:37,165
- ‐ And we have nowhere to go
- to say
- 2081
- 01:36:37,165 --> 01:36:38,585
- Captain McCormack
- 2082
- 01:36:38,585 --> 01:36:40,839
- is forcing me to stop
- black people.
- 2083
- 01:36:40,839 --> 01:36:42,760
- ‐ This agency would stop that.
- 2084
- 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:44,639
- What this is saying is what
- we've been trying to fight for,
- 2085
- 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:45,974
- what Frank Serpico
- is fighting for,
- 2086
- 01:36:45,974 --> 01:36:47,226
- and cops before that.
- 2087
- 01:36:47,226 --> 01:36:49,230
- ‐ Right.
- ‐ But nobody's done it.
- 2088
- 01:36:49,230 --> 01:36:50,859
- You look at all
- of them‐‐
- 2089
- 01:36:50,859 --> 01:36:52,780
- Schoolcraft and Serpico
- and all of them,
- 2090
- 01:36:52,780 --> 01:36:54,408
- every‐‐every time
- they did something,
- 2091
- 01:36:54,408 --> 01:36:56,161
- it got shot down at first,
- 2092
- 01:36:56,161 --> 01:36:58,291
- and they persevered
- and persevered,
- 2093
- 01:36:58,291 --> 01:37:00,545
- and the good thing
- that I know that we have
- 2094
- 01:37:00,545 --> 01:37:02,006
- a good fight.
- 2095
- 01:37:02,006 --> 01:37:05,263
- We will prevail.
- That's‐‐that, I know.
- 2096
- 01:37:05,263 --> 01:37:08,018
- It's just how long,
- is the question, and when.
- 2097
- 01:37:21,254 --> 01:37:23,090
- We all put
- our jobs on the line,
- 2098
- 01:37:23,090 --> 01:37:25,136
- and we put everything
- on the line
- 2099
- 01:37:25,136 --> 01:37:26,931
- to try to expose
- what's going on
- 2100
- 01:37:26,931 --> 01:37:28,768
- within the department,
- 2101
- 01:37:28,768 --> 01:37:31,231
- and it's just disappointing
- 2102
- 01:37:31,231 --> 01:37:33,403
- to know that
- 2103
- 01:37:33,403 --> 01:37:34,780
- everything we were fighting for
- 2104
- 01:37:34,780 --> 01:37:36,617
- is being dismissed.
- 2105
- 01:37:36,617 --> 01:37:38,120
- You know?
- 2106
- 01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:41,836
- But karma's a hell
- of a thing, you know?
- 2107
- 01:37:41,836 --> 01:37:43,798
- You don't treat‐‐
- you don't‐‐
- 2108
- 01:37:43,798 --> 01:37:45,469
- you don't do that
- to someone,
- 2109
- 01:37:45,469 --> 01:37:47,848
- especially someone
- carrying a child.
- 2110
- 01:37:50,060 --> 01:37:52,064
- Felicia,
- I was wondering,
- 2111
- 01:37:52,064 --> 01:37:53,777
- what do you think
- you'll tell this little guy
- 2112
- 01:37:53,777 --> 01:37:55,530
- about this whole experience?
- 2113
- 01:37:59,747 --> 01:38:01,375
- ‐ Think I'll give‐‐
- 2114
- 01:38:01,375 --> 01:38:05,717
- I won't tell him
- anything negative
- 2115
- 01:38:05,717 --> 01:38:07,679
- about this experience.
- 2116
- 01:38:07,679 --> 01:38:09,683
- As far as I'm concerned,
- 2117
- 01:38:09,683 --> 01:38:11,228
- it never happened.
- It's over with.
- 2118
- 01:38:11,228 --> 01:38:13,650
- That's black history.
- 2119
- 01:38:19,245 --> 01:38:20,956
- You know?
- 2120
- 01:38:24,338 --> 01:38:25,549
- Hm.
- 2121
- 01:38:38,073 --> 01:38:39,660
- ‐ I feel like
- I'm gonna faint.
- 2122
- 01:38:52,978 --> 01:38:54,815
- Did he say
- what he wants to do
- 2123
- 01:38:54,815 --> 01:38:56,777
- when he gets out?
- You know?
- 2124
- 01:38:56,777 --> 01:39:01,787
- ‐
- Eat a home‐cooked meal.
- 2125
- 01:39:01,787 --> 01:39:04,083
- He sent to his sister
- to prepare it.
