[23:30] Amy Summers: Um, so hi. I'd really like to talk to you.
[23:31] Lulu LaCosta: Hello, and I've heard.
[23:31] Amy Summers: I'm sorry, I've felt really terrible the past couple of days and I really wanted to talk to you but it's been kind of hard.
[23:31] Lulu LaCosta: mhmm
[23:32] Amy Summers: Okay, so, I'd really like to clear things up with you because I'm upset that I made someone so cool mad in the first place.
[23:32] Lulu LaCosta: Okay, and what do you mean when you say clear things up?
[23:33] Amy Summers: Alright, I assume I've done something really wrong to offend you because you blocked me like that. I can only really assume like, 3 things right now: you think I'm a bitch, you think I'm racist, or I don't know I just screwed up somewhere.
[23:34] Amy Summers: And it hurts to know that I've made someone mad like that when I don't even know what I did or what I can do to fix it.
[23:34] Lulu LaCosta: Um! For me it's mainly two things: I came into chat one day and saw Amy using AAVE which I grew up with, since I was raised on the east coast, and the whole joke seemed to be that she was using words like that
[23:35] Lulu LaCosta: Then another time I believe you said something in chat about how you only wanted 'real' men, and as a trans person, it made me roll my eyes but I left it alone and just decided it'd be easier to not deal with it
[23:35] Amy Summers: Okay! Okay, let me explain myself because oh my gosh
[23:36] Amy Summers: First of all, can you explain what AAVE means to me? I live on the far eastern coast of Canada and I've never heard this term.
[23:36] Amy Summers: I'm sorry I'm ignorant on that matter.
[23:37] Lulu LaCosta: African-American vernacular english
[23:37] Amy Summers: OKAY.
[23:37] Amy Summers: Okay, so, let me explain that.
[23:45] Amy Summers: Amy's not designed to be a caricature of African-American culture. She's not intended to be some kind of Jay Naylor-esque cipher or coding for animal=race. Her vernacular is a mish-mash of Staten Island/New Yorker accent, Deep South drawl (y'all, good'un, etc), Twitter memes, Cockney British accent, and a bit of my own Canadian idioms. She's not a joke character. I know this is a lot of text but please let me explain myself. When I got Lop to do this new version of me, I wanted to have a version of myself that seemed really badass and cool and didn't put up with anything, which reflects the whole grinny thing I got, and when I was trying to find inspiration for it I always drew back to growing up to see these bad girls who lived on the streets who made it in a tough world, and it was so cool and inspiring to see like these women of different races rising up over that stuff. I really liked Jenny from the Block for example. So I thought it would be cool to have a rabbit girl like that, but since I'm from Far Eastern Canada I have no idea analogue to that kind of inner-city setting so all I had was that Hollywood/MTV depiction of it.

I will admit that I go very, very hard on these mish-mash verbiages in my F-list profile, because it was the first thing I wrote for her and I was envisioning her as a more "tough" character, but as time went on I almost immediately just fell back to being me but letting myself do the kind of slang and drawl that I do with friends and family in real life. I can definitely understand why 'hoodbitch' and 'thot' might push someone off, but I had no idea that these could have been racist terms because all I have to go on is the internet and, in hindsight, I could have called Amy a 'Bronx Bunny' or a 'Barrio Bunny' and got the same effect. I just wanted Amy to have that 'I'm a tough girl who won't be pushed around by alpha males' image and, until now, no one's actually brought up any kind of concerns that it might be construed as racist. To be honest though, I was starting to get the feeling something was wrong in recent months when I kept getting a lot of African-American character messages asking for RP and didn't put two and two together at the time.
[23:46] Amy Summers: I never considered that someone might see it as offensive because I don't have the kind of environment that would suggest it is, and if you were offended by that then I'm deeply sorry and I'll happily go back and rewrite some things.
[23:49] Lulu LaCosta: Um! A few things. It felt like you were telling me that if I was offended you were sorry, but not that you were sorry for being offensive. Secondly, while you may have grown up to idolize the strength of women like that, women like that have had to deal with people hating almost every aspect of them - then turning around and trying to steal the things they hate on women like that, IE, AAVE, hairstyles, music, culture, etc. Hollywood & MTV historically have been disrespectful to women of color and are just finally starting to get their stuff together, however, they've benefitted from taking the things they hate about women of color and putting it on someone who isn't a women of color.
