The King's Council - Meeting 03 Log - 1 Mar 2019

[4:24 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Ok, we ready to go?
[4:24 PM] Chaineh: Yessir
[4:24 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Alright!
[4:27 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, I wanted to start with the projects we agreed on at the beginning of the year.
[4:27 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: http://www.khdatabase.com/Beta:Community_Portal/Library
[4:28 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: The project list is at the bottom.
[4:30 PM] Chaineh: i like the pop-out things!
[4:30 PM] Chaineh: (which is really just adding shadow, but I can feed into the illusion)
[4:30 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I added the instructions/goals/description to each project this week. Does anyone have any questions/concerns/suggestions with them?
[4:31 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yeah, I really like that, too. I'm adding it to a lot of areas on site. It's already on the Main Page, too.
[4:32 PM] FinalRest: Apart from "oof, so much to do", it all seems good to me :smiley:
[4:32 PM] [BOT] Tron: Congratulations, @FinalRest, you just advanced to level 10!
[4:32 PM] FinalRest: Hurrah
[4:33 PM] Chaineh: Does "Royal Radiance" cover collectables and interactive objects?
[4:33 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Like treasures?
[4:34 PM] Chaineh: yes
[4:34 PM] Chaineh: oh wait, that'd probs be under waywardwind.
[4:34 PM] Chaineh: because walkthrough
[4:36 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yeah, that's how I was planning it.
[4:39 PM] Chaineh: okay, cool
[4:39 PM] Chaineh: I see no additions then, they're all pretty self-explanatory
[4:40 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I realize that it's a lot of work. Does anyone have any ideas how we could tackle it? I don't want to overburden anyone.
[4:40 PM] Chaineh: Hire lackeys
[4:41 PM] Chaineh: Honestly, just understanding that things take time and getting the bare bones set up will help a ton.
[4:41 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Haha. That'd be nice.
[4:42 PM] Chaineh: Walkthroughs are probably a good focus point, as well as KH3 content in mainspace
[4:42 PM] Draaek: :wgrRIP: <- us after all that
[4:42 PM] FinalRest: Yeah, I feel the same. Just tackle what we can and feel good about that. Hopefully if we build it, they will come
[4:42 PM] Chaineh: If we had only KH3 renders for some things, that's a good start. We don't need icons and such that are outdated
[4:43 PM] Stormcaster: Anyone of us got KH3 ultimania?
[4:43 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Part of the reason I've made all of these projects is because I feel it makes it clearer what we need, and people might be more inclined about helping out when they see it. They might think "Oh, hey, I know about that!"
[4:43 PM] Draaek: I dont promise anything but I miiiiiight be able to get an editor in. Sister of a friend of mine likes KH and already worked her way through KH3 so I jokingly said "have her join the database" but they're currently not around so I can't quite offer them to join in
[4:43 PM] Draaek: if I made sense
[4:43 PM] Chaineh: I'm considering buying it, but I don't read JP, so I wouldn't  be any help really
[4:43 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Same
[4:43 PM] Draaek: the only downside I see to having so many projects is that it does make it look like we have nothing at all and it really does look overwhelming
[4:44 PM] Draaek: KSM, I have a friend who can read, you were going to send me some screenshots/scans of something for him to translate but you never sent anything lol
[4:44 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Oh, right!
[4:44 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I did want to talk about that today, too.
[4:44 PM] Chaineh: @KeybladeSpyMaster If we break it down to "where the heck are the purple crystals", that might help, but someone may not connect if they see "Gameplay mechanics for the KH series"
[4:45 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: True
[4:47 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: With Royal Radiance and Wayward Wind, I was thinking those who decide to take those projects could discuss the best way to write those pages and thus determine what is needed. I don't really consider myself very good with writing walkthrough-related pages, that's why I wanted to leave it to people better-suited and knowledgeable than me.
[4:50 PM] Chaineh: How do we tackle someone who wants to do.. say, finding all the treasure chest locations, but not writing the story tutorial?
[4:51 PM] FinalRest: What do you mean by story tutorial?
