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		Meeting between the Netherlands and France
		Topic set by Saberan on Mon May 16 2011 21:00:44 GMT+0200
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		Meeting between the Netherlands and France - French MoFA : Saberan French Ambassador in the Netherlands MarcDuplessis
		Topic set by Saberan on Mon May 16 2011 21:01:57 GMT+0200
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21:02	broersje	bonsoir
21:03	broersje	D
21:03	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	bonsoir!
21:03	Saberan	Hi I'm French MoFA
21:03	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	broersje : Secretary of Immigration
21:03	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	right?
21:03	Christiaanb94	no
21:03	Christiaanb94	he is VP
21:03	broersje	and VP
21:03	Christiaanb94	or
21:03	Christiaanb94	oh lol
21:03	Christiaanb94
21:03	broersje
21:03	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	ok! ^^
21:03	Christiaanb94	ok broersje,
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21:03	Saberan	Christiaanb94: who are you ?
21:03	Allezski	bosse MarcDuplessis[meeting]
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21:03	Christiaanb94	im MOFA
21:03	Christiaanb94
21:03	Saberan	oh
21:03	Christiaanb94	and former CP
21:04	Christiaanb94	and a experienced player of eNL
21:04	Christiaanb94
21:04	Saberan	so can we begin ?
21:04	Christiaanb94	I am the Netherlands^^
21:04	broersje	wait a moment please
21:04	broersje	1 minute
21:04	broersje	brb
21:04	MarcDuplessis[meeting]
21:04	Saberan	ok
21:05	Christiaanb94	ok we can start
21:05	Christiaanb94	broersje can read it
21:05	Christiaanb94	later
21:05	Saberan	ok
21:05	Christiaanb94	so
21:05	Christiaanb94	your question is
21:05	Christiaanb94	why we think you are traitors
21:06	Christiaanb94	?
21:06	Saberan	yes
21:06	Christiaanb94	well
21:06	Christiaanb94	You were attacked by poland
21:06	Christiaanb94	you signed treaty
21:06	Christiaanb94	and after that they were going after me
21:06	Christiaanb94	us*
21:06	Christiaanb94
21:06	broersje	back D
21:06	Saberan	ok
21:06	Christiaanb94	that is the maintihng
21:06	Christiaanb94	broersje
21:06	Christiaanb94	something to add?
21:07	broersje	eh
21:07	broersje	no, not really
21:07	Christiaanb94
21:07	Christiaanb94	but we didnt really liked it how you signed a treaty
21:07	Christiaanb94	with those bastards
21:07	broersje	it's just that France's treaty gave Poland the opportunity to focus on other things
21:07	broersje	like us :S
21:07	Christiaanb94	I got the feeling this was just a coward action
21:07	Christiaanb94	but
21:08	Christiaanb94	on the other hand
21:08	Christiaanb94	i udnerstand your situation
21:08	broersje	it's a good deal for you, of course
21:08	Saberan	we were attacking Fyrom and Poland ( which is his ally because of ONE ) wanted to close this war and helped them, so they took PACA to close war and after we signed an agreement to stay neutral ( which includes a NAP with Spain )
21:08	broersje	but it had some nasty side-effects for us
21:08	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	yeah, I truly understand, but now we can easily help our allies like germany and italy for exemple to fight against ONE
21:08	Saberan	We had the plan to propose you a MPP, but it was too late, I'm very sorry by the way
21:08	Christiaanb94	and now we are occupie
21:09	broersje	it's not like it's your fault
21:09	Christiaanb94
21:09	broersje	it's just a consequence of your actions
21:09	Saberan	yes
21:09	Christiaanb94	that is why some people see you as traitors
21:09	Christiaanb94	because we were/are friends
21:09	Saberan	I totally understand
21:09	Christiaanb94
21:09	Saberan	I consider you as friends nowadays
21:09	broersje	\o/
21:09	Christiaanb94	I did too
21:09	Saberan	( you know Phoenix and other things )
21:10	Christiaanb94	yes
21:10	MarcDuplessis[meeting]
21:10	Christiaanb94	but you are TERRA
21:10	Christiaanb94	and we are neutral
21:10	Saberan	we're Terra, but against ONE like you
21:10	Christiaanb94	true
21:11	Saberan	so if you need help to have back your territories, you have to know that France will be here for you
21:11	Christiaanb94	thanks
21:11	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	netherlands aren't EDEN?
