Territory, competence, philosophy, calm mind

Monfd
You're banning a lot of IP addresses.
Monfd
A person only behaves the way apestate is behaving when they're lacking purpose.
Monfd
When you provide resistance to a person in this state, you are giving them purpose, which is psychologically gratifying.
Monfd
Recommendation: Let them exhaust their psychological energy.
20:10 tau
Monfd: I'm collecting all his IPs to ban him globally from EFnet.
Monfd
Why should he be banned globally from EFnet?
tau
flooding is against our TOS
Monfd
Yes, he was flooding and flooding is pretty disruptive.
Monfd
I agree it's justifiable to respond to flooding.
Monfd
How long would you want the banned?
Monfd
them*
tau
It's not like it's any of your business.
Monfd
What does it mean to you for something to be somebody's business?
Monfd
I don't recognize this concept in the way you're using it.
tau
too bad
Monfd
tau: I put you on ignore, as your values aren't congruent with dialogue.
Monfd
The concept of 'business' you're leveraging is a social framework based off typical human psychology where people exist in hierarchies with acquired authority over some portion of the collective's 'territory'.
Monfd
I think this is largely obsolete.
Monfd
We want good solutions, no matter where they come from.
Monfd
If a person is low in our hierarchy, but has a good solution, then that should be the hierarchy's solution -- followed by increase in status of that person.
Monfd
That is, I'm for competence hierarchies, not standard social dominance hierarchies.
Monfd
You'll notice that philosophy is a competence hierarchy, too.
Monfd
One of the reasons the hierarchies you're leveraging are bad is because people over-attach their sense of identity to their earned prestige in the hierarchy.
Monfd
This leads to various emotional responses that I think often induce suffering.
Monfd
For example, perceiving somebody like apestate rejoining your channel over and over again as a personal attack.
Monfd
Instead of how I perceived it -- 'this person is in a bad mental state and/or boring and/or incompetent, and so I choose to not consume thei chat'.
Monfd pauses for reflection
Monfd
What are some effects of, instead, belonging to a competence hierarchy?
BiosLog-1
Hey fuckers
BiosLog-1 is now known as BiosLogos
Monfd
To robustly participate in a competence hierarchy, you'll need to receive smart ideas from anybody as dynamically as possible, which means you'll need to be in a state of psychological openness to as many people around you as possible.
Monfd
To achieve that state, you have to be relatively calm.
Monfd
Having a calm mind is perhaps the single greatest thing any person can possess.
Monfd
When we have a calm mind, we can generally respond to the problems we're facing with competence.
itea has set topic: Since when did the latter day crucifiction of apestate elevate him to planet status in the luniverse ?
lockie has changed mode: +t
Monfd
Thus completes my opening argumentation for why tau's statement about it not being my business stems from undesirable values that should be discarded.
Monfd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHITmcKUGik

Monfd
As a quick aside, Buddhism essentially teaches the primary solution to every problem, from those in our personal life, to international terrorism is working on having a calm mind.
Monfd
https://youtu.be/NJ9UtuWfs3U?t=851

Monfd
There's a video of Thich Nhat Hanh expressing how important it is to solve the general problems we face by having a calm mind.