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  2. Guild: Zarania's Mafia
  3. Channel: scum
  4. Topic:
  5. Messages: 1,956
  6. Range:
  7. ==============================================================
  8.  
  9. [03-Oct-19 09:16 AM] Zarania#5789
  10. Welcome team Mafia! Game starts at 5. All role PMs are out, so you are free to start your plotting whenever.
  11.  
  12. [03-Oct-19 09:33 AM] Zarania#5789
  13. You all have
  14. Eloriyas, Radio Operator
  15. Cloudes, Mailman
  16. Illi, Tracker
  17.  
  18. [03-Oct-19 09:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  19. Wait if it's assigned via role can't people click names on discord and see people's role tags?
  20.  
  21. [03-Oct-19 09:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  22. Oh can you hide that.
  23.  
  24. [03-Oct-19 09:37 AM] Zarania#5789
  25. it's not assigned by role
  26.  
  27. [03-Oct-19 09:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  28. Ah
  29.  
  30. [03-Oct-19 09:37 AM] Zarania#5789
  31. it's permissions specifically on the channel
  32.  
  33. [03-Oct-19 09:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  34. Interesting.
  35.  
  36. [03-Oct-19 09:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  37. Well hi friends!
  38.  
  39. [03-Oct-19 09:38 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  40. I like this Mafia team, should be fun.
  41.  
  42. [03-Oct-19 09:38 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  43. Zar if I send a letter do you tell people who's it from?
  44.  
  45. [03-Oct-19 09:39 AM] Zarania#5789
  46. The letter format is exactly as you send it
  47.  
  48. [03-Oct-19 09:40 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  49. Ok.
  50.  
  51. [03-Oct-19 09:40 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  52. Gonna have do to some research on clever things to do with this.
  53.  
  54. [03-Oct-19 09:40 AM] Zarania#5789
  55. There is no from in it, unless you want to put that in
  56.  
  57. [03-Oct-19 09:41 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  58. Are roles unique?
  59.  
  60. [03-Oct-19 09:41 AM] Zarania#5789
  61. no
  62.  
  63. [03-Oct-19 09:41 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  64. Looooooool
  65.  
  66. [03-Oct-19 09:42 AM] Zarania#5789
  67. nor are they guaranteed to be in the game - there are 15 roles, 13 players, and one role requires two players
  68.  
  69. [03-Oct-19 09:42 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  70. And there could be doubles of other roles as well then?
  71.  
  72. [03-Oct-19 09:42 AM] Zarania#5789
  73. yes
  74.  
  75. [03-Oct-19 09:43 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  76. Thnx!
  77.  
  78. [03-Oct-19 09:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  79. This should be fun.
  80.  
  81. [03-Oct-19 09:44 AM] Zarania#5789
  82. Hope so!
  83.  
  84. [03-Oct-19 10:09 AM] sei#0242
  85. I like this team
  86.  
  87. [03-Oct-19 10:09 AM] sei#0242
  88. Goes back to that first game we played and the 3 of us teamed up
  89.  
  90. [03-Oct-19 10:09 AM] sei#0242
  91. as town
  92.  
  93. [03-Oct-19 10:34 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  94. It's true!
  95.  
  96. [03-Oct-19 10:34 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  97. We all investigated the same person haha.
  98.  
  99. [03-Oct-19 10:40 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  100. So we all carry guns but can only kill one person a night?
  101.  
  102. [03-Oct-19 10:40 AM] Zarania#5789
  103. correct
  104.  
  105. [03-Oct-19 10:40 AM] Zarania#5789
  106. the gun is just a tag for the gunsmith role
  107.  
  108. [03-Oct-19 10:42 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  109. Probably makes sense for me to do the killing then, since I probably have the weakest role.
  110.  
  111. [03-Oct-19 10:42 AM] Zarania#5789
  112. E doesn't have a night action fwiw.
  113.  
  114. [03-Oct-19 10:42 AM] Zarania#5789
  115. It's a static ability.
  116.  
  117. [03-Oct-19 10:43 AM] Zarania#5789
  118. Just for your planning purposes, not sure if you figured if she killed you'd lose day chat
  119.  
  120. [03-Oct-19 10:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  121. Yeah
  122.  
  123. [03-Oct-19 10:45 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  124. That's why I'm thinking with so many investigative roles, then stuff like War Vet the killer could be found out easily.
  125.  
  126. [03-Oct-19 10:45 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  127. And E has a really valuable power.
  128.  
  129. [03-Oct-19 10:45 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  130. Wait, why is War Vet communication?
  131.  
  132. [03-Oct-19 10:45 AM] Zarania#5789
  133. cause I copy pasted wrong. Fixing
  134.  
  135. [03-Oct-19 10:46 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  136. If someone goes to kill the War Vet does it end in a double kill?
  137.  
  138. [03-Oct-19 10:46 AM] Zarania#5789
  139. Yes
  140.  
  141. [03-Oct-19 10:49 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  142. Does me sending a letter count as visiting?
  143.  
  144. [03-Oct-19 10:49 AM] Zarania#5789
  145. yes
  146.  
  147. [03-Oct-19 10:49 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  148. Oof
  149.  
  150. [03-Oct-19 10:49 AM] Zarania#5789
  151. Any kind of targeting counts
  152.  
  153. [03-Oct-19 10:50 AM] sei#0242
  154. Probably safer for us not to do any visits first night
  155.  
  156. [03-Oct-19 10:50 AM] sei#0242
  157. except for kill
  158.  
  159. [03-Oct-19 10:50 AM] sei#0242
  160. too many things going on with tracking or random killing by vet
  161.  
  162. [03-Oct-19 10:51 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  163. Yeah it's pretty risky.
  164.  
  165. [03-Oct-19 10:51 AM] sei#0242
  166. Can one of us use our night ability and kill? or is it like last game that the person that does the kill can't use their night power?
  167.  
  168. [03-Oct-19 10:51 AM] Zarania#5789
  169. `Each night you may choose a player to kill. Any player who uses their night action may not be sent to do the killing.`
  170.  
  171. [03-Oct-19 10:52 AM] Zarania#5789
  172. You and Cloudes have to pick between. E is not a night action, so her granting day chat is not disabled if she kills
  173.  
  174. [03-Oct-19 10:52 AM] sei#0242
  175. Yeah, so probably best just to have Cloudes do the kill night 1 and I won't investigate
  176.  
  177. [03-Oct-19 10:53 AM] sei#0242
  178. And choose someone that isn't super suspicious going into night 1. As likely most investigation and protection etc will be happening onto those shady ppl
  179.  
  180. [03-Oct-19 10:53 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  181. We still have night chat, but I day chat is quite helpful.
  182.  
  183. [03-Oct-19 10:53 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  184. Probably don't want to lose it.
  185.  
  186. [03-Oct-19 11:03 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  187. Amg, I'm on break at work, but what a dream team <3
  188.  
  189. [03-Oct-19 11:06 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  190. The only thing is you and me are usually dead by the time the game is half over lol
  191.  
  192. [03-Oct-19 11:06 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  193. People may get suspicious if we are alive.
  194.  
  195. [03-Oct-19 11:06 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  196. I've also been town so many times and played the same way, so I have to remain consistent.
  197.  
  198. [03-Oct-19 11:07 AM] sei#0242
  199. Yeah, we'll need to keep the same dynamic as we've had the previous games
  200.  
  201. [03-Oct-19 11:08 AM] sei#0242
  202. Is there much value to a mafia tracker? I wonder if Cloudes doing mindgames as the mailman may be more valuable
  203.  
  204. [03-Oct-19 11:09 AM] sei#0242
  205. Tracker would let us confirm some town roles later on in the game, but first night doesn't have a ton of value
  206.  
  207. [03-Oct-19 11:09 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  208. It lets us know if someone has a role power of visiting basically.
  209.  
  210. [03-Oct-19 11:09 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  211. So it could help us find any Doctors/Investigators.
  212.  
  213. [03-Oct-19 11:09 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  214. So it could give us "better" targets to kill.
  215.  
  216. [03-Oct-19 11:10 AM] sei#0242
  217. yeah, I'm thinking we can save using it for like night 2 once there are some more claimed roles out htere
  218.  
  219. [03-Oct-19 11:10 AM] sei#0242
  220. but night 1, maybe I do the kill and you can send a note to someone
  221.  
  222. [03-Oct-19 11:10 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  223. But honestly not sure how much if it is worth the risk.
  224.  
