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  1. Shubham Goyal
  2. 1) Update Mindlinc Survey System
  3. 2) Frameworks are outdated and fail security audits
  4. 3) Some customers were sold this system but will not use it because of #2
  5. 4) Current system is Java, JBoss 4.2.3, Seam 2.x
  6. 5) Our erx system is currently in JBoss 7.1.1, survey system can be upgraded to Seam 3.x so it can be deployed in our JBoss 7.1.1 server, if not upgrading, new solution needs to be able to support our existing database of defined clinical surveys, which is in the hundreds
  7.  
  8.  
  9. Shubham Goyal
  10. I tried to define a project for you smile emoticon
  11. Does this sound good?
  12. I think it makes sense to propose a project that can finish in 2 months, so you are not aimless
  13. that is why it took me some time
  14.  
  15. Benjamin Lim
  16. what is erx
  17. at first, you wanted me to start planning the new system
  18. now, you want me to complete the project in 2 months
  19.  
  20. Benjamin Lim
  21. 5:01pm
  22. Benjamin Lim
  23. ok, let's not waste time
  24. i'm walking
  25. good luck
  26.  
  27. Shubham Goyal
  28. 5:03pm
  29. Shubham Goyal
  30. Hey
  31. What?
  32. I went to get iced milk tea
  33. Lol
  34. This is a small part of everything
  35. Survey system
  36. You mentioned that you didn't feel comfortable being responsible for the whole system man
  37.  
  38. Benjamin Lim
  39. 5:04pm
  40. Benjamin Lim
  41. sure, a small part, get dean or someone to do it
  42.  
  43. Shubham Goyal
  44. 5:04pm
  45. Shubham Goyal
  46. That is why I proposed this
  47. lol why are you angry? frown emoticon
  48.  
  49. Benjamin Lim
  50. 5:05pm
  51. Benjamin Lim
  52. i don't know, maybe look at your requirements and think about it
  53.  
  54. Shubham Goyal
  55. 5:05pm
  56. Shubham Goyal
  57. This is the project description Dean gave me man
  58.  
  59. Benjamin Lim
  60. 5:06pm
  61. Benjamin Lim
  62. is this a greenfield proejct
  63. is this only backend
  64.  
  65. Shubham Goyal
  66. 5:06pm
  67. Shubham Goyal
  68. Not greenfield
  69. This is an upgrade
  70.  
  71. Benjamin Lim
  72. 5:06pm
  73. Benjamin Lim
  74. yes
  75. so i need to understand the system
  76. i need to understand the business logic
  77. how long do you reckon it'd take for me to learn the framework
  78.  
  79. Shubham Goyal
  80. 5:07pm
  81. Shubham Goyal
  82. Of course, and that is why I asked them to propose something that can be done by an outsider in an internship.
  83.  
  84. Benjamin Lim
  85. 5:07pm
  86. Benjamin Lim
  87. and why do i want to learn that framework
  88. i don't need the money
  89.  
  90. Shubham Goyal
  91. 5:07pm
  92. Shubham Goyal
  93. If it takes Long, no worries. If you don't finish, that is good too smile emoticon
  94. Okay, let me reverse this smile emoticon
  95. What do you want to do?
  96. Or what sort of stuff do you wanna be working on?
  97. We can define something that ties well with that
  98. But you can't say to me that you are walking, me of all the people tongue emoticon
  99.  
  100. Benjamin Lim
  101. 5:08pm
  102. Benjamin Lim
  103. because it looks like
  104. you haven't got a clue
  105. i'm sorry
  106.  
  107. Shubham Goyal
  108. 5:09pm
  109. Shubham Goyal
  110. Yes, I also don't know the frameworks they have mentioned
  111.  
  112. Benjamin Lim
  113. 5:09pm
  114. Benjamin Lim
  115. because it looks like i'm supposed to deliver this project
  116. in 2 months
  117. and then what
  118.  
  119. Shubham Goyal
  120. 5:09pm
  121. Shubham Goyal
  122. Lol
  123. Man, do I look like I will question you on whether it is delivered or not
  124. I just need to define something for 2 months so I can get the green light from Nawal and investors
  125. That is why I took the time to define this
  126.  
  127. Benjamin Lim
  128. 5:11pm
  129. Benjamin Lim
  130. ok, go find someone who can do this then
  131. i can't
  132. good luck finding anyone who will
  133. i just want a fair deal
  134.  
