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- ### Re: TCEC S15, END of an ERA event is much more exciting than the main event!
- > *Milos wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:04 pm*
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- > > *Bruno wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:28 pm*
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- > > > *Milos wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:37 am*
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- > > > > *Bruno wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:45 am*
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- > > > > > *Milos wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:33 am*
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- > > > > > > *Laskos wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:06 am*
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- > > > > > > > *Milos wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:25 am*
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- > > > > > > > > *Laskos wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:09 pm* This is the most interesting tournament in the history of TCEC, I would say. In season 9 or 10, Stockfish was miles ahead of Houdini. Now a pack of wolves is chasing it.
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- > > > > > > > > I don't know if this is the end of an era, it may well be that SF will be on top for many years to come. But the top is being threatened and this is a very interesting situation.
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- > > > > > > > > I remember that I was heavily criticized when I said that Lc0 will win S14. I didn't say this to kinda throw the dice, but because I run a large number of games and this was the prediction.
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- > > > > > > > > I don't think Lc0 will win S15. But this is not only because of the rather strange rule to change the GPU only in the superfinal. But because it's not clear that it's stronger than AllieStein. I think it's about even now.
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- > > > > > > > > I have only 5000 games so far, and this is not enough.
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- > > > > > > > > Lc0 6700 is strong, but clearly weaker than the current network (7xxxx).
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- > > > > > > > > IMO it's unlikely that Lc0 will win the superfinal, even with the current network, even with the current 8x2080 Ti.
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- > > > > > > > > I'm not sure what to bet. But I think that AllieStein is the best bet, followed by SF.
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- > > > > > > > > But I'll run more games.
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- > > > > > > > I don't think that SF and AS have any chance against LC0 in 100 games superfinal, regardless of the hardware.
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- > > > > > > > If Leela is allowed to use it's best network and hardware then it's game over.
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- > > > > > > > If TCEC rules are such that Leela can't use it's best network and hardware then I don't see any point in participating in such a "competition".
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- > > > > > > > I understand that S15 is a special event but I don't think that any other engine can win against Leela in a classical time control event.
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- > > > > > > I disagree with this. The engines are very close. But I don't think
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