<Marikc0> k
<Marikc0> well
<Vastrix> If you can do that...
<Marikc0> we got the list
<JZTech101> I can do it
<kingpuller> Next thing would be: What kind of platform to use?
<Marikc0> for what
<Vastrix> http://bot.notenoughmods.com/1.5.2.html <-- Your list :)
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<JZTech101> I am not putting in 6000 mods in this thing
<JZTech101> 159 mods*
<Vastrix> 190*
<Marikc0> I've got a 1.5.2 config pack setup, with ogres/fire mobs already nerfed in mocraetures, etc
<JZTech101> Yeah, not happening
<Marikc0> could use it as a baseline lol
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<kingpuller> Like platform to keep the client up2date
<Sp0nge> i got Mo perms, that i could see if i cant alter some for some FTB usage
<Sp0nge> the perms i got is:
<Marikc0> yea forgot about that
<Vastrix> jz can't you import from a txt file?
<JZTech101> No
<kingpuller> http://bot.notenoughmods.com/1.5.2.txt
<Marikc0> theres a csv
<Marikc0> of our list
<kingpuller> simply use this
<Sp0nge> http://www.raceinfo.no/temp/mocreature.jpg
<Sp0nge> so should be possible to have Mo in, and still keep clear of bithcing around
<Vastrix> Guys just for the record, nobody expects this to be a one day job, So lets take the time...
<Marikc0> I can do it in 30 min
<Marikc0> just sayin
<kingpuller> :D
<Vastrix> :)
<Sp0nge> what im saying, i got perms, that i could be using
<Marikc0> jk
<Sp0nge> to avoid community bitching
<kingpuller> Well, you want it to be a public server?
<Marikc0> technically private so
<Vastrix> hmm
<kingpuller> Or more like a whitelisted community server?
<Sp0nge> would NEM have a private server?
<Vastrix> ^
<Marikc0> I'd say NEM only
<Vastrix> ^
<Vastrix> yea
<Sp0nge> i dont belive in whitelist, at all
<JZTech101> I think I can do this. CAn you guys wait 15-20 minutes?
<Vastrix> sure
<kingpuller> JZTech101, the poll?
<JZTech101> Yes I need to enter it all in
<kingpuller> Alright
<Sp0nge> as i see it, its kinda like the MCPC server
<Marikc0> Personally I'd prefer whitelist for NEM-only purposes and freely allow anyone who asks in that does so from the IRC channel
<Sp0nge> for those familiar with that
<Marikc0> only issue is just the hassle of adding people
<Vastrix> evo's gonna be all like "wtf happend in here"
<Sp0nge> Marikc0, the reason i dont like whitelist is that its designed to get forumbumps
<Sp0nge> wherever its posted
<Marikc0> and I'd say for now: call it the "Unofficial Official NEM Server" :P
<Vastrix> If we have the perms we can call if official
<Sp0nge> and ... that whitelist really dont keep out greifers :p
<Marikc0> yea just get it from evo
<Vastrix> ^
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<Fogger> yo
<Vastrix> o/
<kingpuller> Sup froggi
<Sp0nge> i would tbh preferd a NEM op having a saying in this
<kingpuller> D:
<JZTech101> You sure you guys want to answer a poll of 190 questions?
<kingpuller> Can i have op? :b
<Marikc0> Well technically I am a former first-member of the team
<JZTech101> Or should I get rid of the ones I've got no idea bout?
<Vastrix> sure :)
<Fogger> I'm just here for the lols :D
<Marikc0> so you can count my opionion as having some weight :P
<Sp0nge> the way i suggested, i was more thinking of that people of the community could suggest mods, and base a poll on that
<JZTech101> Mine too. I've been with NEM from nearly the beginning
<Vastrix> jz, set the default on "i agree"
<Vastrix> :p
<JZTech101> I can't do that
<JZTech101> Nor would I bother
<Vastrix> k :(
<Marikc0> I have a big mouth
<Marikc0> so I got asked to step down for now :D
<Sp0nge> im tbh not so worried about what mods are added, i really dont play MC at all. What i more focus on is that players have a good time
<JZTech101> I got a better idea. How about this poll based upon Forgecraft/FTB?
<Sp0nge> i havent played MC in over a year
<kingpuller> back in the days, i was administrating your predecessor MCModindex ;)
<JZTech101> I see, so nobody even cares about the poll anymore?
<JZTech101> Then why am I doint it?
<Marikc0> no, still a poll
<Marikc0> and make it a "No i dont want this" poll i guess
<Vastrix> ^
<JZTech101> Well, I doubt people want to answer 190 questions Truee/False.