  225. [03-Oct-19 11:10 AM] sei#0242
  226. The only one that's an issue for us is the vet
  227.  
  228. [03-Oct-19 11:11 AM] sei#0242
  229. all the other roles could also be town. So if someone sees us visiting, it's not necessarily bad
  230.  
  231. [03-Oct-19 11:11 AM] sei#0242
  232. but trading 1 for 1 would be terrible if we visit a vet
  233.  
  234. [03-Oct-19 11:11 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  235. Gunsmith is probably our biggest enemy.
  236.  
  237. [03-Oct-19 11:12 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  238. I'm actually happy we got Tracker. There could be another one but it's somewhat unlikely.
  239.  
  240. [03-Oct-19 11:13 AM] sei#0242
  241. It sounds like roles weren't exclusive though? Idk if Zar can actually tell us that or not. But sounds like they were just assigned randomly so there is an equal chance to have anything
  242.  
  243. [03-Oct-19 11:13 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  244. They aren't exclusive.
  245.  
  246. [03-Oct-19 11:13 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  247. There could be 5 mailmans.
  248.  
  249. [03-Oct-19 11:13 AM] sei#0242
  250. right
  251.  
  252. [03-Oct-19 11:14 AM] sei#0242
  253. Follower could also cause trouble for us. Basically if a follower invests the one of us doing the killing outs them as mafia
  254.  
  255. [03-Oct-19 11:15 AM] sei#0242
  256. As the only other kill action would be from a vigilante which would be easy to distinguish since the results would show if they killed a town/mafia
  257.  
  258. [03-Oct-19 11:16 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  259. Yeah there are quite a few ways to get caught.
  260.  
  261. [03-Oct-19 01:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  262. I haven't even been on forums yet, won't be home til 7 server
  263.  
  264. [03-Oct-19 01:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  265. Game doesn't open for 3 hours or so.
  266.  
  267. [03-Oct-19 01:51 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  268. Oh sweet. We pre gaming!
  269.  
  270. [03-Oct-19 01:52 PM] Zarania#5789
  271. Yeah, I like to give my scum time before the game starts to get prepped. If E wasn't a Radio Operator after the pregame the day would close, but since E is here it gets to stay open
  272.  
  273. [03-Oct-19 01:52 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  274. Do you guys have any thoughts on some of the mistakes the mafia have made in other games?
  275.  
  276. [03-Oct-19 01:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  277. I feel like a lot of time they try to play very passively.
  278.  
  279. [03-Oct-19 01:54 PM] sei#0242
  280. I don't remember specifics from some of the older games. The most recent game, I thought they played pretty well early, but got kind of screwed by Tzo investigating Cramer. And then swolf made some mistakes with who he killed and voting patterns
  281.  
  282. [03-Oct-19 01:54 PM] sei#0242
  283. I think we want to play like we have in the past. Be active as town
  284.  
  285. [03-Oct-19 01:55 PM] sei#0242
  286. And E a bit more low key like usual
  287.  
  288. [03-Oct-19 01:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  289. I think another thing is, for me it's always been relatively easy to find out who scum are based on voting patterns.
  290.  
  291. [03-Oct-19 01:55 PM] sei#0242
  292. Yeah, we need to make sure we avoid voting too in sync
  293.  
  294. [03-Oct-19 01:56 PM] sei#0242
  295. Can even play different sides early on. You and I usually go back and forth a bit
  296.  
  297. [03-Oct-19 01:56 PM] sei#0242
  298. And avoid being an obvious hammer vote
  299.  
  300. [03-Oct-19 01:58 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  301. I think we have to not be afraid to put votes on each other.
  302.  
  303. [03-Oct-19 02:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  304. Also I think it's wise to try and take out people that are more "active" in the game earlier.
  305.  
  306. [03-Oct-19 02:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  307. Of course this changes slightly depending on what's going on, if people think they could be scum no reason to axe them right away.
  308.  
  309. [03-Oct-19 02:12 PM] sei#0242
  310. Don't we want to keep ppl around that ppl suspect could be scum? Taking an example from last game, it makes sense to keep someone like Ice around as long as possible
  311.  
  312. [03-Oct-19 02:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  313. Yeah that's meant.
  314.  
  315. [03-Oct-19 02:16 PM] sei#0242
  316. sorry, I misread what you said
  317.  
  318. [03-Oct-19 02:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  319. Np
  320.  
  321. [03-Oct-19 02:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  322. For example, I think Eli is a pretty smart and active player and getting him out early could be smart. However, he also does a good job of making people think he's scum a lot of the time.
  323.  
  324. [03-Oct-19 03:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  325. Zar are town roles unique?
  326.  
  327. [03-Oct-19 03:14 PM] Zarania#5789
  328. No roles are unique
  329.  
  330. [03-Oct-19 03:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  331. So what happens if there are multiple Captains?
  332.  
  333. [03-Oct-19 03:15 PM] Zarania#5789
  334. they'd be able to send orders to different sets of people
  335.  
  336. [03-Oct-19 03:16 PM] Zarania#5789
  337. two Captains couldn't give the same person orders, because they'd have to disobey one to do the other
  338.  
  339. [03-Oct-19 03:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  340. So do Captains know the complete breakdown of how many Vets/Vigilantes there is?
  341.  
  342. [03-Oct-19 03:17 PM] Zarania#5789
  343. No
  344.  
  345. [03-Oct-19 03:17 PM] Zarania#5789
  346. they only know the roles of the people they give orders to
  347.  
  348. [03-Oct-19 03:17 PM] Zarania#5789
  349. so between 2 and 3 other roles
  350.  
  351. [03-Oct-19 03:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  352. Ok thnx
  353.  
  354. [03-Oct-19 03:27 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  355. So if we get called out on having a gun, the only safe role to claim is Moral Vigilante.
  356.  
  357. [03-Oct-19 03:31 PM] sei#0242
  358. Yeah, because if someone visited a vet they'd be dead already 😵
  359.  
  360. [03-Oct-19 03:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  361. Yup.
  362.  
  363. [03-Oct-19 03:31 PM] sei#0242
  364. could claim as gunsmith
  365.  
  366. [03-Oct-19 03:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  367. Wait Captains also have guns.
  368.  
  369. [03-Oct-19 03:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  370. But they don't kill.
  371.  
  372. [03-Oct-19 03:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  373. True.
  374.  
  375. [03-Oct-19 03:32 PM] sei#0242
  376. yeah, but claiming captain could lead to trouble having to prove it
  377.  
  378. [03-Oct-19 03:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  379. However if you claimed Gunsmith, people may ask who you investigated.
  380.  
  381. [03-Oct-19 03:32 PM] sei#0242
  382. ppl would ask what roles you are in charge of
  383.  
  384. [03-Oct-19 03:32 PM] sei#0242
  385. and what you did
  386.  
  387. [03-Oct-19 03:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  388. Yeah exactly.
  389.  
  390. [03-Oct-19 03:33 PM] sei#0242
  391. gunsmith would be easier to lie about I think
  392.  
  393. [03-Oct-19 03:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  394. It would be. Would need to be prepared to lie about who you investigated.
  395.  
  396. [03-Oct-19 03:34 PM] sei#0242
  397. mhm
  398.  
  399. [03-Oct-19 03:34 PM] sei#0242
  400. vigilante could be possible to lie about who you killed. Since we know who we targeted the night prior
  401.  
  402. [03-Oct-19 03:34 PM] sei#0242
  403. if one of us is killed
  404.  
  405. [03-Oct-19 03:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  406. That may not be the best cause if someone counter claims you're trading 1:1 potentially.
  407.  
  408. [03-Oct-19 03:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  409. This game is actually pretty tricky to navigate.
  410.  
  411. [03-Oct-19 03:36 PM] sei#0242
  412. I'm thinking a scenario where a night phase ends with one of us targeted and also investigated. Basically turns it into a he said she said
  413.  
  414. [03-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Zarania#5789
  415. 🙂
  416.  
  417. [03-Oct-19 03:36 PM] Zarania#5789
  418. I didn't want to make it too easy!
  419.  
  420. [03-Oct-19 03:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  421. Lol
  422.  
  423. [03-Oct-19 03:36 PM] sei#0242
  424. gives more control to claim vigilante at that point that a gunsmith
  425.  
  426. [03-Oct-19 03:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  427. I think the game is always harder for Mafia.
  428.  
  429. [03-Oct-19 03:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  430. Here's hoping some LUL stuff happens with Moral Vig and War Vet.
