(7:35 PM) Kaworu:	Smochi.
(7:35 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Hello.
(7:36 PM) Kaworu:	Right - enough small talk.
(7:36 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You wanted an apology.
(7:37 PM) Kaworu:	Arantir, our de facto mediary, had indicated as such.
(7:37 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I wish you mentioned it while we were actually discussing it instead of hiding it, if it bothered you enough to actually hurt you, then I apologize.
(7:38 PM) Kaworu:	Thank you. But during the discussions, things had almost reached a fever pitch. I had become irrational, and felt compelled to refuse to back down on any stance.
(7:39 PM) Kaworu:	Thank you, Smochi. That means a lot. And furthermore - I may have said it before, but I will repeat it for emphasis - I apologize for my mistakes in revealing things to Yuri. I had misinterpreted both his motives, and the present state of our discussions, and that led me to be at fault.
(7:39 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Don't apologize to me.
(7:39 PM) Kaworu:	Oh?
(7:39 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You should be apologizing to Hagu.
For letting this happen in the first place.
(7:40 PM) Kaworu:	I will, when she is online.
(7:40 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You fully knew that I was simply repeating what others said of her.
And that my own personal analsis was that she was rather weak minded because she's too nice of a person.
(7:40 PM) Kaworu:	That much, you have my assurances - if that is enough for you to be reassured.
(7:40 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Yet for some reason, you insisted on analyzing the whole situation as me having something against Hagu.
(7:41 PM) Kaworu:	This I have already acknowledged as a mistake.
(7:41 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I tried to discuss it with Hagu, you know.
(7:41 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	But I received something I would normally expect from Boxer of Flapjack.
(7:41 PM) Kaworu:	She is not pleased with the present situation.
(7:41 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Tahat being, she had no idea what we were supposed to be talking about.
that*
(7:41 PM) Kaworu:	She had no idea that these profoundly negative opinions existed.
(7:42 PM) Kaworu:	Perhaps your discussion of them could be misinterpreted as a negative attack.
(7:42 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Here. Since Wodan is the only person that's ballsy enough to put his name on his complaints.
(7:42 PM) Kaworu:	I am not accusing, just stating.
Oh, I'm talking to him too - making amends on every end possible.
(7:42 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	wodan_ymir@cleavesevil.com (E-mail address not verified) says (2:09 PM):
*or well any instance of that happening
*but the other two are correct
*and if it comes up you can slap my name on these complaints, i dont give a fuck. i dont want to keep hiding like everyone else does
(7:43 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	wodan_ymir@cleavesevil.com (E-mail address not verified) says (2:31 PM):
*(12:50 PM) Yuri:        you're making up things that dont exist
there's never been a problem
*YEAH THIS IS WHY HALF THE CHAT LEFT
*ONE WEEK
*THERE AREN'T AND THERE NEVER HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS
wodan_ymir@cleavesevil.com (E-mail address not verified) says (2:44 PM):
*(12:55 PM) Hagu:        You know what? Yeah. I do like some people more than others. And I may talk about others. The same as everyone else does?
*god really
wodan_ymir@cleavesevil.com (E-mail address not verified) says (2:45 PM):
*you know what, lots of people do their fucking best not to talk about people behind their backs
*sometimes, they fail
*BUT AT THE VERY FUCKING LEAST PEOPLE TRY NOT TO TALK SHIT ABOUT THEM
It goes and and on.
(7:43 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Yuri thinks I forged these complaints.
Yeah, because I enjoy forging complaints about people I consider as friends, right?
(7:44 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I don't think realizes how insulting this implication is.
he realizes*
(7:44 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	But hey, apparently I forged the logs between me and him that one time as well.
(7:44 PM) Kaworu:	EMotions rapidly color our perceptions of events. I can recall banal conversations which seemed lovely because of a good mood, and we see the converse is true here.
(7:45 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	So tell me Kaworu. Do you think I allowed me emotions to interfere with how this situation was supposed to be carried out?
(7:45 PM) Kaworu:	Yes.
(7:45 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Do explain.
(7:45 PM) Kaworu:	At least, from the limited data I have had here.
(7:48 PM) Kaworu:	Our conversation earlier today, you seemed to be ... furious. Granted, with some reason. But your points went too far. I was too affected by them to talk reasonably and directly.