21:11	Christiaanb94	lol
21:11	Christiaanb94	no
21:11	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	oh gosh
21:11	Christiaanb94	only a few people are pro-eden
21:11	Christiaanb94
21:11	broersje	true
21:11	Christiaanb94	and some pro-terra
21:12	broersje	we're non-committed
21:12	Christiaanb94	i was pro-terra
21:12		MarcDuplessis[meeting] go learn more about netherlands!
21:12	Christiaanb94
21:12	Saberan	moreover if you want to join Terra, you could help you
21:12	Christiaanb94	well
21:12	Christiaanb94	I was pro -terra
21:12	Christiaanb94	but
21:12	Christiaanb94	after this war against poland
21:12	Christiaanb94	im pro-eden
21:12	Christiaanb94	because
21:12	Christiaanb94	I asked USA, brasil
21:12	Christiaanb94	and more TERRA
21:12	Christiaanb94	countries
21:12	Christiaanb94	to help
21:13	broersje	me too
21:13	Christiaanb94	USA ignored me
21:13	Christiaanb94	brasil was trying to help a bit
21:13	Christiaanb94	but I dont like the way hoe TERRA treated us
21:13	Christiaanb94	and now we are screwed by polish
21:14	Christiaanb94	and I am ANTI-ONE
21:14	Christiaanb94
21:14	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	everybody is screwed by polish plumbers...
21:14	Saberan	I totally understand your point of view
21:14	broersje
21:14	Saberan	I think joining EDEN could be a good opportunity for your country, and we'll be friends
21:16	Saberan	what do you think ?
21:16	broersje	I think the same
21:17	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	Specifically, could France do something to reduce this feeling of betrayal?
21:17	broersje	I guess not at the moment, no
21:18	Saberan	I think we could write an article for your population
21:18	broersje	because it was not a direct action against us
21:18	broersje	an article could help
21:18	broersje	a bit
21:18	Christiaanb94	not sure about that
21:18	Christiaanb94	people will say that it is still a betrayal
21:18	broersje	but people who think you're traitors won't be convinced otherwise by an article
21:18	Christiaanb94	We cant do anything now
21:18	Christiaanb94	if we RW our countries
21:19	Christiaanb94	poland will again attack us
21:19	Christiaanb94	and we will have a swap-effect
21:19	Saberan	the only way to prove our loyalty would be to help you in RW and sign a MPP, right ?
21:19	Christiaanb94	we do not have that much help
21:19	Christiaanb94	becuas we are in no alliance
21:19	Christiaanb94	you cant sign an MPP
21:19	broersje	help will be appreciated
21:19	Christiaanb94	as you might have already seen
21:20	Christiaanb94	we are off the map
21:20	broersje
21:20	broersje	indeed
21:20	Saberan	I know Christiaanb94
21:20	Christiaanb94	pannenkoek, broersje!
21:21	Christiaanb94	haha
21:21	Christiaanb94	well,
21:21	broersje	XD
21:21	Christiaanb94	there is nothing to do for now
21:21	Christiaanb94	I tihnk
21:21	Christiaanb94	unless
21:21	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	this is no longer my responsibility, but France could help netherlands when they reappear in the map right? Saberan maybe you can tell the CP about that...