[4:53 PM] Chaineh: Would they just put in a message in the discussion saying "I'll take the treasure list" or something like that?
[4:54 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Sure, that could work.
[4:54 PM] FinalRest: I reckon that's a good way to do it. Like public declarations of what we're working on
[4:54 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Right
[4:54 PM] Chaineh: Like, they already beat the game, so they don't have to write "Go up the Mountain to point A to find Dark Riku. After Giving him the Aluminum Shard, dive off the mountain to crash into the water to enter the boss battle."
[4:54 PM] FinalRest: Then others can offer help if they want or if its needed (like how Chain is helping me with the treasures)
[4:55 PM] Chaineh: Honestly, I do way better with team projects than solo ones
[4:55 PM] FinalRest: So like the separation between a walkthrough and a treasure guide?
[4:56 PM] Chaineh: I was just saying that what if someone wants to do one part of a project, but not the other
[4:57 PM] Chaineh: since Treasure guides and walkthrough both fall under the same category
[4:58 PM] FinalRest: I would assume people can add what they like. Like I wrote up that page full of the ingredients and their worlds, but have no further plans. I might go back and do something with them, but for now I just put that info out there in case someone else wants to do something with it. Might be me, might be someone else. That was my version of doing only one part of the project
[4:59 PM] Chaineh: just making sure that by signing up for a project, they're not obligated to do EVERYTHING associated with said project. Glad we're on the same page
[5:00 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Right
[5:00 PM] FinalRest: Yeah, it wouldn't be fun to burden people with something like that. This is a hobby after all... I don't want it to feel like a chore
[5:01 PM] Chaineh: true true
[5:02 PM] FinalRest: Was there anything else you wanted to bring up re: the projects, KSM?
[5:03 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Nope, I think that was it.
[5:03 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'm planning on promoting them on our Twitter more regularly from here on out.
[5:04 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Does anyone, real quick, have any means of and plans to record games? Might be good to look into and promote, too.
[5:04 PM] Draaek: beyond PS4 streaming, no, and even then I honestly dont stream my games
[5:05 PM] Stormcaster: Chain was streaming and all I guess?
[5:05 PM] Draaek: why would you need them recorded for tho, ksm?
[5:06 PM] Chaineh: I recorded some of my KH3 walkthrough, but I had my cam on for reactions
[5:06 PM] Chaineh: But I could for wiki purposes
[5:08 PM] FinalRest: By recording are we talking just recording what's on your screen (like the same way you take screenshots) or streaming/when you're in the corner of the screen or voice recording yourself?
[5:09 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: It's not urgent or necessary by any means. Just a thought I had that could, sometime down the line, be a good idea to compliment our walkthrough pages.
[5:09 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: It'd be more recording what's on your screen.
[5:10 PM] FinalRest: Oh, well in that case then, yes. I saved clips everytime I found a treasure/emblem or when there was a scene I wanted to gif, so I inadvertently recorded about, maybe, 70% of my playthrough.
[5:10 PM] FinalRest: That way I've just got all the clips on my computer and can skim through them for info instead of having to look back through the game
[5:12 PM] Draaek: FR one step ahead of all of us
[5:13 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Woo!
[5:15 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So then, we can talk about whether you want to use those, and we can upload them to the Database YouTube channel if you want, later.
[5:16 PM] FinalRest: Yeah sure. I don't mind re-recording stuff if we need  it either.... though I don't know how informative any of my battles would be, cause my strategy is mostly BASH EM, BASH EM GOOD! But we'll cross that bridge later :stuck_out_tongue:
[5:16 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: XD
[5:16 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So let's actually talk about the translations.
[5:17 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, I've now got scans for a few of the Ultimanias, thanks to Lady Junky
[5:17 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: (and Ultima Spark, unknowingly)
[5:20 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: http://hyperion2009.tumblr.com/downloads
[5:20 PM] Stormcaster: wow
[5:21 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I've actually already downloaded them, but they're on my Surface Pro, and that's not working right now, so I can't get it at this moment. It's on my to do list.
