request from hkim

[9:36 PM] HKim: Going to need you to step up man.
[9:36 PM] HKim: You wanted this job, time to do it.
[9:36 PM] Nitro: On this Game Board idea?
[9:36 PM] HKim: Hah, no
[9:36 PM] HKim: The RP stuff
[9:36 PM] Nitro: Oh sure
[9:36 PM] Nitro: I was under the impression that we were waiting on K'sa for a response
[9:36 PM] HKim: I think you'll be able to work better with K'sa and Felly than Elysia.
[9:37 PM] Nitro: I honestly thought the direction we're heading in right now was a good one
[9:37 PM] HKim: I think it's mroe about...
[9:37 PM] HKim: hurt feeling than anything.
[9:37 PM] Nitro: Right, I agree
[9:37 PM] HKim: Can I ask you to try and get to know K'sa on a personal level?
[9:37 PM] HKim: more personal*
[9:37 PM] HKim: Maybe stuff outside the URPG
[9:38 PM] HKim: I think that if you two can form a connection of some sort, it will grease the wheels of all of this.
[9:38 PM] HKim: Seems silly, but that's my... gut feeling, if you will.
[9:45 PM] HKim: Then maybe you guys can work out some details afterward.
[9:45 PM] HKim: Or something
[9:45 PM] HKim: Can I count on you?
[9:45 PM] Nitro: I'm thinking, but my first feeling is that this request is strange
[9:45 PM] Nitro: Almost political
[9:47 PM] Nitro: If hurt feelings are the problem here and not issues of RP overlap, I’d rather be direct about those instead of haggling over the RP issues, but first we’d have to facilitate a conversation where feelings are something that we’re talking about
[9:49 PM] Nitro: But I think that belongs in the group chat, and I think everybody will have to acknowledge the shift away from conversation topics like encounter lists and battle systems to what was done wrong and how to repair it
[9:52 PM] Nitro: I think what's best for URPG is that Park and BS don't simultaneously exist, because the more I've been thinking about today, they will detract from each other, but the only way to reach that goal is to acknowledge all of this weirdness surrounding leadership
[9:53 PM] Nitro: I suppose that's not really the answer you wanted, but I'm not comfortable being less than direct about it -- hashing out these uncomfortable conversations, in my experience, is best in the long run
[9:55 PM] Nitro: I'll apologize to K'sa if the conversation is shifted to hurt feelings, which I think would be the symbolic kind of action that counts
[9:57 PM] HKim: It's not a bad idea, to be honest.
[9:57 PM] HKim: But it might not be pretty and could potentially explode.
[9:58 PM] Nitro: Yeah, it's always tricky
[9:58 PM] Nitro: I think the best that I can do is apologize for my part in all this, and then how they receive it would kinda be out of my hands
[9:59 PM] Nitro: But I really do think that BS is best done if it replaces Park, and I think as a part of URPG's overarching group of leaders, the Park leaders should at some point be able to accept that
[10:00 PM] Nitro: Usually I think I'm more neutral in these kind of arguments, so it's easier for me to talk people down, but it's a little stranger being in this position lol
[10:04 PM] HKim: Group therapy session
[10:04 PM] HKim: It can't just be you, Nitro
[10:04 PM] HKim: It would need to be everyone
[10:04 PM] HKim: Else it wouldn't work out.
[10:06 PM] Nitro: I hear you(edited)
[10:07 PM] Nitro: At the crux of this, though, will be making the issue about K'sa's feelings instead of the convo topics that she has raised
[10:07 PM] Nitro: And sure, let's do that if it's what the issue here really is, though I don't think it's going to be easy haha(edited)
[10:11 PM] HKim: Well K'sa already tried it with Smiles.
[10:12 PM] HKim: Sounds like it didn't work.
[10:12 PM] Nitro: What happened there?
[10:18 PM] HKim: Sounds like it made things worse.
[10:19 PM] HKim: Informative, but worse.
[10:21 PM] Nitro: Well, if we genuinely believe this is about hurt feelings, and she continues to deny it, somebody's going to have to make the kind of action to supersede that disagreement
[10:21 PM] Nitro: I guess that would be the messy part
[10:25 PM] HKim: Uh, you assume it was K'sa denying the feelings.
[10:26 PM] Nitro: Oh shit
[10:26 PM] Nitro: It wasn't?
[10:26 PM] Nitro: That would be my bad
[10:26 PM] HKim: I think it was more that the conversation took a turn towards teh accusatory.
[10:26 PM] HKim: On both sides.
[10:27 PM] Nitro: Any chance you give me a summary or something? I think I could try it
[10:27 PM] HKim: Oh man Nitro
[10:27 PM] HKim: It'd be an essay
[10:27 PM] Nitro: lol
[10:27 PM] Nitro: Well, we're kinda deep into specifics now
[10:28 PM] Nitro: I really think we'd be much better off if we could just get everything out in the open, and have that group chat
[10:28 PM] Nitro: Like, the same thing I said to Ely was that I wish we were more direct and open before branching off on this without K'sa, and I guess the same guiding thought applies here
[10:32 PM] HKim: Maybe start with just you and K'sa
[10:32 PM] HKim: And see what happens from there
[10:32 PM] HKim: Yeah Felly and Elysia need to be drawn in at some point
[10:32 PM] HKim: And probably Smiles
[10:33 PM] HKim: And Monbrey and me should be present for any group thing.
[10:33 PM] HKim: But it can't hurt to start out small.
[10:33 PM] HKim: Try to stand in each other's shoes, you know?
[10:37 PM] Nitro: But that's like the opposite of what I just said
[10:38 PM] Nitro: I don't think going further into 1-on-1 DMs helps open things up
[10:39 PM] HKim: It depends on the people, honestly.
[10:39 PM] HKim: Smiles and K'sa was just going to end poorly
[10:39 PM] HKim: I don't know if I could have picked a worse combo of everyone involved.
[10:40 PM] Nitro: If it helps, I'll initiate this conversation myself in the group chat, and be responsible for guiding it(edited)
[10:40 PM] HKim: Unfortunately Nitro, you're biased.
[10:40 PM] HKim: You can't be a moderator of such a discussion.
[10:40 PM] Nitro: Yeah, I hear ya
[10:41 PM] Nitro: Frankly, I think it has to be you or Monbrey, since you're neutral and the unquestionable top two guys
[10:41 PM] Nitro: But if it came to it, I'll do my best to take ownership of being at fault here
[10:42 PM] Nitro: I just am not comfortable splitting up into another 1-on-1
[10:43 PM] HKim: Well if you're not comfortable with that
[10:43 PM] HKim: Then my read on teh situation is that you'd have to waite
[10:43 PM] HKim: Any such discussion would need to take place late this weekend or next week given what I know.
[10:43 PM] HKim: Are you okay with the project being delayed?
[10:44 PM] Nitro: That's fine, I know it seems touch-and-go but I don't think it's beyond repair by any means
[10:44 PM] Nitro: I'm sorry I couldn't give you the answer you were hoping for lol
[10:45 PM] HKim: It's fine.  I probably didn't word it correctly.