[23:51] Lulu LaCosta: Like, I am from the 'ghetto', and was raised with 'hood bitches', but the entire joke wasn't just my upbringing. I could make a character who seemed like someone from back where I was from, and tbh, I think a character like that would hate it if someone thought that they used thot was funny, instead of the context in which thot appeared being funny, because they recognize that they're being undermined and not taken seriously for their culture.

It seems like you created this character but from what I've seen, I haven't seen an ability to play out this character with respect or understanding of cultural significance. It's like you're visiting in someone else's house and want to raid the fridge without buying groceries
[00:01] Amy Summers: I'm not saying that I'm sorry if you found it offensive, I'm saying that deeply sorry that you found this offensive. I've played with Amy for about a year and a half with this exact persona with zero complaints and never had any inkling that it could be construed as offensive because, as I mentioned, I don't have the life experience that you do and based the entirety of this character off the image of the "girl from the mean streets". It doesn't have an explicit real world ethnicity tied to it and I'm not trying to play Amy as one of them.

One of my kinks does refer to Amy as a 'hood bitch' because, at the time, that seemed to be the easiest way to write down and fit in an ad in Sex Driven LFRP to get attention, and I'm realizing that this was wrong to do when there were many other possible definitions I could use that are less offensive. As I mentioned, I do have quite an ignorance of the struggles of POCs in general because of the general white-washed environment I live in, and I apologize for that ignorance being a symbol of racism. My bandying of the term 'thot' came from the funny side of Twitter, like the various 'BEGONE THOT' memes, and since Amy is a very memetic humor-driven character it only seemed fitting. I can't apologize enough for offending someone who seems so cool.
[00:01] Amy Summers: Ugh sorry I'm tripping over my words because I'm so upset.
[00:02] Amy Summers: I'm sorry that I offended you.
[00:02] Lulu LaCosta: Thank you.
[00:02] Lulu LaCosta: Apology accepted
[00:03] Amy Summers: And I can explain the second point
[00:03] Lulu LaCosta: I'd feel comfortable keeping you off my ignore list if Amy was like
[00:03] Lulu LaCosta: A bit more authentic in representing what you do know?
[00:03] Lulu LaCosta: because being the girl from the mean streets as a character when you don't know that is super difficult to do with respect
[00:04] Amy Summers: It's just that I wanted that tough city chick appearance and the closest I have for knowledge of it in person is Toronto, Canada from the few years I spent living in that area.
[00:04] Lulu LaCosta: even if she doesn't have a real world ethnicity, from what i've seen out of her, she's tied to a real world culture
[00:04] Amy Summers: Okay, can you give me a few examples.
[00:04] Amy Summers: Because a lot of what I have written down is a mish-mash of stuff I see on Twitter and how I see people talking
[00:04] Lulu LaCosta: I mean for the things you might know -
[00:05] Lulu LaCosta: a character from some suburban neighborhood who moved to the big city, where they came with a great personality and all smiles. They were misused and mistreated by everyone because of it, they were constantly taken advantage of, and eventually, they decided to toss their upbringing to the side because it won't cut it in their career/line of work/etc
[00:06] Amy Summers: Oh my gosh. I have a big sister who was just like that.
[00:06] Lulu LaCosta: There's plenty of prompts for what a no-nonsense character in a big city can look like
[00:07] Amy Summers: Alright Lulu
[00:08] Amy Summers: I assume that I should probably take mentions of things like 'hood bitch' and 'thot' and 'ghetto' out of my profile?
[00:08] Lulu LaCosta: you can do what  you want, id prefer that
[00:09] Amy Summers: Well, I mean you've laid it out so well.
[00:09] Amy Summers: I'm just using terms like that willy-nilly because I just want Amy to have that "tough ghetto" look and have that same kind of sex appeal but there's no real thought or respect paid to it in how Amy's built as a character.
[00:10] Amy Summers: That same kind of sex appeal you see on TV and such, is what I mean.
[00:10] Lulu LaCosta: depending on where you watch it, TV may also do that without respcet
[00:10] Lulu LaCosta: respect* >_>
[00:10] Amy Summers: You've given me a lot to think about with this subject, because until recently I was just happy calling Amy whatever.
[00:11] Amy Summers: I can move to your second point for a bit as well.