  431.  
  432. [03-Oct-19 03:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  433. If it doesn't happen at least once I'll be upset. Also I foresee people role claiming bullshit roles like Investigators when they are War Vets.
  434.  
  435. [03-Oct-19 04:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  436. ||Omg I have a brilliant idea, if we say everything in spoilers Zar can't copy paste our chat after. 🙃 ||
  437.  
  438. [03-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Zarania#5789
  439. ||pretty sure my exporter gets spoilers||
  440.  
  441. [03-Oct-19 04:53 PM] Zarania#5789
  442. I can't copy / paste the whole thing, but I use a tool that exports it
  443.  
  444. [03-Oct-19 04:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  445. Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
  446.  
  447. [03-Oct-19 04:55 PM] sei#0242
  448. ||everything would just have double lines flanking it||
  449.  
  450. [03-Oct-19 04:55 PM] sei#0242
  451. ||t-5 minutes btw||
  452.  
  453. [03-Oct-19 05:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  454. Yeah see Eli is already asking for a role call on any War Vets.
  455.  
  456. [03-Oct-19 05:28 PM] sei#0242
  457. I think I'll agree with Eli?
  458.  
  459. [03-Oct-19 05:29 PM] sei#0242
  460. Come out strong that it is good for town to know who the vet(s) are
  461.  
  462. [03-Oct-19 05:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  463. Yeah, statistically it is smarter for town to know who War Vet is, but at the same time it negates the role entirely.
  464.  
  465. [03-Oct-19 05:29 PM] sei#0242
  466. well it is bad for us for sure lol
  467.  
  468. [03-Oct-19 05:30 PM] sei#0242
  469. so if we can convince anyone to at least claim it, we can avoid them for now
  470.  
  471. [03-Oct-19 05:30 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  472. Like technically a War Vet could claim investigator or something in an attempt to draw the attention of the mafia.
  473.  
  474. [03-Oct-19 05:30 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  475. However what if you get Doctor/Bodyguard then.
  476.  
  477. [03-Oct-19 05:30 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  478. You just kill them.
  479.  
  480. [03-Oct-19 05:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  481. It would honestly be smart if a strong investigative town role claimed War Vet.
  482.  
  483. [03-Oct-19 05:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  484. Just so they got left alone.
  485.  
  486. [03-Oct-19 05:31 PM] sei#0242
  487. maybe we can convince ppl to just vote out the war vets
  488.  
  489. [03-Oct-19 05:32 PM] sei#0242
  490. If we frame it that having them around is bad for everyone because of accidental deaths
  491.  
  492. [03-Oct-19 05:33 PM] sei#0242
  493. makes for an easy first vote if we can convince anyone to claim it
  494.  
  495. [03-Oct-19 05:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  496. Maybe you do a post agreeing with Eli, then I can do a post later saying the disadvantage of doing this is that scum could claim it to try and get a free pass.
  497.  
  498. [03-Oct-19 05:33 PM] sei#0242
  499. That could be good. And then hopefully someone claims
  500.  
  501. [03-Oct-19 05:33 PM] sei#0242
  502. and then I can come back and say, well let's just vote them out
  503.  
  504. [03-Oct-19 05:34 PM] sei#0242
  505. and establishes a separation between the two of us
  506.  
  507. [03-Oct-19 05:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  508. Yeah, if we have contradicting view points it can help us look like we aren't working together.
  509.  
  510. [03-Oct-19 05:36 PM] sei#0242
  511. I'll hold off on anything for now. About to afk for a couple hours to do some errands and go to the gym. Also don't want to start playing too hard too quickly
  512.  
  513. [03-Oct-19 05:36 PM] sei#0242
  514. Things should pick up on their own soon as ppl get off work
  515.  
  516. [03-Oct-19 05:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  517. K, maybe I'll do my post now then?
  518.  
  519. [03-Oct-19 05:37 PM] sei#0242
  520. I think it may be stronger if someone agrees with Eli first
  521.  
  522. [03-Oct-19 05:38 PM] sei#0242
  523. I'll just go ahead and make my post and then afk
  524.  
  525. [03-Oct-19 05:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  526. Ok sounds good.
  527.  
  528. [03-Oct-19 05:45 PM] sei#0242
  529. Probably wait a bit and see if anyone bites and claims
  530.  
  531. [03-Oct-19 05:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  532. Yeah I will.
  533.  
  534. [03-Oct-19 06:04 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  535. What if we had someone claim War Vet? Or would that be too risk.
  536.  
  537. [03-Oct-19 06:05 PM] sei#0242
  538. I think too risky
  539.  
  540. [03-Oct-19 07:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  541. So if we don't participate in the meme vote are we going to get accused of being scum.
  542.  
  543. [03-Oct-19 07:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  544. Swolfi is hysterical.
  545.  
  546. [03-Oct-19 07:52 PM] sei#0242
  547. I think one of us could
  548.  
  549. [03-Oct-19 07:52 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  550. I could, since I was saying I would meme vote him anyways before the game started.
  551.  
  552. [03-Oct-19 07:52 PM] sei#0242
  553. I don't think we want the vote to go through. At least not yet
  554.  
  555. [03-Oct-19 07:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  556. Would need 4 more.
  557.  
  558. [03-Oct-19 07:53 PM] sei#0242
  559. I could accuse the three of them
  560.  
  561. [03-Oct-19 07:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  562. Of being scum?
  563.  
  564. [03-Oct-19 07:54 PM] sei#0242
  565. Mieranda and Ice already threw some shade on Scan for it
  566.  
  567. [03-Oct-19 07:54 PM] sei#0242
  568. Yeah
  569.  
  570. [03-Oct-19 07:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  571. Could be risky to straight up call out all three.
  572.  
  573. [03-Oct-19 07:54 PM] sei#0242
  574. True. Good to have for rousing later though
  575.  
  576. [03-Oct-19 07:54 PM] sei#0242
  577. Especially if the two of them vote together early again
  578.  
  579. [03-Oct-19 07:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  580. You could mention something if I do put in a meme vote though.
  581.  
  582. [03-Oct-19 07:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  583. Yeah for sure.
  584.  
  585. [03-Oct-19 07:55 PM] sei#0242
  586. We could also bring up free masons
  587.  
  588. [03-Oct-19 07:56 PM] sei#0242
  589. As a way to confirm two townies
  590.  
  591. [03-Oct-19 07:56 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  592. Say we are Freemason?
  593.  
  594. [03-Oct-19 07:56 PM] sei#0242
  595. Nah, that'd be too easy for them to call us on
  596.  
  597. [03-Oct-19 07:56 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  598. Yeah
  599.  
  600. [03-Oct-19 07:56 PM] sei#0242
  601. Since all they have to do is investigate one and see we have guns
  602.  
  603. [03-Oct-19 07:56 PM] sei#0242
  604. I'm saying we ask the Freemasons to claim
  605.  
  606. [03-Oct-19 07:57 PM] sei#0242
  607. As a way to help town to start establishing roles
  608.  
  609. [03-Oct-19 07:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  610. Hmm... I think that's a good play for the town though, so I'm not sure if I want to give them the idea haha.
  611.  
  612. [03-Oct-19 07:57 PM] sei#0242
  613. Makes us look like town though
  614.  
  615. [03-Oct-19 07:58 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  616. True
  617.  
  618. [03-Oct-19 07:58 PM] sei#0242
  619. If we cement ourselves as town early, it can help ppl trust us the whole game
  620.  
  621. [03-Oct-19 07:58 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  622. Something E could do?
  623.  
  624. [03-Oct-19 08:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  625. I'm almost never for role claiming though
  626.  
  627. [03-Oct-19 08:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  628. E! Hello!
  629.  
  630. [03-Oct-19 08:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  631. I just got home D:
  632.  
  633. [03-Oct-19 08:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  634. Lol it's fine.
  635.  
  636. [03-Oct-19 08:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  637. starting to read the thread now
  638.  
  639. [03-Oct-19 08:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  640. Not much has gone on.
  641.  
  642. [03-Oct-19 08:43 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  643. I'd like to argue with Eli about asking the Vet to claim. One, because I love to rile up Eli. Two, I am always of the opinion that role claiming anything day one is ridiculous.
  644.  
  645. [03-Oct-19 08:44 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  646. "Having the threat of dying in the night puts fear into the mafia. No way should they role claim yet"
  647.  
  648. [03-Oct-19 08:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  649. Not only that but Vet is a pretty good thing for Mafia to claim early.
