zeldadiscussion20140730

1:55 PM - Sora Hjort: (1:51:06 PM) Drakim: about the goddesses in Zelda
(1:51:21 PM) Drakim: Din, the one who is associated with the trifoce of power
(1:51:28 PM) Drakim: it never struck me that she favors Ganon
(1:51:30 PM) Sora(Gmail): and fire
(1:51:37 PM) Drakim: but he is the one who she has given her power to
(1:51:38 PM) Sora(Gmail): does she?
(1:52:02 PM) Sora(Gmail): are you sure it's not a situation of "best suited person" than favorism?
(1:52:18 PM) Drakim: in Twilight Princess, Ganondorf was about to get executed before he was saved by being granted the trifoce of power
(1:52:28 PM) Sora(Gmail): plus, we only see three people who have access to the triforce
(1:52:31 PM) Sora(Gmail): zelda, link, and ganon
(1:53:06 PM) Sora(Gmail): well, ordinarily, there was an example of where it was stolen from one of the holders
(1:53:29 PM) Sora(Gmail): anyway, it's possible there is something naturally ingrained that happened to them in the past, that links their destinies with teh triforce in the never ending cycles
(1:53:56 PM) Drakim: hmm, in Twilight Princess, after Link defeats Ganondoft in close combat, the triforce of power faded from Ganondorf's hand
(1:54:28 PM) Drakim: he is a pretty powerful sorcerer in his own right, maybe it simply seeks out the strongest
1:55 PM - Drakim: I was basically saying that Din, the goddess associated with the triforce of power, favors Ganondorf
1:55 PM - Drakim: ah, sora copypasted
1:55 PM - Sora Hjort: and you didnt :P
1:57 PM - Raptor3k: To a God, what purpose does Good or Evil present?
1:57 PM - Drakim: hmmm
1:58 PM - Raptor3k: you are as you do, and that is Good, but those who do not, are Evil
1:58 PM - Drakim: but wasn't the premise of Windwaker that the three goddesses had flooded the world to stop Ganon?
1:58 PM - Raptor3k: Just throwing in an argument on the 'good' and 'evil' bit. Anyway, Power, Wisdom, and Courage
1:58 PM - Raptor3k: Firwstly, Link earns his courage badge without question
1:59 PM - Raptor3k: Wisdom.............. Why Does Zelda get Wisdom/
1:59 PM - Sora Hjort: cause princess,
1:59 PM - Drakim: hmm
1:59 PM - Sora Hjort: also, when i was saying "maybe something happened in the past", it made me think on skyward sword, and another reason why i just don't think of it being "the first story in zelda's time line"
2:00 PM - Sora Hjort: nothing really seemed to massively happen in it to really make any sort of impact of "their destinies are forever intwined from this life to the end of time"
2:00 PM - Sora Hjort: heck ganon, atleast by name, didn't even show up
2:00 PM - Drakim: hmmm
2:01 PM - Raptor3k: "Because our destinies are like two rivers, that have met and can never be distinct again."
2:01 PM - Raptor3k: >.> wouldn't be a discussion without a LoK quote. Anyway
2:01 PM - Drakim: I wonder if the three trifoce chosen people always appear at the same time (Link to fight Ganon) or if we only see games of when they do (otherwise there wouldn't be any real conflict)
2:01 PM - Sora Hjort: good question
2:02 PM - Drakim: the earlier games are mostly wishy washy on this
2:02 PM - Sora Hjort: oh, OoT, seems more like the "first story" kind of game to me than skyward sword
2:02 PM - Drakim: I mean, Zelda 2 doesn't make much sense
2:02 PM - Drakim: There is a Dark Link for no reason, Ganon is dead but ressurectable
2:02 PM - Raptor3k: steam wants to update
2:03 PM - Raptor3k: Earlier games didn't need to be dee
2:03 PM - Raptor3k: p
2:03 PM - Raptor3k: Here's a sword. Kill stuff
2:03 PM - Raptor3k: The princess is in a castle. save her
2:03 PM - Drakim: yeah, I don't think the first game had anything about the three trifoces at all
2:03 PM - Sora Hjort: *does a google search*
2:04 PM - Sora Hjort: ptffhaha
2:04 PM - Sora Hjort: oh god i remember when these were a thing
2:04 PM - Sora Hjort: http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/triforce-in-ocarina-of-time-and-other-rumors-true-or-false.53630747/
2:04 PM - Drakim: rofl
2:04 PM - Sora Hjort: remember that period of the internet? it seems so long ago now
2:05 PM - Drakim: yeah
2:05 PM - Raptor3k: .....God i wanted to unfreeze that damn lake
2:05 PM - Drakim: now we can find all the secrets by hacking the game open anyways
2:05 PM - Drakim: only glitches are found these days
2:05 PM - Sora Hjort: there's the info i went looking for
2:06 PM - Sora Hjort: in OoT
2:06 PM - Sora Hjort: "She tells Link that when Ganondorf touched the Triforce, it shattered into three pieces representing Courage, Wisdom and Power, because the three virtues were not balanced within him. Ultimately Ganondorf was only able to obtain the Triforce of Power."