[5:23 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, I haven't ever actually looked at them, but how would we want to handle the information in here as far as translating and adding to the Database? The only thing I know is in most of these that I've been wanting to have our translation for is the Nomura interviews in each.
[5:24 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: But following the translation of the KHIII Ultimania this week, I'm realizing there's a whole lot more than the interview in terms of lore in this book. Kinda always assumed the rest was just game data (enemy stats, that kind of thing)
[5:26 PM] FinalRest: I'm not really familiar enough with the ultimanias to know what we would use. For interviews though, I think it'd be neat to have pages for them, like what you've done for the transcripts. Then we could cite those pages as sources when writing articles
[5:26 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Exactly! That's what I've been thinking.
[5:27 PM] Chaineh: Agreed. I just wish they'd release in English
[5:31 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, I don't know, Draaek, we've got the scans now. Do we just need to find the page for the interview itself? Would that be a good start?
[5:32 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I know @Stormcaster also expressed interest in helping here, too.
[5:32 PM] Draaek: :cahlaShrug:
[5:33 PM] Stormcaster: Well how do we begin?
[5:33 PM] Draaek: my friend has uni to deal with so the translations wouldn't come out fast but I can always send them to him and see what comes out
[5:33 PM] Draaek: but up to you
[5:33 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yeah, that's kinda where I'm at, is how do we begin with this. :joy:
[5:33 PM] Stormcaster: :joy:
[5:35 PM] Chaineh: there's a person on twitter I'm sure we can ask, since they are already doing translations and don't belong to any site
[5:38 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Is this the person who's been translating the KHIII Ultimania?
[5:38 PM] Chaineh: yes
[5:38 PM] Chaineh: https://twitter.com/lunesacree
[5:39 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So what would you recommend, Chain? You think we should ask them their thoughts about how to approach this? I'm down
[5:41 PM] Chaineh: HIRE THEM AS A LACKEY
[5:41 PM] Stormcaster: XD
[5:41 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: OOH, I AM SOO DOWN FOR THAT
[5:41 PM] Chaineh: I HAVE $10
[5:42 PM] Chaineh: Wait, I bought food
[5:42 PM] Chaineh: I HAVE $3.47
[5:42 PM] Chaineh: But seriously, getting them as our translator would help
[5:43 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Would you be able to talk to them, Chain?
[5:45 PM] Chaineh: I can yes
[5:46 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I mean, I think the more people we have helping with translating, the better for everyone. That way, no one person feels burdened with all of it.
[5:46 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: This user could at least help point us in the correct direction as far as the other Ultimanias go, too.
[5:47 PM] Chaineh: Side note: Project Destati now follows us on Twitter!!
[5:47 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Woohoo!
[5:47 PM] Chaineh: Now to get them on my personal account..
[5:48 PM] Chaineh: What's next on the agenda KSM?
[5:48 PM] Chaineh: unless you have more on the translation front
[5:49 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: The last thing I wanted to talk about is, the Database's first anniversary is Tuesday. Anyone have any ideas how we can celebrate?
[5:49 PM] Chaineh: CAKE
[5:50 PM] FinalRest: Aw, yay!
[5:50 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I have to run and take my sister to her job, but I'll be back in a bit. You all can keep going
[5:51 PM] Stormcaster: First anniversary huh
[5:52 PM] Stormcaster: I'd love to do some KH-related stuff but KH isn't a multiplayer game lol
[5:53 PM] Chaineh: Not sure how to celebrate, maybe have someone whip up an image of some sort?
[5:53 PM] Chaineh: I could do a special stream! But I'm not sure how to make it special...