I realize I am digressing, to an extent, but I must make this as clear as possible. I emphatically will not tolerate any personal attacks regarding the sensitive topics of my sexuality and mental illness. It is too far.
(7:48 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Now here is the misunderstanding.
(7:48 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Because you perceivd me to be furious, you thought I had a personal grudge against Hagu.
(7:48 PM) Kaworu:	Not that.
(7:48 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	These observations can't be any more wrong.
(7:48 PM) Kaworu:	You were attacking me personally.
I was not going after that relationship.
(7:48 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I attacked you personally when I saw how you fucked everything up.
By bringing it up to YUri.
(7:49 PM) Kaworu:	I thought were you insulting me to get the point.
(7:49 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Perhaps you'll disagree, perhaps you won't.
But it was deserved.
(7:49 PM) Kaworu:	Yes. I have acknowledge that as a mistake.
(7:49 PM) Kaworu:	And I will emphatically disagree.
(7:49 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And that was the only time I actually insulted you.
Oh, that and calling you a pussy for avoiding confrontations.
(7:49 PM) Kaworu:	That too.
I must request an apology for that.
(7:49 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	These, however.
(7:50 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Have nothing to do with me describing Hagu.
(7:50 PM) Kaworu:	However, I am willing to discuss the rest of your points.
(7:50 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	For the first half of the discussion.
I didn't really have an emotion to begin with.
(7:50 PM) Kaworu:	I thought I did too.
(7:50 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I stated a problem, I provided the evidence that warrants for the problems to be fixed.
I was about to propose a solution, and then you went to lunch.
(7:50 PM) Kaworu:	Yes.
(7:51 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	After that, I was slightly annoyed that you revealed it to Yuri.
(7:51 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	But that was pretty much the only emotion involved throughout the entire conversation that followed.
(7:51 PM) Kaworu:	Yes.
(7:51 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I attempted to resolve things by talking it out.
You disagreed, apparently.
(7:51 PM) Kaworu:	And it was at this point that the situation degenerated on all fronts.
(7:51 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Just on your end, I'm afraid.
(7:52 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I was trying to talk it out, and then you somehow felt the need to leave /a/chat.
Because you screwed up somehow.
(7:52 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Cut contact, etcetc.
(7:52 PM) Kaworu:	Yes.
Let me say
(7:52 PM) Kaworu:	(1) I had misjudged your reaction to this. (2) I had misjudged what I had done. Of course, it was a mistake, but I felt that it was something so grievous that I could not bear to go to /a/chat again.
(7:53 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And this is when I tell you.
I won't apologize to you for being a pussy.
Because you need to stop being one.
(7:53 PM) Kaworu:	Then we are finished.
I will not continue this discussion further.
(7:53 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I'm going to stand by my word. If something is bothering you, say it.
(7:53 PM) Kaworu:	You want me to stop? Here you go.
This is bothering me.
Now.
(7:53 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Kaworu.
It's a problem.
(7:53 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Not clearly stating what's bothering you.
(7:54 PM) Kaworu:	Yes. And I will start now.
(7:54 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You wanting to avoid confrontation to fix things.
(7:54 PM) Kaworu:	I agree with you. I still think things can be solved other than by means of confrontation, in the way you define it.
(7:54 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Thank you.
(7:54 PM) Kaworu:	But I must start now.
(7:54 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Of course.
(7:54 PM) Kaworu:	You will apologize for calling me that.
Then we can continue to discuss the situation.
(7:54 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I'm sorry for calling you one, but you really were.
(7:54 PM) Kaworu:	That doesn't count.
(7:54 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And nothing will change the fact that you were being one.
(7:55 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And it's the most annoying attribute about you.
(7:55 PM) Kaworu:	Let me consider an example - and one I emphatically do not mean - Your mother is a cunt. I'm sorry, but she really is one.
Or are you trying to make a point here?
(7:55 PM) Kaworu:	If you are, pleaes continue.
(7:55 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Would you disagree with my accusation then?
(7:56 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I'll word it in a different way, then.
(7:56 PM) Kaworu:	I think just by disagreeing with it, I may be disproving it.
(7:56 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I apologize for my choice in words.
(7:56 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Stop running away from things like a little girl.
(7:56 PM) Kaworu:	That's still not helping.
(7:56 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Stop avoiding direct confrontations?
(7:56 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Because it's a problem and it needs to stop.