  650.  
  651. [03-Oct-19 08:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  652. I'm down with messing with Eli. Honestly I kinda of want him dead early anyways.
  653.  
  654. [03-Oct-19 08:45 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  655. it's an easy argument that makes me look pro town, AND will probably get some people going
  656.  
  657. [03-Oct-19 08:46 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  658. Yeah I agree.
  659.  
  660. [03-Oct-19 09:24 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  661. Wait, what is Oaf referring to?
  662.  
  663. [03-Oct-19 09:25 PM] Zarania#5789
  664. `If anyone saw that I had the two posts that were accidently posted to the Mafia forum instead of app forum deleted. Nothing of game importance was there`
  665.  
  666. [03-Oct-19 09:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  667. the same thing Zar once saved me from in discord. lol
  668.  
  669. [03-Oct-19 09:26 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  670. Oh I see.
  671.  
  672. [03-Oct-19 09:31 PM] sei#0242
  673. I think I might make a post disagreeing with E
  674.  
  675. [03-Oct-19 09:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  676. Sounds good and normal
  677.  
  678. [03-Oct-19 09:32 PM] sei#0242
  679. Should give us all some cover
  680.  
  681. [03-Oct-19 09:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  682. Just be careful because we don't want people to be like ok, Vote: E
  683.  
  684. [03-Oct-19 09:32 PM] sei#0242
  685. And separation
  686.  
  687. [03-Oct-19 09:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  688. But it is good to give us some separation.
  689.  
  690. [03-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  691. He said disagree, not throw dynamite D:
  692.  
  693. [03-Oct-19 09:33 PM] sei#0242
  694. Nah, I don't think it will go that extreme. I'll just make some numbers about chance of visiting the vet and how it's worse for town to have them anonymous
  695.  
  696. [03-Oct-19 09:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  697. People take things in weird directions in these games though.
  698.  
  699. [03-Oct-19 09:33 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  700. will make you look good I think. Mafia would want vet to claim I'd think?
  701.  
  702. [03-Oct-19 09:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  703. I think there are solid arguments for both sides.
  704.  
  705. [03-Oct-19 09:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  706. Tbh
  707.  
  708. [03-Oct-19 09:34 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  709. true
  710.  
  711. [03-Oct-19 09:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  712. Like I'm actually not sure what is better for town.
  713.  
  714. [03-Oct-19 09:34 PM] sei#0242
  715. The town has more total actions to take
  716.  
  717. [03-Oct-19 09:34 PM] sei#0242
  718. So has a higher chance of hitting the vet
  719.  
  720. [03-Oct-19 09:35 PM] sei#0242
  721. But, the consequence for mafia is worse
  722.  
  723. [03-Oct-19 09:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  724. Yeah hitting a mafia is big, but statistically you are significantly more likely to lose multiple town.
  725.  
  726. [03-Oct-19 09:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  727. If you guys are going to go between it I'll stay out.
  728.  
  729. [03-Oct-19 09:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  730. Three might be too much?
  731.  
  732. [03-Oct-19 09:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  733. depends on what you'd normally do, or think everyone would believe you'd do
  734.  
  735. [03-Oct-19 09:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  736. At this point I think I've been playing consistent.
  737.  
  738. [03-Oct-19 09:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  739. Btw in all the mafia I've played with DJs, I don't think I've seen yet Mafia people disagreeing with each other on the forums?
  740.  
  741. [03-Oct-19 09:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  742. I could just be not realizing it.
  743.  
  744. [03-Oct-19 09:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  745. oh we have. Older games
  746.  
  747. [03-Oct-19 09:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  748. Yeah but these recent games.
  749.  
  750. [03-Oct-19 09:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  751. Seems like the scum just stay quiet and NEVER reference each other in any way.
  752.  
  753. [03-Oct-19 09:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  754. So I think this is good to confuse people.
  755.  
  756. [03-Oct-19 09:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  757. I think there was a game where Sparty and I had a full blown arguement over something
  758.  
  759. [03-Oct-19 09:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  760. Haha did people believe it?
  761.  
  762. [03-Oct-19 09:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  763. I don't recall! I might be misremembering too, might not have even been me lol
  764.  
  765. [03-Oct-19 09:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  766. I'm totally down for doing something like that if we get a good moment for it.
  767.  
  768. [03-Oct-19 09:44 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  769. for sure, underutilized
  770.  
  771. [03-Oct-19 09:48 PM] sei#0242
  772. hm. I'm doing the napkin math
  773.  
  774. [03-Oct-19 09:48 PM] sei#0242
  775. and actually it is probably way better for us to have a vet in the game
  776.  
  777. [03-Oct-19 09:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  778. Assuming the don't claim I agree.
  779.  
  780. [03-Oct-19 09:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  781. If they do, we could sublety hint at scum claiming vet to go under the radar is something they could do.
  782.  
  783. [03-Oct-19 09:57 PM] sei#0242
  784. Putting some quick napkin math to it:
  785. Zar stated that roles are not exclusive or set. So there may be 0,1, or more vets. Let's assume there is 1.
  786. There are 11 possible town night visit roles (friendly neighbor, vigilante, mailman, gunsmith, follower, tracker, private eye, jailer, lady of the night, body guard, and doctor). And 3 non-night visit roles (freemason, vet, captain).
  787. We don't know how many mafia there are, so let's say there are 4. Let's assume that the 7 of the remaining town have visit roles for town to accidentally visit the vet and die (13 - 4 mafia - 1 vet - 1 nonvisit = 7).
  788. That means there is a 7/11 (13 - 1 lynch - 1 vet = 11) chance for town to accidentally get killed by a vet night 1.
  789. The probability would get even worse for night two.
  790. The probability is also worse if there are 3 mafia. 8/11.
  791.  
  792. To me, if there is a vet present, claiming it is the safest choice at this point in the game. They remain a loyal town vote during the day and mafia can't touch them during the night. As trading 1-1 town to mafia is a terrible trade for the mafia.
  793.  
  794. [03-Oct-19 09:58 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  795. yep, my eyes just glossed over, I'd assume you're pro town
  796.  
  797. [03-Oct-19 09:59 PM] sei#0242
  798. that's what I was going for
  799.  
  800. [03-Oct-19 09:59 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  801. Anyone doing that kind of breakdown I would say is protown.
  802.  
  803. [03-Oct-19 09:59 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  804. Based off the games I have played with DJs.
  805.  
  806. [03-Oct-19 09:59 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  807. Because previous scum have never done that.
  808.  
  809. [03-Oct-19 09:59 PM] sei#0242
  810. So the question is, do we gain more value from that
  811.  
  812. [03-Oct-19 09:59 PM] sei#0242
  813. from the cover and protown
  814.  
  815. [03-Oct-19 09:59 PM] sei#0242
  816. or from not giving them that information
  817.  
  818. [03-Oct-19 09:59 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  819. having them think your town is worth the trade in my book. Eli would be ravenously on your side
  820.  
  821. [03-Oct-19 10:00 PM] sei#0242
  822. also, if we don't know who the vet is, I think we don't even bother with using our night actions
  823.  
  824. [03-Oct-19 10:00 PM] sei#0242
  825. just send 1 to do the kill
  826.  
  827. [03-Oct-19 10:00 PM] sei#0242
  828. because neither of our powers are that strong for mafia. To risk a 2/10 chance of hitting a vet
  829.  
  830. [03-Oct-19 10:00 PM] sei#0242
  831. so we're better of sticking to the 1/10 chance
  832.  
  833. [03-Oct-19 10:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  834. Our night actions are of little importance imo
  835.  
  836. [03-Oct-19 10:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  837. Mailman could be good late game.
  838.  
  839. [03-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  840. but.. that super cool letter sending.
  841.  
  842. [03-Oct-19 10:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  843. For me trying to get someone on my side, early idk what it's going to do.
  844.  
  845. [03-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  846. ok, seriously though, I'd love to mess with people's heads with sending letters
  847.  
  848. [03-Oct-19 10:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  849. If you really want to we can haha.
  850.  
  851. [03-Oct-19 10:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  852. I'm down.
  853.  
  854. [03-Oct-19 10:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  855. when it's safer
  856.  
  857. [03-Oct-19 10:02 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  858. Illi is that what you're going to post?
  859.  
  860. [03-Oct-19 10:02 PM] sei#0242
  861. yeah, that's what I would post
  862.  