[5:53 PM] Stormcaster: How about we all see you getting your butt kicked by Dark inferno
[5:53 PM] Chaineh: except it's easy ;-;
[5:53 PM] Chaineh: i already beat it
[5:54 PM] Chaineh: unless I do KH2 blindfolded
[5:54 PM] Stormcaster: Yeah sadly
[5:54 PM] FinalRest: Start off your stream by recreating the 3D tea party
[5:55 PM] Chaineh: WITH WHAT FRIENDS
[5:55 PM] FinalRest: You must be all the characters
[5:55 PM] Stormcaster: Imaginary
[5:55 PM] Chaineh: understood
[5:56 PM] Chaineh: or i'll tape a picture of them to pillows
[5:56 PM] FinalRest: Chain doing goofy impressions. This is the anniversary present we deserve
[5:56 PM] Chaineh: I'll be Sora, and Donald and Goofy will be pillows with pictures of them taped on
[5:57 PM] Stormcaster: That just sounds VERY SAD
[5:57 PM] Chaineh: wish i had this planned out beforehand, could've used Vday decorations because hearts
[6:00 PM] Chaineh: i'm planning this out in my head, but i do not have the time or willpower to do such a video
[6:00 PM] Chaineh: it'd go something like:
[6:00 PM] FinalRest: It's the thought that counts
[6:01 PM] Chaineh: Sora (me): Boy I'm sure glad we're enjoying this tea party while Riku is inside me!
[6:01 PM] Chaineh: Donald: [indistinguishable noises]
[6:02 PM] Chaineh: Goofy: A-hyuck!
[6:02 PM] Chaineh: Sora: What are we celebrating anyway?
[6:02 PM] Chaineh: Goofy: Why, it's the 1 year anniversary of the KHDatabase!
[6:02 PM] Chaineh: Sora: KHDatabase? What's that?
[6:03 PM] Chaineh: Donald: It's a source of information run by fans containing all sorts of information about the Kingdom Hearts series!
[6:04 PM] Chaineh: Sora: So, the Kingdom Hearts Wi-
[6:04 PM] Chaineh: gun cocking sound
[6:04 PM] Chaineh: cut to Donald holding a gun, pointed at Sora
[6:05 PM] Chaineh: Goofy: It actually doubles as a news site too!
[6:05 PM] Chaineh: Sora: But doesn't KHInsid-
[6:05 PM] Chaineh: yet another gun cocking sound
[6:05 PM] Chaineh: cut to Donald holding two guns
[6:06 PM] Chaineh: That's all I've got so far
[6:06 PM] Stormcaster: Comedy skit lol
[6:07 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: XD
[6:07 PM] Stormcaster: brb grabbing something for breakfast
[6:08 PM] Chaineh: KSM, you had an idea to celebrate, yes?
[6:08 PM] FinalRest: Can you beat Chain's skit?
[6:08 PM] Chaineh: Can you do Chain's skit?
[6:09 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I can definitely not beat it.
[6:09 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I didn't really have an idea for the actual celebration.
[6:10 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: But I was thinking, and it'd work for every time, we could do some sort of event that could stretch all month, and ending with the series' anniversary at the end of the month.
[6:11 PM] FinalRest: Did you have an idea for said event?
[6:11 PM] Chaineh: ahh, i'm rereading that message, and yes there was no idea for actual event
[6:11 PM] Chaineh: Ohh!
[6:11 PM] Chaineh: What about a riddle contest?
[6:11 PM] Chaineh: Like KHVids did a couple months ago
[6:12 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: That'd be soo cool!
[6:12 PM] Chaineh: And I happen to know a certain hermit that used to do riddles that may show interest...
[6:13 PM] Chaineh: Not sure how insane he actually went though
[6:13 PM] Chaineh: he only talks about 2D waifus, haven't seen a post about KH3
[6:13 PM] Chaineh: Hmm.
[6:13 PM] Chaineh: new plan.
[6:13 PM] FinalRest: What was the KHvids thing?
[6:14 PM] Chaineh: They basically set up forums in the style of Castle Oblivion
[6:14 PM] Chaineh: So Forum 1 = Riddle 1 = "Floor 1"
[6:14 PM] Chaineh: to get to the next forum, it would require a password, and the password would be the answer to the riddle
[6:15 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yeah, they did that somehow.
[6:15 PM] Chaineh: They sure did!
[6:15 PM] Chaineh: No idea how!
[6:15 PM] Chaineh: Didn't even know that was possible!
[6:15 PM] FinalRest: Oh, that sounds neat
[6:16 PM] FinalRest: What was the goal?
