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- dare775 admitted defeat
- Siding for next duel has begun (1-0-0)
- dare775: sigh... no more going easy
- MeteorD: eff okay?
- dare775: ok
- MeteorD: eff
- MeteorD: Chain
- MeteorD placed a counter on "Evilswarm Exciton Knight" in M-3 (now 1)
- MeteorD removed a counter from "Evilswarm Exciton Knight" in M-3 (now 0)
- MeteorD: Sea Horse
- dare775 has lost 1900 life points
- MeteorD: Okay
- MeteorD: Is this you not going easy?
- dare775: this is a bad hand
- MeteorD: More like a bad deck
- dare775: judging someone's deck on the first duel makes u a pretty bad player
- MeteorD: You're playing Battlin Boxers, you don't really have a say in this
- dare775: thats honest fact not my opinion
- dare775 has lost 2400 life points
- dare775: your point?
- dare775: who said boxers where bad?
- MeteorD: The fact that they're not doing shit in the OCG, nor the TCG
- dare775: umm
- dare775: they topped regionals before
- MeteorD: Everything tops in regionals
- MeteorD: Dude
- MeteorD: Read the card
- MeteorD: "You can only activate 1 "Battlin' Boxing Spirits" per turn."
- dare775: the fact that your being a rude ass dick for what reason?
- MeteorD: shuffle back Spar
- dare775: i said nothing negative to and your being a ass
- dare775: you*
- dare775 has lost 2400 life points
- MeteorD: You said that you're going to stop going easy, which is trashtalking
- MeteorD: so I'm just trashtalking back
- dare775: dude
- dare775: get out of your little fantasy butt hurt over you own false interpretation of what i said
- MeteorD: Okay
- dare775: i stated a fact that i was really trying cause im busy doing other things
- dare775: wasnt*
- MeteorD: I'm currently playing Runescape, so that makes 2
- dare775: who said im like you?
- MeteorD: Okay
- dare775: dmg
- MeteorD: sure
- MeteorD has lost 900 life points
- dare775: gj
- dare775 admitted defeat
- dare775 has left the duel
- Private Chat:
- dare775: learn some respect might do you some good
- MeteorD: I'll learn respect when you learn to git gud
- dare775: been good
- dare775: let me tell you 2 useful pieces of information
- MeteorD: Okay
- dare775: 1. its YGO, its not a game of oh im so good and your so bad when you can just copy decks that win tournies all the time
- MeteorD: I don't copy decks, I look at decks that topped and then fix part of them that I think can be optimized, just like in every other card game
- MeteorD: Unless it's banlist season in which case I do what the fuck I want
- dare775: 2. this game is 90% luck 10% skill dont give me that get good crap all the famous actually good players know this and if they seen you comment they would laugh at you
- dare775: and i didnt say u copied a deck -_-
- MeteorD: I'm pretty sure they'd be laughing at the person playing Battin' Boxers when SHArk is a card
- dare775: dude... you just another typical player like everyone else you taking pride over ygo lmao
- dare775: thats like a lightsworn player telling the world hes good because he sacks everyone with JD lmao
- MeteorD: LS relies entirely on mills, so it can literally only sack
- dare775: excuses
- dare775: your missing the point
- dare775: im stating facts your stating opinion and pigheaded remarks
- dare775: its ygo enough said
- dare775: the game is far from being balanced fair on things and everyone should know this
- MeteorD: It's unbalanced as fuck, but if you're playing Battin' Boxers then you're just asking to lose
- dare775: you should check azneyes videos he seems to understand how ygo works unlike you, you should go learn from him
- MeteorD: Azneyes is an awful player
- MeteorD: He can't deckbuild for shit
- dare775: he never said he was a good player
- MeteorD: You say he understands YGO, which he clearly doesn't
- dare775: hes humble enough to say hes a decent player
- dare775: and actually
- dare775: he knows waay more than you do even me actually
- dare775: again
- dare775: you stating opinions and pigheadedness im stating facts
- MeteorD: Sure he does, nigga doesn't even know his own rulings
- dare775: lmao
- dare775: ok and you remember all your rulings even for new cards? and super old cards? 100% of the time all day everyday?