  135. Shubham Goyal
  136. 5:12pm
  137. Shubham Goyal
  138. How about I add you to fogbugz
  139.  
  140. Benjamin Lim
  141. 5:12pm
  142. Benjamin Lim
  143. you're asking an undergrad to deliver a system in 2 months in a new framework with a language he hasn't touched in over a year
  144.  
  145. Shubham Goyal
  146. 5:12pm
  147. Shubham Goyal
  148. and you can pick up a small component and take that up? smile emoticon
  149.  
  150. Benjamin Lim
  151. 5:12pm
  152. Benjamin Lim
  153. maybe find a senior engineer
  154. yeah
  155.  
  156. Shubham Goyal
  157. 5:12pm
  158. Shubham Goyal
  159. Okay, I am sorry about that lah
  160.  
  161. Benjamin Lim
  162. 5:13pm
  163. Benjamin Lim
  164. sure shubham
  165.  
  166. Shubham Goyal
  167. 5:13pm
  168. Shubham Goyal
  169. I don't want to be unfair lol
  170.  
  171. Benjamin Lim
  172. 5:13pm
  173. Benjamin Lim
  174. you started off saying i could work with the sg team
  175. and then i could migrate the old system
  176. and now i'm to upgrade the old system
  177. what's next?
  178.  
  179. Shubham Goyal
  180. 5:13pm
  181. Shubham Goyal
  182. upset emoticon
  183.  
  184. Benjamin Lim
  185. 5:14pm
  186. Benjamin Lim
  187. fuck
  188. what did you do as a google intern
  189. 3 months
  190.  
  191. Shubham Goyal
  192. 5:14pm
  193. Shubham Goyal
  194. Okay, how about this? Rewrite the survey system in any framework comfortable to you? 😊 That is a constant pain point with customers
  195. Maybe NodeJS? grin emoticon
  196. Then we can help you from Singapore too
  197.  
  198. Benjamin Lim
  199. 5:15pm
  200. Benjamin Lim
  201. that requires a frontend?
  202. you still want it in 2 months
  203.  
  204. Shubham Goyal
  205. 5:15pm
  206. Shubham Goyal
  207. Forget about 2 months
  208. That is only an admin requirement I have to fulfil
  209. Because you will be paid by MindLinc
  210. If you like the project, you will still be working on it when you are in Singapore, right? smile emoticon
  211. It does require a frontend, yes.
  212. frown emoticon
  213.  
  214. Benjamin Lim
  215. 5:17pm
  216. Benjamin Lim
  217. so basically
  218. you're outsourcing the entire survey system to me
  219.  
  220. Shubham Goyal
  221. 5:17pm
  222. Shubham Goyal
  223. Facepalm
  224.  
  225. Benjamin Lim
  226. 5:17pm
  227. Benjamin Lim
  228. don't facepalm
  229. i know nuts about deployment
  230. and i gotta pick up all that in 2 months
  231. you can say ignore that, but you started with that expectation
  232.  
  233. Shubham Goyal
  234. 5:18pm
  235. Shubham Goyal
  236. Dude, I told you forget about the timeline and about delivering
  237.  
  238. Benjamin Lim
  239. 5:18pm
  240. Benjamin Lim
  241. how is that anywhere close to being reasonable
  242.  
  243. Shubham Goyal
  244. 5:18pm
  245. Shubham Goyal
  246. Okay, so Fogbugz and you pick up whatever you like?
  247. You can estimate the time, the US guys will help you understand any bug you would like to know more about
  248.  
  249. Benjamin Lim
  250. 5:19pm
  251. Benjamin Lim
  252. yeah, they have the time on top of firefighting
  253.  
  254. Shubham Goyal
  255. 5:19pm
  256. Shubham Goyal
  257. But the time and deliverables will be defined by you smile emoticon
  258. Lol if you help them fix problems, they would love to invest time
  259.  
  260. Benjamin Lim
  261. 5:20pm
  262. Benjamin Lim
  263. i've had enough 'fun' 'maintaining' legacy code at easilydo
  264.  
  265. Shubham Goyal
  266. 5:21pm
  267. Shubham Goyal
  268. When do you return to Singapore suppose MindLinc doesn't have any work you like for you?
  269. In Singapore, we use modern frameworks. You won't be responsible for anything alone and you will be working win lots of awesome people
  270. Maybe that is better? smile emoticon
  271.  
