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- Aug 15 17 08:31:32 * HeyJude (~Hey@HeyJudee.users.undernet.org) has joined
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- Aug 15 17 08:31:36 * X gives channel operator status to HeyJude
- Aug 15 17 08:31:38 <Alan> hi HeyJude
- Aug 15 17 08:31:42 <HeyJude> Alan hi!!
- Aug 15 17 08:32:08 <HeyJude> Globie^ hi!!
- Aug 15 17 08:32:15 <HeyJude> Globie^ pays the teachers more?
- Aug 15 17 08:33:08 <HeyJude> Globie^ you cannot blame the teachers
- Aug 15 17 08:33:42 <HeyJude> Globie^ how far are you from the reservation?
- Aug 15 17 08:33:56 <HeyJude> Hal3 is that true for anyone then?
- Aug 15 17 08:34:17 <HeyJude> Globie^ oh ok, what tribe?
- Aug 15 17 08:36:10 <HeyJude> Globie^ ok sure
- Aug 15 17 08:37:19 <HeyJude> Globie^ gosh, I did a pediatric study on the Navajo reservation, the big one in Arizona...it was so distressing to me..
- Aug 15 17 08:39:19 <HeyJude> the era of placing the native americans on reservations was a tragic part of our history
- Aug 15 17 08:40:48 <HeyJude> RAS| a very complex situation to sort out..believe me...from experience on the Navajo reservation
- Aug 15 17 08:41:01 <HeyJude> RAS| as far as I know TriCare is a payor?
- Aug 15 17 08:42:09 <HeyJude> RAS| well...yes,,...but a complex issue to sort out...
- Aug 15 17 08:43:37 <HeyJude> Globie^ some of the tribes have done well with casinos
- Aug 15 17 08:44:02 <HeyJude> Hal3 I dont think the Native Americans needed the US governments permission to build on their lands
- Aug 15 17 08:46:02 <HeyJude> LEB2000 hi!
- Aug 15 17 09:02:24 <HeyJude> U
- Aug 15 17 09:02:28 <HeyJude> oops
- Aug 15 17 09:03:47 <HeyJude> IN the 200+ years of the Constitution..this country has evolved. The framers did not give women, blacks or other groups the right to vote...as society has changed so has the additions to the Constitution etc. Slavery was legal at one time..it is not legal for a number of years.
- Aug 15 17 09:03:57 <HeyJude> mgm17 hi!!
- Aug 15 17 09:08:36 <HeyJude> I dont find the statues of R E Lee as offensive but part of our history. He and others are part of our american history. Having said that I am not black so of course I post with a bias. I am not sure what other countries have done about their internal or civil wars except Germany which is a special case with WW2 as it is illegal to honor the nazis in any way....
- Aug 15 17 09:09:47 <HeyJude> RAS| I am what I am...white yes... priviledge..thank my parents for that
- Aug 15 17 09:11:46 <HeyJude> RAS| with help from my parents...I will said this what I find offensive with how it is used in many instances..is the Confederate Flag..and I qualify it as how it is used many times..not that it was a flag of the Confederate Army historically.
- Aug 15 17 09:12:00 <HeyJude> RAS| I owe lots of my parents and family as well.
- Aug 15 17 09:12:51 <HeyJude> I am a descendant and related to many killed at the hands of the nazis....
- Aug 15 17 09:13:44 <HeyJude> We are proud as Americans
- Aug 15 17 09:14:07 <HeyJude> I dont fly but one flag..the US flags
- Aug 15 17 09:14:13 <HeyJude> -s
- Aug 15 17 09:14:16 <HeyJude> flag
- Aug 15 17 09:14:54 <HeyJude> Globie^ we fly it on June 14 for Flag Day and July 4th so it does not get messed up
- Aug 15 17 09:15:16 <HeyJude> RAS| I am an american...that's the only flag I fly
- Aug 15 17 09:15:33 <HeyJude> CheapThrills hi
- Aug 15 17 09:17:18 <HeyJude> Globie^ seems reasonable
- Aug 15 17 09:17:56 <HeyJude> canadians are North Americans..we are North Americans
- Aug 15 17 09:18:02 <HeyJude> so they are americans
- Aug 15 17 09:18:39 <HeyJude> Globie^ why? LOL
- Aug 15 17 09:18:56 <HeyJude> oh
- Aug 15 17 09:22:14 <HeyJude> LEB2000 we are all americans...and a society very mixed these days...
- Aug 15 17 09:23:08 <HeyJude> Hal3 and who is that?
- Aug 15 17 09:23:51 <HeyJude> LEB2000 sure
- Aug 15 17 09:25:03 <HeyJude> LEB2000 including Panama and Costa Rica
- Aug 15 17 09:27:33 <HeyJude> LEB2000 there are places outside of the US I could live...
- Aug 15 17 09:28:05 <HeyJude> LEB2000 I like San Miguel de Allenda...in Mexico..gorgeous
- Aug 15 17 09:28:10 <HeyJude> I could live in Paris
- Aug 15 17 09:28:16 <HeyJude> rome
- Aug 15 17 09:28:39 <HeyJude> Globie^ it is lovely there
- Aug 15 17 09:29:20 <HeyJude> LEB2000 sure..I love cities...
- Aug 15 17 09:29:49 <HeyJude> LEB2000 hehehe
- Aug 15 17 09:43:13 <HeyJude> no work arounds? like air cards?
- Aug 15 17 09:43:46 <HeyJude> RatBastard most latin american countries have better cell than we do
- Aug 15 17 09:44:17 <RatBastard> HeyJude: depends on the area, I'm sure. Rural Panama is probably a dead zone.
- Aug 15 17 09:44:54 <HeyJude> RatBastard I dont know.. Cellphone infrastructure in Africa is incredibly excellent even in rural parts...towers are everywhere
- Aug 15 17 09:50:12 <HeyJude> mgm17 just use a lawyer down there...we brought in Africa...the attorney sorted it all out
- Aug 15 17 09:51:28 <HeyJude> mgm17 there are horror stories here as well...