[6:17 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I think they gave away a prize of some sort if you were first to finish Floor 13? Can't remember for sure.
[6:17 PM] FinalRest: Neato
[6:17 PM] Chaineh: Get through all 13 floors and you get a badge (digital)
[6:19 PM] Chaineh: Anyone got any ideas how we could set up something with the resources we have (like not password-protected forums)
[6:19 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We could do something like that on the Discord. You put in a specific command, and it's grants you access to the next channel.
[6:19 PM] Chaineh: Could you pull off something like that?
[6:20 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Sure, I can set up several custom commands with @Tron
[6:20 PM] Chaineh: and what'd be the prize?
[6:20 PM] Chaineh: neat!
[6:21 PM] Chaineh: I wish you could give emotes to specific people
[6:21 PM] Chaineh: that'd be neat
[6:21 PM] FinalRest: We get the only copy of Chain's skit.
[6:21 PM] FinalRest: If Chain wins his reward is that he doesnt have to do the skit
[6:21 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We could make Tron give a role with access to a specific channel when putting in specific commands.
[6:23 PM] FinalRest: I dunno what we could offer as a reward. Maybe just make it a for fun thing?
[6:27 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yeah, that's all I can think of, too.
[6:28 PM] Chaineh: Sounds good to me! We'd need riddles though, and that's not my strong suit ^^;
[6:28 PM] FinalRest: If you give me an example of the type of riddles you're looking for, I can help
[6:29 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: It'd be cool to do a small prize, like a Funko keychain or something, but I don't know how we'd handle shipping if someone in like Brazil wins.
[6:29 PM] Chaineh: @FinalRest like LA's old riddles
[6:29 PM] FinalRest: Yeah, but he did heaps of kinds
[6:29 PM] FinalRest: Ugh, it sucks because I have three spare KH figural keychains, but I'm in NZ so can't ship :frowning:
[6:30 PM] Chaineh: you can't ship things to any country? or is it just ridiculously expensive?
[6:30 PM] FinalRest: Expensive
[6:30 PM] Chaineh: gotcha. Dumb economy.
[6:31 PM] Chaineh: KHVids got it so that anyone who got to the 13th floor got the prize
[6:31 PM] Chaineh: and they offered hints
[6:32 PM] FinalRest: Eh, I think just for fun is okay. It's a celebration after all
[6:33 PM] Chaineh: sounds good to me!
[6:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Throughout the month, I'll try to tweet more regularly about the Database, what's going on and what not, to generate more interest in us.
[6:35 PM] FinalRest: I'll try to remember to do the same with the tumblr
[6:36 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, a couple of last things, not so much needing a lot of discussion, just some updates.
[6:37 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We are now updated to MediaWiki 1.32, one of the biggest updates to it is a new Recent Changes layout, if you haven't seen it. It has some better ways of filtering edits and has a built in live updates feed! It can be turned off, though, if you miss the old version, in User Preferences.
[6:39 PM] Chaineh: I did notice! I like it!
[6:40 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'm also still working on rebuilding our templates and site so it uses more mobile-friendly code, so be prepared to see those changes around the site.
[6:41 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We have a new Template Wizard for those who don't like using the Visual Editor but want help with inserting templates into pages. It's a beta feature that can be turned on in User Preferences
[6:42 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: And we have an optional dark mode theme that can be turned on in User Preferences > Gadgets. It's still a work in progress, I've still got a bit to work out, but check it out!
[6:44 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Also, I've updated our Patreon page, and our first goal is to get rid of ads on site. Which we're pretty close to accomplishing, by the way. If anyone has any suggestions for improving our Patreon page, let me know!
[6:45 PM] FinalRest: Is the Patreon on the front page?
[6:45 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: It's in our navigation bar.
[6:46 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We could add it to the Main Page, though, if you'd like. I haven't thought of that.
[6:46 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So to finish, is there anything you guys want to talk about? Any requests for features or ideas for improvement? Critiques, comments, concerns, maladies of the mind?
[6:47 PM] Chaineh: Add icon next to discord
[6:47 PM] FinalRest: ^
[6:47 PM] Chaineh: Did we want to do April Fool's this year?
