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  1. ProfFarnsworth 14:05:24
  2. https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/62335633_2401313806566881_8068661115728429056_n.png?_n...
  3. GlaistigUaine 14:08:37
  4. It's so wrong it's not even wrong.
  5. CharmlessMan 14:08:40
  6. but people can still be proud to be heterosexual right, if they want to? that's no different to being proud to be homosexual is it
  7. dolphino 14:10:25
  8. Nice point, ProfFarnsworth
  9. CharmlessMan 14:10:35
  10. it's just being proud of whatever sexual preference you happen to have and embracing it right
  11. dolphino 14:10:41
  12. No.
  13. CharmlessMan 14:10:58
  14. so they should be ashamed of themselves for not being homosexual?
  15. or just indifferent :)
  16. dolphino 14:11:18
  17. The gay pride movement about a historical resistance by individuals against a system of tyranny that discriminated against them and killed them.
  18. As a manifestation of that resistance, the gay pride movement pushed the counter-narrative that it is okay and beautiful to be gay.
  19. There's no corresponding phenomenon for straight people.
  20. CharmlessMan 14:11:48
  21. but it's okay to not be gay too
  22. dolphino 14:11:56
  23. That doesn't follow.
  24. That is a very strange response.
  25. GlaistigUaine 14:12:05
  26. dolphino: Not to forget, Fabulous.
  27. dolphino 14:12:16
  28. CharmlessMan: Say we live in a community with my wife and your wife.
  29. My wife is unjustly insulted everyday for 14 years.
  30. CharmlessMan 14:12:33
  31. it's no big deal to me, i don't just people on their sexuality or how proud they happen to be of it
  32. just=judge
  33. dolphino 14:12:43
  34. To counter that, I start saying "My wife is so beautiful!"
  35. That has nothing to say about your wife.
  36. And if you felt the need to say, "But my wife is pretty too", that would be a sign of emotional imbalance.
  37. This is about your wife. It isn't about straight people.
  38. There's no views expressed on those topics.
  39. CharmlessMan 14:13:29
  40. perhaps it would, but humans are emotional beings - there's not always anything particular rational about our emotions
  41. dolphino 14:13:42
  42. And people who react in that way seem to live in this zero-sum world in which gays being less terrorized means straight people are not okay.
  43. CharmlessMan 14:13:43
  44. you can't rationalise every human emotion
  45. dolphino 14:13:58
  46. CharmlessMan: We teach our children how to socialize their emotions.
  47. CharmlessMan 14:13:59
  48. and who is perfectly emotionally balanced anyway?
  49. everyone has issues one way or another
  50. dolphino 14:14:11
  51. What you described is addressed in childhood socialization.
  52. Example.
  53. ⓘ BS_Lewis sets +m on #debates
  54. dolphino 14:14:26
  55. You have a son, Timmy, and he has a friend Johnny.
  56. Johnny has cancer and is dying in two months. So, people organize a party where he gets to pretend to be Batman.
  57. Everybody celebrates Johnny and his Batmanness.
  58. Your son comes up to you and say, "I'm wanna be batman, too! It's not fair!"
  59. How would you respond to that?
  60. CharmlessMan 14:15:17
  61. well he has a point
  62. dolphino 14:15:25
  63. Tell me what you'd say to Timmy.
  64. It will be helpful for me to understand your point of view.
  65. CharmlessMan 14:15:43
  66. you can't expect a young kid to understand the full ramifications of terminal cancer
  67. dolphino 14:16:02
  68. You're talking to Timmy, not me.
  69. CharmlessMan 14:16:11
  70. i'd probably say you can be batman when Johnny's in heaven
  71. dolphino 14:16:17
  72. Okay.
  73. Here's what I'd do.
  74. I wouldn't expect a young kid to understand the full ramifications of terminal cancer.
  75. CharmlessMan 14:16:43
  76. "it might be you who has cancer next week"
  77. dolphino 14:16:47
  78. So, I'd take Timmy aside and say, "Come here, buddy."
  79. CharmlessMan 14:17:06
  80. oh is this lania?
  81. dolphino 14:17:06
  82. "I know it bothers you right now that you're not Batman and Johnny is, but do you know why that is?
  83. "Johnny is dying in a couple of months, Timmy. He's never going to be Batman in the future or go to the movies or visit Yellowstone."
  84. CharmlessMan 14:17:31
  85. you should have told him before the party
  86. dolphino 14:17:35
  87. "Isn't it very sad?"
  88. *Timmy nods, wiping a tear*
  89. CharmlessMan 14:17:42
  90. a bit late now he's having a trantrum because he can't be batman
  91. why not just let all the kids dress as batman?
  92. johnny will still have a good time
  93. dolphino 14:18:03
  94. "All of us are very sad that Johnny has to die at such a young age and we want to show him in his last days how special he is to us and how much we love him."
  95. "Do you love Johnny, Timmy?"
  96. *Timmy nods*
  97. "Let's go out there and show him about badass a Batman he is!"
  98. That's how I'd socialize the irrational emotion of my 8-year old child in this regard, CharmlessMan.
  99. CharmlessMan 14:18:50
  100. well that's great dolphino
  101. dolphino 14:18:57
  102. Now, this same emotion when you say things like "It's okay to be straight" is just as irrational.
  103. CharmlessMan 14:18:57
  104. that must make you the perfect parent, congratulations
  105. dolphino 14:19:01
  106. And it needs to be socialized out of you.
  107. CharmlessMan 14:19:03
  108. but it is okay though
  109. i'm just saying
  110. dolphino 14:19:06
  111. Which I'm doing by this interaction.
  112. Oh, honey, nobody cares what you think about straights, though.
  113. This is Johnny's day.
  114. Banquo 14:19:44
  115. k
  116. dolphino 14:20:24
  117. If my 8-year old child couldn't get what gay pride was about and insisted he had a lot to be proud about, I'd be concerned.
  118. CharmlessMan 14:20:27
  119. well let's hope johnny's cancer doesn't turn out to be terminal after all, and the doctors misdiagnosed his tumour
  120. dolphino 14:20:39
  121. If I couldn't reach my 8-year old over many teaching sessions, I'd feel he had a developmental disorder.
  122. How old are you, CharmlessMan?
  123. CharmlessMan 14:20:56
  124. he doesn't take after his dad then?
  125. dolphino 14:21:06
  126. CharmlessMan: If Johnny doesn't die, that's easy.
  127. Dreams2X 14:21:15
  128. or you could say... "knock it off, Timmy... or Daddy will lock you in the closet again...."
  129. dolphino 14:21:21
  130. Johnny surprises Timmy with a Batman costume of his own and says, "You won't get me!"
  131. And then they run around the house, playing.
  132. So, when the gays aren't discriminated anymore, anywhere, and then a buffer period goes by so they can feel secure in that new reality, we can move on.
  133. I think that shouldn't take more than another century or two.
  134. CharmlessMan 14:22:31
  135. well i'm not discriminating against gays
  136. dolphino 14:22:36
  137. This isn't about you.
  138. This is about Johnny.
  139. pela 14:22:44
  140. [ Why Vegetarians Are More Intelligent than Meat Eaters | Psychology Today Canada ]
  141. CharmlessMan 14:22:46
  142. johnny isn't gay though
  143. he had cancer
  144. dolphino 14:23:01
  145. CharmlessMan: I ended my engagement with you.
  146. "Hello, is this Dr. Smith. Yes, this is about Timmy. I think he's retarded."
  147. AgentDaleCooper 14:23:38
  148. Oh, took 2 days or so for the magic words...
  149. dolphino 14:23:39
  150. "You'll be over immediately? Thank God."
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