<BOODAN> can i give my 2 cents on the cap name situation
<BOODAN> or will i be punished like crux
<FMD> Are you a shit troll like Crux?
<BOODAN> crux isnt a troll trust me
<BOODAN> he is 100% sincere about everything
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<BOODAN> he is just a strange guy
<@DetroitLolcat> I'd like to hear what you have to say
<BOODAN> DetroitLolcat
<BOODAN> just compare it to a suspect test
<BOODAN> what if we all voted to ban aegislash
<BOODAN> but then aldarons like
<BOODAN> nah we arent
<BOODAN> your votes dont count
<BOODAN> would that be fair?
<@DetroitLolcat> I don't think that's a fair comparison to make
<DADDY_COOL> all votes in all polls are somehow manipulated
<DADDY_COOL> nobody watches a poll and gazes into their heart to find the answer
<DADDY_COOL> they see what their friends are voting for and jump on the bandwagon
<DADDY_COOL> lol
<BOODAN> why not
<BOODAN> i voted for ohmagod because i legit enjoyed the name
<BOODAN> i thought it was hilarious
<FMD> Completely different, you're ignoring the entire situation to make a weak analogy that only serves to support your own opinion.
<DADDY_COOL> completely different how?
<BOODAN> also yea really
<DADDY_COOL> if you're gonna claim false equivalency u gotta qualify it
<DADDY_COOL> my analogy holds
<BOODAN> they are the same beast
<@DetroitLolcat> In suspect tests, there is a certain qualification standard to be allowed to vote and there are no rules against campaigning.
<DADDY_COOL> the only 'vote manipulation' that happened was 'vote deletion'
<BOODAN> yes thats true DetroitLolcat
<BOODAN> but the way you handle voting in cap
<@DetroitLolcat> In CAP Polls, it is explicitly stated that campaigning for votes is not allowed.
<DADDY_COOL> detroitlolcat define campaigning
<BOODAN> it might as well be a limited process
<@DetroitLolcat> One moment, let me look it up in the PR forum.
<BOODAN> i voted for it on my own accord
<BOODAN> i lurk cap
<BOODAN> i thought it was funny
<BOODAN> so i voted
<BOODAN> why was my post invalidated
<bane> wait was my vote deleted
<DADDY_COOL> all ohmagod votes were deleted
<BOODAN> ohmagod was removed from the poll
<bane> .
<Salt> ?
<Salt> No it wasnt
<@DetroitLolcat> I would like to say that given the discussion that happened last night I do not believe that every vote that was deleted should have been. Some of them definitely should have, but I think some were done in error.
<@DetroitLolcat> Ohmagod was NOT removed from the poll though
<BOODAN> how do you tell
<DADDY_COOL> it was effectively, considering all the votes were deleted
<BOODAN> which should be deleted
<DADDY_COOL> yeah
<BOODAN> that seems arbitrary
<@DetroitLolcat> Asking for votes for your submission
<@DetroitLolcat> is the term used
<DADDY_COOL> tas asked me if id voted on the cap poll and i said no. then i went and saw the names and voted ohmagod, i guess thats campaigning? lol
<BOODAN> nobody asked
<DADDY_COOL> yea nobody asked
<DADDY_COOL> it was just a rumor
<DADDY_COOL> i didnt c any1
<DADDY_COOL> campaigning
<BOODAN> i have lurked cap since revenankh
<DADDY_COOL> P sure
<BOODAN> why am i invalidated here
<@DetroitLolcat> There are definitely accounts of campaigning in other IRC channels
<BOODAN> i even contributed to some earlier caps
<@DetroitLolcat> like hard evidence, logs and all
<bane> so
<BOODAN> DetroitLolcat
<@DetroitLolcat> but given what numerous people have told me, I think some of the votes were deleted in error
<BOODAN> <@DetroitLolcat> Asking for votes for your submission
<BOODAN> did the submitter
<BOODAN> campaign
<BOODAN> or was it randoms
<bane> i can tell people to vote my shit but when it comes down to it, no one is going to vote a certain way because someone told them
<DADDY_COOL> ^
<DADDY_COOL> ye
<DADDY_COOL> ye
<DADDY_COOL> its not like we were paid
<DADDY_COOL> brb im gonna take a shower
<@DetroitLolcat> there is plenty of precedent that shows that people will vote a certain way because someone told them
<@DetroitLolcat> that's literally the reason why that rule exists
<BOODAN> people are dumb
<FMD> A rumor that we have clear evidence of isn't a rumor.
<BOODAN> dont ruin our experience because of that
<bane> though on a serious matter on voting
<BOODAN> if you really need to delete posts
<bane> why do we vote for art / movepools based on names
<BOODAN> you should ask the poster first
<@DetroitLolcat> I do not believe your votes are the result of campaigning given what's been discussed here the past two days
<BOODAN> you should not delete things willy nilly
<BOODAN> this happened before too
<BOODAN> with hindenbird
<@DetroitLolcat> I tried to do that in #tf2 last night, but Crux (sorry, Ohmagod) was too busy being a troll
<@DetroitLolcat> in the poll, only the names are listed
<BOODAN> DetroitLolcat im not saying there was no precedent
<BOODAN> but in the future
<BOODAN> you should be more careful of what you guys accuse
<@DHR> tbf DLC, every name is linked to the submission post
<BOODAN> and who you guys accuse
<FMD> Nobody that actually thinks does stuff like that. :/
<bane> wouldnt it be better to have the names removed and be plced with letters and numbers
<bane> just my idea
<@DetroitLolcat> I definitely am going to bring this up in the cap staff forum
<@DetroitLolcat> tbh the idea of blind voting is starting to grow on me
<BOODAN> i like cap
<@DHR> Look, either way ohmagod was never leading at any point
<@DetroitLolcat> I used to not like the idea, but it'd solve all our problems
<BOODAN> i just dont like the idea of it being a police state
<BOODAN> i know that dhr
<BOODAN> but its about the principle here
<BOODAN> and integrity
<@DetroitLolcat> Ohmagod would have moved on to Name Poll 3