[6:48 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Icon next to Discord?
[6:48 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Not sure I understand.
[6:48 PM] Chaineh: pateron icon next to discord
[6:48 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: OH
[6:48 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Okay, sounds good!
[6:48 PM] FinalRest: I don't have any april fools ideas, but I wouldn't object to someone else doing it
[6:48 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'm always down for April Fool's jokes.
[6:49 PM] Chaineh: Thinking DLC or fake Ultimania translation? That's all i got
[6:51 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: We can think more on it, if we need to, we've got a month. If we come up with something, though, I'm down to do it.
[6:51 PM] Chaineh: cool. I'll bring it up later then
[6:51 PM] Chaineh: I have nothing else.
[6:51 PM] FinalRest: My turn, then
[6:51 PM] FinalRest: http://www.khdatabase.com/User:FinalRest/Kingdom_Hearts_III_Lucky_Emblem_Locations
[6:51 PM] FinalRest: http://www.khdatabase.com/User:FinalRest/Kingdom_Hearts_III_Treasure_Locations
[6:52 PM] FinalRest: So I have just finished the lucky emblem page. I've read through the whole thing twice to make sure it reads well. I also colored the tables to match each world's treasure chests
[6:53 PM] FinalRest: I wanna check if everyone has any problems with it. Do you like the colors? The placement of the rewards table and the secret ending explanation? The tables and photos and all the layout stuff?
[6:53 PM] FinalRest: Is it ready for publishing?
[6:55 PM] FinalRest: The treasure chest page is not complete and I haven't proofread yet, but the lucky emblems page should give an idea of what the end result would be. The only thing I want to do extra to the treasure page is remove the item names from under the chest pics, cause I think of that section as the spoiler free/abbreviated guide, so I don't think the names are neccessary. Otherwise I just have to fill stuff in, recolor and proofread
[6:56 PM] FinalRest: If there are no changes to request, I'll publish lucky emblems now nd treasure will go up when I've finished with it.
[6:56 PM] FinalRest: So, thoughts?
[6:58 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I really like how they look!
[6:58 PM] FinalRest: Oh, and long term, of course I would want to replace the treasure chest pics with their proper changed each world version, but that can't be helped rn. I'd also like to get better pics of some of the chests, but that'd require a replay, which I'm not in the mood for now, but would put on the agenda for later (maybe with that final mix everyone is expecting). That's all the changes I have to offer though
[7:01 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'd remove "game's end" though, from the secret ending requirements. I got the secret ending without finishing the game again, just by getting the emblems required.
[7:01 PM] FinalRest: Oh, good to know! Will edit now
[7:02 PM] FinalRest: Done! Anything else?
[7:02 PM] Chaineh: Should we add red squares to the pictures? If you don't know where to look, some of them may be hard to see. Or would that look too messy?
[7:03 PM] FinalRest: I considered it, but wasn't crazy about the idea.
[7:04 PM] Chaineh: since we have the descriptions, i think it'd be fine.
[7:04 PM] Chaineh: (without)
[7:05 PM] Chaineh: Does anyone else see it like this on their computer? Or do I need to adjust my settings?
[7:05 PM] Chaineh: Like, I don't like that the images are cut off
[7:05 PM] Chaineh: but also i like the size of the images, so it's kind of a catch 22
[7:05 PM] FinalRest: Hmmm, mine all fits in, but my screen is pretty long I think
[7:06 PM] Chaineh: might be screen resolution then
[7:06 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Mine cuts off, too, but I know my resolution sucks
[7:06 PM] [BOT] Tron: Congratulations, @KeybladeSpyMaster, you just advanced to level 17!
[7:06 PM] Stormcaster: Do wikis have this auto-adjust element
[7:06 PM] Stormcaster: Like it adjusts the layout based on the resolution
[7:07 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Tables don't, on wikis or anywhere else.
[7:07 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: That's actually why I've been remaking the templates on the Database. Using divs allows us to make rules for layout based on screen size.
[7:08 PM] Chaineh: when Mediatable 2.0?
[7:08 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: But they're a little trickier to work with then tables are.