  863. [03-Oct-19 10:02 PM] sei#0242
  864. if you think I should
  865.  
  866. [03-Oct-19 10:02 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  867. I think you should
  868.  
  869. [03-Oct-19 10:02 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  870. Yeah I dun think there is anything wrong with it.
  871.  
  872. [03-Oct-19 10:02 PM] sei#0242
  873. well, if no one claims vet. We have a 8/11 chance of getting a free kill I think?
  874.  
  875. [03-Oct-19 10:03 PM] sei#0242
  876. If my math is correct, which it is probably not
  877.  
  878. [03-Oct-19 10:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  879. If I made a post after with something along the lines of "I just want to point out that scum can easily claim being a Vet to try and stay under the radar and avoid investigations." do you think that would be too much?
  880.  
  881. [03-Oct-19 10:03 PM] sei#0242
  882. it's been a long time since I had to do probabilities like that
  883.  
  884. [03-Oct-19 10:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  885. There could be 0 though.
  886.  
  887. [03-Oct-19 10:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  888. Even if there is one, we are likely going to have to lose someone to it anyways.
  889.  
  890. [03-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  891. I think you should mention that Cloudes, but also keep in mind that we need to be careful of too obvious synergy in our arguements
  892.  
  893. [03-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  894. mentioning it though implants the idea of the claiming vet being suspicious
  895.  
  896. [03-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  897. which is good for us
  898.  
  899. [03-Oct-19 10:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  900. you've also been pretty active these first few pages lol
  901.  
  902. [03-Oct-19 10:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  903. Yeah that's the thing, I don't want it to see like we are working together. But we are all presenting entirely different view points.
  904.  
  905. [03-Oct-19 10:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  906. I'm almost always active.
  907.  
  908. [03-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  909. yeah, and the first few pages aren't worth much anyway
  910.  
  911. [03-Oct-19 10:08 PM] sei#0242
  912. Ok, I'll go ahead an post then
  913.  
  914. [03-Oct-19 10:08 PM] sei#0242
  915. hopefully other people start talking and give some space
  916.  
  917. [03-Oct-19 10:08 PM] sei#0242
  918. and then you can make a counter argument
  919.  
  920. [03-Oct-19 10:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  921. I'm not going to vote Ice or Rawk, I've already stated several times that meme voting is silly
  922.  
  923. [03-Oct-19 10:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  924. Quiet people are good for us.
  925.  
  926. [03-Oct-19 10:09 PM] sei#0242
  927. yeah, it's for the memes
  928.  
  929. [03-Oct-19 10:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  930. I think one of use should vote Ice, and it should be me.
  931.  
  932. [03-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  933. so I'm just gonna hold until there's something
  934.  
  935. [03-Oct-19 10:09 PM] sei#0242
  936. oh, I did already, but I'm unvoting in this post
  937.  
  938. [03-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  939. Illi already did it
  940.  
  941. [03-Oct-19 10:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  942. Oh ok then.
  943.  
  944. [03-Oct-19 10:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  945. The random vote unvote might look weird.
  946.  
  947. [03-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  948. eh, it would, but the meme. "ok, seriously though, Unvote" would take care of it. Probably not even needed
  949.  
  950. [03-Oct-19 10:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  951. This game as been a lot quieter then last game.
  952.  
  953. [03-Oct-19 10:18 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  954. middle of the week?
  955.  
  956. [03-Oct-19 10:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  957. True.
  958.  
  959. [03-Oct-19 10:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  960. Should blow up tomorrow/weekend.
  961.  
  962. [03-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  963. I mean, I dunno. I'm excited because I have a secret channel to plot in. But I did work 10 hours today, not including lunch and 40 mins driving time each way
  964.  
  965. [03-Oct-19 10:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  966. It's a lot of fun plotting like this.
  967.  
  968. [03-Oct-19 10:29 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  969. going to have to be so careful to be clicked into the right channel...
  970.  
  971. [03-Oct-19 10:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  972. Lol yup.
  973.  
  974. [03-Oct-19 11:13 PM] sei#0242
  975. Why is no one playing the game 😡
  976.  
  977. [03-Oct-19 11:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  978. Idk
  979.  
  980. [03-Oct-19 11:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  981. it's late!
  982.  
  983. [03-Oct-19 11:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  984. Maybe they are on to us. 🤔
  985.  
  986. [03-Oct-19 11:15 PM] sei#0242
  987. Nah. So little has happened
  988.  
  989. [03-Oct-19 11:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  990. Haha I know.
  991.  
  992. [03-Oct-19 11:15 PM] sei#0242
  993. Maybe ppl are still recovering from the last one
  994.  
  995. [03-Oct-19 11:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  996. But I feel the same way, I want people to say stuff.
  997.  
  998. [03-Oct-19 11:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  999. True
  1000.  
  1001. [03-Oct-19 11:19 PM] sei#0242
  1002. Lots of ppl were on around the time I posted it. Eli, Sparty, Scan, Lethor, Rawk were all online and on the forum in the 10min after the post. So idk. Probably best to lay low for a while and wait for more talk
  1003.  
  1004. [03-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1005. yeah, I'm not refreshing at all. Telltale sign, and Sparty watches.
  1006.  
  1007. [03-Oct-19 11:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1008. What does Sparty watch?
  1009.  
  1010. [03-Oct-19 11:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1011. who's online, viewing that forum
  1012.  
  1013. [03-Oct-19 11:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1014. I mean I just always have the tab open basically lol
  1015.  
  1016. [03-Oct-19 11:21 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1017. yeah, the tab can be open, but the forum shows who's currently active
  1018.  
  1019. [03-Oct-19 11:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1020. But what does he gain from that?
  1021.  
  1022. [03-Oct-19 11:22 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1023. scum roles tend to be super active, and refresh together
  1024.  
  1025. [03-Oct-19 11:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1026. Sure you see who's on the forums but does that matters?
  1027.  
  1028. [03-Oct-19 11:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1029. Oh
  1030.  
  1031. [03-Oct-19 11:23 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1032. See that's something I've never read into.
  1033.  
  1034. [03-Oct-19 11:23 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1035. any set of names that appear together frequently, you can tag as possibly cooperating
  1036.  
  1037. [03-Oct-19 11:24 PM] sei#0242
  1038. Hm. Seems like a stretch to me
  1039.  
  1040. [03-Oct-19 11:24 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1041. it is, but it's something more than a few people watch
  1042.  
  1043. [03-Oct-19 11:24 PM] sei#0242
  1044. I will look if no ones talking but lots are lurking
  1045.  
  1046. [03-Oct-19 11:24 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1047. I don't check the forums at work, because it's a super pain to read on my phone
  1048.  
  1049. [03-Oct-19 11:24 PM] sei#0242
  1050. Like during a vote
  1051.  
  1052. [03-Oct-19 11:25 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1053. Something we can be conscious of.
  1054.  
  1055. [04-Oct-19 12:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1056. Wait Zar, do all mafia have the killing tag?
  1057.  
  1058. [04-Oct-19 12:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1059. Or just Gun?
  1060.  
  1061. [04-Oct-19 12:44 AM] Zarania#5789
  1062. just gun tag
  1063.  
  1064. [04-Oct-19 12:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1065. Oh fak
  1066.  
  1067. [04-Oct-19 12:45 AM] Zarania#5789
  1068. if they go kill for the night and a Follower is watching the person sent to kill they will see it be a Killing action however
  1069.  
  1070. [04-Oct-19 12:45 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1071. But if I do nothing, I'm communication?
  1072.  
  1073. [04-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Zarania#5789
  1074. yes
  1075.  
  1076. [04-Oct-19 12:46 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1077. Ok
  1078.  
  1079. [04-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Zarania#5789
  1080. however if you do nothing you have no action taken
  1081.  
  1082. [04-Oct-19 12:46 AM] Zarania#5789
  1083. from what you said earlier
  1084.  
  1085. [04-Oct-19 12:47 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1086. Jeez there's a lot of moving parts here.
  1087.  
  1088. [04-Oct-19 12:47 AM] Zarania#5789
  1089. 🙂
  1090.  
  1091. [04-Oct-19 12:55 PM] sei#0242
  1092. nothing really shaping up yet
  1093.  
  1094. [04-Oct-19 12:55 PM] sei#0242
  1095. I wonder if we can target Sparty? Since he always seems to have it out for E, getting him out early would be good for us
  1096.  
  1097. [04-Oct-19 12:56 PM] sei#0242
  1098. He's already starting the game a bit shady. Ice and Scan calling him out a bit. We could probably roll with that
  1099.  