- Aug 15 17 09:52:00 <HeyJude> no title searches in Africa either...
- Aug 15 17 10:20:33 <HeyJude> Wi|dStallion hi
- Aug 15 17 10:20:40 <Wi|dStallion> HeyJude!!!
- Aug 15 17 10:26:16 <HeyJude> mgm17 what was the message of the group in Charlottesville?
- Aug 15 17 10:28:21 <HeyJude> IndigoMan watch it on the internet
- Aug 15 17 10:31:49 <HeyJude> Ragtime^ that's bull, post the url
- Aug 15 17 10:34:16 <HeyJude> the U of Missouri is not the U of Virgina...learn to read
- Aug 15 17 10:34:25 <HeyJude> hearing talk...chatter
- Aug 15 17 10:34:27 <HeyJude> LOL
- Aug 15 17 10:37:19 <HeyJude> Wi|dStallion it is illegal there with all assorted Nazi images etc
- Aug 15 17 10:41:43 <HeyJude> In the Weimar Republic the left consisted of the Communists (KPD) and the Social Democrats (SPD). The Center consisted of the Democratic party (DDP), the Catholic Center Party (Z) and the People’s Party (DVP). The right consisted of the German Nationalist Party (DNVP) and the National Socialist Party (NSDAP-Nazi).
- Aug 15 17 10:43:57 <HeyJude> some people need to read some history on Weimar Germany and the Nazis
- Aug 15 17 10:43:59 <HeyJude> https://www.facinghistory.org/weimar-republic-fragility-democracy/readings/weimar-political-parties
- Aug 15 17 10:45:27 <HeyJude> In the Weimar Republic the left consisted of the Communists (KPD) and the Social Democrats (SPD). The Center consisted of the Democratic party (DDP), the Catholic Center Party (Z) and the People’s Party (DVP). The right consisted of the German Nationalist Party (DNVP) and the National Socialist Party (NSDAP-Nazi).
- Aug 15 17 10:47:16 <HeyJude> Awefulsir hi!!
- Aug 15 17 10:49:07 <HeyJude> So now we are debating the Nazis...do tell me did they do any good?
- Aug 15 17 10:50:03 <HeyJude> and here we are in 2017 defending nazis? are we?
- Aug 15 17 10:50:16 <HeyJude> Albedo bad and evil
- Aug 15 17 10:50:32 <HeyJude> mgm17 yes...I am a descendent of people killed and tortured by nazis
- Aug 15 17 10:50:36 <Albedo> HeyJude that sounds like a democrat
- Aug 15 17 10:50:48 <HeyJude> Albedo shame on you
- Aug 15 17 10:51:27 <HeyJude> There are no redeemable qualities re: nazis as far as I am concerned...
- Aug 15 17 10:51:59 <HeyJude> mgm17 me either..or Mussolini
- Aug 15 17 10:53:00 <HeyJude> Wi|dStallion and a few of the Japan leader in WW2
- Aug 15 17 10:53:14 <Wi|dStallion> HeyJude: ok! :)
- Aug 15 17 10:54:01 <HeyJude> Yes the nazis have a right to assemble according to the locales rules....and we need to be in their faces as well
- Aug 15 17 10:54:38 <HeyJude> siXOf1 why? really..you support white power and supremacy? really?
- Aug 15 17 10:54:39 <knox> HeyJude : "in their faces" ? close enough to punch them out ?
- Aug 15 17 10:55:09 <HeyJude> knox I will not be violent..I will not support violence period...but I will stand up for my values
- Aug 15 17 10:55:47 <HeyJude> mgm17 you bet..and do we know the other group in Charlottesville did not have a permit?
- Aug 15 17 10:56:49 <HeyJude> mgm17 they still get publicity
- Aug 15 17 10:57:06 <Awefulsir> Wi|dStallion and HeyJude https://is.gd/JI4tQQ
- Aug 15 17 10:57:43 <HeyJude> Awefulsir thanks..yum
- Aug 15 17 10:58:15 <HeyJude> mgm17 why...both groups have legal rights to assemble
- Aug 15 17 10:59:06 <HeyJude> I grill my pepper well roast on the barbecue outside
- Aug 15 17 10:59:12 <HeyJude> mgm17 greattttttttt
- Aug 15 17 11:00:13 <HeyJude> hehehehe
- Aug 15 17 11:00:24 <HeyJude> mgm17 yum
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- Aug 15 17 17:15:49 <tzip> Hi HeyJude :)
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- Aug 15 17 17:15:59 <etsuVol> hola HeyJude
- Aug 15 17 17:16:03 <HeyJude> tzip hi, I am in shock with the Trump newsconference
- Aug 15 17 17:16:14 <tzip> HeyJude, oh did he just give one?
- Aug 15 17 17:16:26 <Mechanicos> HeyJude: pretty good huh, he did the right thing
- Aug 15 17 17:16:30 <HeyJude> toolkeeper hi!!
- Aug 15 17 17:16:35 <HeyJude> etsuVol hi!
- Aug 15 17 17:16:52 <HeyJude> Mechanicos I am disgusted esp equating there are good people who are neonazis
- Aug 15 17 17:16:58 <HeyJude> shocking
- Aug 15 17 17:17:24 <Mechanicos> HeyJude: now you know how we feel having to defend American flag burners
- Aug 15 17 17:17:25 <HeyJude> Your grandparents and parents fought the nazis
- Aug 15 17 17:17:31 <HeyJude> Mechanicos oh bullshit
- Aug 15 17 17:17:45 <HeyJude> Mechanicos how many flags killed people... 12 million in total
- Aug 15 17 17:17:54 <Mechanicos> yes HeyJude thats as if not more offensive to a vet than anything
- Aug 15 17 17:18:10 <HeyJude> Mechanicos that's crap....flags do not kill..nazis do
- Aug 15 17 17:18:22 <Mechanicos> HeyJude: people who burn US flags ahve kiilled Americans
- Aug 15 17 17:18:35 <HeyJude> Mechanicos who...give me the url?