- 2126
- 01:39:04,083 --> 01:39:05,879
- Oh, yeah?
- 2127
- 01:39:05,879 --> 01:39:07,341
- She's the best cook
- in the family?
- 2128
- 01:39:07,341 --> 01:39:08,801
- ‐ No, no, but in that,
- 2129
- 01:39:08,801 --> 01:39:10,597
- she knows how to do
- the salmon
- 2130
- 01:39:10,597 --> 01:39:13,519
- with coconut‐‐
- coconut shrimps.
- 2131
- 01:39:13,519 --> 01:39:16,734
- She knows how
- to do that good, so...
- 2132
- 01:39:16,734 --> 01:39:19,072
- - But her rice is no good.
- - I feel like
- 2133
- 01:39:19,072 --> 01:39:20,659
- I heard some chuckles
- back there.
- 2134
- 01:39:20,659 --> 01:39:24,333
- Yeah.
- Far from the best, but...
- 2135
- 01:39:24,333 --> 01:39:26,002
- ‐ He sent that,
- to prepare that for him.
- 2136
- 01:39:28,131 --> 01:39:30,845
- Won't be the same.
- 2137
- 01:39:53,307 --> 01:39:55,311
- ‐ I love you.
- 2138
- 01:39:55,311 --> 01:39:57,023
- You did it.
- 2139
- 01:40:04,747 --> 01:40:07,961
- All I can say is
- 2140
- 01:40:07,961 --> 01:40:09,631
- my son is out
- 2141
- 01:40:09,631 --> 01:40:11,844
- and...
- 2142
- 01:40:11,844 --> 01:40:14,140
- best moment for a while now.
- 2143
- 01:40:14,140 --> 01:40:17,647
- And you are prepared
- to go to trial with him?
- 2144
- 01:40:17,647 --> 01:40:19,401
- ‐ N‐now we're ready for trial.
- 2145
- 01:40:19,401 --> 01:40:22,449
- ‐ You're gonna see it through?
- ‐ Yes.
- 2146
- 01:40:22,449 --> 01:40:23,951
- ‐ Yay.
- ‐ And we're gonna win.
- 2147
- 01:41:08,291 --> 01:41:10,962
- ‐ Now the department
- says quotas doesn't exist,
- 2148
- 01:41:10,962 --> 01:41:13,008
- but obviously, it does, if‐‐
- 2149
- 01:41:13,008 --> 01:41:15,305
- if supervisors are still
- forcing police officers
- 2150
- 01:41:15,305 --> 01:41:17,141
- to go out
- and bring back numbers.
- 2151
- 01:41:31,670 --> 01:41:33,633
- - ‐ All right, good afternoon.
- - Good afternoon.
- 2152
- 01:41:33,633 --> 01:41:36,137
- ‐ Attention all roll call.
- Calling for orange.
- 2153
- 01:41:36,137 --> 01:41:38,601
- Orange, you're covering base
- till 6:30.
- 2154
- 01:42:05,655 --> 01:42:07,492
- - Two to the right.
- - To the right.
- 2155
- 01:42:28,784 --> 01:42:31,623
- Who's targeted the most?
- 2156
- 01:42:31,623 --> 01:42:33,294
- The minority community.
- 2157
- 01:42:49,368 --> 01:42:51,663
- Just give me a second.
- Let me confirm from him first.
- 2158
- 01:42:56,507 --> 01:42:58,260
- When I‐‐
- when I decided to go public,
- 2159
- 01:42:58,260 --> 01:43:02,685
- I was...
- I was nervous.
- 2160
- 01:43:02,685 --> 01:43:05,525
- But, um, I feel what I'm doing
- 2161
- 01:43:05,525 --> 01:43:07,320
- is‐‐is necessary.
- 2162
- 01:43:09,616 --> 01:43:11,912
- You know, I‐‐
- I believe in the struggle,
- 2163
- 01:43:11,912 --> 01:43:15,711
- and with struggle,
- comes change.
- 2164
- 01:43:46,648 --> 01:43:48,234
- ‐ Come on, Pedro.
- Come on.
- 2165
- 01:43:48,234 --> 01:43:51,240
- Come on.
- 2166
- 01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,370
- Come on, this way.
- Left.
- 2167
- 01:43:53,370 --> 01:43:56,835
- Come on.
- 2168
- 01:43:56,835 --> 01:43:58,297
- ‐ Being spied on, I bet.
- 2169
- 01:43:58,297 --> 01:44:00,008
- Pedro, over there.