(7:56 PM) Kaworu:	Another digression - Smochi, have you considered joining the foreign service? You give no ground at all in discussions.
(7:57 PM) Kaworu:	Ah, I'm getting beside the point.
(7:57 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Kaworu. I'm trying to say that you running away from things. Just like what you did earlier when I tried to address things. Just like what you did by not directly telling me the whole insult-joke was hurting you.
Is a problem.
(7:57 PM) Kaworu:	Direct confrontations are not always the solution to problems. At least, in the sense that you define them. I am willing to discuss things in private and resolve issues.
That is fine.
(7:57 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	That.
(7:58 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	IS the direct confrontation.
(7:58 PM) Kaworu:	Well
It seems that we suffer merely from a disagreement in terms.
I would agree in the benefits of direct discussion to solve problems.
(7:58 PM) Kaworu:	Confrontation implies something more heated, and emotional.
(7:59 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	con·fron·ta·tion
   [kon-fruhn-tey-shuhn, -fruhn-] Show IPA
noun
1.
an act of confronting.
2.
the state of being confronted.
3.
a meeting of persons face to face.
4.
an open conflict of opposing ideas, forces, etc.
5.
a bringing together of ideas, themes, etc., for comparison.
(7:59 PM) Kaworu:	Well, then, let us settle for 3 and 5.
(7:59 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	4 as well.
Now Kaworu.
(7:59 PM) Kaworu:	These are valid.
(7:59 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Now that we have cleared up this particular terminology.
(8:00 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	How would you plead when I say you're fond of running away from confrontations?
(8:01 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Again, I apologize for calling you a pussy, but that's the one term that perfectly conveys how you act at certain times.
(8:01 PM) Kaworu:	I agree that I had been guilty of such conduct. However - I am actively working on discussion as a means to resolve conflict.
Case 1: Rance being openly racist and homophobic, thus making some members of chat uncomfortable. I directly told him to stop, and he did.
Case 2: On the board of /a/ itself. I asked the spammer what I had done wrong (cont.)
(8:02 PM) Kaworu:	So I directly asked him why. He stopped.
(8:02 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	If you're making an effort to change it, then that's perfectly fine.
(8:02 PM) Kaworu:	So you withdraw your previous insults and descriptions?
(8:02 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I won't ask you to try to change it, because you clearly are already.
(8:02 PM) Kaworu:	It is a flaw, but a flaw I am working to treat.
(8:02 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	However. That description still does apply, and until you stop doing it completely, it will continue to be the case.
(8:03 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	If you take a personal offense to it.
I apologize.
(8:03 PM) Kaworu:	Thank you.
(8:03 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I can't lie by saying you aren't one though.
(8:04 PM) Kaworu:	Can you allow for the fact that I am aiming to improve myself from this fault?
Or not?
(8:04 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Of course.
And I acknowledge it.
(8:04 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Forgive these next few terms that may bother you.
(8:04 PM) Kaworu:	Thank you. I think, in order to best convince you, you would need to see me directly confront someone.
(8:04 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You're a pussy, but you're trying your best not to be one.
(8:04 PM) Kaworu:	That is unacceptable. One wonders if you want just to call me a pussy.
(8:05 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	So classifying you as a pussy is wrong, then?
(8:05 PM) Kaworu:	Yes.
I will contest that.
(8:05 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Okay, now here's where it gets tricky.
You were one just few hours ago.
(8:06 PM) Kaworu:	Well, here is something that seems like an excuse
(8:06 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	If you want to stop calling you by that term entirely.
(8:06 PM) Kaworu:	But I will say it anyway.
I leave for college tomorrow.
(8:06 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I won't mention it again.
(8:06 PM) Kaworu:	I was unable to discuss with any person
Because I spent the majority of my day packing.
I refused to let things interfere with something of such importance.
However, now that everything is in the car
(8:06 PM) Kaworu:	I am at liberty to resolve this.
(8:07 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Oh yes - a few last statements before i go.
1) I admit to all of your accusations.
2) Based on this, I shall leave /a/chat immediately and will not trouble you any further. There, you will be free to go after me as you wish.
3) If anyone asks, I give you liberty to tell your whole side of the story, and that of my omissions.
I am a wholly irrational person, and have abused the trust of all here.
And then you blocked/left.
(8:07 PM) Kaworu:	I had not left out of a sense of fleeing from the argument, but  because (1) I had more pressing matters and (2) I had to consider where to go next.