- Aug 15 17 17:18:54 <Mechanicos> HeyJude: all communists all Nazis all liberals
- Aug 15 17 17:19:32 <HeyJude> Mechanicos I have lost respect for you..I am a liberal and I can assure you I am not a nazi..I am a descendent of jews killed and tortured
- Aug 15 17 17:20:11 <Mechanicos> HeyJude: are you for single payer and socialism so are they so whats the difference besides skin color
- Aug 15 17 17:20:56 <HeyJude> Mechanicos I am done with this...
- Aug 15 17 17:23:06 <HeyJude> for a president to say there are good people who are neonazis...shocking
- Aug 15 17 17:23:24 <Harbinger> HeyJude: Did he say that, specifically?
- Aug 15 17 17:23:25 <tzip> wait, HeyJude, Trump said that?
- Aug 15 17 17:23:37 <HeyJude> shocking
- Aug 15 17 17:23:48 <Harbinger> HeyJude: Got a link?
- Aug 15 17 17:23:54 <HeyJude> and who does the neonazis and KKK want to harm... people like me and black americans
- Aug 15 17 17:24:27 <WendyAnne> HeyJude, what is incredible is not so much what President Trump said, he's always been a loose cannon, but how many are supporting him for saying such things.
- Aug 15 17 17:25:05 <HeyJude> WendyAnne like David duke, those types?
- Aug 15 17 17:25:56 <WendyAnne> HeyJude, well it is amazing they embrace him as their president, but I'm especially talking about people here, all following the same live.
- Aug 15 17 17:26:24 <Harbinger> HeyJude: Where did Trump say that Neonazis are good people?
- Aug 15 17 17:26:39 <HeyJude> The Breman Museum mourns the loss of life in Charlottesville, Virginia, and stands with the counter-protesters in raising a voice against bigotry and hatred. We echo the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in expressing that Neo-Nazism in any form is antithetical to American values and has no place in American society.
- Aug 15 17 17:27:21 <HeyJude> WendyAnne sorry my husband just called..I am not in Atlanta..I am raving right now about this
- Aug 15 17 17:27:39 <Harbinger> WendyAnne: So HeyJude is wrong, and he didn't say anything remotely like "Neonazis are good people."
- Aug 15 17 17:27:55 <HeyJude> Harbinger really...who is on the right? the tooth fairy?
- Aug 15 17 17:28:26 <HeyJude> KKK, Neonazis, white supremists..yes all of them are the tooth fairy
- Aug 15 17 17:28:36 <Harbinger> HeyJude: If I can point to one participant of that rally who isn't a national socialist, then your argument is totally fallacious. You're asserting that everyone at the rally is a national socialist--and moreover, a pro-genocide national socialist. That is flat-out wrong.
- Aug 15 17 17:28:58 <HeyJude> Harbinger I am not interested....watch the fallout from this
- Aug 15 17 17:28:59 <Harbinger> HeyJude: I might as well say that because some BLM activists were among the counter-protesters, all of them are violent black supremacists.
- Aug 15 17 17:29:24 <HeyJude> WendyAnne shocking
- Aug 15 17 17:29:56 <HeyJude> well if you were not a racist on the KKK, NeoNazi and white supremists..why are you there?
- Aug 15 17 17:30:00 <WendyAnne> HeyJude, I know, and there are people actually defending Trump of saying it.
- Aug 15 17 17:30:36 <HeyJude> WendyAnne is not full of hate..I have known here for years
- Aug 15 17 17:30:45 <HeyJude> Mechanicos that is over the top
- Aug 15 17 17:31:41 <Harbinger> HeyJude: You really think those were the only participants at the rally? They weren't. Moreover, condemning only one side for violence would totally ignore reality, as Antifa/BLM/etc. were attacking people openly.
- Aug 15 17 17:32:02 <Mechanicos> HeyJude: caling trump a racist is over the top
- Aug 15 17 17:32:14 <HeyJude> Mechanicos he is a racist..I heard it
- Aug 15 17 17:32:48 <HeyJude> Harbinger excuse me if you are not supporting the KKK, Neonazis and other white supremacy groups what are you doing there?
- Aug 15 17 17:33:28 <Harbinger> HeyJude: You'd have to ask them. I might as well ask if you're not openly supporting violent actions, then why are you running with the likes of Antifa?
- Aug 15 17 17:33:58 <Harbinger> HeyJude: I mean, the press that showed up obviously weren't national socialists.
- Aug 15 17 17:37:20 <HeyJude> Viper40 no..there are no good people on the far right such as the KKK, Neonazis....those are good people by your standards
- Aug 15 17 17:37:52 <Viper40> HeyJude, no way, while my standard are very low, they don't include excusing that trash
- Aug 15 17 17:38:22 <HeyJude> Viper40 well listen to it..it is shocking for me..those groups what to hurt my family, black americans and other people of color
- Aug 15 17 17:39:04 <Harbinger> HeyJude: Trump was very clearly condemning violent actions on both sides--which definitely happened. I have yet to see anyone from the Left condemn the violence of the counterprotesters, yet multiple people have condemned the violence from the other side.
- Aug 15 17 17:39:21 <Oakmill> HeyJude: I see some are still trying to blame both sides equally for that mess.
- Aug 15 17 17:39:37 <HeyJude> The Breman Museum mourns the loss of life in Charlottesville, Virginia, and stands with the counter-protesters in raising a voice against bigotry and hatred. We echo the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in expressing that Neo-Nazism in any form is antithetical to American values and has no place in American society.
- Aug 15 17 17:39:45 <HeyJude> Oakmill this is shocking
- Aug 15 17 17:40:00 <Oakmill> HeyJude: not only shocking, but sickening.