- 2170
- 01:44:00,008 --> 01:44:01,720
- Are you all right?
- You okay?
- 2171
- 01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:04,684
- ‐ Yeah.
- 2172
- 01:44:06,563 --> 01:44:08,317
- Hey, man.
- 2173
- 01:44:10,028 --> 01:44:12,700
- I'm calming down
- my heartbeat.
- 2174
- 01:44:27,438 --> 01:44:29,108
- All right,
- number ten, number ten,
- 2175
- 01:44:29,108 --> 01:44:31,405
- number ten, which is...
- account number ten,
- 2176
- 01:44:31,405 --> 01:44:34,244
- Pedro Hernandez.
- 2177
- 01:44:34,244 --> 01:44:35,871
- I am calling, uh, ten,
- 2178
- 01:44:35,871 --> 01:44:39,211
- and I will call seven
- immediately thereafter.
- 2179
- 01:44:39,211 --> 01:44:41,341
- Um... seven.
- 2180
- 01:44:41,341 --> 01:44:43,177
- At the arraignment,
- you're welcome to make
- 2181
- 01:44:43,177 --> 01:44:46,351
- your application as well
- if you want to do anything.
- 2182
- 01:44:46,351 --> 01:44:49,106
- Counselor, if you please?
- 2183
- 01:44:49,106 --> 01:44:50,526
- ‐ Uh, yes, on behalf
- of my client.
- 2184
- 01:44:50,526 --> 01:44:52,322
- Alex Spiro.
- 2185
- 01:44:52,322 --> 01:44:54,618
- Office
- of the district attorney,
- 2186
- 01:44:54,618 --> 01:44:56,120
- Darcel D. Clark,
- 2187
- 01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:57,582
- uh, deputy counsel,
- 2188
- 01:44:57,582 --> 01:44:59,586
- Julian Bond O'Connor
- for the people.
- 2189
- 01:44:59,586 --> 01:45:01,264
- - Good af‐‐ good morning, judge.
- - Good morning, sir.
- 2190
- 01:45:06,067 --> 01:45:07,769
- ‐ Yes, judge.
- Um...
- 2191
- 01:45:07,769 --> 01:45:10,650
- The people have conducted
- 2192
- 01:45:10,650 --> 01:45:12,194
- an investigation,
- 2193
- 01:45:12,194 --> 01:45:14,824
- an extensive investigation,
- of this case,
- 2194
- 01:45:14,824 --> 01:45:16,745
- notwithstanding
- 2195
- 01:45:16,745 --> 01:45:18,164
- uh, witness accounts
- 2196
- 01:45:18,164 --> 01:45:19,166
- in this case
- 2197
- 01:45:19,166 --> 01:45:20,544
- have proven to be
- 2198
- 01:45:20,544 --> 01:45:23,801
- inconsistent and contradictory.
- 2199
- 01:45:23,801 --> 01:45:25,721
- Therefore, at this time,
- 2200
- 01:45:25,721 --> 01:45:28,435
- the people move
- to dismiss the indictment
- 2201
- 01:45:28,435 --> 01:45:30,356
- against Pedro Hernandez
- 2202
- 01:45:30,356 --> 01:45:34,698
- in indictment 2105 of 2016.
- 2203
- 01:45:45,344 --> 01:45:47,055
- You all right?
- 2204
- 01:45:47,055 --> 01:45:48,392
- Look at him.
- 2205
- 01:45:54,194 --> 01:45:55,990
- Mr. Hernandez,
- your thoughts on today?
- 2206
- 01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:57,535
- ‐ I want to thank
- private investigator
- 2207
- 01:45:57,535 --> 01:45:58,746
- Manuel Gomez,
- 2208
- 01:45:58,746 --> 01:45:59,748
- thanks to my family,
- 2209
- 01:45:59,748 --> 01:46:01,418
- thanks to RFK,
- 2210
- 01:46:01,418 --> 01:46:02,962
- thank everybody
- who was by my side
- 2211
- 01:46:02,962 --> 01:46:04,340
- supported me through the way
- 2212
- 01:46:04,340 --> 01:46:05,926
- and helped me get
- this case dismissed.
- 2213
- 01:46:05,926 --> 01:46:09,350
- Did you ever
- have second thoughts?
- 2214
- 01:46:09,350 --> 01:46:11,521
- What were your thoughts
- coming into this?
