Lesta Nediam LNC2016-06-20 0535 MrSkypelessons

Lesta Nediam LNC2016-06-20 0535 MrSkypelessons
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MrSkypelessons __ Да, мне тоже казалось, что он говорит хороший. Я все понимаю. Но, у меня когда-то жил попугай и он отзывался на кличку "Крис Хэдфилд" (ну, простите, это было давно и неправда.)


Are we listening to people or parrots? Do we hear anything spoken that cannot be repeated by a beginner or a clever parrot?


"Chris Hadfield" appears to speak Russian the best but admittedly he is more talented than the others (he is my second favourite "astronaut" after "Scott Kelly"!). I believe "Chris Hadfield" actually speaks French so with languages he can seem far more convincing (he knows what is needed). Then again, "Chris Hadfield" is Canadian and a Canadian speaking French? Is that unheard of?!


That is why I contrasted the clear and confident speech of "Chris Hadfield" recorded in a controlled situation with a situation that's more "on the spot" (sort of). At least - if the "ISS" is real *and manned* - then the "command handover ritual" must be done in a single take - meaning it is a more "genuine" situation for showing off the language skills of an "astronaut".


Of course - if the alleged "ISS" is not real and manned - then his weak performance "on the spot" [there were plenty of pauses / "brain freeze"] *could be due to a limitation of the trick* - but this video and my reply to you is not about that - _it's about the exaggeration of their Russian proficiency._


(For does not every child grow up to believe "astronauts" are amazing in every way?! I did.)


My central point is that we are supposed to believe that these "astronauts" spend many years learning Russian. What have they got to show for it?! Apparently it is a "requirement" to learn Russian to be in a "Soyuz" [makes sense!] and apparently they tell us they receive "all of their instruction" from Russia in Russian. _I'd love to see that classroom setting!_


By now I have watched hundreds of "ISS" videos and all I have come across by way of Russian (by the English speakers) is just one or two words that are [to any beginner] easily pronounced.


There is no demonstration of any real proficiency. That's my point. Everything can be found in the first chapter or two of a "Teach Yourself Russian" book that comes with a CD!


I understand that if a person utters the "right sounds" of one's native language it can seem as though that person speaks it. And so really - _without anything additional_ - it's a bit like assuming a parrot can speak because it too can make the right sounds!


As someone who will forever be learning Russian - i.e., as a native English speaker learning Russian (трудно изучать русский язык и я мечтаю, что я смогу когда-нибудь сказать "я *выучил* русский язык!") - I have a sense for when a native English speaker is just "faking it"/"winging it" by "making the right sounds" (like a parrot).


From having watched a lot of "ISS" videos and paid attention to those moments when the English-speaking "astronauts" try to speak Russian - (as I say - it's never more than one or two easily pronounced words) that's the impression I get. And I have seen nothing to contradict it.


So I think it is a myth that the "astronauts" all go and learn Russian. Ну ладно!


Спасибо за просмотр и комментарий.


P.S. Извините меня за мой русский, просто я из другой страны _и я не космонавтом!_


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