ClaireFarron

23:41	Candygoose	CLAAAAAAAAAAIRE
23:41	Candygoose	yer a man babeeeh!
23:41	ClaireFarron	who are you?
23:41	ClaireFarron	oh
23:41	Candygoose	An old friend :3
23:41	ClaireFarron	pirate guy
23:41	Candygoose	pirate?
23:41	Candygoose	no no
23:41	Candygoose	a friend of his those
23:42	Candygoose	though
23:42	Candygoose	;3
23:42	ClaireFarron	who are you the?
23:42	Candygoose	well not really a friend of his, just someone who goes to his site
23:42	ClaireFarron	I've never met you
23:42	Candygoose	I just watch Autphag and his degenerate boyfriend Negi
23:42	ClaireFarron	and im not a man
23:42	Candygoose	sure sure
23:43	ClaireFarron	where do you know me fro,?
23:43	ClaireFarron	from*
23:43	Candygoose	You are whatever gender God the Father gave you at birth.
23:43	Candygoose	WCG
23:43	ClaireFarron	wtf is that?
23:43	Candygoose	;3
23:43	ClaireFarron	fine, if you don't have the balls to tell me
23:43	Candygoose	CLAIRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
23:44	Candygoose	You're right, I don't have balls but you do! :3
23:44	ClaireFarron	you're a woman?
23:44	Candygoose	No I'm just a confectionery
23:44	ClaireFarron	why are you trying to have a go at me?
23:44	ClaireFarron	what have i done to you?
23:44	Candygoose	I'm not trying to have a go at anyone
23:44	Candygoose	wanna smoke some ganja mate?
23:45	ClaireFarron	then why the insults?
23:45	ClaireFarron	i don't smoke
23:45	Candygoose	What insult?
23:45	Candygoose	Aww come on, a little mary jane will take the edge off
23:45	ClaireFarron	edge off what?
23:45	Candygoose	Your nerves
23:45	ClaireFarron	you know nothing about me
23:46	Candygoose	of course I do!
23:46	ClaireFarron	how?
23:46	Candygoose	Because ;3
23:46	ClaireFarron	oh fuck..
23:46	ClaireFarron	it's you.
23:46	Candygoose	Yes, its me
23:46	ClaireFarron	something hat
23:46	Candygoose	hat?
23:46	ClaireFarron	the guy i thought was my friend
23:46	ClaireFarron	tanukihaty
23:46	Candygoose	wait nope
23:47	Candygoose	sorry I'm affiliated with 888chan
23:47	ClaireFarron	then who are you?
23:47	ClaireFarron	then how do you know what im like or who i am?
23:47	Candygoose	the site that Negi and Autphag keep talking about
23:47	ClaireFarron	you know nothing about me
23:47	Candygoose	Because I've idled in your chat a few times ;3
23:47	ClaireFarron	ive also never been on 888chan
23:47	ClaireFarron	you're not Rose, are you?
23:48	ClaireFarron	how am I a man?
23:48	Candygoose	Rose?
23:48	Candygoose	Who are all these people
23:48	ClaireFarron	people who i consdered fried once
23:48	Candygoose	no no
23:48	ClaireFarron	and were just waiting for me to turn my back to stab it
23:49	Candygoose	I've just been watching and talking to Autphag and Negi for some time and then you appeared. So i've decided to chat with you ;3
23:49	ClaireFarron	who are you?
23:49	ClaireFarron	Sophie isn't online
23:50	Candygoose	I know and Negi is trying to ignore me, so I decided to talk with the only other person that stuck out ;3
23:50	ClaireFarron	wwhy do I stick out?
23:50	Candygoose	>"Sophie, you are welcome to my chatroom any time."
23:50	ClaireFarron	sophie is
23:51	ClaireFarron	i don't know you.
23:51	Candygoose	I'm just curious do you know Sophie is a transvestite?
23:51	ClaireFarron	she is not.
23:51	Candygoose	yes
23:51	ClaireFarron	that would imply shes a male who gets sexual satisfaction from wearing female clothes
23:51	ClaireFarron	and she's not.
23:51	Candygoose	http://888chan.org/cow/res/42995.html the top image is "sophie"
23:51	Candygoose	thats a man, sweetie
23:52	ClaireFarron	no,
23:52	ClaireFarron	that's a transgirl before she has trasitioned
23:53	Candygoose	Sorry but you cannot change your gender.