2:06 PM - Sora Hjort: from http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time
2:06 PM - Raptor3k: so then neither Link or Zelda were balanced to use the Triforce
2:06 PM - Sora Hjort: THAT very moment seems more like something to happen at the start of their intertwined destinies
2:06 PM - Drakim: so wait
2:06 PM - Drakim: Link has plenty of power
2:06 PM - Drakim: are you saying he is an idiot with no wisdom
2:07 PM - Sora Hjort: drakim, you forget one thing
2:07 PM - Sora Hjort: you gotta beleive in the heart of the cards
2:07 PM - Sora Hjort: ain't that right raptor?
2:07 PM - Sora Hjort: :P
2:07 PM - Drakim: lol
2:07 PM - Drakim: *draws the game winning card from the top of his deck*
2:07 PM - Drakim: man, some people were saying that the Hyrule Warrios game would be the Hyrulean Civil War that happened before the OoT
2:08 PM - Sora Hjort: anyway, hope you kinda atleast see my point on this
2:08 PM - Drakim: but when you look at the cast, it makes zero sense
2:08 PM - Drakim: tons of different people from different time periods
2:08 PM - Sora Hjort: except they already told what the story is
2:08 PM - Drakim: oh?
2:08 PM - Sora Hjort: the timelines and dimensions are being smashed into each other by Cia
2:08 PM - Sora Hjort: who, to me, looks like twinrova
2:08 PM - Raptor3k: the ONLY reason i have intrest is because it looks a lot less like a Dynasty Warriors game so far
2:09 PM - Raptor3k: and they appear to be having fun with the concept
2:09 PM - Sora Hjort: oh, i did think of a TP male character they could add to the cast a couple days ago
2:09 PM - Sora Hjort: i told vast but never got a responce
2:09 PM - Drakim: I've heard that a lot of Dynasty Warriors games let you play a "what if" campain as the bad guys
2:09 PM - Drakim: just for that alone, I woudl get it D:
2:10 PM - Sora Hjort: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LepGlDFhcKM here's the hint to the character
2:10 PM - Raptor3k: ..
2:10 PM - Sora Hjort: i also do hope to beable to runt he villian side of the story as well
2:10 PM - Drakim: oh but wait
2:10 PM - Sora Hjort: also, raptor, before you disagree
2:10 PM - Drakim: if they are gonna mix and match stuff like that Sora
2:10 PM - Sora Hjort: who would you rather have? him, or tingle?
2:10 PM - Drakim: does that mean we might see....a certain mask?
2:10 PM - Sora Hjort: oh i so do hope so
2:11 PM - Sora Hjort: i actually hope it's "ancient majora", as in a take on what he looked like before being sealed into the mask
2:11 PM - Raptor3k: quite
2:12 PM - Drakim: I actually hope that it's skull kid with the mask, but that the special moves unlocks majora's eldric apperances
2:12 PM - Sora Hjort: hmm.... maybe have two versions of the skullkid avalible one good one majora
2:12 PM - Sora Hjort: also, i don't see majora working well with the other villians
2:13 PM - Sora Hjort: which isn't a bad thing story wise, infact, i would find it quite hilarious
2:13 PM - Drakim: I doubt they would work together
2:13 PM - Drakim: more like, separate threats
2:13 PM - Raptor3k: Majora is destruction
2:13 PM - Sora Hjort: majora is chaos
2:14 PM - Drakim: Majora is freaky
2:14 PM - Sora Hjort: majora is love, majora is life
2:14 PM - Sora Hjort: if you don't know that refrence..
2:14 PM - Drakim: I do :p
2:14 PM - Sora Hjort: so does raptor
2:14 PM - Sora Hjort: cause i showed it to him
2:15 PM - Sora Hjort: infact, he might be bleeching his brain right about know because i reminded him
2:15 PM - Sora Hjort: r he's busy
2:19 PM - Sora Hjort: http://zeldawiki.org/Majora%27s_Mask_%28Object%29#Majora.27s_Mask_Creation
2:22 PM - Sora Hjort: During the battle with Majora, if Link listens to what Tatl has to say, her hints sound like the ones given in previous boss fights, but in reverse order and excluding Gyorg. During the battle with the first form, Tatl says to strike it from behind, similar to the weakness of Twinmold.[13] When it transforms into the Incarnation, she tells Link to hit it with his own body, similar to how Goht is defeated, although it is unnecessary to do so.[14] Finally, while battling Majora's Wrath, Tatl says to strike it while it is distracted, almost exactly like how Odolwa is fought.[15]
2:22 PM - Sora Hjort: hmm...
2:23 PM - Sora Hjort: that sounds like there might at some point been a fourth form
2:26 PM - Raptor3k: one involving a kick ass Gorgon chase
2:27 PM - Sora Hjort: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afD3S8TajpE zelda oracle trivia time
2:28 PM - Sora Hjort: also i really do hope that the three oracles make it to hyrule heroes
2:28 PM - Sora Hjort: that would be awwwwwesome