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  1. Kai.
  2. This file contains my input and thoughts. Please take the time to read before trying to discuss this.
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  4. [02/10/2012 23:29:30] Ellis Bond: Fucking hell Kai
  5. Let's start by saying this is pretty much my reaction. You bastard. Nobody is in the right, but you are the only one that reacted this terribly.
  6.  
  7. [02/10/2012 23:33:01] BoringKai_N7: and I was having so much fun
  8.  
  9. Does that make it ok? yes? Well fine. Get the fuck over what I did. What I did wasn't deliberately horrible. None of the things did anything to harm you and it was all in good fun.
  10.  
  11. [02/10/2012 23:37:43] BoringKai_N7: I didn't want it to happen though
  12.  
  13. Well you bloody well didn't try to stop it, did you? There were plenty of points along the way at which you could've stopped this and chose not to. all of which would've resulted in me having a whole lot less distrust with you.
  14.  
  15. [02/10/2012 23:41:38] BoringKai_N7: you were meaner than me, mine was made up, you were thinking that it was real
  16.  
  17. Erm... You don't thing that we actually chopped off your head and stuck it on a model do you?
  18.  
  19. [02/10/2012 23:42:52] Elinor Creaby-Attwood: and Ellis can back me up- I was felt so guilty whenever anyone did anything to you at all even if it wasn't us specifically
  20. She did, and I just called her a pussy, but that's beside the point. If you are holding a grudge against Elinor then you can go fuck yourself because you are a ridiculous and horrible person.
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  22. [02/10/2012 23:44:29] BoringKai_N7: the people in this call were the only ones being mean, for example I remember being dragged around metro radio arena, I remember Steven photoshopping my face onto a naked woman (which I remember his saying that he would tell you about first)
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  24. You came into no harm. There was no harm at all. A picture is just a picture, no worse than a normal picture. in fact, if you don't like pictures it should be better because all I did was put HALF OF YOUR FACE ON IT. The other half was made up entirely from scratch. There's only like [THE SECRETS PASSWORD IS THAT IT IS A SECRET]100 pixels of you on there.
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  26. As for being dragged around the metroradio arena, what the hell is bad about that. We were trying to set you up on a date with Sophie! That's not a bad thing! you are made for each other. We were trying to be nice for you in the long run. We did not think : "oh that Kai really hates Sophie, lets set him up on a date!" we thought they're good together.
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  28. (which I remember his saying that he would tell you about first) What does that mean?
  29.  
  30. [02/10/2012 23:45:34] BoringKai_N7: all of the stuff done to me actually happened, then Steven got everyone to hate me because he was obsessed with a fake secret
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  32. Everyone already distrusted you massively after what happened with the minecraft server. They were waiting for something to jump on. And also, nobody hates you.
  33.  
  34. [02/10/2012 23:45:52] Elinor Creaby-Attwood: we don't hate you man Kai
  35. point proven
  36.  
  37. [02/10/2012 23:48:59] BoringKai_N7: you saw me laughing so you first thought "oh it must be about the really horrible stuff we have been making"
  38. Let me rephrase what you just said:
  39. [02/10/2012 23:48:59] BoringKai_N7: you saw me laughing so you first thought "oh it must be about the funny pictures of Kai we made"
  40.  
  41. That's what it was to us. A joke.
  42.  
  43. [02/10/2012 23:51:42] Ellis Bond: Our group banters a lot Kai. We always have a go at each other. Its what dudes do when they like each other.
  44.  
  45. I don't really know what to say here... +1?
  46.  
  47. [02/10/2012 23:53:59] Ellis Bond: I don't recall. Ill stop if you want. Cool?
  48. [00:00:39] Elinor Creaby-Attwood: Kai we all cool then?
  49. [00:00:57] BoringKai_N7: its still not cool, you still shouldn't have done any of it in the first place
  50.  
  51. EVERYONE IS TRYING TO DROP IT. YOU'RE ONLY MAKING IT WORSE ON YOURSELF.
  52.  
  53. [00:02:10] BoringKai_N7: I was, but that was before erotic novels were being made
  54.  
  55. That was never even getting made anyway. Do you know how much motivation we have? Also, how on earth is that offensive.
  56.  
  57. [00:09:08] Ellis Bond: Come on though, Dude, I've apologised and said ill stop. I cant do anymore than that.
  58.  
  59. Look at how many times we are apologising. You need to grow up Kai. You're only making this worse for everyone
  60.  
  61. [00:11:24] Elinor Creaby-Attwood: I'm always telling Steven to stop
  62.  
  63. again, Elinor has done nothing. Leave her alone. Also stop with the emotional blackmail.
  64.  
  65. [00:19:51] BoringKai_N7: but tbf it is mostly your fault
  66.  
  67. No Kai. This is your fault. This is all your fault. What we did pales in comparison to this. You have literally began the group falling apart. What we did was funny and tasteful. It could have been far worse. I'm not going to go into detail because I find it hard to believe you'd even read it. What you are saying is not 'fair'. You are being cruel and you can't accept that you went massively overboard to the point of huge excess.
  68.  
  69. [00:22:57] Elinor Creaby-Attwood: look, he'll see this conversation and hopefully he'll stop
  70.  
  71. Sorry, but I'm not going to stop. 'tbf' I do it to everyone and nobody overreacts to it. There is no way I am going to stop, if I was before then you've just massively fucked yourself over. I will stop after this, but only if you agree to stop being a dick to me. Not because I care, but simply as a matter of respect.