I chose that, frankly, in order to make you leave me alone for a while.
(8:07 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	So being a pussy then.
(8:08 PM) Kaworu:	Must you use that word every time?
(8:08 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Do you have a better word?
coward?
(8:08 PM) Kaworu:	Let's settle for indecisive.
(8:08 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Far from it.
(8:08 PM) Kaworu:	Sufficiently damning...? Or what?
(8:08 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Look.
(8:09 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You went to the extent of taking an irrational and a needless step, and that was retiring from/a/chat.
(8:09 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	It's far from indecisive.
Am I wrong?
(8:09 PM) Kaworu:	Yes. Because of your repeated insults preventing me from acting in a more rational manner.
(8:09 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I only instuled you two or three times.
(8:09 PM) Kaworu:	But when you do, you make it count.
(8:09 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Of course.
I don't know.
How about this.
"Grow a pair."
(8:10 PM) Kaworu:	You are not helping your case, Smochi.
(8:10 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You need to "grow a pair" is still bad?
(8:10 PM) Kaworu:	I asked for an apology and a peaceful discussion of terms, and you insist upon doing this.
(8:10 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You're the one that can't seem to handle the fact that I'm categorizing you in such a way.
If it bothers, you I'll stop.
(8:10 PM) Kaworu:	It is borthering me.
(8:10 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	However, just know that that's how you've been categorized.
(8:10 PM) Kaworu:	bothering* me.
Stop.
(8:10 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	But at the same time.
(8:11 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I acknowledge the fact that you're trying to change it.
(8:11 PM) Kaworu:	Damn your categorizations, I'm not going to listen to you do this any further.
(8:11 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Therefore me calling you a pussy would be an incorrect thing to do.
(8:11 PM) Kaworu:	So
Because of your rational nature, stop calling me a pussy.
(8:11 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I'll stop, of course.
As to see how I' see you, that's a different story until you can prove me otherwise 100%.
(8:11 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I want to make this clear, Kaworu.
If you do anything that resembles the term "pussy"
(8:12 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I don't have a choice but to associate you with that erm.
term*
(8:12 PM) Kaworu:	Well I admit how I appear to other people is hardly the greatest of my concerns at the moment.
You are not helping.
Your mother is a cunt. I'm sorry, she isn't, but I'll call her that anyways.
(8:12 PM) Kaworu:	She's working on not being a cunt.
I know this is not a direct analogy.
(8:12 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Well for one, I don't know which act classifies as being a cunt.
(8:12 PM) Kaworu:	But I am trying vainly to understand how this thought process appears.
(8:13 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	It's more like this.
You acted in a way that would label you as such.
You're working hard to not be that way.
(8:13 PM) Kaworu:	Yes.
(8:13 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	But if it happens again, that label reappear.
(8:13 PM) Kaworu:	So stop using it until you have direct evidence of me directly doing that now.
Fair?
(8:14 PM) Kaworu:	Yes or no?
(8:14 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I can only go off with what you displayed in the past. What if we said "you have a tendency to be one, but you're trying your best not to be bone"
(8:14 PM) Kaworu:	I just want that.
Yes or no?
(8:14 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	be one*
(8:14 PM) Kaworu:	I had* a tendency to be one.
(8:14 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Had, is it?
I accept your challenge, then.
(8:14 PM) Kaworu:	Had.
And I will rise to it.
(8:15 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I won't see you as a pussy from now on.
Do note, however.
If you display this behavior again,
(8:15 PM) Kaworu:	Of course, I will demonstrate this at nearest opportunity.
(8:15 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Well I don't have to explain it.
(8:15 PM) Kaworu:	And then we start this Sisyphean task again.
So
(8:15 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	There really isn't much to resolve now.
(8:15 PM) Kaworu:	For the sake of a breather
(8:16 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Majority of the people did complain that people should be upfront about what they feel.
(8:16 PM) Kaworu:	Let's recapitulate what we have resolved, and what is left yet to do.
(8:16 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And we fixed that just now.
Also.
(8:16 PM) Kaworu:	Yes?
(8:16 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Hm. Lemme pastebin.
(8:17 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Arantir says (6:55 PM):
*He'd like you to apologize for making fun of him due to mental illness.
Arantir says (6:56 PM):
*It's not one-sided.  I've told him that he needs to apologize for breaking your trust.