23:53	ClaireFarron	yes you can
23:53	Candygoose	This is why i find you interesting claire. People like you are very interesting ;3
23:53	ClaireFarron	its sex that can't be changed
23:53	ClaireFarron	why am i interesting?
23:53	Candygoose	Because you think that apples can become oranges. :3
23:54	ClaireFarron	...
23:54	ClaireFarron	its sex that can't be changed
23:54	ClaireFarron	gender can be
23:54	ClaireFarron	and frequently is
23:54	Candygoose	by sexual degenerates yes
23:54	ClaireFarron	so, the fact i look female means nothing?
23:54	ClaireFarron	or live, ad identify as one.
23:55	ClaireFarron	with no sexual satisfaction from it whatsoever?
23:55	Candygoose	Post a pic and I will decide if you look female ;3
23:55	ClaireFarron	go fuck yourself
23:55	Candygoose	Ach, such anger
23:55	ClaireFarron	im not posting shit to you
23:55	Candygoose	Im just having friendly conversation
23:55	ClaireFarron	no, you're a judgemental biggot
23:55	ClaireFarron	and likely religious
23:56	ClaireFarron	this conversation is well over
23:56	Candygoose	No no, I'm not saying you should be killed or anything
23:56	Candygoose	You're free to practice whatever deviancy you wish
23:56	Candygoose	I just wanted to talk ;3
23:56	ClaireFarron	how am i deviant?
23:56	ClaireFarron	i have fetishes and fantasies, but none of them come from being female
23:57	Candygoose	Its okay, You dont have to justify yourself to me, I don't care what you do in your private time
23:57	ClaireFarron	fine.. im sure ill regret this shit but whatever. Here's a 2 year old picture
23:57	ClaireFarron	http://imgur.com/jVJpdix
Candygoose	Yeah I'm not convinced but anyway, I don't care what you do. You're free to practice whatever deviancy you wish. I'm just curious as to your opinion of Sophie
23:58	ClaireFarron	convinced of what?
23:58	Candygoose	that you are female
23:58	Candygoose	or that you look it
23:59	ClaireFarron	two years old. ive changed a lot and i pass fine IRl
23:59	ClaireFarron	i don't have to justify shit to you.
23:59	ClaireFarron	you're an arse. as i thought.
00:00	ClaireFarron	hence i didn't give you a recent picture
00:00	Candygoose	Like i said, I don't hate you for your lifestyle
00:00	Candygoose	Maybe you have progressed
00:00	Candygoose	who knows what hormones can do
00:00	ClaireFarron	you can think what you like, but my voie is flawless and people don't have a clue
00:00	ClaireFarron	voice*
00:01	Candygoose	See thats the beauty of opinions
00:01	Candygoose	I can think what I like
00:01	Candygoose	and you can think what you like
00:01	ClaireFarron	i think i don't pass
00:01	Candygoose	there is no need for fighting or arguing see
00:01	ClaireFarron	society tells me otherwise
00:01	ClaireFarron	i personally hate my appearance
00:02	Candygoose	That's unfortunate
00:02	Candygoose	You should have more confidence in yourself
00:05	Candygoose	A little confidence goes a long way
00:05	Candygoose	Anyway tootles, ClaireFarron. We'll keep in to touch.
00:07	ClaireFarron	my net died
00:07	ClaireFarron	why can i not post in the channel?
00:08	Candygoose	Negi has probably muted everyone except for a select group of people
00:08	ClaireFarron	negi?
00:08	Candygoose	NegiSpringField, "Sophie"'s e-boyfriend/toolbag
00:09	ClaireFarron	why do you call her Sophie if you don't consider her female?
00:09	ClaireFarron	or me for that matter?
00:10	Candygoose	I put sophie in quotation marks to denote sarcasm.
00:10	Candygoose	As for you, I have no other name to call you by.
00:10	ClaireFarron	but you call me Claire
00:10	ClaireFarron	so if you knew my birthname you'd call me that>?
00:10	Candygoose	probably
00:11	Candygoose	probably
00:11	Candygoose	or some derivative of it
00:11	ClaireFarron	then this conversation is over.