[00:11] Lulu LaCosta: ok
[00:14] Amy Summers: Alright. I didn't mean to offend you for any kind of slight you might have seen over my declaring I like 'real men'. I never intended it as some kind of transphobic gesture, and at the time I believe I was talking about Lopland. Let me explain, he's been my best friend for about five years now and he means the world to me. That's also why he's been the go-between between us these past couple days. And when I say stuff like 'real man' I'm intending for it to be like a Disney-esque cartoon gesture like fawning over him with doe eyes. You probably noticed early on when I joined that I was really clingy with him, and to be frank that's an entirely different subject that he and I worked through, but I was just trying to get his attention and I had no idea that someone could construe it as offensive to trans people.
[00:15] Amy Summers: You're a very cool person Lulu, like I love your boisterous personality and your gung-ho attitude, and I like watching you play your games. And I never wanted to offend you.
[00:16] Amy Summers: And I suddenly got very scared and shaken up when you finally offered your first DM, and Lopland was joining in, and I wanted to play too because we like playing games together, and suddenly you're ignoring me and I try to get your attention and I'm blocked and oh gosh I don't know what I did wrong or how to fix it.
[00:18] Amy Summers: I'm sorry that I offended you by saying that. I don't get to spend a lot of time around actual transgendered people, rather than people who are simply acting the part on F-List, and never considered how it might be perceived by someone actually of the trans community.
[00:19] Lulu LaCosta: drop the -ed :P transgender people
[00:19] Amy Summers: Okay!
[00:19] Amy Summers: Sorry, I'm shaking here and I'm nerovous
[00:20] Lulu LaCosta: Mmm. I'd say to remember that your intent can be one thing and your impact can be a toooooooooooooooooootally different thing. I never thought you were intentionally being harmful.
[00:20] Amy Summers: I'm very sorry about that. I try to be more open minded and inclusive but it just happens.
[00:21] Amy Summers: That's why I've been trying so hard to talk to you without getting invasive to your privacy so I could explain myself.
[00:21] Amy Summers: I mean, I could have created an alt just to talk to you but that might come off as very intrusive.
[00:21] Amy Summers: I wanted to meet with you to have an open dialogue rather than ambusing you
[00:22] Lulu LaCosta: yeah I would've immediately blocked it. lol.
[00:22] Amy Summers: I figured as much.
[00:23] Amy Summers: It was really frustrating at first, because I didn't know what to do, but I didn't want to drag this out into the open air like some of the recent events, and I truly appreciate you letting me explain my piece.
[00:23] Lulu LaCosta: no problem, you're welcome.
[00:23] Amy Summers: So can we possibly put this behind us? I want to try really hard to fix this.
[00:26] Lulu LaCosta: Um! Tbh, for me, it's a trust thing where I have to feel like i can trust someone not to make microaggressions to be comfortable with them but
[00:26] Lulu LaCosta: at least now I can see your posts
[00:26] Lulu LaCosta: So I'll be watching, and I'm sure that if you do what you say, we'll warm up in no time.
[00:27] Amy Summers: Lulu, it might be asking too much but could you maybe give me a swat or some such thing if I do go too far?
[00:27] Lulu LaCosta: Err
[00:27] Lulu LaCosta: at this time, I wouldn't be comfortable with that
[00:27] Amy Summers: well
[00:27] Amy Summers: i mean
[00:27] Amy Summers: not a /me swat
[00:27] Lulu LaCosta: right
[00:28] Amy Summers: Like 'hey that wasn't very cool you can't say that'
[00:28] Lulu LaCosta: right i understood that
[00:28] Amy Summers: Sorry I'm just so nervous
[00:28] Lulu LaCosta: but that'd be me accepting doing emotional labor of reaching out, which can be exhausting having those conversations when I'm just trying to do lewds and get off
[00:28] Amy Summers: Haha! That's true
[00:29] Amy Summers: Lopland's already done and walked a thousand miles for me in terms of that kind of support.
[00:30] Amy Summers: Okay, I understand how that is greedy of me to ask.
[00:30] Lulu LaCosta: Heh. At this time, it'd make me uncomfortable saying yes to that, thank you for understanding
[00:31] Amy Summers: You're welcome. I'm just trying my hardest to reconcile things with you and I'm struggling with my lack of ignorance on a lot of these subjects.