- Aug 15 17 17:40:26 <HeyJude> independence I dunno what that means really
- Aug 15 17 17:41:10 <HeyJude> No I blame the person who drove the car who killed that woman..and I am sadden about the state police killed
- Aug 15 17 17:42:08 <HeyJude> unreal
- Aug 15 17 17:43:13 <Harbinger> HeyJude: Of course: Those responsible for the violence are to blame for the violence. But do not evade the fact that Antifa put people in the hospital. One of the headliners is actually still in the ER after having acid thrown in his face.
- Aug 15 17 17:43:42 <HeyJude> Neonazis and KKK are not morally equal to me EVER
- Aug 15 17 17:43:44 <HeyJude> never
- Aug 15 17 17:44:03 <HeyJude> they are not good people as 45 said....they are morally lost
- Aug 15 17 17:45:56 <HeyJude> Harbinger I have said what I said....I dont care .... to say there are good people who are neonazis, KKK and white supremacists..is beyond morally acceptable...
- Aug 15 17 17:47:21 <HeyJude> Viper40 those neonazis at the rally were dressed as such including their nazi symbols
- Aug 15 17 17:47:56 <HeyJude> independence Obama was a bad person?
- Aug 15 17 17:48:08 <HeyJude> independence omg
- Aug 15 17 17:48:16 <HeyJude> independence what made him bad?
- Aug 15 17 17:49:12 <HeyJude> independence well... I would have to review the funerals of the police officers..but were they KKK or neonazis?
- Aug 15 17 17:49:18 <HeyJude> independence whatelse?
- Aug 15 17 17:49:30 <HeyJude> independence oic
- Aug 15 17 17:49:38 <HeyJude> well I guess Trump let some die also
- Aug 15 17 17:49:56 <HeyJude> a foiled raid in the ME already and a naval person killed
- Aug 15 17 17:50:17 <HeyJude> we have no moral leader of this country
- Aug 15 17 17:50:45 <HeyJude> smirks shocking
- Aug 15 17 17:50:52 <HeyJude> The Breman Museum mourns the loss of life in Charlottesville, Virginia, and stands with the counter-protesters in raising a voice against bigotry and hatred. We echo the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in expressing that Neo-Nazism in any form is antithetical to American values and has no place in American society.
- Aug 15 17 17:51:03 <smirks> yes, HeyJude, it is shicking. jsut not for trump, though
- Aug 15 17 17:51:10 <HeyJude> I am an american, jew, citizen of my community and in shock
- Aug 15 17 17:52:10 <HeyJude> smirks they have a right to march....we all do..violence is NEVER acceptable..but to have the president say there are good people with this group
- Aug 15 17 17:52:24 <smirks> his base, HeyJude
- Aug 15 17 17:58:23 <HeyJude> shocking
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- Aug 15 17 18:35:05 <toolkeeper> Hey There HeyJude__
- Aug 15 17 18:35:34 <HeyJude__> toolkeeper hi
- Aug 15 17 18:35:57 <HeyJude__> tzip RatBastard is
- Aug 15 17 18:36:55 <HeyJude__> LEB1969 I am sure the *daily stormer* has good people..Trump says there are good people on both sides
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- Aug 15 17 18:44:55 <HeyJude__> Layder now the nazi who killed the woman in Charlottesville is schizophrenic?
- Aug 15 17 18:45:27 <RockStock> HeyJude__: He tried killing his MOm
- Aug 15 17 18:45:40 <RockStock> HeyJude__: That "nazi" was nothing but a NUT
- Aug 15 17 18:45:58 <HeyJude__> RockStock oic..and he lived with his Mom as well
- Aug 15 17 18:46:06 <RockStock> HeyJude__: THink his mom was black? is that why he ttried killing her?
- Aug 15 17 18:46:35 <HeyJude__> RockStock his mother is white..jesusKrist what's wrong with you and so what is she is black
- Aug 15 17 18:47:42 <HeyJude__> RockStock if his mother was black or a jew the nazis would have given him a command
- Aug 15 17 18:48:05 <RockStock> HeyJude__: not sure what a command is
- Aug 15 17 18:48:26 <HeyJude__> RockStock a promotion
- Aug 15 17 18:48:47 <HeyJude__> now the neonazi is mentally ill...what next
- Aug 15 17 18:49:38 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Well, he does have a history of mental illness and rage-induced violence. The charges look about right (second degree murder, etc) barring any new evidence brought to the table. If he enters an insanity plea, there's a decent chance it'll be entertained.
- Aug 15 17 18:49:38 <HeyJude__> Layder I doubt he is criminally insane...he would be committed
- Aug 15 17 18:50:12 <RockStock> HeyJude__: With do respect, I think I've seen more pictures of UFO's and bigfoot recently , than of Nazi's alive.
- Aug 15 17 18:50:53 <HeyJude__> Jerenn my father flew for the IAF in 1948 and threw bottles full of kerosene lit out of his piper cub in the desert around Israel so was he insane
- Aug 15 17 18:51:22 <HeyJude__> RockStock there are plenty of neonazis around the world
- Aug 15 17 18:51:36 <RockStock> HeyJude__: U got any pic's of your father doing that?
- Aug 15 17 18:51:37 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ but very few in the US
- Aug 15 17 18:51:57 <HeyJude__> RockStock I do..and it was in a documentary on the first pilots of the IAF
- Aug 15 17 18:52:06 <RockStock> HeyJude__: wow
- Aug 15 17 18:52:11 <RockStock> HeyJude__: is it on U tube?
- Aug 15 17 18:52:34 <HeyJude__> RockStock I would never share that info in a chatchannel
- Aug 15 17 18:52:43 <RockStock> HeyJude__: sorry
- Aug 15 17 18:52:52 <Oakmill> HeyJude__: he sounds like Karlton Armstrong at UW in the late 60's...:)
- Aug 15 17 18:53:05 <HeyJude__> RockStock I think the documentary is on netflix
- Aug 15 17 18:53:25 <RockStock> HeyJude__: wow. does it show him flying? or just by his airplane or?