00:11	Candygoose	why were talking so peacefully until now
00:11	ClaireFarron	because you clearly don't respect people in my position.
00:11	Candygoose	what position is that?
00:12	ClaireFarron	being a transsexual
00:12	Candygoose	how do i not respect you? Do you see me calling for your death or trying to convert you to my religion.
00:13	ClaireFarron	no, but you refuse to acknowledge me as female
00:13	ClaireFarron	and you said i don't look it.
00:14	Candygoose	So? It is a mere difference of opinion. I'm not saying you should be jailed or silenced. I am merely stating my opinion of your lifestyle choice.
00:14	ClaireFarron	but it's not a lifestyle or a choice
00:15	Candygoose	I guess we can agree to disagree on that then :3
00:15	ClaireFarron	except how was it a choice?
00:16	Candygoose	Why must you dwell on that point? Surely that is not all that defines you?
00:16	ClaireFarron	i don't like being told the way i live now was a choice
00:16	ClaireFarron	i was miserable for 22 years as a guy
00:16	ClaireFarron	i couldn't go on
00:17	ClaireFarron	my only "choice" was to continue living and transition, or fucking killmyself.
00:17	ClaireFarron	seem like a fair choice to you?
00:17	Candygoose	It was an unnecessary choice
00:17	ClaireFarron	elaborate
00:18	Candygoose	You could always have stayed a male and not kill yourself.
00:18	ClaireFarron	that was never an option
00:19	Candygoose	Why not?
00:21	ClaireFarron	because if i had done that I'd be dead anyway, abusing alcohol adnd just trying to escape the pain of living
00:21	ClaireFarron	so in the long run there's no choice
00:21	ClaireFarron	I'm either alive and female, or I'm dead
00:22	Candygoose	how has "turning into a girl" changed your life?
00:22	ClaireFarron	I don't feel as sick to my stomach when i look in the mirror
00:22	ClaireFarron	though i still see a boy
00:23	Candygoose	so basically you just tricked yourself into thinking you have changed when you really havent
00:24	ClaireFarron	i don't see a change
00:24	ClaireFarron	but society does
00:24	ClaireFarron	so im forced to accept i pass
00:25	Candygoose	I don't society thinks that at all
00:25	Candygoose	at most, most people just seen a confused young man
00:25	ClaireFarron	why don't you think that?
00:26	ClaireFarron	umm, no I get referred to as female constatly, before i open my mouth or anything
00:26	ClaireFarron	society sees me as female
00:26	Candygoose	They are just being polite
00:26	ClaireFarron	even if i don't
00:26	ClaireFarron	you think they're humouring me?
00:26	Candygoose	Yeah
00:26	Candygoose	But look
00:26	Candygoose	its nothing to get sad about
00:26	Candygoose	Im sure you can be a normal guy
00:26	Candygoose	I get it
00:26	ClaireFarron	you're a dumbarse... straight guys hit on me, what makes you think society is just humoruing me?
00:27	Candygoose	you have self image issues
00:27	ClaireFarron	humouring*
00:27	Candygoose	Those arent straight guys then
00:27	ClaireFarron	yes, they are.
00:27	ClaireFarron	when they find out about the penis they usually ditch me
00:27	Candygoose	No, I'm sorry but they aren't.
00:27	ClaireFarron	that's not straight?
00:27	Candygoose	Look I'm trying to help you.
00:27	ClaireFarron	help me how?
00:27	ClaireFarron	what makes you think they're just humouring me?
00:28	Candygoose	I'm trying to tell you that you don't need change to be happy.
00:28	ClaireFarron	what makes you think they're just humouring me?
00:28	Candygoose	at least, not fake change.
00:28	Candygoose	Because you don't pass, 99% of your kind don't
00:28	ClaireFarron	i pass fine
00:28	Candygoose	Its nothing to be ashamed of
00:29	Candygoose	I'm just saying, you can be happy and not live a lie.
00:29	ClaireFarron	im very glad i didn't show you a recet picture
00:29	ClaireFarron	as i thought you're a dick
00:29	ClaireFarron	but regardless, society sees me as female
00:29	ClaireFarron	i know for a fact.