  272. Benjamin Lim
  273. 5:22pm
  274. Benjamin Lim
  275. real cool
  276.  
  277. Shubham Goyal
  278. 5:22pm
  279. Shubham Goyal
  280. The other option is data science at MindLinc
  281. Nawal and investors will not sign on to the migration project
  282. because apparently why fix anything that works
  283. Sigh
  284. I got this in clear terms yesterday
  285. They want to do this when they have an anchor client
  286. who pays for the upgrade
  287. and becomes an equity partner
  288. If you are wondering why I propose different projects, this is the reason
  289. And they do not seem to be too happy that you will
  290. be spending only one month in Durham. That is why I wanted to define something that can be finished in 2 months.
  291.  
  292. Benjamin Lim
  293. 5:25pm
  294. Benjamin Lim
  295. okay then
  296. find someone else!
  297.  
  298. Shubham Goyal
  299. 5:25pm
  300. Shubham Goyal
  301. I was actually trying to still engage you because you are awesome.
  302.  
  303. Benjamin Lim
  304. 5:25pm
  305. Benjamin Lim
  306. like really
  307.  
  308. Shubham Goyal
  309. 5:25pm
  310. Shubham Goyal
  311. Sigh...okay
  312.  
  313. Benjamin Lim
  314. 5:25pm
  315. Benjamin Lim
  316. i don't wanna be the scapegoat
  317.  
  318. Shubham Goyal
  319. 5:26pm
  320. Shubham Goyal
  321. You are not a scapegoat man
  322.  
  323. Benjamin Lim
  324. 5:26pm
  325. Benjamin Lim
  326. look
  327. if they aren't happy about the deal
  328.  
  329. Shubham Goyal
  330. 5:26pm
  331. Shubham Goyal
  332. That is the wrong reason you are giving yourself smile emoticon
  333.  
  334. Benjamin Lim
  335. 5:26pm
  336. Benjamin Lim
  337. like i said
  338. i only want a fair deal
  339. i want a win win situation
  340. i don't want to strongarm anyone
  341. i don't want to overpromise
  342. you just keep changing your terms
  343. this is so disappointing
  344. gotta be an investor
  345. i can ask for the moon too
  346. i'm no cure all
  347. sorry
  348.  
  349. Shubham Goyal
  350. 5:29pm
  351. Shubham Goyal
  352. Man, you seem to be really angry with me. I do not want you to be on the losing end. Whether you believe it or not, I do somehow care for you. But I have limitations. I do not control the money. I am happy to define any project that helps MindLinc even a little bit that you are comfortable with. Or work with us in Singapore.
  353.  
  354. Shubham Goyal
  355. 5:30pm
  356. Shubham Goyal
  357. I am sorry, I would love to rebuild MindLinc on a Unix-y stack, but I do not sign the cheques. I had a very long argument yesterday.
  358.  
  359. Benjamin Lim
  360. 5:31pm
  361. Benjamin Lim
  362. not the first time you went back on your word
  363. last summer
  364. i was supposed to get a full time salary
  365. that changed to a bonus
  366. that i didn't get in the end
  367.  
  368. Shubham Goyal
  369. 5:34pm
  370. Shubham Goyal
  371. if nawal did tell you about the bonus, I will raise this and you will get it. If I did, please allow me to pay you the remainder now. I do not remember honestly but I value our friendship enough. I would love to pay what is fair and be back on good terms.
  372.  
  373. Benjamin Lim
  374. 5:35pm
  375. Benjamin Lim
  376. honestly
  377. i don't think anyone will get a good deal out of this
  378.  
  379. Today
  380. Benjamin Lim
  381. 11:32pm
  382. Benjamin Lim
  383. hey
  384. wanna talk?
  385.  
  386. Shubham Goyal
  387. 11:33pm
  388. Shubham Goyal
  389. hey man
  390. sure
  391. what's up? smile emoticon
  392.  
  393. Benjamin Lim
  394. 11:33pm
  395. Benjamin Lim
  396. call?
  397.  
  398. Shubham Goyal
  399. 11:33pm
  400. Shubham Goyal
  401. you woke up?
  402.  
  403. Benjamin Lim
  404. 11:33pm
  405. Benjamin Lim
  406. yes
  407.  