- 2215
- 01:46:11,521 --> 01:46:13,317
- Well, my thoughts
- were just‐‐
- 2216
- 01:46:13,317 --> 01:46:15,571
- "Have faith.
- Faith moves mountains."
- 2217
- 01:46:15,571 --> 01:46:17,867
- and I'm just...
- "keep going."
- 2218
- 01:46:17,867 --> 01:46:19,621
- But what about
- the college scholarship?
- 2219
- 01:46:19,621 --> 01:46:20,956
- That's the big thing.
- 2220
- 01:46:20,956 --> 01:46:22,209
- ‐ Yeah, my
- college scholarship‐‐
- 2221
- 01:46:22,209 --> 01:46:24,213
- I'm continuing on with that
- 2222
- 01:46:24,213 --> 01:46:25,424
- and I'm gonna be going on
- to college
- 2223
- 01:46:25,424 --> 01:46:28,347
- to start a new life.
- 2224
- 01:46:28,347 --> 01:46:30,267
- I'm gonna go have
- a well‐deserved
- 2225
- 01:46:30,267 --> 01:46:31,436
- cup of coffee
- 2226
- 01:46:31,436 --> 01:46:33,774
- and, uh,
- just sit back and...
- 2227
- 01:46:33,774 --> 01:46:36,111
- enjoy the, uh, moment of bliss.
- 2228
- 01:46:36,111 --> 01:46:37,532
- Are you gonna‐‐
- are you gonna go with Jessica
- 2229
- 01:46:37,532 --> 01:46:38,909
- and the family, or...
- 2230
- 01:46:38,909 --> 01:46:40,496
- ‐ Uh, I gotta fight
- another case,
- 2231
- 01:46:40,496 --> 01:46:41,623
- and then I'll see.
- 2232
- 01:46:41,623 --> 01:46:42,792
- We'll hook up with the family
- 2233
- 01:46:42,792 --> 01:46:44,963
- later on.
- Why, thank you.
- 2234
- 01:47:23,122 --> 01:47:25,669
- I always knew
- something was coming,
- 2235
- 01:47:25,669 --> 01:47:31,013
- and now something
- is finally here.
- 2236
- 01:47:31,013 --> 01:47:34,019
- I have to deal with slander.
- 2237
- 01:47:36,983 --> 01:47:38,737
- Let me show you something.
- 2238
- 01:47:48,382 --> 01:47:50,552
- So they're saying
- you let a suspect go
- 2239
- 01:47:50,552 --> 01:47:52,473
- just 'cause he's black?
- 2240
- 01:47:52,473 --> 01:47:55,103
- ‐ Yeah, I'm being accused
- of letting someone slide
- 2241
- 01:47:55,103 --> 01:47:56,898
- simply because he's black.
- 2242
- 01:47:59,404 --> 01:48:00,948
- And the irony is,
- 2243
- 01:48:00,948 --> 01:48:03,745
- you know, this‐‐
- this recent attempt at slander
- 2244
- 01:48:03,745 --> 01:48:07,503
- is basically trying
- to deem me as the racist.
- 2245
- 01:48:11,218 --> 01:48:13,724
- The NYPD 12 has
- 2246
- 01:48:13,724 --> 01:48:16,896
- made themselves
- more vulnerable to...
- 2247
- 01:48:16,896 --> 01:48:19,151
- to all types of dangers,
- 2248
- 01:48:19,151 --> 01:48:22,408
- but at the same time,
- 2249
- 01:48:22,408 --> 01:48:23,910
- has brought light to an issue
- 2250
- 01:48:23,910 --> 01:48:26,583
- that we can no longer afford
- 2251
- 01:48:26,583 --> 01:48:28,628
- to not acknowledge.
- 2252
- 01:48:34,222 --> 01:48:35,601
- We're at a time where
- 2253
- 01:48:35,601 --> 01:48:37,772
- there's just no room
- for anonymity.
- 2254
- 01:48:37,772 --> 01:48:42,448
- There's no room for silence.
- We're way beyond that.
- 2255
- 01:48:42,448 --> 01:48:45,996
- You know, the days when
- an officer sits in a silhouette
- 2256
- 01:48:45,996 --> 01:48:48,251
- with a disguised voice‐‐
- those days are gone.
- 2257
- 01:48:48,251 --> 01:48:49,921
- You know?
- 2258
- 01:48:53,135 --> 01:48:55,474
- This is the time where you have
- to be able to show your face
- 2259
- 01:48:55,474 --> 01:48:57,394
- and you have to be able
- to speak the truth.
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