[7:08 PM] Stormcaster: Cause HTML does and it's quite an old technology already I figured wiki would have them already lol
[7:09 PM] Chaineh: Other than that, I think the page looks good
[7:10 PM] FinalRest: Hmmm, so is it an option to do a width to 100%? Cause I can't tell if it works on my end, cause it fits without a width limit for me either way
[7:10 PM] Chaineh: publish and let me know
[7:11 PM] FinalRest: I just did it for olympus
[7:11 PM] FinalRest: dunno if im putting it in the right place though
[7:11 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: The image sizes are hard-coded, too. That'll cause it to not resize, too.
[7:11 PM] Stormcaster: Wow
[7:11 PM] Chaineh: didn't work
[7:14 PM] FinalRest: Ugh. All the images are set to preset resolutions set by the site. If I try to set it to anything else it just turns them into squares for some reason? So I'm not sure how to resize the images
[7:14 PM] Chaineh: "The image sizes are hard-coded, too. That'll cause it to not resize, too."
[7:15 PM] FinalRest: Anyone got any ideas? Or should we just leave as is (even if I hate having to side scroll)?
[7:15 PM] Chaineh: I say leave as is
[7:16 PM] Chaineh: Proposal: Change @Draaek 's image to see Roxas' face
[7:16 PM] Chaineh: Now I have nothing
[7:16 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I can see what I can do about it.
[7:16 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: (later)
[7:16 PM] FinalRest: Haha okay. Should we wait to publish then?
[7:17 PM] Chaineh: Nah, I say publish anyway
[7:17 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: ^
[7:17 PM] FinalRest: Okay. So just "Kingdom Hearts III Lucky Emblem Locations"?
[7:17 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Oh, about Draaek's staff image? Was waiting on her to decide who her favorite main KH character is. Though I do have a few Roxas images ready in case she want's to choose Roxas.
[7:17 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: "Lucky Emblems"?
[7:18 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Or Walkthrough:Kingdom Hearts III/Lucky Emblem Locations
[7:18 PM] FinalRest: Alright, the Walkthrough one
[7:19 PM] FinalRest: So after I do that, I was wondering if you wanted to implement lucky emblem/treasure locations into the world pages?
[7:19 PM] Chaineh: I'd say yes
[7:19 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yes
[7:19 PM] Chaineh: like how we had characters on the keyhole
[7:20 PM] FinalRest: Okay, so I was thinking we just pick one of the tables (pictures or info) to include. If we use info, we use a see also link, if we use pics, we make the pics link to the walktrhough page
[7:21 PM] Chaineh: Would pics be mobile-friendly?
[7:21 PM] FinalRest: I have no idea
[7:24 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I think the info would be better.
[7:25 PM] FinalRest: Okay. Do we want seperate headers for emblems and treasures or put them both under a "collectibles" title or something?
[7:26 PM] Chaineh: ==Collectables==
===Treasures===
===Lucky Emblems===
[7:26 PM] Chaineh: (that way we also don't have to tab it)
[7:26 PM] FinalRest: Yeah that's what I was thinking
[7:26 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: That sounds perfect
[7:27 PM] FinalRest: Cool! Then that's all my questions on that. One more thing...
[7:27 PM] Chaineh: oi?
[7:28 PM] FinalRest: After these lists, I was thinking about doing flan strategies. I'm not interrupting anyone's plans by taking that on?
[7:28 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Nope!
[7:28 PM] Chaineh: Nope!
[7:28 PM] Chaineh: I do have some notes though that I'll pass along
[7:29 PM] FinalRest: Kay cool. Well then.... what do we want for flans? Cause outside of strategies, I don't know what an article would entail. Starting with do we do one page for all flans or split them up? Do we want look descriptions etc?
[7:30 PM] Chaineh: Rewards, scores. Values of different flans (esp the photo one)
[7:30 PM] Chaineh: Where to find
[7:30 PM] Chaineh: I say all on one
[7:31 PM] FinalRest: Do we have a minigame infobox?