- MeteorD: When literally all you have to is read the card unless it's shit like Psi-Blocker, yes
- dare775: thats one of the problems ygo reps pointed out
- dare775: its people like you that makes the game worse than what it is already
- dare775: the fact that im arguing with you ruins my reputation lol
- dare775: heres a fact bro
- dare775: then im done
- MeteorD: The only reputation you can gain when trying to make excuses with a deck like Battlin' Boxers and blaming it on bad hands is a bad reputation
- dare775: gamers, players, ect. they all have their sperate tiers of people thats actually can be titled good me on the other hand is with one of these top tiered group of players and i play with other top
- dare775: tiered players and no it doesnt mean they all insanely good or not
- MeteorD: Top tier players play top tier decks
- dare775: again your speaking in ignorance
- dare775: you dont even know what im talking about
- dare775: anyway
- dare775: im with legendary are borders touch any competitive game or thing its members touch
- dare775: their*
- dare775: thats just an exmaple of me and i can tell you now
- dare775: theres a line between a good player and a bad player and it has little to do with skill
- MeteorD: It has to do with calculating the ratios for your deck
- MeteorD: Which you clearly didn't do
- dare775: lmao
- MeteorD: because you can't get good ratios with BKs
- dare775: man your really ignorant
- dare775: you only care about what you have to say and what you think
- dare775: you think what your saying is the law or something like you wrote whats good or bad
- dare775: tell me
- MeteorD: Of course I can be certain of what's good and what's bad
- MeteorD: If a deck can consistently be a threat, then it's good
- dare775: if your so good and pro you have the right to down other players deck they didnt even say them self if it was good or not
- dare775: tell me why
- dare775: a slifer deck topped the highest league in ocg?
- MeteorD: Because the OCG isn't played in Swiss, which makes it easier for rogue decks to top
- dare775: lmao excuses
- dare775: its still playing tier 1 decks
- MeteorD: Dude
- MeteorD: Everyone fucking knows about why the OCG has stupid tops
- MeteorD: You'd have to be shit at the game not to know why
- dare775: excuses
- dare775: its still playing tier 1 decks
- MeteorD: Yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that they have to win alot less times
- dare775: or even tier 0 what people call few formats ago
- dare775: they still topped 1st
- dare775: nonetheless
- dare775: and they not even a thing people know about
- dare775: thats how decks get the person's name behind it
- dare775: long ago you started the destiny stun deck
- dare775: no one used it and thought was bad until he made a build to it
- dare775: as for me i dont call any archetype bad if its the basic build
- MeteorD: Yeah, and it topped once
- dare775: sylvans for exmaple
- dare775: second i saw shinra i knew they was gonna be good
- dare775: everyone said they was bad
- MeteorD: They're not close to competitive
- dare775: look and behold support come out now that deck is insane with possibilities
- MeteorD: With Chronomaly and Artifacts running around, they can't do shit
- MeteorD: Charity is a powerful card, yeah
- dare775: umm
- MeteorD: and Sage and Oreia are good as well
- dare775: my sylvan deck has lost one duel yet
- dare775: yet
- MeteorD: On fucking DN
- dare775: whats your point?
- MeteorD: Dude, I have a consistent winratio with fucking Galaxy on DN, that doesn't make them good
- dare775: its easier to win in rl than on dn
- dare775: im talking 40ish duels all wins
- dare775: now i have a trail of people asking for my deck build
- MeteorD: Winning irl in a tourney is harder
- dare775: saying its dn is a poor excuse
- MeteorD: because you'll be facing meta decks constantly run by players who actually bothered to learn the deck
- dare775: when dn shuffle system is jsut bad
- MeteorD: because they actually spent money on the fucking thing
- dare775: lol the logic
- MeteorD: Yeah, if someone spends hundreds of dollars on a meta deck, then they're going to fucking learn how to play it
- MeteorD: This isn't rocket science
- dare775: spending money on sometthing determines if youll win more lmao wtf?
- MeteorD: Spending money on something means that you'll invest more time into it
- dare775: lmao
- MeteorD: because you wasted your fucking money on cardboard cards
- dare775: there are 100s maybe 1000+ people that spend months testing decks
- MeteorD: so the best you can do is learn how to use them properly to make it more likely that it'll gain recognition
- dare775: all you do is make excuses
- MeteorD: Excuses for what? A shitty Slifer deck topping once and then never seeing the light of day again because it was shit?
