00:36	Octavian	Something that greatly baffles me about theists who point to personal experiences as part of the reason that they believe in their preferred deity
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00:37	barabbas`	Why would personal experience baffle you?
00:37	barabbas`	you have never had an experience with someone or something
00:39	Octavian	Is that I have never once encountered one who was phased by it when I pointed out that by considering their own, subjective, personal experience as a good reason for believing in a deity, they are also discounting any personal experiences of other human beings that happen to contradict their own.
00:40	Octavian	barabbas`: Reading comprehension, please. It wasn't the personal experiences that baffle me.
00:40	Octavian	It was the behavior of the theists in question.
00:42	barabbas`	Octavian: I don't discount the experience of others. Evidently you have a problem reading what Christians have to say. We don't judge the experience of others, that isn't our place. All I can do is tell of my experience. What you do with this information is up to you. But to say it didn't happen or I must be deluded doesnt make any sense.
00:42	Octavian	What I infer from this is that the theists in question do not place any evidentiary value on personal experiences.
00:42	Octavian	But that, for some reason, they place an overwhelming amount of evidentiary value on THEIR personal experience and any personal experience which happens to affirm their own.
00:42	barabbas`	What else would it be? It is evidence for the theist. Has nothing to do with others. All I can tell you is how you can have an experience of your own. I can't tell you what form it may take.
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00:44	Octavian	I'll be charitable and assume that you do not understand what discount means.
00:45	barabbas`	Octavian: That isn't being charitable, it is being obnoxious, condescending and insulting. Now if that is the only way you know how to debate, it doesn't belong here. And if you need me to, I can define each of those polysylabic words for you.
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00:46	Octavian	In that case, quote the definition of discount that you believe I was referring to and explain why you feel it isn't applicable to the subset of theists that I refer to in my statements.
00:47	barabbas`	Octavian This is what gets you kicked. You make a contention, it gets soundly trounced and you respond with condescension, insults and obnoxious behavior. Now move on, your argument was refutted and you, once again, failed to respond in kind. This is your only warning. God bless
00:47	Octavian	barabbas`: Was this an offer to give a definition? "And if you need me to, I can define each of those polysylabic words for you"
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00:48	Octavian	I asked you to do so, if you want I will use the language "I need you to"
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00:48	Octavian	So, were you lying when you said "And if you need me to, I can define each of those polysylabic words for you" ?
00:48	Octavian	Because it looks like you were lying.
00:49	Octavian	Since you banned me, rather than do it, once I asked you to do so.
00:49	barabbas`	I don't have time to deal with stupid anymore tonight. let me know if you ever grow up and out of it. God Bless
00:49	Octavian	Then maybe you shouldn't state your willingness to do something
00:50	Octavian	and then ban someone for taking you up on that offer
00:53	Octavian	My argument was in no way refuted. You lie and you compound your previous lies.