[00:31] Amy Summers: Ugh I mean my own lack of knowledge
[00:32] Lulu LaCosta: um!
[00:32] Lulu LaCosta: One resource I know that people like
[00:32] Lulu LaCosta: when they aren't good with subjects like that is
[00:32] Lulu LaCosta: uhhh its called everyday feminism .com or something like that
[00:32] Lulu LaCosta: online publication with articles about stuff like that
[00:33] Amy Summers: Thank you, i was trying to figure out how to ask you about something like that but I couldn't find the right words
[00:34] Amy Summers: So I should cut out the reliance on AAVE and try to watch my words more with relation to transgender?
[00:34] Lulu LaCosta: I mean with Amy there's so many ways you could go
[00:34] Lulu LaCosta: I actually thought of another one
[00:35] Lulu LaCosta: the suburban girl who watched television of what the big city was like so she moved there and... now she's this party girl who goes out every night, who is known for fighting on sight, who lives life like there's no tomorrow and every day is a party because that's what she thinks the cities are like
[00:35] Lulu LaCosta: There's a lot of things you can do with her and still keep the tough girl schtick!
[00:35] Amy Summers: I like that idea too!
[00:35] Lulu LaCosta: I'd prefer cutting out the AAVE
[00:35] Lulu LaCosta: but like I said
[00:35] Lulu LaCosta: you can do whatever it is that you'd want
[00:36] Amy Summers: Lulu, um, I'm willing to do that but on my profile what explicitly would those be
[00:36] Amy Summers: Because a bunch of those words I see on Twitter or co-workers use them and they're of a lot of different races
[00:36] Amy Summers: I'm really ignorant on this subject and I was mostly going off personal experience and Twitter, obviously
[00:38] Amy Summers: Something I realize may be bad is that I try to present my profiles on any furry site as "in character" rather than as a more simple, neutral explanation and that's probably really bad.
[00:38] Lulu LaCosta: things like 'ppreciate :p
[00:38] Lulu LaCosta: and the whole custom for instagram x3
[00:38] Lulu LaCosta: I read it and got a migraine
[00:39] Amy Summers: Well I had the idea recently to explain Amy's income that she's one of those instagram style celebrities, like the kind who visited that Fyre Festival?
[00:39] Lulu LaCosta: hahahaha
[00:39] Lulu LaCosta: yikes
[00:39] Lulu LaCosta: haha
[00:39] Amy Summers: Yeah because Amy's canonically not a very bright rabbit and would buy into something like that
[00:39] Amy Summers: At the time it seemed to make sense
[00:39] Lulu LaCosta: it was mainly me seeing the text when you highlight instagram i'd say
[00:40] Lulu LaCosta: and im not too familiar with your profile tbh
[00:40] Lulu LaCosta: i'd just read parts of it out loud
[00:40] Amy Summers: That's fine, I'm not blaming you for that.
[00:40] Lulu LaCosta: and if it sounds like something you actually say or something that your tone stays the same as always when you say it
[00:40] Lulu LaCosta: then you can keep it
[00:40] Lulu LaCosta: but if you change the way you talk when you say something, kill it :P
[00:40] Amy Summers: Alright, because I really do say stuff like "fam" in real life.
[00:41] Amy Summers: The uh younger people where I work got me onto doing that
[00:41] Lulu LaCosta: lolol
[00:41] Lulu LaCosta: thats more of meme culture
[00:41] Amy Summers: And I'll admit that sometimes to try and broaden that "tough girl" image I might have thrown in some other words, like, 'tryna'
[00:41] Lulu LaCosta: I don't even think NYC people say that anymore
[00:41] Lulu LaCosta: yeah thats what I was talking about I think it's called
[00:41] Amy Summers: Out here in the sticks a lot of people say it.
[00:42] Amy Summers: Probably some kind of aftershock
[00:42] Lulu LaCosta: copula deletion
[00:42] Amy Summers: Like there's a bunch of kinks here that are things I'd actually say but now that I look at them, yeah, there's a bunch that are worded for Amy: character vision rather than Amy: my own words
[00:43] Amy Summers: But I am a bit of a victim of meme culture I suppose
[00:43] Lulu LaCosta: aren't we all?
[00:43] Amy Summers: I see stuff like 'oh my mix tape' 'tryna' 'finna' on twitter and all these funny memes and go 'haha that sounds cool!'