  408. Shubham Goyal
  409. 11:33pm
  410. Shubham Goyal
  411. lol were you tired yesterday? tongue emoticon
  412. can I call you in a couple of hours?
  413. or will you be at work then?
  414.  
  415. Benjamin Lim
  416. 11:34pm
  417. Benjamin Lim
  418. why does this have to wait?
  419. no i wasn't tired
  420.  
  421. Shubham Goyal
  422. 11:35pm
  423. Shubham Goyal
  424. I am at someone else's home
  425. Never mind
  426. Skype?
  427. or here? smile emoticon
  428.  
  429. Benjamin Lim
  430. 11:35pm
  431. Benjamin Lim
  432. we can talk here
  433.  
  434. Shubham Goyal
  435. 11:35pm
  436. Shubham Goyal
  437. okie like emoticon
  438. should I call you?
  439. or you wanna type? smile emoticon
  440.  
  441. Benjamin Lim
  442. 11:37pm
  443. Benjamin Lim
  444. what we can do is
  445. you add me to fogbugz
  446.  
  447. Shubham Goyal
  448. 11:38pm
  449. Shubham Goyal
  450. okay, what e-mail id? smile emoticon
  451.  
  452. Benjamin Lim
  453. 11:38pm
  454. Benjamin Lim
  455. wait
  456.  
  457. Shubham Goyal
  458. 11:38pm
  459. Shubham Goyal
  460. blym?
  461.  
  462. Benjamin Lim
  463. 11:38pm
  464. Benjamin Lim
  465. i'm not done yet
  466.  
  467. Shubham Goyal
  468. 11:38pm
  469. Shubham Goyal
  470. kk
  471.  
  472. Benjamin Lim
  473. 11:38pm
  474. Benjamin Lim
  475. i cannot commit to a timeline
  476. even the most seasoned of engineers can't
  477. i'll start off fixing bugs and familiarising with the workflow and codebase and business logic
  478. let me understand the requirements first
  479. before i agree to working on the survey system
  480. if nawal and investors are not happy with that
  481. i sincerely wish you the best of luck in finding someone who's happy to take this on
  482. i think i'm selling myself short here
  483. all i'll say is i'll try my best
  484.  
  485. Shubham Goyal
  486. 11:43pm
  487. Shubham Goyal
  488. That sounds good. I never wanted to impose a timeline on you. I just wanted to propose a project for 2 months so that I can justify hiring you. I really want you to be involved again because you are really smart. I understand it is usual for engineering projects to last much longer than anticipated. Even NASA has made this mistake lol
  489.  
  490. Benjamin Lim
  491. 11:44pm
  492. Benjamin Lim
  493. then you should explain this to them
  494. not to me
  495.  
  496. Shubham Goyal
  497. 11:44pm
  498. Shubham Goyal
  499. And no one will hold you to the timeline smile emoticon All we can hope for is for you to try your best.
  500.  
  501. Benjamin Lim
  502. 11:45pm
  503. Benjamin Lim
  504. look
  505. i understand the need for deadlines
  506. but let's start with something that's clearly defined
  507. and manageable
  508.  
  509. Shubham Goyal
  510. 11:46pm
  511. Shubham Goyal
  512. that is what I wanted to do because you expressed that the entire project might be unmanageable and too much tongue emoticon But you got angry at me frown emoticon
  513. okay, let me try from a new slate
  514.  
  515. Benjamin Lim
  516. 11:47pm
  517. Benjamin Lim
  518. who wouldn't be angry?
  519. put yourself in my shoes man
  520.  
  521. Shubham Goyal
  522. 11:47pm
  523. Shubham Goyal
  524. I understand, it was a mistake to send the project description they sent me.
  525. Even I have never used half of the shit mentioned there
  526. which e-mail id should I use?
  527.  
  528. Benjamin Lim
  529. 11:48pm
  530. Benjamin Lim
  531. [email protected]
  532. carrying on
  533. money
  534. now
  535. and
  536. i want to know how accommodation is being handled
  537.  
  538. Shubham Goyal
  539. 11:50pm
  540. Shubham Goyal
  541. David is going to stay in 21C hotel till we can rent an apartment. You could do the same. It is the best hotel in Durham.
  542.  
  543. Benjamin Lim
  544. 11:50pm
  545. Benjamin Lim
  546. i don't literally mean now now
  547. i just want to know what timeframe
  548. because let's not drag this any more
  549.  