  1100. [04-Oct-19 01:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1101. I was also thinking the fact that Sparty likes to target E is concerning.
  1102.  
  1103. [04-Oct-19 01:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1104. Do you think people would bodyguard/doctor Sparty though?
  1105.  
  1106. [04-Oct-19 01:08 PM] sei#0242
  1107. I'm saying we try to push for a lynch on him
  1108.  
  1109. [04-Oct-19 01:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1110. On Sparty?
  1111.  
  1112. [04-Oct-19 01:08 PM] sei#0242
  1113. yeah
  1114.  
  1115. [04-Oct-19 01:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1116. Does being the people to start the lynch make us look suspicious though?
  1117.  
  1118. [04-Oct-19 01:12 PM] sei#0242
  1119. idk. We can wait and see for now
  1120.  
  1121. [04-Oct-19 01:12 PM] sei#0242
  1122. But I'm thinking maybe Ice will vote sparty
  1123.  
  1124. [04-Oct-19 01:13 PM] sei#0242
  1125. and ice already has 3 votes on him. So that won't look particularly suspicious from his end
  1126.  
  1127. [04-Oct-19 01:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1128. Holy shit D1 doesn't end till Sunday.
  1129.  
  1130. [04-Oct-19 01:13 PM] sei#0242
  1131. from there, we're just picking a side
  1132.  
  1133. [04-Oct-19 01:13 PM] sei#0242
  1134. and say that Sparty's comments so far make him more suspicious than Ice as a meme vote
  1135.  
  1136. [04-Oct-19 01:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1137. If there is a split vote, I think we should also split our votes.
  1138.  
  1139. [04-Oct-19 01:13 PM] sei#0242
  1140. yeah, that's smart
  1141.  
  1142. [04-Oct-19 01:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1143. I think something we should actively try to do is monitor our voting patterns, and try to make them never be consistent.
  1144.  
  1145. [04-Oct-19 05:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1146. More meme votes on Ice.
  1147.  
  1148. [04-Oct-19 05:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1149. Zar what happens if a Mafia and a Moral Vig both try to kill someone the same night?
  1150.  
  1151. [04-Oct-19 05:26 PM] Zarania#5789
  1152. Moral Vig thinks they kill them and they die
  1153.  
  1154. [04-Oct-19 05:26 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1155. Thought so.
  1156.  
  1157. [04-Oct-19 05:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1158. Eli and Tzo put there votes in one after another, maybe Freemason.
  1159.  
  1160. [04-Oct-19 05:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1161. I was thinking however that Eli could be an investigative role, hence him asking about War Vets.
  1162.  
  1163. [04-Oct-19 06:09 PM] sei#0242
  1164. ice 1 vote away
  1165.  
  1166. [04-Oct-19 06:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1167. Yeah don't do it imo
  1168.  
  1169. [04-Oct-19 06:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1170. Just let me be me.
  1171.  
  1172. [04-Oct-19 06:09 PM] sei#0242
  1173. yeah, agreed
  1174.  
  1175. [04-Oct-19 06:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1176. I've always be a proponent of lynching day 1, so it shouldn't seem suspicious.
  1177.  
  1178. [04-Oct-19 06:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1179. And before the game I said I was going to vote Ice.
  1180.  
  1181. [04-Oct-19 06:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1182. Illi looks so pro town.
  1183.  
  1184. [04-Oct-19 06:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1185. The only thing is you're giving them good ideas haha.
  1186.  
  1187. [04-Oct-19 06:33 PM] sei#0242
  1188. We're going to vote someone out before the end of day either way at this rate
  1189.  
  1190. [04-Oct-19 06:34 PM] sei#0242
  1191. at least I can look super town
  1192.  
  1193. [04-Oct-19 06:34 PM] sei#0242
  1194. Once I have the trust, then I can start picking ppl off
  1195.  
  1196. [04-Oct-19 06:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1197. Do you think you're a better choice to kill then tonight?
  1198.  
  1199. [04-Oct-19 06:34 PM] sei#0242
  1200. throwing misdirection
  1201.  
  1202. [04-Oct-19 06:35 PM] sei#0242
  1203. we'll see if someone gets suspicious of me being too pro-town
  1204.  
  1205. [04-Oct-19 06:35 PM] sei#0242
  1206. otherwise, yeah I'm probably a good person to do it night one
  1207.  
  1208. [04-Oct-19 06:35 PM] sei#0242
  1209. since ppl may not think to track/follow me
  1210.  
  1211. [04-Oct-19 06:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1212. Yeah that's what I'm thinking.
  1213.  
  1214. [04-Oct-19 06:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1215. I honestly think I may drawn investigation because I've gone so many games now being town.
  1216.  
  1217. [04-Oct-19 06:38 PM] sei#0242
  1218. Does the message from the mailman say who it is?
  1219.  
  1220. [04-Oct-19 06:38 PM] sei#0242
  1221. Like could you send a message and say it is me?
  1222.  
  1223. [04-Oct-19 06:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1224. I think something we need to be very aware of is how the investigative roles work.
  1225.  
  1226. [04-Oct-19 06:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1227. It does not say who it's from, however I can say whatever I want in the letter.
  1228.  
  1229. [04-Oct-19 06:39 PM] sei#0242
  1230. That may be very useful in later nights
  1231.  
  1232. [04-Oct-19 06:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1233. Yeah it could be.
  1234.  
  1235. [04-Oct-19 06:39 PM] sei#0242
  1236. Especially if I have ppl trusting me, then you could say it's me
  1237.  
  1238. [04-Oct-19 06:40 PM] sei#0242
  1239. So the biggest threat to us would be follower and tracker
  1240.  
  1241. [04-Oct-19 06:40 PM] sei#0242
  1242. targeting the person doing the kill
  1243.  
  1244. [04-Oct-19 06:41 PM] sei#0242
  1245. as both of those would essentially confirm us as mafia
  1246.  
  1247. [04-Oct-19 06:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1248. Something to remember though, if someone investigates you they either learn:
  1249.  
  1250. A) Who you visited
  1251. B) What your role "group" is
  1252. C) Exactly what your role is
  1253. D) If you own a gun
  1254.  
  1255. [04-Oct-19 06:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1256. So if you have multiple people investigating you over the game.
  1257.  
  1258. [04-Oct-19 06:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1259. It can get real hard to lie.
  1260.  
  1261. [04-Oct-19 06:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1262. Because say someone calls you out on visiting someone in the night.
  1263.  
  1264. [04-Oct-19 06:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1265. If you say "Oh I'm a Tracker".
  1266.  
  1267. [04-Oct-19 06:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1268. And the Gumsmith also looked at you.
  1269.  
  1270. [04-Oct-19 06:42 PM] sei#0242
  1271. probably safest to claim gunsmith if that happens
  1272.  
  1273. [04-Oct-19 06:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1274. You're in trouble real quick.
  1275.  
  1276. [04-Oct-19 06:42 PM] sei#0242
  1277. as it gives cover with the gun
  1278.  
  1279. [04-Oct-19 06:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1280. But then if the Private eye looks at you they know exactly who you are.
  1281.  
  1282. [04-Oct-19 06:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1283. Honestly it's going to come down to a lot of luck.
  1284.  
  1285. [04-Oct-19 06:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1286. If you get called out, choose the safest option and hope no one else has been investigating you.
  1287.  
  1288. [04-Oct-19 06:43 PM] sei#0242
  1289. yeah
  1290.  
  1291. [04-Oct-19 06:49 PM] sei#0242
  1292. maybe E does the kill since she has been laying pretty low? Basically what we have to worry about in that case is her accidentally killing the vet. So a ~10% chance potentially
  1293.  
  1294. [04-Oct-19 06:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1295. I believe E said earlier meme votes are dumb though.
  1296.  
  1297. [04-Oct-19 06:50 PM] sei#0242
  1298. I meant the night kill
  1299.  
  1300. [04-Oct-19 06:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1301. Oh.
  1302.  
  1303. [04-Oct-19 06:50 PM] sei#0242
  1304. I don't think either me or her should vote Ice at this point
  1305.  
  1306. [04-Oct-19 06:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1307. The only thing about that is she has by far the strongest role of all of us
  1308.  
  1309. [04-Oct-19 06:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1310. And I'm pretty sure Sparty is always suspicious of E.
  1311.  
  1312. [04-Oct-19 06:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1313. She is the only person that can be outed by the Private Eye though.