[00:43] Amy Summers: and it sounds tough and cool and I think hey maybe Amy would say that
[00:44] Amy Summers: I feel so much better now that I've gotten the chance to talk to you Lulu
[00:45] Amy Summers: And I hope that from here on out I can try to be a more inclusive person and be less offensive in regards to how Amy is presented as a character. I don't know if you've seen her in any actual adventures but she speaks pretty plainly in them.
[00:45] Amy Summers: The idea of "hood bitch" Amy pretty much dropped when I got into Lewd World
[00:46] Lulu LaCosta: https://i.redd.it/rhxa5sktgehx.png
[00:46] Amy Summers: Oh?
[00:48] Lulu LaCosta: sorry you brought up memes
[00:48] Amy Summers: Hehe
[00:48] Lulu LaCosta: I communicate with my people back home by sending them a meme when i dont have the energy for a convo
[00:49] Lulu LaCosta: And Lop told me that, I haven't seen you game tho
[00:49] Amy Summers: I have a few logs I could always send you if you're interested, but Max is about to start up the adventure we were doing last night.
[00:49] Lulu LaCosta: Um! I'll just keep an eye out
[00:50] Amy Summers: Also, um, I dunno if it'd be appropriate but I have something of a gift if you'd like to accept it. In Lewd World.
[00:50] Amy Summers: You've heard of Aude's chill adventures, right?
[00:50] Amy Summers: With the rift and the squirrel/lemur/squirrelemur people?
[00:50] Lulu LaCosta: yupyup
[00:51] Amy Summers: Well, coincidentally I got to be in the last one and I got a really nice prize from it and I felt maybe it'd be appropriate if I gave it to you.
[00:51] Amy Summers: I have the log on stand-by if you think I'm making this item up BTW
[00:51] Amy Summers: Lice Comb of Friendship (valuable, ancient, historical, while held all lemurs and squirrels consider you their friend)
[00:51] Amy Summers: Aude said in story that it's a very important artifact used by the first lemur to pick the lice from the first squirrel
[00:51] Amy Summers: Very important to them
[00:52] Lulu LaCosta: Heh
[00:52] Amy Summers: and I got this and thought of you
[00:52] Lulu LaCosta: Oh, well very nice, and thank you! I'm glad you thought of it for me, I'll be sure to be careful when finding that lucky squirrel to remove lice from :p
[00:52] Lulu LaCosta: :)
[00:52] Amy Summers: Hehe, if Aude asks just tell her Amy gave it to you and it's fine
[00:52] Amy Summers: Maybe it'll work on that Slime you!
[00:53] Lulu LaCosta: That was my first thought
[00:53] Lulu LaCosta: and I didn't know you were watching the game earlier!
[00:54] Amy Summers: I was! I mean, I was really upset that you'd blocked me but you're still pretty fun to watch like I said before.
[00:54] Amy Summers: That's partially why I was so upset at first when I learned I was blocked.
[00:54] Amy Summers: "Lulu's cool! I'd love to have a game with her! WAIT WHAT"
[00:54] Lulu LaCosta: haha x3
[00:55] Lulu LaCosta: Yeah I'm pretty drama avoid-y. The whole thing with Ashfai really threw me for one.
[00:55] Lulu LaCosta: that's why we didn't talk sooner.
[00:55] Amy Summers: Oh god Freya.
[00:55] Amy Summers: That woman
[00:55] Lulu LaCosta: lol
[00:55] Amy Summers: Lop and I bitched about that woman for ages
[00:55] Lulu LaCosta: i think my complaint is the one that got her banned
[00:55] Amy Summers: I didn't want to start any drama so I just kept my mouth shut, even after I pointed out clear flaws with her actions and her sheet.
[00:55] Amy Summers: What was it?
[00:56] Lulu LaCosta: In a game with chess, Lulu made a peace treaty with slimes so they wouldn't be attacked. She told the slimes that I was not the leader and in no position to make a treaty, then she had a slime accompany our team because she wanted some bunny slime dick.
[00:57] Lulu LaCosta: So now, every single time we encounter anything, this slime wants us to attack and conquer it and starts tripping out if we don't.