21:21	Saberan	MarcDuplessis[meeting]: on les aidera via RW déjà
21:21	Christiaanb94	unless we get help from whole the world
21:21	Christiaanb94	and RW our regions
21:21	Christiaanb94	and fight against the evil ONE
21:22	Saberan	and when will you plan to launch a RW ?
21:22	Christiaanb94	we will not
21:22	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	for the glory of DIO!
21:22	Christiaanb94	we(our CP) decided
21:22	Christiaanb94	to let this a happen
21:22	Christiaanb94	and wait till end of august
21:22	Christiaanb94	or something
21:22	Christiaanb94	:S
21:22	Saberan
21:22	Christiaanb94	that is not my decision
21:23	Christiaanb94
21:23	broersje	there is some talk
21:23	broersje	none of it is official yet
21:23	Christiaanb94	its also becuase of the summer holiday
21:23	Saberan	yes I understand
21:23	Christiaanb94	everyone will find their own place
21:23	broersje	we're in a tight spot
21:23	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	wait till end august?!
21:23	Christiaanb94	in the world
21:23	Christiaanb94	yes, i hate it
21:23	broersje	me too
21:23	broersje	you see, our gov is divided on what to do
21:24	Saberan	but in august, the French government will be very different, and maybe we won't be in Terra...
21:24	broersje	probably not
21:24	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	indeed
21:24	Christiaanb94	well
21:24	Christiaanb94	if you can arrange
21:24	Christiaanb94	some help
21:24	Christiaanb94	of all the countries you can get
21:24	Christiaanb94	and help RW our regions
21:24	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	saberan, in august, PK will have power!
21:24	Christiaanb94	and after we could help you destroy the polish empire
21:25	Saberan	ok
21:25	Christiaanb94
21:25	Christiaanb94	but that is distinct impossible
21:25	Saberan	I will to one of my deputy to find help for the Netherlands
21:25	Christiaanb94	i tihnk
21:25	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	oh yeahhh! destroy plumbers!
21:25	Christiaanb94	Saberan
21:25	Christiaanb94	its not jus tthat kind of help
21:25	Christiaanb94	this help should be huge
21:26	Christiaanb94	and proably no country wnat to sacrifice his gold on our country
21:26	Christiaanb94	that is how it works nowadays
21:26	Saberan	I know, but we can ask
21:26	Christiaanb94	you can try
21:27	Christiaanb94	but
21:27	Christiaanb94	I have tried before
21:27	Christiaanb94	no one showed up
21:27	Christiaanb94
21:27	broersje	I hope that when we call for help, France and the world will answer
21:27	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	christiaanb94, it depend which government will be there in august!
21:28	Saberan	it could be declared as brain damage for ONE at first, and finish as official liberation of the NL
21:28	Christiaanb94	look MarcDuplessis[meeting]
21:28	Christiaanb94	it is not just august
21:28	Christiaanb94	we want to be back asap
21:28	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	of course!
21:28	Christiaanb94	but we just dont have the equipment
21:28	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	we need you!
21:29	Christiaanb94	yes ofc
21:29	Christiaanb94	we need the half of the world to fight against one
21:29	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	or! a hard reset!
21:32	Christiaanb94	yes
21:32	Christiaanb94
21:32	Christiaanb94	but if you can try to get the best countries of erep
21:32	Christiaanb94	to fight for us
21:32	Christiaanb94	we can try
21:32	Christiaanb94	to RW
21:33	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	it's a good compromise!
21:35	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	ok, so if it is nothing else...
21:37	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	(just don't forget that we are the first tourists in amsterdam! And we loooooooooooove netherlands!
21:38	Saberan	so thanks for your presence here broersje and Christiaanb94
21:38	Saberan	nice to meet you
21:38	MarcDuplessis[meeting]	Well, have a great evening everyone. Hope to meet again on IRC!
21:39	broersje	I'm honored to meet you too
21:39	broersje	have a nice evening
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21:40	Christiaanb94	good night Saberan
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21:40	Saberan	good night Christiaanb94
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