00:29	ClaireFarron	i have had it tested several times
00:29	ClaireFarron	usuallly ciswomen get uncomfortable in female toilets with transpeople
00:29	ClaireFarron	they don't with me
00:29	ClaireFarron	ashamed of what?
00:29	ClaireFarron	I pass fine
00:29	ClaireFarron	i don't have to justify anything to you
00:29	Candygoose	You don't seem entirely convinced yourself.
00:30	Candygoose	I'm not saying you have to justify anything.
00:30	ClaireFarron	i know for a fact, society sees me as female
00:30	ClaireFarron	no, I'm surprised by it
00:30	ClaireFarron	even in "boy mode" they think im female
00:30	Candygoose	The only people in society that see you as female are the crazed social justice drones from tumblr
00:30	Candygoose	Everyone else is just being polite
00:30	Candygoose	or just really dense
00:31	ClaireFarron	why are they being polite?
00:31	Candygoose	Would you rather them throw stones at you?
00:31	ClaireFarron	I'm not drop dead gorgeous, but I look female. it's the only explanation
00:31	ClaireFarron	how else would they think im female in boy mode?
00:31	Candygoose	I really doubt that has happened
00:31	Candygoose	either that or it happened while the person was drunk
00:32	ClaireFarron	why? because you think I'm ugly?
00:32	Candygoose	I dont think you're ugly
00:32	Candygoose	I think you are fairly normal looking young man
00:32	ClaireFarron	but im not a man
00:32	ClaireFarron	that's over 2 years old
00:32	ClaireFarron	i don't look like that anymore
00:32	ClaireFarron	retard
00:32	ClaireFarron	i just wanted to gauge your response
00:33	Candygoose	Why are you getting so defensive claire?
00:33	ClaireFarron	because people like you make me fucking sick to my stomach
00:33	Candygoose	I don't want to make you feel bad if that is what you are thinking
00:33	ClaireFarron	really? because if it were anyone else they'd be bawling their eyes out and telling you they hate you.
00:33	ClaireFarron	you're not making me feel bad, but you're making me pissed off at how you view other girls who don't pass.
00:34	Candygoose	You don't seem to understand
00:34	Candygoose	even guys that "pass" aren't girls to me
00:34	Candygoose	they are just guys that look like girls
00:34	ClaireFarron	so im a guy that looks like a girl to you?
00:35	Candygoose	No, you are still fail to pass by your people's standards, you look like an average guy
00:35	Candygoose	But what I'm saying is
00:35	Candygoose	There is nothing wrong with being an average guy
00:35	ClaireFarron	how am I fail?
00:35	Candygoose	an average guy can still have happiness
00:35	ClaireFarron	first of all there's way more maculine girls out there that are cis, and secondly
00:35	ClaireFarron	that's an ancient photo you dunce
00:35	Candygoose	Jawline and brow structure etc
00:36	Candygoose	okay then show me a recent one
00:36	ClaireFarron	what's wrong with my brow?
00:36	ClaireFarron	forget it
00:36	Candygoose	it looks masculine
00:36	Candygoose	Look I'm just trying to help you
00:36	ClaireFarron	I'm just trying to tell you you're a fuckwit and don't get it
00:36	ClaireFarron	goodbye
00:36	Candygoose	Aww.
00:36	Candygoose
00:37	Candygoose	Well okay Claire
00:37	Candygoose	I'll see you later then
00:37	ClaireFarron	no
00:37	ClaireFarron	you will not
00:37	Candygoose	I hope you will be more understanding in the future
00:37	ClaireFarron	i dislike you greatly
00:37	Candygoose	I really don't wanna see you go down this path.
00:37	ClaireFarron	and hope your ignorance never spreads
00:37	Candygoose	Why?
00:37	Candygoose	I just want to prevent another suicide or ruined life
00:37	Candygoose	That's all this leads to you, you know?
00:38	ClaireFarron	this prevented me suiciding
00:38	ClaireFarron	also shall i poit out that older pic I never used makeup?
00:38	ClaireFarron	ever.
00:38	ClaireFarron	that was without makeup.
00:38	Candygoose	No it didn't, just your sense of self preservation protected you from suicide
00:39	ClaireFarron	no, If i was refused to transition, I had already planned to kill myself
00:39	Candygoose	Why are you going to keep telling me about how that old pic doesnt count even though you showed it to me to try and prove your point.