- Aug 15 17 18:53:56 <HeyJude__> Oakmill he was a naval pilot in WW2..took my grandmother to Palistine (Israel) to find living relatives...he was recruited to fly and he did....he made his own bombs
- Aug 15 17 18:53:57 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Don't know if you recall, but a little over a year ago I told you that national socialist groups were on the rise in the U.S. You called me an idiot. I said if the violence from the Left continues, there will be clashes and confrontations. Turns out I was right.
- Aug 15 17 18:54:17 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Just wanted to point that out to you.
- Aug 15 17 18:55:04 <HeyJude__> Awefulsir well he is being empowered now
- Aug 15 17 18:55:28 <Oakmill> HeyJude__: Armstrong was a war protestor who stole an airplane, never having flown before, and tried to bomb an ammo factory in rural WI with gasoline somehow in a container with a fuse of some sort...
- Aug 15 17 18:55:34 <HeyJude__> Awefulsir yes...and JDL is concerned..just got an email
- Aug 15 17 18:55:52 <HeyJude__> Oakmill no my father was a commissioned IAF pilot
- Aug 15 17 18:55:54 <RockStock> HeyJude__: Do you know how many languages are spoken in S africa?
- Aug 15 17 18:56:09 <HeyJude__> RockStock there are 11 official languages...
- Aug 15 17 18:56:16 <HeyJude__> RockStock and many unofficial ones
- Aug 15 17 18:56:42 <RockStock> HeyJude__: Hmmm interesting. Some black lady in my area from africa, claims she can speak 12. Is that common?
- Aug 15 17 18:57:04 <HeyJude__> RockStock yes esp with the indigenous languages
- Aug 15 17 18:57:23 <HeyJude__> RockStock many of them know all of them..they are very talented people
- Aug 15 17 18:57:26 <RockStock> HeyJude__: are they , all, or mostly overlap, or vastly different/
- Aug 15 17 18:57:50 <HeyJude__> RockStock there are 2 main types of indigenous languages or branches...so they learn them
- Aug 15 17 18:59:05 <HeyJude__> good, we have lost our moral compass
- Aug 15 17 18:59:33 <HeyJude__> anyone who can say there are good people who are neonazis and KKK needs to know they want to kill jews, black americans and other people of color
- Aug 15 17 19:00:01 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: You've yet to prove that neo-Nazis were the only people in attendance.
- Aug 15 17 19:00:13 <HeyJude__> RockStock goody for you...now I fear for my family in this country because of all the good neonazis and KKK out there
- Aug 15 17 19:00:25 <HeyJude__> Harbinger no that's you bs..you prove it not me
- Aug 15 17 19:00:34 <RockStock> HeyJude__: I will, I contend, 2 out of 10 KKK members are cops, just there to investigate em under cover.
- Aug 15 17 19:00:39 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: But you're also taking the statement out of context. The purpose was to point out that there *was* violence on both sides--despite the media narrative that Antifa was not violent--and to denounce the violent actions in general.
- Aug 15 17 19:00:52 <HeyJude__> LEB1969 well the president is suppose to be the leader of this nation....condeming them period
- Aug 15 17 19:01:07 <HeyJude__> RockStock yeah sure OK...welcome to planet earth
- Aug 15 17 19:01:18 <HeyJude__> Harbinger I have not....I heard it and it was shocking
- Aug 15 17 19:01:21 <RockStock> HeyJude__: I fear for my life any time I go into the black area of town.
- Aug 15 17 19:01:27 <HeyJude__> rock
- Aug 15 17 19:01:37 <HeyJude__> oh hell RockStock is slummy
- Aug 15 17 19:02:47 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Richard Spencer's wife is a Jew of Russian descent. Michael Peinovich's wife is Jewish. Does they sound like people that want to murder Jews? NRA members showed up. Hell, people just curious about the event showed up.
- Aug 15 17 19:02:54 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Do they*
- Aug 15 17 19:03:25 <HeyJude__> Awefulsir another ircbadass
- Aug 15 17 19:04:03 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: At the very least, will you acknowledge and denounce the violence perpetrated by the Left that day?
- Aug 15 17 19:04:13 <HeyJude__> Harbinger neonazis, KKK, white supremacist are not good people where I come from
- Aug 15 17 19:04:53 <RockStock> <--- would shoot someone if I saw them hurting HeyJude__ or anyone in her family
- Aug 15 17 19:04:59 <johnm> HeyJude__ We WON!
- Aug 15 17 19:05:22 <HeyJude__> Friday nite this lovely group were chanting Jews will not replace us.. We will not be replaced
- Aug 15 17 19:05:35 <HeyJude__> RockStock I can take care of myself
- Aug 15 17 19:05:52 <RockStock> HeyJude__: Im sure you can.
- Aug 15 17 19:06:54 * Harbinger notes that HeyJude__ won't denounce Antifa's violence.
- Aug 15 17 19:07:09 <HeyJude__> Where I come from we will not let neonazis and KKK go unanswered..we will stand up for our moral convictions...I am a descendent of people killed and brutalized by nazis who thought they were the supreme race
- Aug 15 17 19:07:30 <johnm> HeyJude__ WHERE fif you come from?
- Aug 15 17 19:07:33 <HeyJude__> Harbinger no violence is tolerated period
- Aug 15 17 19:07:52 <HeyJude__> yes you have it...violence is NEVER justified
- Aug 15 17 19:08:05 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: So, you're saying the violence on both sides was a bad thing?
- Aug 15 17 19:08:22 <HeyJude__> VoxPopuli sorry there are not good people who are nazis and KKK and white supremists
- Aug 15 17 19:09:15 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: By that token, who in their right mind would run with groups like Antifa? Clearly, by your standards, there were no good people there that day at all.
- Aug 15 17 19:10:00 <HeyJude__> johnm I come from a jewish family and I am a descendant of grandparents tortured by the nazis...and mother who hid in Italy during WW2 from the nazis...and plenty of great aunts and uncles I never met who were killed by the nazis..that is who I am
- Aug 15 17 19:10:14 <johnm> Just HeyJude__ maybe
- Aug 15 17 19:10:25 <HeyJude__> maybe what?