  1314.  
  1315. [04-Oct-19 06:51 PM] sei#0242
  1316. yeah, instant scum confirmation
  1317.  
  1318. [04-Oct-19 07:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1319. What we could do Illi is have you play the pro town role all game, and even do so if votes are started against me or E.
  1320.  
  1321. [04-Oct-19 07:06 PM] sei#0242
  1322. that's what I'm thinking
  1323.  
  1324. [04-Oct-19 07:06 PM] sei#0242
  1325. I mean obviously we try to avoid that
  1326.  
  1327. [04-Oct-19 07:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1328. Obviously whoever is voting on confirmed scum means nothing. But if me or E get called out for having just a gun, that's not 100% hard evidence that you could toss a vote.
  1329.  
  1330. [04-Oct-19 07:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1331. Honestly I think scum try too hard sometimes to save their fellow scum and that's their downfall.
  1332.  
  1333. [04-Oct-19 07:08 PM] sei#0242
  1334. mhm
  1335.  
  1336. [04-Oct-19 07:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1337. But then at the same time what if it's the one bus vote that is the reason the lynch happens. 🤷‍♀️
  1338.  
  1339. [04-Oct-19 07:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1340. I'm wondering if someone is going to call you out on being pro D1 Lynch but not hammering ice.
  1341.  
  1342. [04-Oct-19 07:12 PM] sei#0242
  1343. That's why I emphasized I want more information to come out first
  1344.  
  1345. [04-Oct-19 07:12 PM] sei#0242
  1346. made it clear that I'm pro day 1 lynch, but still would like more discussion and role claims first in that post and the one after it
  1347.  
  1348. [04-Oct-19 07:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1349. Just careful, D1 information is usually misleading and often benefits the scum more often then the town.
  1350.  
  1351. [04-Oct-19 07:14 PM] sei#0242
  1352. I think I'm done stirring the pot for now. It got a few more ppl to talk. Hadn't heard from Cramer or Mieranda in a while
  1353.  
  1354. [04-Oct-19 07:14 PM] sei#0242
  1355. and they posted back to back again. just like on pg2
  1356.  
  1357. [04-Oct-19 07:15 PM] sei#0242
  1358. I wonder if they are freemason, or just coincidence
  1359.  
  1360. [04-Oct-19 10:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1361. Sparty going ham for Ice.
  1362.  
  1363. [04-Oct-19 11:08 PM] sei#0242
  1364. I wonder if we could flip the vote onto him
  1365.  
  1366. [04-Oct-19 11:09 PM] sei#0242
  1367. call him out for going hard
  1368.  
  1369. [04-Oct-19 11:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1370. Honestly I have a feeling he's going to do that himself.
  1371.  
  1372. [04-Oct-19 11:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1373. Wouldn't be opposed to getting Sparty gone early though.
  1374.  
  1375. [04-Oct-19 11:10 PM] sei#0242
  1376. do what himself?
  1377.  
  1378. [04-Oct-19 11:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1379. Flip the vote onto himself.
  1380.  
  1381. [04-Oct-19 11:11 PM] sei#0242
  1382. Ice already put a vote on him
  1383.  
  1384. [04-Oct-19 11:11 PM] sei#0242
  1385. I could add to it
  1386.  
  1387. [04-Oct-19 11:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1388. If you want to go ahead.
  1389.  
  1390. [05-Oct-19 01:30 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  1391. Sorry I've been mia, guys. Had to set up Halloween decor after the raid and haven't even checked the mafia thread.
  1392.  
  1393. [05-Oct-19 01:32 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1394. No worries, been pretty uneventful.
  1395.  
  1396. [05-Oct-19 01:33 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1397. Just Sparty and Ice arguing which I'm fine with
  1398.  
  1399. [05-Oct-19 01:44 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  1400. I checked in at least
  1401.  
  1402. [05-Oct-19 01:44 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  1403. I'll get more input tomorrow, I'm off work
  1404.  
  1405. [05-Oct-19 01:45 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1406. I honestly think in this game it's actually in out favor for a Lynch because of how many power roles there are.
  1407.  
  1408. [05-Oct-19 05:46 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1409. I hate that things have gone so dead right now, but the most active people at this point would be suspect scum.
  1410.  
  1411. [05-Oct-19 05:46 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1412. So I'm loathe to post now
  1413.  
  1414. [05-Oct-19 05:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1415. Yeah I think we just gotta be silent.
  1416.  
  1417. [05-Oct-19 07:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1418. Illi I think tonight or tomorrow you're going to have to vote Ice.
  1419.  
  1420. [05-Oct-19 07:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1421. Because you were pretty adamant about how D1 lynch is in towns favor.
  1422.  
  1423. [05-Oct-19 08:53 PM] sei#0242
  1424. Yeah, if nothing changes before that I'll make a post saying I don't want to, but voting somebody is better than nobody
  1425.  
  1426. [06-Oct-19 01:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1427. Only 1 left on Ice.
  1428.  
  1429. [06-Oct-19 01:09 PM] sei#0242
  1430. Damn. I didn't want to be the hammer
  1431.  
  1432. [06-Oct-19 01:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1433. Maybe just wait, see if someone else does it.
  1434.  
  1435. [06-Oct-19 01:10 PM] sei#0242
  1436. Was planning to make a post this afternoon about how I didn't necessarily want to vote Ice with no other information out, but that any vote was better than a no vote. And then vote
  1437.  
  1438. [06-Oct-19 01:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1439. Just wait imo
  1440.  
  1441. [06-Oct-19 01:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1442. Maybe someone else hammers.
  1443.  
  1444. [06-Oct-19 01:11 PM] sei#0242
  1445. You don't think it looks bad to not vote? Especially after I made a point about lynching day 1
  1446.  
  1447. [06-Oct-19 01:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1448. Not if someone else does it.
  1449.  
  1450. [06-Oct-19 01:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1451. If the day closers.
  1452.  
  1453. [06-Oct-19 01:12 PM] sei#0242
  1454. True
  1455.  
  1456. [06-Oct-19 01:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1457. And you don't, then yes.
  1458.  
  1459. [06-Oct-19 01:13 PM] sei#0242
  1460. I'll wait then and see what happens
  1461.  
  1462. [06-Oct-19 01:13 PM] sei#0242
  1463. Just lay low all day unless no one else does by the end
  1464.  
  1465. [06-Oct-19 01:13 PM] sei#0242
  1466. It's 8est, right?
  1467.  
  1468. [06-Oct-19 01:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1469. yeah
  1470.  
  1471. [06-Oct-19 01:37 PM] sei#0242
  1472. Yikes, Eli didn't make his unvote red
  1473.  
  1474. [06-Oct-19 01:37 PM] sei#0242
  1475. So rawk was the hammer lmao
  1476.  
  1477. [06-Oct-19 01:38 PM] sei#0242
  1478. So I guess that solves that
  1479.  
  1480. [06-Oct-19 01:38 PM] Zarania#5789
  1481. I honestly didn't see it or I'd have mentioned it to him. That's why I want them in red
  1482.  
  1483. [06-Oct-19 01:39 PM] sei#0242
  1484. I mean, rules are rules
  1485.  
  1486. [06-Oct-19 01:39 PM] Zarania#5789
  1487. Yeah
  1488.  
  1489. [06-Oct-19 01:39 PM] sei#0242
  1490. And it worked out for us 🤫
  1491.  
  1492. [06-Oct-19 01:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1493. Wait
  1494.  
  1495. [06-Oct-19 01:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1496. Ice was Vanilla town?
  1497.  
  1498. [06-Oct-19 01:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1499. I thought everyone had a role?
  1500.  
  1501. [06-Oct-19 01:44 PM] sei#0242
  1502. I think it was random? Maybe one of the random options was to be vanilla
  1503.  
  1504. [06-Oct-19 01:44 PM] sei#0242
  1505. Idk if Zar can tell us how roles were assigned
  1506.  
  1507. [06-Oct-19 01:44 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1508. @Zarania Plz confirm.
  1509.  
  1510. [06-Oct-19 01:44 PM] Zarania#5789
  1511. Ice was Vanilla Town
  1512.  
  1513. [06-Oct-19 01:44 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1514. Yeah but I thought everyone had a power role in this game?
  1515.  
  1516. [06-Oct-19 01:44 PM] Zarania#5789
  1517. Did I say everyone did?
  1518.  
  1519. [06-Oct-19 01:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1520. I guess that was my interpretation is all.