00:39	ClaireFarron	i had the method and the tools
00:39	Candygoose	You set a mental trap for yourself
00:39	Candygoose	you convinced yourself that becoming a "woman" would somehow solve your problems.
00:39	ClaireFarron	are you religious? i have to know
00:39	Candygoose	Hm?
00:39	Candygoose	not really that much no
00:40	ClaireFarron	it didn't solve my problems, but im happier
00:40	Candygoose	But its a false happiness and in the end, those feelings will come back.
00:40	Candygoose	That's all Claire, I just want you to become actually happy.
00:40	ClaireFarron	that ill want to be a guy again?
00:41	ClaireFarron	god, your ignorance knows no fucking bounds. -.- we're done here. Educate yourself.
00:41	Candygoose	What I'm saying is, convincing yourself that you are a girl is a lie you made yourself to seem happy
00:42	Candygoose	You basically admitted that your happiness depends on whether or not people accept you as a girl
00:42	Candygoose	You said that you werent convinced that you passed and that the only thing keeping you happy was that people acknowledged that you "passed."
00:42	Candygoose	I'm saying your happiness shouldn't be based on such a thing.
00:42	ClaireFarron	no quotation marks
00:42	ClaireFarron	that i passed
00:42	Candygoose	Happiness should come from within.
00:43	ClaireFarron	i have low self esteem. i judge mysefl from how other perceive me
00:43	ClaireFarron	because my perception is fallible
00:43	ClaireFarron	i know for a fact people aren't humouring me and being polite.
00:43	Candygoose	No, that is just your fallible perception ClaireFarron
00:43	ClaireFarron	I used to get called sir all the time
00:44	Candygoose	you think people aren't humoring you because your perception is fallible.
00:44	ClaireFarron	haven't had it in a good year or so
00:44	ClaireFarron	i ave no choice in the face of undisputable proof to believe I pass regardless of what i think.
00:44	Candygoose	I just wish you would stop painting me as the bad person here, I'm just trying to offer guidance to a stranger in need
00:45	Candygoose	You think you have no choice because the alternative would be suicidally depressing truth.
00:45	ClaireFarron	you're a terrible person know why? you're not malicious. you pass off your own opinion as fact, you condescend me at every turn and you generally believe you're in the right
00:45	ClaireFarron	people like you are why i despise the human race
00:45	Candygoose	I'm not trying to condescend you
00:46	Candygoose	I'm not saying I'm better than you
00:46	Candygoose	or that I'm smarter than you
00:46	Candygoose	I'm just saying you are so afraid of being heart that you aren't willing to see the truth or accepting true happiness.
00:46	ClaireFarron	you most certainly aren't that
00:46	ClaireFarron	the truth is everyone thinks im female
00:46	Candygoose	Insults claire? Really? I'm just trying to help.
00:47	ClaireFarron	fuck it, I'm done
00:47	ClaireFarron	you're not helping anyone
00:47	ClaireFarron	you're part of the problem
00:47	Candygoose	Okay, what would you like me to do Claire?
00:48	ClaireFarron	get off your high horse ad realise your opinion does not make it fact.
00:48	Candygoose	but the thing is
00:48	Candygoose	I stated very early on
00:48	Candygoose	that I had my opinions
00:48	Candygoose	and you had yours
00:48	Candygoose	You were the one trying to convince me that your opinions were fact
00:49	ClaireFarron	yes, and I've had numerous confirmations I pass over your one crappy argument over a picture that's over 2 years old
00:49	ClaireFarron	also ive figured out the ignore command
00:49	Candygoose	That's unfortunate Claire
00:49	Candygoose	I understand what you are getting at
00:49	Candygoose	You're going to ignore me because you cannot handle the opinions of others
00:49	Candygoose	I'm sad to hear that Claire.
00:50	Candygoose	Before you set the ignore command, I would just like to wish you the best and that I hope you realize your mistake.
00:50	ClaireFarron	im happier than ive ever been
00:50	Candygoose	https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Robert_Wayne_Stiles Just do me a favor, and read up on this fellow "trans"
00:51	Candygoose	It will explain what the future holds for you
00:51	Candygoose	Anyway, I gotta go. I wish you the best of luck Claire and I will keep in touch