<Marikc0> ie further the bar is more people dont want the mod
<Marikc0> thats why you do it that way
<Marikc0> so they just say what they dont want
<Sp0nge> the part i think im able to contribute in this with is that i can help (or atleast try) on getting the a possible "pack" approved, however, i know there are alot of  people in here, and NEM, that could do that part way much better than me
<Vastrix> Do we even have a server to run on ?
<Sp0nge> what ive learned about MC so far, is if that you arent approved, you damn shure to be ruled out sooner or later from the entire community (if you based on a playerbase too survive)
<Fogger> question is, who has the bandwidth?
<kingpuller> For now I could host it.
<Sp0nge> i got some to spare, alongside with cores (dont have TT installed yet)
<Fogger> they are the boss, they decide all mods, if we don't like it we can ask nicely
<Sp0nge> but im using MC main port :p
<kingpuller> ~20 people should be fine without any issues
<JZTech101> Actually, I can't do the poll part. For one, the limit is like 10 questions.
<JZTech101> So 190? Absolutely not
<JZTech101> Sorry
<Marikc0> just tell people to email someone the mods you dont want
<Marikc0> or somethin
<Marikc0> or PM it
<kingpuller> JZTech101, maybe make it comment like so people can write what they don't want?
<Sp0nge> i have some pizza to go eat now :p
<Sp0nge> bbl
<JZTech101> idk
<Vastrix> Why don't we just ask them to pm us (one of us) with which mod he/she doesn't want (can't be such a long list)
<JZTech101> I'm lazy. Someone hey Marikc0 you were the one do it before weren't you? why don't you continue. 190 mods feels too much on my shoulders
<Marikc0> Personally I say we start like this: Someone just get the server up and going. We call it a "Community Created" private server for NEM people only.
<Vastrix> ^
<JZTech101> I've got a list of mods I think people will like
<Marikc0> Later we can do some unofficial official shit
<JZTech101> I just don't got the hardware
<Vastrix> I'm with Marikc0
<Marikc0> And while that one is running people give their opinions
<Marikc0> of what they want or dont want
<Marikc0> and we base the next server off that
<Vastrix> yea
<kingpuller> Well, Marikc0 and me got some packs already going, we could some kind of fuse them / remove some mods and get it going?
<Marikc0> works for me
<Vastrix> sure
<Marikc0> oh by platform you meant
<Marikc0> TP or whatever
<Fogger> more fuze, less remove ;)
<JZTech101> Sounds good. I got a single pack that is loosely based off of FTB Ultimate. (I removed a couple mods that were useless)
<JZTech101> If you want, I can send it you someone to host
<Marikc0> Let me upload a list of the mods I have in my 1.5.2 and if you have a list of yours
<JZTech101> I've got a list
<Marikc0> we can decide what we want/dont want from there i guess
<Marikc0> cool upload it
<JZTech101> Here -> http://pastebin.com/rkxCkTZU
<Marikc0> http://pastebin.com/9PHvqCje
<JZTech101> I don't see the point of compact windmills
<Marikc0> yea
<JZTech101> Mekanism is unstable
<Marikc0> id say arsmagica no for now
<JZTech101> Mod Creatures yaaa uh NO
<Vastrix> hats! :)
<Marikc0> sure why not
<kingpuller> Coremods: http://puu.sh/30Y67.txt  Mods: http://puu.sh/30Y6p.txt
<Marikc0> lol
<JZTech101> Compact or Advanced Solars - you choose
<JZTech101> We do not need both
<Marikc0> why not
<Marikc0> :P
<Marikc0> advanced I guess
<kingpuller> sorry for the german btw :b
<JZTech101> And Stacky and switches I don't like
<JZTech101> Galatic craft is too buggy atm
<Vastrix> natura + tinkers ?
<JZTech101> Unless you want a crashy server, good luck
<JZTech101> Sure Vastrix
<Marikc0> Ok im gonna just use my instance as a baseline for now
<Marikc0> removed switches/stacky
<JZTech101> INpure tools? ABSOLUTELY NOT
<Marikc0> and mekanism
<Marikc0> cool?
<JZTech101> I DON't WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH RP2
<Vastrix> yep
<JZTech101> Marikc0: And Mocreatures
<JZTech101> GEt rid of that SHIT
<Marikc0> moc, gone, anyone not okw tih that
<kingpuller> Stackie is actually good to keep the server from lagging
<kingpuller> Stackie should stay in
<Marikc0> yea i was wondering about that
<JZTech101> And whats wrong with Ars Magica beta?