  72.  
  73. [00:25:13] BoringKai_N7: and yeah, he makes "comedy" at the expense of others and then when something gets said about him, he turns everyone against me
  74.  
  75. FOR FUCKS SAKE. DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR? LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED!
  76.  
  77. [00:27:19] BoringKai_N7: and you all go along with it, just before you were threatening to kick me out of the group
  78. [00:29:34] Elinor Creaby-Attwood: oh come on we weren't gonna throw you out of the group
  79.  
  80. I would've done a long time ago. And I wish I had. Imagine if none of this about secrets had happened. Look at what you have achieved and tell me that what you did was right. That it makes you and honest, likeable and trustworthy person. I had a hard time trusting you after the minecraft servers and this is hardly helping.
  81.  
  82. [00:29:43] BoringKai_N7: only to Steven, then he turned you all against me
  83.  
  84. No Kai. You turned everyone against you. Blackmail =\=> friends
  85.  
  86. [00:32:11] BoringKai_N7: then as soon as Ellis takes Steven's side, everyone takes Steven's side
  87.  
  88. No. As soon as everyone takes my side, Ellis takes my side. Everyone includes Ellis.
  89.  
  90. [00:36:00] BoringKai_N7: no, I had a made up secret about Steven and no one really cared until you decided to take Steven's side and that led to everyone having a go at me
  91.  
  92. My same point. You have your events the wrong way around.
  93.  
  94. [00:36:17] BoringKai_N7: just for doing something a quarter as bad as what he did to me
  95.  
  96. What we did was not a quarter as bad as yours. It was less than that. How does 'Kai we all love you. Please make love to us' become 4 times worse than trying to make my go insane with lies, tearing everyone apart and turning what trust was left into nothingness?
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  98. [00:38:05] BoringKai_N7: you were both telling me how mean I was for doing something that could affect the whole group, even though it would only affect Steven who was being a massive d-word at the time
  99. [00:38:40] BoringKai_N7: no body was curious until you decided to make it sound like I was the bad one for doing something on a minute scale to what he did to me
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  101. What you did is all but minute. Look at the results. All of this is your fault. How is that minute? Also it definitely didn't only affect me. If you were doing something to only effect me then you should've chosen something that only affects me. If you had done something on the scale of what we did to you, I wouldn't've given two shits.
  102.  
  103. [00:43:39] Ellis Bond: If at some point you said "there is no secret" we would be fine. You still refused to tell us, taunting us with Connor
  104.  
  105. You went massively overboard. You should've quit while you were ahead and nothing would've happened.
  106.  
  107. [00:55:39] Ellis Bond: You clearly do.t
  108.  
  109. Very clever Ellis. You get a whole section to yourself just for that.
  110.  
  111. [00:56:40] BoringKai_N7: I've been wanting to stop it for ages
  112. [00:56:55] BoringKai_N7: you are the ones that have been wanting to argue
  113.  
  114. Does this look stopped to you? Does this look like you, through absolute intervention of your part, have made it so much worse for yourself? No? Well it should.
  115.  
  116. [00:58:15] BoringKai_N7: there's a difference between saying something and meaning something, and I will leave you at that
  117.  
  118. This is the worst line you could ever leave us on. It is like a child in an argument saying 'well you're wrong and I'm right and there's nothing you can do now because I'm gone.
  119.  
  120. In conclusion:
  121. Kai. You have fucked up. I would've accepted this and move on but no. You still blame us. You reacted terribly to a situation, leading to this entire shitstorm. It needn't have happened.
  122.  
  123. Yes. I also fucked up. I should've seen that you weren't happy with what was happening and stopped. I did think about doing that. A lot of times. But every time I came to the same conclusion. I thought : What if it was me? And every time I came to the same answer. I wouldn't really care. In my mind, what I was doing was harmless. There was no malicious intent at any point. However I do admit that I kept at it for too long.
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  125. As for everyone else, yes, they certainly could've done a better job of not pissing you off, but you were just as bad as them all along. It's what happens. You just took everything far too seriously.
  126. You misjudged everything that was going on horrifically and seem to completely misunderstand the connection between actions and consequences. I will have a hard time trusting you, and I have lost a lot of respect for you, but I am willing to repair what little friendship we have left. I certainly can't talk for everyone else but I just want to move on.
  127.  
  128. If I were an external person looking in I would not be far off suggesting that you may have issues. Knowing you, I am not going to say this as I think I know you better, but I just want you to contemplate it yourself. You reacted insanely badly to something that shouldn't have been an issue and instead of trying to resolve it like a mature adult, you decided it would be better to get revenge through what is effectively psychological warfare.
  129. I just want to get back to the way it was. I do not hate you. I never have. Sure there have been points where I'd rather see the back of you, but I don't think I'd stick with that decision a day later. Please, let's move on. There need be no animosity nor hate if you'd just accept that you fucked up. I have too. We all have, but don't hold a grudge. Don't be a woman and a child. Just stick with us and we'll work through it.
  130.  
  131. Thanks for actually reading that, I'm happy to discuss, but let's be adult about it and not get defensive.
  132.  
  133. Also for life advice. Have a wank before any important decision. Also not doing so is ridiculous. Entirely your choice, but ridiculous. It'd also help calm you down ;)
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