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- gg46e3 - Today at 8:44 PM
- Sir,
- May I ask something respectfully that may conflict with your previous opinion on something, regarding SS.
- Nino - Today at 8:47 PM
- ?
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:48 PM
- If I might say, I believe it is a little impromper to have the WHCOS equal to or above Director in the USSS group, sir.
- improper*
- Nino - Today at 8:48 PM
- rank ≠ authority
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:48 PM
- I see,
- Though he may not have de jure authority in his role as WHCOS
- Nino - Today at 8:48 PM
- for example
- my vice president
- is ranked director/secretary
- in groups without vp role
- hes ranked secdef in usm
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:49 PM
- Giving him the effective admin pemissions of SS Director makes it de facto that
- Nino - Today at 8:49 PM
- is he the secdef? no
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:49 PM
- I see sir, but the VPOTUS is an elected individual who does have a certain degree of precedence (though he shouldn't have any effective administrative/executive powers, as irl)
- The WHCOS is an appointed, non-confirmed, non-voted office
- and the person has usually had authority mainly by virtue of having the president's ear
- As well as issuing memorandums, meetings with department heads, etc(edited)
- I feel as if the WHCOS should be in SS, but perhaps at a lower rank more indicative of his status as an observer.
- Nino - Today at 8:51 PM
- His role is not to simply observe
- The COS is my eyes and ears
- He will remain
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:51 PM
- But he can do nothing other than observe
- I agree sir,
- That your role as POTUS commands you a great, extraordinary amount of supervision over SS -- rightly so
- But I would respectfully ask that you devolve some of the WHCOS' power of observance to your own constitutional officer, the SECHLS
- Who reports to you specifically on SS and has legal authority to do as you command with regard to SS
- Nino - Today at 8:54 PM
- Those two things
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:54 PM
- The WHCOS has no such legal authority
- Nino - Today at 8:54 PM
- Arent exclusive from each other
- He will remain
- I do not use
- Kevin
- To observe the SS
- He is there because he is my Chief of Staff
- And disseminates directives from my office
- He will remain
- And I understand
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:55 PM
- This is grossly improper, sir
- Nino - Today at 8:55 PM
- You are just trying to be a good advisor
- But I know how to run a White House
- And I know what the duties and roles of executive officers are
- I also served on the Supreme Court and have written nearly a hundred pages of legal opinion, thank you very much
- I think I am aware of how our constitutional system operates
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:56 PM
- Then I'm sure you're aware, sir, of the constituting documents of USSS as an entity
- Nino - Today at 8:56 PM
- None of those are being disrupted.
- I need you to stop playing lawyer about my organizational decisions and advise me on substantive issues
- Just because the Chief of Staff
- Has a rank in the SS group
- Doesn't take any authority or powers from the SS Director or the Homeland Secretary
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:57 PM
- I suppose it wouldn't matter if he didn't exercise the authority/powers, but there are instances in the audit logs
- Nino - Today at 8:57 PM
- That you assume that tells me you don't understand the law, because this has been an issued settled all the way back in 2016
- Nothing he exercises is done without my authorization
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:58 PM
- Is there case law or judicial rulings on this matter from the NUSA community?
- Something modifying our current statutes?
- Nino - Today at 8:58 PM
- We have already settled the question of whether ranks = legal authority in the Supreme Court.
- The answer was a clear, "no."
- But you're welcome to challenge any of this if you'd like, but you'd have to resign in order to do so, as you are not permitted to sue the Executive while working directly for it.
- gg46e3 - Today at 8:59 PM
- That would require the holder of such a rank not to exercise legal authorities of the rank, right?
- Nino - Today at 8:59 PM
- Okie
- I can see we're going nowhere
- Nino - Today at 9:00 PM
- And this is like the fifth conversation of this type you've had with me
- And frankly I'm getting really tired of it
- Drop it or resign
- Because honestly I don't have the time to entertain these conversations
- If you feel my decisions are so improper and illegal, the door is wide open.
- gg46e3 - Today at 9:00 PM
- Is there a WHS counsel or someone I can consult with more questions?
- I do see how this is rather hogging up your time
- Nino - Today at 9:01 PM
- It's also rather inappropriate coming from an Assistant White House Chief of Staff.
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