Excuse Arantir for his shitty analysis of the situation.
He was driven by his will to resolve this.
(8:18 PM) Kaworu:	He is an outsider, and of course some things will be out of sight.
(8:18 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You didn't "break my trust"
Or anything along those lines.
(8:18 PM) Kaworu:	I percieved that I had done so
(8:18 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You really didn't.
(8:18 PM) Kaworu:	By revealing an inopportune aspect of our conversation to Yuri.
(8:18 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You just acted like a big babby by running away, but that was it.
It didn't really break the trust.
(8:19 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I hope you're aware of what kind of shithole you put me into though.
Because now I have to talk to Emily as well.
(8:19 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Because we all know how Yuri is amazing at describing a situation in an objective manner.
(8:19 PM) Kaworu:	I think it will serve as some measure of alleviating concerns for the majority of /a/chat if I should reappear again.
(8:20 PM) Kaworu:	And I agree - that would sound most difficult.
(8:20 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	What will serve as the alleviating measure?
(8:20 PM) Kaworu:	A sense that the two of us had solved our problems to such an extent
(8:21 PM) Kaworu:	that I have returned to /a/chat.
(8:21 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You're free, I suppose.
I still have a moutain of shit I need to take care of.
(8:21 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Thanks for that, by the way.
(8:21 PM) Kaworu:	What.
?
(8:21 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	This whole nonsense started because you gave your incorrect assumption of how I felt about Hagu to Yuri.
(8:22 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I don't think you realize what kind of a shithole you put me into.
By giving me all this senseless bullshit for me to deal with.
(8:22 PM) Kaworu:	To be fair, I think this sort of situation might have happened eventually if you didn't act.
(8:22 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	No.
Telling hagu that she needs to stop overreacting over misled conclusions was more than necessary.
(8:22 PM) Kaworu:	It is merely a conjecture. But underlying tensions would have happened.
(8:23 PM) Kaworu:	I think that the situation would have degenerated, despite a variety of circumstances.
(8:23 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Kaworu, you're trying to say you didn't fuck up by giving Yuri the logs.
(8:23 PM) Kaworu:	I did say I fucked up. I admitted as much before.
Scroll up.
Let me finish.
(8:23 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Okay, so why are you trying to insist otherwise?
(8:23 PM) Kaworu:	What I am saying is that the underlying tensions beneath some of the relationships on /a/chat
(8:23 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You fucked up and now I have a bunch of senseless bullshit to begin with.
(8:24 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	>begin with
I have to begin to deal with
rather
(8:24 PM) Kaworu:	Might have broken out into open conflict, even if I didn't do something.
(8:24 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	No, Kaworu.
(8:24 PM) Kaworu:	Another circumstances would have done so.
And let me finish!
(8:24 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You went to Yuri and blabbed about it.
(8:24 PM) Kaworu:	You're going to call me a pussy, and not even let me directly talk to you. Let me finish!
(8:24 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You're not being a pussy righ tnow.
(8:24 PM) Kaworu:	Good.
Now.
(8:25 PM) Kaworu:	Let us start with the basic facts.
I'll list them
And you can analyze them.
(8:25 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Actually.
Lemme start first.
(8:25 PM) Kaworu:	(1) I made a mistake by telling Yuri about Hagu.
Oh?
(8:25 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Well.
go ahead
You already started.
(8:26 PM) Kaworu:	(2) There were underlying tensions in /a/chat, regarding these two. You had become aware of this through complaints by Wodan, et al.
(3) The situation was degenerating, and thus, having recieved these complaints, you needed to act upon it.
(8:26 PM) Kaworu:	Actually, hold on.
(8:27 PM) Kaworu:	I'm sorry, but I'm being called away. This really is an inconvenience. I will be back, and I promise (if you believe me) that I will not reveal anything in the meantime.
Excuse me.
(8:27 PM)	Kaworu is now Offline
(8:33 PM) Kaworu:	That was quicker than I had hoped.
Anyways - I was in the middle of something, I will finish, and you can go after my points.
(8:33 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Go for it.
(8:33 PM) Kaworu:	I realize that this is a conjecture.
But.
(8:34 PM) Kaworu:	The underlying tensions - this snarl of mistrust, poor decision making, etc. is like a powder keg.
One spark would set it off.
All agree that it is dangerous.
Yet one unfortunate event would cause the whole thing to erupt into flames.
