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Manipless Red Strats

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  1. NOTE: All these strats assume no chance for Thunderbolt. If he can Thunderbolt, you can't ever predict his moves, so a perfect setup isn't achievable. So do general hope to live and land a GI strats.
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  5. Pikachu has 186 HP
  6. Will Heal at 45 or Below. Thus, 141 Recoil is too much. So don't do over 140 with the first two hits. 140 is OK.
  7.  
  8. Aim to do ~113-140 instead, and then have it kill Snorlax from full.
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  10. A half HP Gyarados & 2 Snorlax kills generally gets there
  11. (Snorlax matters more)
  12. 2 Snorlax + Kenya + Quilava always gets there.
  13. L31 Kenya + Max Recoil Gyarados (237+) + Max Recoil HP Snorlax (234+) gets there.
  14.  
  15. Snorlax has 220 - 235 HP. This is 73 - 78 Recoil.
  16. Gyarados has 216 - 238 HP. This is 72 - 79 Recoil
  17. At Half, this mean 108 - 119 HP. This is 36 - 39 HP.
  18. L31 Kenya has 87 HP, therefore 29 recoil (28 if L30, 27 if L29)
  19. Quilava has 55 - 51 HP. This is 18 - 20 Recoil.
  20. Sentret has 13 - 16 HP. This is 4 - 5 Recoil.
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  22.  
  23. Gyarados usually comes in at ~80% after Blue.
  24.  
  25. So, math whether Gyarados + Snorlax will put to heal. E.g. Gyarados at 180 HP is 60, and Snorlax at 230 HP is 76. 60 + 76 = 136, does not put to heal.
  26.  
  27. Also math whether half Gyarados + 2 Snorlax will kill to be sure.
  28.  
  29. Almost never want to heal Gyarados after Blue, but if somehow below half you may want to Super Potion.
  30.  
  31. If Snorlax has bad Defense, AND Current Gyarados HP + Snorlax will put to heal AND Gyarados + Snorlax + Kenya will kill, then heal Gyarados to full.
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  35. If 100% VT (Great Defense):
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  37. If god HP on both + L31+ Kenya:
  38. Lead Snorlax, switch to Gyarados
  39. Send out Snorlax, switch to Kenya
  40. Send out Snorlax, Max Revive Gyarados. Die, get Blastoise.
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  43.  
  44. Gyarados + Snorlax won't put to heal HP:
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  46. Lead Snorlax, switching to Gyarados.
  47. Send back out Snorlax, Max Revive Gyarados
  48. Send out slave, Max Revive Snorlax
  49. Send out Snorlax, die, get Blastoise.
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  52.  
  53. Gyarados + Snorlax will put to heal HP:
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  55. Lead Snorlax, switch to Kenya.
  56. Send out Snorlax, switch to Quilava.
  57. Send out Snorlax, revive a slave.
  58. Send out slave, Max Revive Snorlax.
  59. Send out Snorlax, die, get Blastoise.
  60.  
  61. OR
  62.  
  63. Lead Snorlax, switch to Gyarados
  64. Send out slave, Max Revive Gyarados.
  65. Send out Gyarados, switch to slave.
  66. Send out Snorlax, Giga impact to kill.
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  68. (slightly riskier but faster as have to hit a GI)
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  71.  
  72. If in IT range, (Medium-Bad Defense)
  73.  
  74. Gyarados + Snorlax won't put to heal:
  75.  
  76. Lead Gyarados, die.
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  78. IF VT: Go Snorlax, Max Revive Gyarados.
  79. Send out slave, Max Revive Snorlax
  80. Send out Snorlax, die.
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  83. IF TB: Go Snorlax, Revive Gyarados
  84. Send out slave, Max Revive Snorlax
  85. Send out Snorlax, switch to Gyarados
  86. Send out Snorlax, use Crunch (If either def gonna die, Rev)
  87. Max Revive Gyarados as Blastoise kills.
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  90.  
  91. Gyarados + Snorlax will put to heal:
  92. Lead Gyarados, die
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  94. IF VT: Go Snorlax, Max Revive Gyarados
  95. Send out Gyarados: X Speed, WF.
  96.  
  97. OR If Gyarados + Snorlax + Kenya will kill.
  98. Go Snorlax, switch to Kenya
  99. Send out Snorlax, Max Revive Gyarados.
  100. Send out slave, Max Revive Snorlax.
  101. Send out Snorlax, die, get Blastoise.
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  103. -
  104. IF TB: Go Snorlax, Revive Gyarados
  105. Send out slave, Max Revive Snorlax
  106. Send out Snorlax, switch to Gyarados
  107. Send out Snorlax, Crunch. (If either def gonna die, Rev)
  108. Max Revive Gyarados as Blastoise kills.
  109.  
  110. OR If god HP + L30+ Kenya:
  111. Go Snorlax, switch to Kenya
  112. Send out Snorlax, (Max) Revive Gyarados.
  113. Send out slave, Max Revive Snorlax.
  114. Send out Snorlax, die, get Blastoise.
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  117.  
  118. Snorlax thresholds:
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  120. 81 Defense or less: Can always get Iron Tail at +0
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  122. 82: Max roll is 233
  123. 83: Max roll is 230
  124. 84: Max roll is 227
  125. 85: Max roll is 224
  126. 86: Max roll is 222
  127.  
  128. 88+: Max roll is 217 or lower, so never chooses.
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  130. -
  131.  
  132. 116 Sp Def or better: Max roll is 219 or lower, so never chooses.
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  134. 115: Max roll is 220
  135. 114: Max roll is 222
  136. 113: Max roll is 225
  137. 112: Max roll is 226
  138. 111: Max roll is 228
  139. 110: Max roll is 231
  140. 109: Max roll is 232
  141. 108: Max roll is 234
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  143. 107-: Max roll is 237 or higher, so can always get TB.
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