- Aug 15 17 19:11:20 <HeyJude__> Mechanicos oh brother..that is disgusting.
- Aug 15 17 19:11:33 <HeyJude__> Mechanicos you do not have the gumption to be a jew
- Aug 15 17 19:11:49 <HeyJude__> Mechanicos crap really...go for it
- Aug 15 17 19:11:58 <HeyJude__> LOL
- Aug 15 17 19:12:18 <HeyJude__> the white men have ruled the world..now they have to share the stage and they do not like it
- Aug 15 17 19:12:54 <HeyJude__> Mechanicos special privilidge
- Aug 15 17 19:12:57 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ I have bad news for you: Donald Trump IS a white male
- Aug 15 17 19:12:59 <HeyJude__> really? what?
- Aug 15 17 19:13:11 <HeyJude__> VladPutin yes he is and Obama is not
- Aug 15 17 19:13:12 <Mechanicos> You may have it HeyJude__ I was poor
- Aug 15 17 19:13:25 <HeyJude__> Mechanicos have what? what are you trying to say?
- Aug 15 17 19:13:37 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ yr precious Obama is gone
- Aug 15 17 19:13:45 <HeyJude__> VladPutin no he is still alive
- Aug 15 17 19:13:58 <Mechanicos> HeyJude__: you never ere poor haad a nice family I grew up poor having to fight
- Aug 15 17 19:14:00 <VladPutin> HeyJude- I meant, he's no longer POTUS
- Aug 15 17 19:14:32 <HeyJude__> Mechanicos tough shit..my family had nothing when they came to this country....they worked damn hard to be educated and make it in this country....
- Aug 15 17 19:14:58 <Mechanicos> HeyJude__: then you should be pissed at the left sying you never eraned that
- Aug 15 17 19:15:02 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ that's great.. nowe how about telling that to all the other 'minorities' who are crying wolf?
- Aug 15 17 19:15:12 <HeyJude__> Mechanicos they have never said that.
- Aug 15 17 19:15:41 <HeyJude__> Harbinger yes share the stage with women, people of color and other minorities
- Aug 15 17 19:15:56 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: By force!
- Aug 15 17 19:16:08 <HeyJude__> Harbinger that's your post not mine
- Aug 15 17 19:16:23 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: So how do we make "The White Man(tm)" go about "sharing the stage?"
- Aug 15 17 19:16:43 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Because most diversity quotas are enforced by legislation.
- Aug 15 17 19:16:44 <HeyJude__> LEB2000 the ACLU back the KKK in the Skokie march as well...they have aright to march and so do I....violence is never acceptable period
- Aug 15 17 19:17:12 <HeyJude__> Harbinger it had to be legislated and an amendment just to allow blacks and women to vote for a start
- Aug 15 17 19:17:33 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: I'm not talking about the vote. I'm talking about forcing payouts and hiring quotas.
- Aug 15 17 19:17:41 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Because that seems to be what you're advocating.
- Aug 15 17 19:17:45 <HeyJude__> Harbinger it had to be legislated
- Aug 15 17 19:17:51 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Do hiring quotas?
- Aug 15 17 19:17:52 <HeyJude__> Brown V Board of Education
- Aug 15 17 19:18:45 <HeyJude__> independence not really
- Aug 15 17 19:18:53 <HeyJude__> the violence
- Aug 15 17 19:19:32 <HeyJude__> LEB2000 they are coming to Atlanta to march if they are allowed a pemit..I will be there stay tuned
- Aug 15 17 19:19:44 * Harbinger notes that HeyJude__ won't own up to her advocacy of forcing private companies to hire more non-white males because of "The White Man(tm)'s Privilege."
- Aug 15 17 19:20:14 <HeyJude__> Harbinger I do not know that as fact..perhaps in your fantasy land...the places i have worked and work now that is not true
- Aug 15 17 19:20:18 <RockStock> HeyJude__: take a mask :)
- Aug 15 17 19:20:25 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: I'm asking whether you advocate it.
- Aug 15 17 19:20:33 <HeyJude__> Harbinger so NEVER say you know what I thinkk you do not
- Aug 15 17 19:20:51 <HeyJude__> LEB2000 I will be there
- Aug 15 17 19:21:19 <RockStock> Dunno if I would want to be married to a Jewish lady, after watching HeyJude__, she might beat on me :)
- Aug 15 17 19:21:32 <HeyJude__> LEB2000 you bet it is....I have a vested interested in my heritage
- Aug 15 17 19:21:59 <HeyJude__> RockStock you do not have a chance..you are unclean LOL a gentile..my grandfather would have freaked
- Aug 15 17 19:22:09 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Also, remember when I told you that NatSoc was on the rise in the U.S., and you responsed that you "don't see it?" How about now?
- Aug 15 17 19:22:20 <RockStock> HeyJude__: 23andme says Im jewish :)
- Aug 15 17 19:22:32 <HeyJude__> RockStock I did not a course in street fighting when I was assigned to Africa..and I could beat up some large men with the right moves it is great
- Aug 15 17 19:22:40 <HeyJude__> RockStock oh right LOL
- Aug 15 17 19:23:02 <RockStock> HeyJude__: What it says.
- Aug 15 17 19:23:30 <HeyJude__> RockStock and someone got it majorly in CapeTown who approached me from the back..whamo he was on the ground
- Aug 15 17 19:24:06 <RockStock> HeyJude__: saw your pics years ago.... you could hit me, I would not care, yur cute :)
- Aug 15 17 19:24:23 <HeyJude__> RockStock LOL you are unclean
- Aug 15 17 19:25:19 <RockStock> HeyJude__: What would you say, if someone said that about a black... unclean, etc etc etc
- Aug 15 17 19:25:22 <HeyJude__> LOl OMG
- Aug 15 17 19:25:37 <HeyJude__> RockStock we have our jewish traditions...and I honor them
- Aug 15 17 19:26:07 <HeyJude__> johnm esp since I worked in Africa on an all black population
- Aug 15 17 19:26:32 <johnm> HeyJude__ that was for MONEY, I discount all of that
- Aug 15 17 19:26:57 <HeyJude__> johnm not all of it...I did plenty of volunteer work..and what an ass of a statement
- Aug 15 17 19:27:38 <HeyJude__> johnm I dont care...