(8:34 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Are you finished?
(8:35 PM) Kaworu:	No.
(8:35 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Alrighty then.
(8:35 PM) Kaworu:	Let me finish my rough analogy. Then you can go after it.
(8:35 PM) Kaworu:	The whole situation - that is, being surrounded by gunpowder - is inherently dangerous.
(8:35 PM) Kaworu:	One bad move causes a cataclysm.
(8:36 PM) Kaworu:	My inopportune discussion with Yuri
Caused this unfortunate situation for /a/chat and yourself.
(8:36 PM) Kaworu:	I think that is everything I wanted to say. If there is another tangent, I will bring it up.
(8:37 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Okay then.
First of all.
There are two set of events.
I was trying to tell Hagu to watch her overreactions.
(8:37 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And then Hagu was somehow given the malformed version of how I viewed her as a person.
Now.
Telling Hagu to watch her overreactions.
(8:38 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Could not have possibly ended up with her knowing about the awful and incorrect analysis of how If elt about her.
(8:38 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	If A is telling hagu, B is you screwing up, and C being the current shithole I have now.
A skipping B leading to C is an absolute impossibility.
(8:38 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You're responsible, Kaworu.
(8:38 PM) Kaworu:	When she talked to you, she definitely felt confused, at the very least. although - one wonders how she would ahve reacted without this.
(8:38 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	There are no tensions.
I was just telling Hagu to watch it.
(8:38 PM) Kaworu:	Excuse me?
(8:38 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	That's it.
(8:39 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	That was all there is to it.
(8:39 PM) Kaworu:	Hm.
(8:39 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You fucked up majorly by doing that little number with Yuri.
Had you not done it.
It would've been perfectly fine.
(8:39 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	There weren't any tensions.
It would've been just me telling her about it
And her either agreeing or disagreeing.
(8:39 PM) Kaworu:	I would disagree with some points of your premise.
But please continue until you are finished.
(8:40 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	That's it. Your slip up is the direct cause of the plethora of bullshit I have to deal with.
(8:40 PM) Kaworu:	Let me ask you a question.
(8:40 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You argue that my main intention of talking to her about it would've inevitably lead to what we're dealing with now?
(8:40 PM) Kaworu:	In addition to me, Hagu, and Yuri leaving
(8:40 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	That statement can't possibly be more false.
(8:40 PM) Kaworu:	Let me ask you a question.
What sort of bullshit did you have to deal with?
(8:40 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Let's see.
(8:40 PM) Kaworu:	I, having left /a/chat and MSN for a while to pack
(8:40 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Emily left because Yuri is wonderful at relaying what happened.
(8:40 PM) Kaworu:	I did not realize the extent.
(8:40 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And blocked me.
(8:41 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Beacuse Yuri is totally unbiased when it comes to these things.
(8:41 PM) Kaworu:	Well, considering the circumstances, I would agree.
(8:41 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And I still have to talk to Hagu about how I made her cry over stuff I'm not even responsible for.
Agree with what.
Yuri being unbiased?
(8:41 PM) Kaworu:	With Yuri.
Now, I do. I misjudged his reactions wholly, as I had repeatedly said.
(8:41 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Yuri is full retarded when it comes to being unbiased.
(8:41 PM) Kaworu:	You were saying about /a/.
(8:42 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You honestly believe Yuri told Emily the correct version of what happened?
Without bias?
(8:42 PM) Kaworu:	No.
(8:42 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Then we agree.
(8:42 PM) Kaworu:	You were saying about /a/.
(8:42 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	That yuri told emily some retarded version
What about /a/?
(8:42 PM) Kaworu:	The rest of the fallout, shall we put it.
(8:42 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Right, I have to deal with mountains of bullshit.
I have to somehow get Emily to unblock me.
(8:42 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Inform her that Yuri is a massive fucking retard.
(8:43 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And probably show her logs to properly explain what happened
Without including bias.
(8:43 PM) Kaworu:	There is another factor, too - in dealing with the fallout.
(8:44 PM) Kaworu:	I have recieved word, through most of the 'survivors', that most of them are siding with me and Hagu, and Yuri, even after my measurably displeased reaction. Persuading all of them will be much more difficult than first anticipated.
I will assist in trying to bring about an honorable peace with /a/, if I am readmitted.
(8:44 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You weren't banned from /a/chat. You left on your own.