  550. Shubham Goyal
  551. 11:51pm
  552. Shubham Goyal
  553. We can start as soon as we can decide on a project to help us out on because that is what I need to officially hire you.
  554.  
  555. Benjamin Lim
  556. 11:51pm
  557. Benjamin Lim
  558. who's paying for the hotel
  559.  
  560. Shubham Goyal
  561. 11:51pm
  562. Shubham Goyal
  563. us
  564. not you
  565. upset emoticon
  566.  
  567. Benjamin Lim
  568. 11:51pm
  569. Benjamin Lim
  570. ok
  571. so when can i expect to start
  572. and when can i expect to see the money
  573. and should i book flights
  574. and hotel
  575. and stuffs
  576.  
  577. Shubham Goyal
  578. 11:52pm
  579. Shubham Goyal
  580. as soon as you can define a project
  581. I am adding you
  582.  
  583. Benjamin Lim
  584. 11:52pm
  585. Benjamin Lim
  586. what do you mean define a project
  587.  
  588. Shubham Goyal
  589. 11:52pm
  590. Shubham Goyal
  591. I mean define what you would want to do
  592.  
  593. Benjamin Lim
  594. 11:52pm
  595. Benjamin Lim
  596. i already said
  597. i'll start off fixing bugs and familiarising with the workflow and codebase and business logic
  598. let me understand the requirements first
  599. before i agree to working on the survey system
  600.  
  601. Shubham Goyal
  602. 11:53pm
  603. Shubham Goyal
  604. as soon as you start fixing bugs, like download the code and stuff we can flag this off
  605.  
  606. Benjamin Lim
  607. 11:53pm
  608. Benjamin Lim
  609. why
  610.  
  611. Shubham Goyal
  612. 11:53pm
  613. Shubham Goyal
  614. but give me at least 2 days after that to tell Nawal and investors and get formal approval
  615.  
  616. Benjamin Lim
  617. 11:54pm
  618. Benjamin Lim
  619. you get formal approval, before i start
  620.  
  621. Shubham Goyal
  622. 11:54pm
  623. Shubham Goyal
  624. lol man, now see things from my point of view upset emoticon
  625. How do I justify hiring you for only 2 months when there is no clarity on what you will be working on as well?
  626. out of the 2 months, only 1 month is in Durham frown emoticon
  627.  
  628. Benjamin Lim
  629. 11:55pm
  630. Benjamin Lim
  631. um
  632. find someone else then?
  633.  
  634. Shubham Goyal
  635. 11:55pm
  636. Shubham Goyal
  637. okay frown emoticon
  638.  
  639. Benjamin Lim
  640. 11:55pm
  641. Benjamin Lim
  642. i think i've been reasonable
  643.  
  644. Shubham Goyal
  645. 11:56pm
  646. Shubham Goyal
  647. I am not saying you haven't been
  648.  
  649. Benjamin Lim
  650. 11:56pm
  651. Benjamin Lim
  652. oh please
  653.  
  654. Shubham Goyal
  655. 11:56pm
  656. Shubham Goyal
  657. but I do not control the money
  658.  
  659. Benjamin Lim
  660. 11:56pm
  661. Benjamin Lim
  662. don't give me that crap
  663. just like nawal
  664.  
  665. Shubham Goyal
  666. 11:56pm
  667. Shubham Goyal
  668. lol
  669.  
  670. Benjamin Lim
  671. 11:56pm
  672. Benjamin Lim
  673. my pay is not indicative of my value
  674.  
  675. Shubham Goyal
  676. 11:56pm
  677. Shubham Goyal
  678. if you want to compare me with him, I don't have anything to say smile emoticon
  679.  
  680. Benjamin Lim
  681. 11:56pm
  682. Benjamin Lim
  683. i walked in february
  684. i can walk again
  685. i cannot promise you anything
  686. you can ask deen to
  687. if he'll be party to this nonsense
  688.  
  689. Shubham Goyal
  690. 11:57pm
  691. Shubham Goyal
  692. what nonsense? frown emoticon
  693.  
  694. Benjamin Lim
  695. 11:58pm
  696. Benjamin Lim
  697. How do I justify hiring you for only 2 months when there is no clarity on what you will be working on as well?
  698. how is there no clarity?
  699. there's an issue tracker right?