- Aug 15 17 19:27:55 <johnm> HeyJude__ I don't care
- Aug 15 17 19:28:03 <HeyJude__> the founders did not give women the right to vote
- Aug 15 17 19:28:12 <gmolly> this is interesting: 16:25:16] <+RockStock> HeyJude__: What would you say, if someone said that about a black... unclean, etc etc etc
- Aug 15 17 19:28:14 <HeyJude__> johnm good...at least I dont have to help you
- Aug 15 17 19:28:22 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ they have the right to vote NOW.. what's the fucking problem?
- Aug 15 17 19:28:44 <HeyJude__> VladPutin yes..as society evolved...what 150 years later
- Aug 15 17 19:29:04 <HeyJude__> independence LOL nice spin but no style points
- Aug 15 17 19:29:08 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ no amount of whining about that will change anything
- Aug 15 17 19:29:28 <HeyJude__> VladPutin SPOKEN like the canadian you are
- Aug 15 17 19:29:48 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Why are you worried about the state of affairs hundreds of years ago when it's been resolved for a long time now?
- Aug 15 17 19:29:54 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ yes, a Canadian that lives in the year 2017- give it a go someyime
- Aug 15 17 19:30:01 <HeyJude__> Harbinger I made a declarative statement
- Aug 15 17 19:30:10 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: I'm asking why you made the statement.
- Aug 15 17 19:30:14 <HeyJude__> VladPutin no issues in Canada?
- Aug 15 17 19:30:21 <HeyJude__> Harbinger because it is fact
- Aug 15 17 19:30:49 <HeyJude__> RockStock next are you going to tell me you have some good friends who are jews?
- Aug 15 17 19:30:56 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ we have the prviledge and honor of being borne in the West; complaining is thus anathema.. dont like it? go back to Africa for all I care
- Aug 15 17 19:31:22 <RockStock> HeyJude__: well... I would not say friends, but probably the nicest most compasionate person I've ever met was Jewish.
- Aug 15 17 19:31:25 <HeyJude__> VladPutin go preach to someone else...the fact of the matter women could not vote in the country until the last century
- Aug 15 17 19:31:35 <VladPutin> HeyJude_ BOO-FUCKING-HOO
- Aug 15 17 19:31:35 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: So?
- Aug 15 17 19:31:43 <RockStock> HeyJude__: and it was because of her genetics im sure.
- Aug 15 17 19:32:08 <HeyJude__> LOL
- Aug 15 17 19:32:31 <HeyJude__> RockStock we have certain traditions that many take very seriously
- Aug 15 17 19:32:57 <RockStock> HeyJude__: Interesting.
- Aug 15 17 19:33:45 <HeyJude__> RockStock one is a mitzvah..look it up
- Aug 15 17 19:33:55 <HeyJude__> gmolly give it a rest
- Aug 15 17 19:33:59 <RockStock> HeyJude__: Well.. you are a smart people, so.... I'm sure you know best. And your survival rate is proof in the pudding your system works it seems.
- Aug 15 17 19:34:10 <HeyJude__> gmolly the left the left....her channel is dead agaon
- Aug 15 17 19:34:31 <HeyJude__> RockStock we value education
- Aug 15 17 19:34:39 <johnm> HeyJude__ give it a rest
- Aug 15 17 19:34:42 <HeyJude__> gmolly good....
- Aug 15 17 19:35:03 <HeyJude__> gmolly yes I am just plain mean because you are on track with the left the left the left
- Aug 15 17 19:35:25 <HeyJude__> you know fokall about the left except to blame them for all the shortcomings of politics
- Aug 15 17 19:35:53 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: So you classify yourself as a leftist capitalist? Interesting.
- Aug 15 17 19:36:14 <HeyJude__> Harbinger I am a liberal democrat in the proud traditions of my family
- Aug 15 17 19:36:42 <HeyJude__> VoxPopuli it was an issue with my grandfather if you thought about marrying a nonjew
- Aug 15 17 19:36:53 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Well, earlier you said you were a capitalist. Now you're implying you're a Leftist that gmolly knows "fokall" about. I've never heard of a Leftist capitalist before.
- Aug 15 17 19:37:02 <HeyJude__> Harbinger yes i am a capitalist and so what
- Aug 15 17 19:37:16 <VoxPopuli> HeyJude__: Oh, so it was a personal thing. Got it.
- Aug 15 17 19:37:39 <HeyJude__> Harbinger if it is any of your busines...the left is the problem for all of the problems of the world and politics
- Aug 15 17 19:37:56 <HeyJude__> VoxPopuli he would say it in hebrew to all of us...
- Aug 15 17 19:38:14 <VoxPopuli> HeyJude__: Sounds quite rude.
- Aug 15 17 19:38:27 <HeyJude__> VoxPopuli no...he was quite orthodox
- Aug 15 17 19:38:45 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Well, you were saying that Nazis are on the "Right" earlier. So now you're saying Nazis aren't a problem, only leftists?
- Aug 15 17 19:38:49 <HeyJude__> gmolly it none stop with the left the left
- Aug 15 17 19:39:07 <HeyJude__> Harbinger yes...you better review the political parties of the Weimar..the nazis were the right
- Aug 15 17 19:39:36 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: That's OK. Lots of people like to have their cake and eat it, too.
- Aug 15 17 19:39:46 <HeyJude__> Harbinger just like you
- Aug 15 17 19:40:01 <HeyJude__> there is not one thing positive about a nazi
- Aug 15 17 19:40:28 <HeyJude__> RockStock did you look up mitvah?