<Vastrix> the beta part
<Marikc0> k stackie back in
<JZTech101> I want Ars Magica in there
<Marikc0> not much reason to have it without moc
<kingpuller> Ars Magica has a lot potencial for griefing imo
<JZTech101> And all of the HUD mods out
<Vastrix> yea plus it has a dupe bug
<Vastrix> a major one
<Marikc0> yea im gonna say i vote no for it since this is a tech pack really anyway
<Vastrix> ^
<JZTech101> And the HUD mods need to go
<kingpuller> What do you have against HUD mods?
<Marikc0> well the client side mods are for the clients to add
<kingpuller> true
<Vastrix> yea
<Marikc0> ignore those :P
<JZTech101> Oh, ok. Well I'm not adding it then
<kingpuller> we could provide a minimap
<kingpuller> rest should be up to the client
<Marikc0> so yes/no on windmills
<JZTech101> no
<Marikc0> id say keep it if it doesnt have lagpotential
<kingpuller> windmills?
<Marikc0> not sure if it does
<JZTech101> no because it is useless
<Marikc0> yea compact kinda like compact solars
<Marikc0> more powerful
<JZTech101> Extra Utilities I like though
<Fogger> you're missing the point of NEM "Not Enough Mods"!
<kingpuller> Indeed :D
<kingpuller> keep the windmills then :)
<JZTech101> Ok, fine keep useless mods in there. idc
<Fogger> \o/
<JZTech101> Fine NEM, then whats wrong with Ars Magica
<Marikc0> as long as they dont hurt
<JZTech101> It stil lgoes with that theme
<Vastrix> ars is bugged
<JZTech101> No it isn't
<JZTech101> I use it regularly
<Vastrix> me 2
<kingpuller> btw Marikc0 update your thaumcraft :b :D
<Vastrix> but it has a major gupe bug
<Marikc0> XD
<kingpuller> extracells 1.0.9 (1.5.2).zip
<kingpuller> what does it do?
<Marikc0> storage
<Fogger> the only thing that should keep a mod off the server is if it's buggy enough to kill a server
<Marikc0> for AE
<kingpuller> Ah
<Marikc0> just more cell sizes
<Marikc0> like the disks or whatever you put in chests
<JZTech101> Fogger: like Mo'creatures for example
<Fogger> indeed
<JZTech101> It has crashed more server then I can count
<JZTech101> But Ars MAgica should stay in that case. I t hasn't crashed one on me
<Fogger> but only until it's fixed :D
<JZTech101> And I use it ALOT
<Marikc0> openccsensors?
<kingpuller> Ars crashed my server several times, also very buggy "Magic Levels" imo
<Fogger> SimplyHorses can fill in until then
<kingpuller> Sure, also add miscperipherals?
<JZTech101> sure
<kingpuller> Really like to work with CC
<Vastrix> yea
<Marikc0> k pause a sec
<Marikc0> what are we adding that was not in my list
<JZTech101> Ars Magica
<JZTech101> Miscperipherals
<kingpuller> EE3?
<Marikc0> whats the vote for ars?
<JZTech101> EE3
<Marikc0> I'm nay on Ars :P
<kingpuller> I don't think Ars should be in YET
<JZTech101> YES
<Marikc0> 2:1
<Marikc0> anyone else?
<Vastrix> yea pass
<Marikc0> 3:1
<Marikc0> ask in nme
<Vastrix> really?
<kingpuller> Marikc0, you don't have BuildCraft? o:
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<Marikc0> what, i dont?
<kingpuller> shame on you
<Marikc0> the hell
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<Marikc0> woops
<kingpuller> BC and ABO should be in
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<kingpuller> LogisticsPipes would be awesome as well
<Vastrix> where is yur mods list mark?
<kingpuller> http://pastebin.com/9PHvqCje
<Marikc0> someone link him
<kingpuller> Thats his
<Marikc0> nm
<Marikc0> mods folder anyway
<Marikc0> why the hell dont I have BC
<Marikc0> lol
<kingpuller> What about Immibscore and dimensional anchors?
<kingpuller> we got chunkloaders
<JZTech101> Tube Stuff
<kingpuller> by railcraft and chickenchunks
<Marikc0> Id say yea to all those
<kingpuller> What exactly do they add?
<JZTech101> And Extra Utilities
<Marikc0> whats what add
<JZTech101> Several useful blocks
<kingpuller> Like the immibis mods
<Vastrix> The rest looks all fine to me actually
<Marikc0> depends on the mod
<Marikc0> anchors is just a chunk loader
<kingpuller> Yeah, i guess we have several better alternatives for that
<Vastrix> I'd say we go witch ChickenChunks chunkloaders
<Marikc0> yea
<Marikc0> im with that
<kingpuller> yeah, with fuel dependency?