[7:32 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Yep
[7:32 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: InfoMiniGame
[7:33 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: www.khdatabase.com/Template:InfoMiniGame
[7:33 PM] FinalRest: Coolio. So all on one page? A section for location, one for strategies, one for rewards?
[7:34 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I actually was thinking separate would be better, though I realize a separate page for some of the flans is a little harder to justify (like the strawberry flan)
[7:35 PM] FinalRest: I could do both? Seperate pages, and a hub page? Though outside of links to the other pages, I dunno what other info I could put on the hub page
[7:37 PM] FinalRest: Looking at minigames pages on certain other sites, thier hub pages have things like setting and development, but we don't have info on the later yet and the former is different for each flan. They don't have a story that links them all, either
[7:37 PM] Chaineh: Maybe just a general table for the hub page (like the top portion of your treasure list draft) and then go into specifics on the individual pages (like the bottom portion of your treasure list draft)
[7:37 PM] FinalRest: I could maybe do a personality section on the hub? Cause they all share that.
[7:37 PM] Chaineh: Like the table would be Image|Name|Room|Score Needed
[7:38 PM] Chaineh: and everything else would go on hub
[7:38 PM] Chaineh: yeah, personality could be fun
[7:39 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: I'd make a draft, and if it seems natural to split it, then go for it. If it feels really weird splitting the pages, then just do the one page.
[7:39 PM] Chaineh: good ideas!
[7:40 PM] FinalRest: Okay, thanks! I'll just write stuff up and workshop where I want things to go. Eh, I'll figure it out... but first, the treasure list!
[7:40 PM] FinalRest: That's all I've got to talk about :smile:
[7:41 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Anything else from anyone? Speak now or forever hold your peace!
[7:42 PM] FinalRest: Out of interest, what was everyone's worst flan?
[7:42 PM] [BOT] Tron: Congratulations, @FinalRest, you just advanced to level 11!
[7:42 PM] FinalRest: Mine was that jumping one. I don't know why, but I was so bad at it
[7:43 PM] Chaineh: CHERRY IN OLYMPUS
[7:43 PM] Chaineh: UGH
[7:43 PM] Chaineh: jumping one was close 2nd.
[7:43 PM] Chaineh: as soon as you start diving I lose it @.@
[7:43 PM] Draaek: ohai hoomans I fell asleep I'm sorry
[7:44 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: so far, Monstropolis
[7:44 PM] Draaek: everything looks fine EXCEPT what you said, chain :wgrGLARE:
[7:44 PM] FinalRest: Ooop, I lucked into the answer to destroying Monstropolis and was very happy with myself. That's my easiest one now.
[7:44 PM] FinalRest: My second least fav is probably the trinity one
[7:48 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: So, I think we're done. Do you have any questions/concerns/suggestions/requests/maladies of the mind, Draaek?
[7:49 PM] Chaineh: @Draaek WHAT'D I SAY??
[7:49 PM] Chaineh: I just wanted you to have a pretty icon ;-;
[7:51 PM] FinalRest: What about a Frost Serpent? They're kind of dragon-y :smile:
[7:51 PM] FinalRest: Or dragoons are probably somewhere in kh3, right?
[7:52 PM] Chaineh: I legit thought it was a dragon until I looked at the journal
[7:52 PM] Chaineh: They're not ;-;
[7:52 PM] Chaineh: because Xaldin is good guy
[7:52 PM] Chaineh: They were my fav too..
[7:53 PM] Chaineh: Fav flan is definatly the blood orange in Corona. They're all so cute that I love taking the pictures!
[7:53 PM] Chaineh: Especially the tiny one outside the cave and the REALLY tiny one in the cave
[7:55 PM] Chaineh: Well, I'm off to eat and sleep. Night all! Thanks for the meeting! :smile:
[7:55 PM] FinalRest: Oh gosh I love that tiny one!
[7:55 PM] FinalRest: Bye!
[7:55 PM] FinalRest: I'm gonna take that as my queue to bounce too! Bye!
[7:56 PM] Chaineh: Also good pancakes.
[7:58 PM] KeybladeSpyMaster: Alright, thanks a lot guys!