  700. i'll be fixing bugs right?
  701. do you really think anyone can waltz in
  702. and be productive from day one?
  703. i'm sorry i can't meet your expectations
  704.  
  705. Shubham Goyal
  706. 11:59pm
  707. Shubham Goyal
  708. I am not asking you to be productive from day one. I said we can start from the day you start looking at the code and working
  709.  
  710. Benjamin Lim
  711. 11:59pm
  712. Benjamin Lim
  713. i can start right away
  714.  
  715. Shubham Goyal
  716. 11:59pm
  717. Shubham Goyal
  718. It's fine man smile emoticon
  719.  
  720. Benjamin Lim
  721. 11:59pm
  722. Benjamin Lim
  723. how hard is that to get
  724.  
  725. Shubham Goyal
  726. 11:59pm
  727. Shubham Goyal
  728. I don't think it will work out too. You were different earlier smile emoticon
  729. I am sorry for wasting your time.
  730.  
  731. Benjamin Lim
  732. 12:00am
  733. Benjamin Lim
  734. okay
  735. i tried
  736.  
  737. Shubham Goyal
  738. 12:00am
  739. Shubham Goyal
  740. You take everything I say wrongly smile emoticon
  741.  
  742. Benjamin Lim
  743. 12:00am
  744. Benjamin Lim
  745. yep
  746. totally did
  747. feel free to talk to more people
  748. and see what others think
  749.  
  750. Shubham Goyal
  751. 12:01am
  752. Shubham Goyal
  753. Of course, you can' start fixing bugs right away man
  754. *can't
  755. That is why I said, download the code lol
  756.  
  757. Benjamin Lim
  758. 12:02am
  759. Benjamin Lim
  760. i'm not wasting any more time until you get approval from nawal and i see money
  761.  
  762. Shubham Goyal
  763. 12:02am
  764. Shubham Goyal
  765. okay, good luck man, I really mean it smile emoticon
  766. I do not want to proceed. As awesome as you are, you do not trust me. And for this to work, I really need that.
  767. So maybe not the right fit anymore smile emoticon
  768.  
  769. Benjamin Lim
  770. 12:03am
  771. Benjamin Lim
  772. i do not trust you
  773. because of every thing that has happened to date
  774. i've stated my requirements very clearly
  775. since day 1
  776. i've told you and nawal what i can offer
  777. i've given you the dates
  778. and now you want me to start working
  779. when you haven't delivered on a single promise
  780. and again
  781. i've already said that i'm willing to walk if nobody gets a fair deal out of this
  782. that's up to you to decide now
  783.  
  784. Shubham Goyal
  785. 12:07am
  786. Shubham Goyal
  787. I do not want to waste more of your time smile emoticon I am sorry if I have so far. If I can meet your requirements, I will contact you smile emoticon
  788.  
  789. Benjamin Lim
  790. 12:07am
  791. Benjamin Lim
  792. sure
  793. you drag this any further
  794. you pay for flights back too
  795. good luck in your search
  796.  
  797. Shubham Goyal
  798. 12:08am
  799. Shubham Goyal
  800. thank you smile emoticon Same to you in everything you do grin emoticon
  801.  
  802. Benjamin Lim
  803. 12:08am
  804. Benjamin Lim
  805. and do your thing yeah
  806. post it on facebook
  807.  
  808. Shubham Goyal
  809. 12:08am
  810. Shubham Goyal
  811. I won't
  812.  
  813. Benjamin Lim
  814. 12:08am
  815. Benjamin Lim
  816. why not
  817. just do it
  818. and see what people say
  819.  
  820. Shubham Goyal
  821. 12:08am
  822. Shubham Goyal
  823. You are free to post man
  824.  
  825. Benjamin Lim
  826. 12:09am
  827. Benjamin Lim
  828. i don't have a point to prove
  829. i'm not the one who goes around posting things like this
  830.  
  831. Shubham Goyal
  832. 12:09am
  833. Shubham Goyal
  834. I am also not trying to prove anything
  835.  
  836. Benjamin Lim
  837. 12:09am
  838. Benjamin Lim
  839. you do
  840.  
  841. Shubham Goyal
  842. 12:09am
  843. Shubham Goyal
  844. I deleted that
  845. I am sorry for posting without asking you
  846. that one time
  847. I apologized then too
  848. what would you have me do?
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