<JZTech101> Chicken Chunks? NOOOOO
<JZTech101> It causes Chunk Resets regularly
<kingpuller> It never caused for me
<Vastrix> ?
<JZTech101> Certainly has for me
<Vastrix> nt for me either
<Marikc0> hats?
<Marikc0> y/n
<JZTech101> Sure
<Vastrix> yey
<kingpuller> Yeah :D
<Vastrix> portalgun
<Marikc0> pg ok for a server?
<Marikc0> never used on on a server
<JZTech101> Sure
<Vastrix> think its ok
<kingpuller> since it requires a netherstar
<kingpuller> yep
<JZTech101> Gravigun would be even better :)
<Marikc0> nay on grav
<Marikc0> lol
<JZTech101> O C'mon, its fun. Just throw people in the air
<Vastrix> hmm
<Vastrix> yea that part nay
<kingpuller> ^ typical griefer
<JZTech101> I am not a griefer
<Vastrix> pvp on or off ?
<Marikc0> off
<JZTech101> I just watch Direwolf
<Marikc0> 100%
<JZTech101> Off
<Vastrix> i'd say off
<kingpuller> Why exactly off?
<Marikc0> i dont like being pk'd lol
<kingpuller> Well, it is a friendly server
<JZTech101> On this server, someone want to partner up with me?
<Vastrix> ^
<kingpuller> but pvp should be on
<Marikc0> does hats require ichunutil
<JZTech101> I believe so
<Vastrix> dunno
<Vastrix> its on nem
<JZTech101> pvp needs to be off
<JZTech101> This is not a griefing server
<Marikc0> id say off for now and if people complain enough we can just change it easy
<Vastrix> Doesn't look like it needs ichunutil
<kingpuller> pvp on is not = griefing
<kingpuller> pvp is just a factor that you have to care where you hit
<JZTech101> REally? So other than killing people and gathering there items what other point is there?
<kingpuller> Its just about realism
<Vastrix> pvp is kinda stressfull
<JZTech101> You want realism? Retep998 has a BTW server
<JZTech101> Should go join him
<JZTech101> You ^
<kingpuller> Common, could you stop it?
<kingpuller> Trying to discuss things here in a normal way
<Vastrix> I'd say we start with off, and see hw it goes
<JZTech101> Agreed ^
<Marikc0> updating my nme server instance in mmc so we can keep track
<JZTech101> mediafire the zip so we can all download
<Marikc0> i have a dropbox
<Marikc0> project bench?
<JZTech101> Dropbox takes 1/2hour
<JZTech101> Sure
<kingpuller> What about denoflions mods like PluginsForForestry, denPipes, INpureTools, ZombieFleshtoLeather?
<Marikc0> gonna take that long anway I have slow upload :P
<JZTech101> Media Fire takes 5-10 minutes
<kingpuller> Marikc0, maybe only upload the configs?
<JZTech101> Just use MediaFire. AS long as its not .jar file, we should be ok
<JZTech101> No
<JZTech101> The whole client
<JZTech101> kingpuller: we do not need his useless mods
<Marikc0> Actually
<kingpuller> useless in your opinion
<Vastrix> Do you have a list of all the mods we're gonna use?
<Marikc0> I could technically make another TP
<JZTech101> TP?
<Marikc0> technicplatform
<JZTech101> Then go ahead and do that
<kingpuller> base it on svn maybe? so it doesnt need to download the whole client when you update only few mods?
<JZTech101> Does he even know how to use SVN?
<Marikc0> Well, first thing is first. Someone has to test all the mods in a server. So I can get this instance working then send the config pack to whoever is going to make the server.
<JZTech101> Not me
<kingpuller> svn is simple
<kingpuller> and i can test them if you want
<JZTech101> I don't got no hardware to test it/make it
<Marikc0> think its already working
<Marikc0> had most of the mods in already
<kingpuller> can you post a current modlist?
<Vastrix> ^
<kingpuller> Oh, did gregtech get a clear no now?
<Marikc0> http://i.imgur.com/K7nJMdb.png
<kingpuller> whats this furniture mod?
<Marikc0> http://i.imgur.com/C2nwA2t.png
<Marikc0> just some lamps and stuff
<Vastrix> Il write it all down
<Vastrix> Stand By...
<kingpuller> and TreeCapitator? Really think it should get in?
<Marikc0> I dunno
<Marikc0> not sure how it'll effect a server with more than 2-3 people
<kingpuller> imo, it should be removed
<Marikc0> k
<Marikc0> removed
<kingpuller> What about LogisticsPipes, MFFS and MFR?
<JZTech101> Keep!