(8:45 PM) Kaworu:	I know.
(8:45 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You can walk back in if you wanted.
Now.
As for these "survivors"
(8:45 PM) Kaworu:	I am still up in the air about going back in, based on the present outcome.
I will not reveal them.
(8:45 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I'd like to know who, because this chat is literally saying the direct opposite.
(8:45 PM) Kaworu:	I will not reveal them.
You will not reveal complaints made to you with trust.
Likewise.
(8:45 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Very well.
Just know.
(8:45 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Your "survivors" appear to be in the minority.
(8:45 PM) Kaworu:	May I have a direct quote?
(8:45 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	sure
(8:46 PM) Kaworu:	However, I would like to add one thing.
(8:47 PM) Kaworu:	Perhaps most of them are agreeing to side with you out of fear. You can be quite forceful when you want to, and I realize that some people are even less desiring of discussing it than I was.
BRB.
(8:47 PM)	Kaworu is now Offline
(9:11 PM) Kaworu:	OK.
Sorry bout that.
(9:11 PM) Kaworu:	Who said that they agreed with you>
(9:11 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Welcome back.
You're welcome to enter the chat and ask them yourself.
(9:12 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Also there really aren't any sides here.
(9:12 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Yuri's apparently trying to create sides.
(9:13 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Also kaworu.
(9:13 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I'm going to restate it. Me telling Hagu to watch the overreaction wouldn't not have in any way led to her somehow finding the shitty malformed analysis of how I "feel" about her.
(9:14 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Once that was said, the so called tension would've been gone.
(9:14 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I kept those complaints private because I didn't think she needed to know.
And that we could slowly work on them.
(9:14 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You're the main reason I have to deal with this waterfall of bullshit right now.
(9:15 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I don't know what stress is like, since I never feel it.
But my head really hurts right now.
(9:15 PM) Kaworu:	Welcome to the club of human beings, Smochi.
Not demigods.
(9:16 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	All this headache is needless.
I just wish you hadn't done it.
(9:16 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	You already apologized for it so there's not much that can be done
I just have to try to solve the nonsense that's going around now.
(9:16 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Is there anything else you'd like to address?
(9:17 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Or have everything been addressed?
(9:17 PM) Kaworu:	I think
Either tomorrow, or the day after
When your headache has subsided, and I am safely in the dorm
(9:18 PM) Kaworu:	We should both apologize for making such a fuss - you for insulting me so harshly, and me for making a horrible mistake.
(9:18 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	It's alright, I've had this headache for a while now.
We can do it now.
(9:19 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	To record a Voice Clip, hold down the button or press F2 while speaking. Release the button to send your message.
(9:19 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I already apologized on my end.
And you already apologized for what you did.
(9:21 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	So is that it?
(9:21 PM) Kaworu:	Ah, I was distracted.
(9:22 PM) Kaworu:	I have some pressing affairs, but I will do it shortly.
(9:22 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Alright.
(9:24 PM) Kaworu:	So
You go first
(9:25 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	We already apologized.
Any reason why we're doing it again?
(9:25 PM) Kaworu:	No
(9:25 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I can do it, but I'm just curious
(9:25 PM) Kaworu:	I was talking about how we do it to /a/chat
(9:25 PM) Kaworu:	Just wanting to resolve that we can put all this behind us
(9:25 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	What about /a/chat?
You're welcome to rejoin.
Nothing has changed.
(9:26 PM) Kaworu:	No
(9:26 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	There's nothing to resolve with /a/chat itself
(9:26 PM) Kaworu:	I meant
(9:26 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	I just have to address specific matters to specific people
(9:26 PM) Kaworu:	wait
(9:26 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And at this point.
I might just leave hagu alone so I can have her hate me, because I'm pretty tired of this
(9:26 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	And go tell Emily a bunch of mean things so I can get her to hate me as well.
And end it easily.
(9:27 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	My patience runs short on people that just abandon a group that's supposed to be a bunch of close friends like it's nothing.
(9:27 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Hagu didn't want to particularly resolve anything.
(9:28 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	She just wanted to call me an insufferable bitch
Emily, well she's pretty misinformed.
And Yuri is Yuri.
(9:28 PM) Kaworu:	Well.
That will be for later.
(9:31 PM) ('.') Smoku McCheese:	Anyways, your part is done for now then.
Feel free to rejoin whenever.