- Aug 15 17 19:40:46 <RockStock> HeyJude__: let me google it real quick
- Aug 15 17 19:42:20 <HeyJude__> The party also drew support from members of the lower middle class, shopkeepers, artisans and white-collar workers. The party was unequivocally opposed to the Weimar Republic and in 1923 its members led by Hitler tried unsuccessfully to seize the government by force. After this failed attempt the party reverted to a strategy of gaining power through the electoral process without ever changing
- Aug 15 17 19:42:20 <HeyJude__> its fundamental opposition to democracy and republican government. Antisemitism and the threat that the Jews represented to Germany were at the core of the Nazi ideology.
- Aug 15 17 19:42:28 <HeyJude__> this failed attempt the party reverted to a strategy of gaining power through the electoral process without ever changing its fundamental opposition to democracy and republican government. Antisemitism and the threat that the Jews represented to Germany were at the core of the Nazi ideology.
- Aug 15 17 19:42:44 <HeyJude__> Antisemitism and the threat that the Jews represented to Germany were at the core of the Nazi ideology.
- Aug 15 17 19:44:15 <RockStock> HeyJude__: I thought it was Bar Mitzvah.... how do they get bar mitzvah out of Mitzvah? Whats a birthday have to do with a charitable act?
- Aug 15 17 19:44:46 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: So, if I find value in giving charity and also having my children well-educated, does that make me Jewish?
- Aug 15 17 19:45:20 <HeyJude__> RockStock nO NO that is a male coming to age ritual..a Mitzvah are the pledges to do good...my grandfather had us at YomKippur define 3 mitzvah for the year....
- Aug 15 17 19:45:28 <HeyJude__> Harbinger google it
- Aug 15 17 19:45:55 <HeyJude__> RockStock bar is for the boy and bat is for the female..I had a bat mitzvah
- Aug 15 17 19:46:00 <Harbinger> HeyJude__: Well, if you're defining the basic characteristics of your ethnic/moral/whatever identity, and I adhere to those same basic values, does that make me the same as you?
- Aug 15 17 19:46:24 <HeyJude__> Harbinger google it...you cannot neveer be the same as me...we are different genders
- Aug 15 17 19:46:57 <HeyJude__> gmolly google is your friend..
- Aug 15 17 19:47:46 <HeyJude__> LEB2000 of course..I refer him to google
- Aug 15 17 19:47:56 <HeyJude__> LEB2000 he continues with the Dragnet
- Aug 15 17 19:48:20 <HeyJude__> RockStock have you been to a Bar Mitzvah?
- Aug 15 17 19:48:21 <RockStock> HeyJude__: I understand...... that should mean boy gift or girl gift...... whats it got to do with a birthday... is how i wonder how the two words combined come to be a celebration
- Aug 15 17 19:48:32 <RockStock> HeyJude__: Not in this lifetime.
- Aug 15 17 19:48:44 <RockStock> HeyJude__: are non jews allowed?
- Aug 15 17 19:48:50 <HeyJude__> RockStock the date of the bar or bat mitzvah happens on or around your 13 birthday
- Aug 15 17 19:48:54 <HeyJude__> RockStock of course
- Aug 15 17 19:49:15 <RockStock> HeyJude__: ok... but... mitzvah is a good deed or gift right?
- Aug 15 17 19:49:16 <HeyJude__> RockStock it is a gorgeous ceremony
- Aug 15 17 19:49:27 <HeyJude__> RockStock yes..
- Aug 15 17 19:50:08 <RockStock> HeyJude__: soooo When ya add boy or girl to the front, bar for example.... how does it change the meaning so much
- Aug 15 17 19:50:14 <HeyJude__> RockStock the parties after the ceremony OMG they rock and booze and food flows...and rock bans...
- Aug 15 17 19:50:29 <HeyJude__> Bar is the male and bat is the female
- Aug 15 17 19:50:35 <RockStock> HeyJude__: ok
- Aug 15 17 19:50:51 <HeyJude__> RockStock my brothers would go on for a week
- Aug 15 17 19:50:57 <RockStock> HeyJude__: so do they considder that, a gift.... or good deed part of the Bar Mitzvah ?
- Aug 15 17 19:51:22 <HeyJude__> RockStock no..it is the ceremony of coming to age as a man or a woman
- Aug 15 17 19:51:49 <RockStock> HeyJude__: I understand. Just wondering why the combing of the two words
- Aug 15 17 19:51:52 <HeyJude__> gmolly right you are such a model of respect with your endless ranting about the left
- Aug 15 17 19:52:15 <HeyJude__> RockStock hebrew conventions I guess..not that I am expert in hebrew
- Aug 15 17 19:53:01 <johnm> Layder How many has HeyJude__ had?
- Aug 15 17 19:54:01 <HeyJude__> gmolly I guess Rat unbanned you today
- Aug 15 17 19:54:47 <HeyJude__> RockStock i think most use lethal drugs now
- Aug 15 17 19:55:10 <RockStock> HeyJude__: even Utah?
- Aug 15 17 19:55:21 <HeyJude__> RockStock i dont know..google it
- Aug 15 17 19:56:08 <HeyJude__> great quote for my book...wow
- Aug 15 17 19:57:01 <HeyJude__> time for dinner
- Aug 15 17 19:57:05 * HeyJude__ (~Hey@HeyJudee.users.undernet.org) has left
- Oct 18 17 12:46:52 <Harbinger> Aug 15 17 19:12:18 <HeyJude__> the white men have ruled the world..now they have to share the stage and they do not like it
- Nov 29 17 16:11:34 <Harbinger> Aug 15 17 19:12:18 <HeyJude__> the white men have ruled the world..now they have to share the stage and they do not like it
- Nov 29 17 16:13:23 <Harbinger> HeyJude: :Aug 15 17 18:34:57 * HeyJude__ (~Hey@HeyJudee.users.undernet.org) has joined I can post the entire log from that date if you like.
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