- dare775: excuses lol
- dare775: cause maybe
- dare775: its a complex deck that not basic net decker can understand
- MeteorD: If it was actually good, then it would've been consistently topping after it
- dare775: oh
- dare775: but
- MeteorD: Dude, there are several thousands of people playing this game, there's no such thing as a deck being too complex when all you have to learn is the card interactions
- dare775: just contradicted yourself lmao
- MeteorD: The closest to complex shit you'll find is things like the Infernity FTK deckout, which is just a billion steps, but you can still memorize it
- dare775: this conversation is done all you do is make excuses, and contradict what your saying
- dare775: you seem to know whats a good player or not lmao
- dare775: that alone is priceless
- dare775: your so confident about it too
- MeteorD: I know what a good deck is
- MeteorD: Which you clearly don't
- dare775: please humor me more
- dare775: dude
- MeteorD: You're the kind of person who brought up fucking Regionals as something relevant
- MeteorD: If regionals were relevant, then that shitty 50 card FF deck would've been the norm
- dare775: everything your saying is opinions, excuses, and assumptions
- dare775: nothing you say has no logic behind it
- dare775: or fact
- MeteorD: Except it does, the fact is that decks that top at regionals rarely top any YCS
- dare775: i state a fact and logic reasons and come back with a fail excuse lol
- MeteorD: unless they're top tier decks
- MeteorD: This is a fact
- MeteorD: there's literally nothing you've said that refuted this point
- dare775: dude my point is what makes you have the right to judge a person's deck when they maker didnt even say oh im using ths for a competitive build or a test
- MeteorD: The only thing you need to do is refute why the 1. A deck that only topped once can be considered good and 2. Why decks that top non-competitive events like Regionals are considered relevant
- dare775: also
- dare775: the first duel
- MeteorD: You literally made the excuse "The deck is too complex"
- dare775: also downing an entire archtype
- MeteorD: That is the worst fucking excuse ever
- dare775: umm
- dare775: you go play the slifer deck and win with it
- dare775: actually
- MeteorD: I can't win with it consistently because it's shit and runs under another banlist
- dare775: go net deck 1st place decks those weird ones and win with it
- dare775: more excuses
- dare775: the decks im talking about not affected by banlist
- dare775: complex decks is decks with the maker's name behind the deck
- MeteorD: What the fuck are you talking about? I'm clearly stating that decks that only top once are shit, and that decks that top stupid shit like regionals can't be considered relevant unless they top a YCS
- MeteorD: consistently as well
- dare775: not some standard everyone knows tier 1 deck
- dare775: yes they topped in ycs
- MeteorD: Read the sentence again
- dare775: youtube it theres a guy i forgot his name he makes vids on ycs decks that topped
- MeteorD: Tops consistently
- MeteorD: not just once
- dare775: lmao
- dare775: dude
- dare775: complex decks only the maker knows how to effectively use it
- dare775: so its only him that would play it and maybe a few others
- dare775: also
- dare775: formats change
- dare775: maybe the guy wants a new deck
- dare775: or if he brought the exact build it be stupid if he shared his build already cause know everyone know how to stop it
- dare775: my point is get off your high horse and thinking a whole archtype is bad
- dare775: only a few exceptions to this rule ice barriers for example is jsut plainly bad
- MeteorD: You know what, if you miraculously manage to get good ratios so that you get consistent good hands in Battlin Boxers, I'll say that you're the greatest player alive
- dare775: lmao
- dare775: ok
- MeteorD: Because if the deck can't do that, then it's not good
- dare775: 20 duels
- dare775: first day i built the deck
- dare775: i lost around 5 legit losses
- dare775: both players had basic hands ect.
- MeteorD: No no, this doesn't have anything to do with duels
- dare775: no off the wall bs like a first turn starting hand with 5 exo pieces
- MeteorD: make a deck
- MeteorD: that has enough searchers
- dare775: lol
- MeteorD: enough ways to make a threatening field turn 1
- MeteorD: You dont even have to play any duels, just do the math
- dare775: do you you even know how the deck works?
- MeteorD: to see if you can get the card combinations required
- dare775: not all decks work the same lmao
- MeteorD: You know what, I'll even help you out
- dare775: dude
- MeteorD: http://yugioh.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=2363
- MeteorD: Here is the basic ratios you need to understand
- MeteorD: to see how good your deck is
- dare775: boxers work by setting up your grave
- MeteorD: Yeah, and you do that with certain cards
- MeteorD: and you need certain card combinations to do that
- dare775: and i run those cards tyvm
- dare775: also
- dare775: 79 helps with this as well
- MeteorD: Just read the article and learn how to math
- MeteorD: so you can see how consistent you can make it
- MeteorD: This is shit players who top consistently do
- dare775: omg... its common sense -_-
- MeteorD: You can literally not bring yourself to say that math is an excuse, because numbers don't lie
- MeteorD: For example, the chance of opening Winky Disk in Chronomaly turn 1 if you include the maximum amount of searchers is 81-86% if I remember correctly
- MeteorD: which is why the deck is good
- dare775: sigh...
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