[00:57] Lulu LaCosta: Then, she sent me a log of her asking another player if they were mad and why, xyz
[00:57] Amy Summers: Oh god I vaguely recall this! She even sent me a message like a day or so later asking me "is there anything wrong with how I RP?"
[00:57] Lulu LaCosta: then she bitched out Chess for her losing her game over
[00:57] Amy Summers: And I just point blank said "you fuck things too much"
[00:57] Lulu LaCosta: She lost because she took an eight foot character's dick for like three turns and let him take control
[00:58] Amy Summers: Do you remember that game Lop had with the Egyptian dungeon and she spent like a real world hour RPing sex with it?
[00:58] Amy Summers: Like one of the Anubis?
[00:58] Lulu LaCosta: jesus
[00:58] Lulu LaCosta: I don't think I saw that!
[00:58] Amy Summers: It was so awful and it ended with her face fucking the boss, who gave her like infernal herpes and Max laid this super hard trait on her that she whined about
[00:58] Lulu LaCosta: Also, when she lost, she told chess he had her lose because 'shes a woman' but its like
[00:58] Lulu LaCosta: lmaoooo
[00:59] Amy Summers: It was some shit like "Every time you do a Give It action take 1d4 damage"
[00:59] Amy Summers: And she cried over it for a day and got it changed
[00:59] Lulu LaCosta: yeah she did that crying thing with chess and he didn't budge
[00:59] Amy Summers: The precise moment I gave up on that girl.
[00:59] Lulu LaCosta: She came to me multiple times with her drama, before I know any of her drama,
[01:00] Lulu LaCosta: then once I found out what it was it was clear that I was not on her side, so she had to go :p
[01:00] Amy Summers: Yeah, funny that when I told her she had to stop fucking everything and disrailing adventures to fuck that she just left.
[01:01] Amy Summers: I mean, I can understand that it's Lewd World and there's a distinct amount of sexual energy involved in it, but if you just want that and don't want to engage with the game itself then I don't think it's the right fit
[01:01] Lulu LaCosta: right
[01:01] Lulu LaCosta: she just wants to fuck
[01:01] Lulu LaCosta: Lust driven RP would be perfect
[01:01] Amy Summers: Like I'm a very horny rabbit, I enjoy sex, but I make Amy go out of her way to avoid it because I wanted to play a good little Paladin
[01:02] Amy Summers: Exactly, just take your business to those LFRPs and ask for sexy adventures.
[01:02] Lulu LaCosta: agreed
[01:02] Lulu LaCosta: oi
[01:03] Amy Summers: I love this room and the game because growing up I got excluded by D&D groups because they didn't want me "ruining" their vibe or we
[01:03] Amy Summers: Yeah?
[01:03] Lulu LaCosta: sorry wrong chat :p
[01:03] Lulu LaCosta: I was bitching about how popular I've gotten since i dm'd XD
[01:03] Amy Summers: Kehehe
[01:04] Amy Summers: Everyone wants the game masters~
[01:04] Amy Summers: Speaking of dms, I've actually been begging Lop to hold off on continuing our game beause I wanted to give you my 100% attention
[01:04] Lulu LaCosta: oh!
[01:04] Lulu LaCosta: you can go game!
[01:05] Lulu LaCosta: I think I had the clarification I needed
[01:05] Amy Summers: Thank you. Lulu, it's like 1 AM here so tomorrow morning I'll go out and do those kinds of rewrites on my F-List/FA.
[01:05] Amy Summers: You make a lot of really strong points and I don't want to voice that kind of verbiage if it isn't me
[01:05] Amy Summers: Really, thank you so much <3
[01:05] Lulu LaCosta: :)
[01:05] Lulu LaCosta: you're welcome!
[01:06] Amy Summers: Can I get a hug before I go, please?
[01:06] Amy Summers: /me shiver-shakes
[01:06] Lulu LaCosta: /me huggles!
[01:06] Amy Summers: Skreeee~ <3
[01:06] Lulu LaCosta: c:
[01:06] Amy Summers: Thanks again, I'll see you later Lulu!
[01:06] Lulu LaCosta: cya!
[01:59] Amy Summers: Also I just remembered this but that fennec girl you were talking about is Ilkay
[01:59] Amy Summers: Tried to tell ya earlier
[01:59] Lulu LaCosta: Thanks!
[01:59] Lulu LaCosta: I like her.
[01:59] Amy Summers: She's a real sweetheart.