  1521.  
  1522. [06-Oct-19 01:45 PM] Zarania#5789
  1523. ```Role Madness refers to a type of game where most or all of the players have power roles; that is, there are few to no true Vanilla Townies. Because there are so many power roles, the veracity or effectiveness of Night Actions is very difficult to determine without knowledge of what the other players did.```
  1524.  
  1525. [06-Oct-19 01:46 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1526. I didn't see Vanilla Town as a listed role.
  1527.  
  1528. [06-Oct-19 01:46 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1529. That's probably why I thought that.
  1530.  
  1531. [06-Oct-19 01:46 PM] Zarania#5789
  1532. Ah, I only listed power roles
  1533.  
  1534. [06-Oct-19 01:47 PM] sei#0242
  1535. So who are we thinking for a kill? I think we should leave scan, lethor, and Sparty. As I think we can make them look like scum on day 2 with how they voted. Eli I think trusts us atm
  1536.  
  1537. [06-Oct-19 01:48 PM] sei#0242
  1538. I'm thinking Cramer might be a good target since I suspect him and mieranda may be Freemason
  1539.  
  1540. [06-Oct-19 01:49 PM] sei#0242
  1541. Sparty May also be a good target just because he can be a bit of a loose cannon and also has it out for E
  1542.  
  1543. [06-Oct-19 01:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1544. I'm worried about E cause he's generally smart, but at the same time he does a good job of making himself look like scum.
  1545.  
  1546. [06-Oct-19 01:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1547. Cramerr might not be a bad target tbh.
  1548.  
  1549. [06-Oct-19 02:07 PM] sei#0242
  1550. I'm good with Cramer
  1551.  
  1552. [06-Oct-19 02:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1553. Lets wait for E to catch up.
  1554.  
  1555. [06-Oct-19 02:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1556. And we also need to discuss who is doing it and if we are doing anything else.
  1557.  
  1558. [06-Oct-19 02:08 PM] sei#0242
  1559. And then depending on what else happens during the night, I think we can try to throw suspicion on Sparty or Lethor/Scan and try to get one of them lynched
  1560.  
  1561. [06-Oct-19 02:08 PM] sei#0242
  1562. Sounds good. I think we just ignore our other night actions for now and send you or me to do the kill
  1563.  
  1564. [06-Oct-19 02:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1565. Are we sure we want to throw around suspicion?
  1566.  
  1567. [06-Oct-19 02:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1568. Or just let everyone else do that for us?
  1569.  
  1570. [06-Oct-19 02:11 PM] sei#0242
  1571. I mean, that's how I usually play town
  1572.  
  1573. [06-Oct-19 02:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1574. Ok
  1575.  
  1576. [06-Oct-19 02:12 PM] sei#0242
  1577. I would call out that Scan/Lethor votes immediately together and Sparty was also being very aggressive. So one of those 3 may be mafia
  1578.  
  1579. [06-Oct-19 02:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1580. Just remember that anyone we call out, that doesn't end up getting killed becomes town if you die.
  1581.  
  1582. [06-Oct-19 02:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1583. Like if you call out those people right.
  1584.  
  1585. [06-Oct-19 02:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1586. Then you die in the night and they find out your scum.
  1587.  
  1588. [06-Oct-19 02:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1589. It's extremely likely anyone you called out is town.
  1590.  
  1591. [06-Oct-19 02:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1592. So we just need to be careful with that.
  1593.  
  1594. [06-Oct-19 02:37 PM] Zarania#5789
  1595. For clarity Cloudes the letter you send will be formatted like this to the receiving player
  1596. "You have received a letter over night. Here is the contents:
  1597. MESSAGE"
  1598.  
  1599. There is nothing saying it is from you
  1600.  
  1601. [06-Oct-19 02:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1602. Ok thnx.
  1603.  
  1604. [06-Oct-19 02:38 PM] Zarania#5789
  1605. I'd prefer that it was able to be copy pasted in one message so no novels or entire Shrek script please
  1606.  
  1607. [06-Oct-19 02:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1608. LMAO
  1609.  
  1610. [06-Oct-19 05:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1611. hahaha, nice send off on Ice, Zar. I do hate that a meme vote happened though. Poor Ice.
  1612.  
  1613. [06-Oct-19 05:51 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1614. Sparty's throwing suspicion on Rawk could be bait, or he could genuinely be after him.
  1615.  
  1616. [06-Oct-19 05:51 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1617. I'd prefer that we don't kill Sparty right off, game is much more fun with him alive
  1618.  
  1619. [06-Oct-19 05:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1620. So who are you thinking?
  1621.  
  1622. [06-Oct-19 05:59 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1623. I have no idea yet. Rereading the thread. There's the spot on page 3 near the bottom where Sparty votes for Ice, he says he's a Townie reporting in. The next post is Swolf asking why he'd say he's a *normal* townie, and that mafia could now insta gib him night one. Sparty only replies "cool"
  1624.  
  1625. [06-Oct-19 06:00 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1626. except Sparty never said he's a normal townie, only that he's townie
  1627.  
  1628. [06-Oct-19 06:00 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1629. I've a concern that Sparty is setting himself up to be attacked, but I only consider it because of Swolf highlighting it.
  1630.  
  1631. [06-Oct-19 06:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1632. I don't think Sparty now.
  1633.  
  1634. [06-Oct-19 06:02 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1635. I think Sparty is going to come off suspicious to others, same with El.
  1636.  
  1637. [06-Oct-19 06:02 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1638. Scan noted it too
  1639.  
  1640. [06-Oct-19 06:02 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1641. so if Scan noted it, others will think it also, and believe Sparty is town
  1642.  
  1643. [06-Oct-19 06:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1644. then again, people have the memories of goldfish, and will more likely remember how hard he pushed to get Ice lynched.
  1645.  
  1646. [06-Oct-19 06:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1647. I see nothing in the thread to tell us anything about who to target. We didn't make any enemies or draw suspicion to base our strategy on, best play imo would be to take out someone that was actively agreeing with us to throw people in the other direction
  1648.  
  1649. [06-Oct-19 06:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1650. My nominations would be Cramer or Lethor
  1651.  
  1652. [06-Oct-19 06:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1653. Ok well it seems we all agree with Cramer then.
  1654.  
  1655. [06-Oct-19 06:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1656. And who should do the killing?
  1657.  
  1658. [06-Oct-19 06:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1659. one of you! I don wanna die
  1660.  
  1661. [06-Oct-19 06:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1662. Lmao
  1663.  
  1664. [06-Oct-19 06:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1665. Wow!
  1666.  
  1667. [06-Oct-19 06:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1668. hahaha
  1669.  
  1670. [06-Oct-19 06:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1671. I have the radiiioooo
  1672.  
  1673. [06-Oct-19 06:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1674. Yeah I know.
  1675.  
  1676. [06-Oct-19 06:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1677. Once Illi is back I'll discuss with him who will do it.
  1678.  
  1679. [06-Oct-19 06:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1680. and the thing about being worried about me, if Sparty gains traction on me, abandon ship, throw votes on me.
  1681.  
  1682. [06-Oct-19 06:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1683. Well this is why would could try and take sparty out earlier.
  1684.  
  1685. [06-Oct-19 06:38 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1686. yeah, but if we manage to confuse Sparty, he'll take out a bunch of town before he gets squared
  1687.  
  1688. [06-Oct-19 06:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1689. it's as fine of a line as keeping either of you alive honestly. If you were town I mean.
  1690.  
  1691. [06-Oct-19 06:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1692. once day is up, I'm gonna fuss first thing about meme voting
  1693.  
  1694. [06-Oct-19 06:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1695. also, more seriously, how important is it for day talking anyway? The two of you are currently very well situated as far as looking town
  1696.  
  1697. [06-Oct-19 06:44 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1698. I mean, if you'd prefer I do the kill, that's fine. I'm just saying there might be more value in the two of you being alive than me
  1699.  
  1700. [06-Oct-19 06:44 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1701. Nah your power is too good to lose
  1702.  
  1703. [06-Oct-19 06:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1704. Once there are two of us left.
  1705.  
  1706. [06-Oct-19 06:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1707. I think you should do the killing though.
  1708.  
  1709. [06-Oct-19 06:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1710. CAuse whoever dies at that point the radio doesnt do anything lol
  1711.  
  1712. [06-Oct-19 06:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1713. right lol
  1714.  
  1715. [06-Oct-19 09:14 PM] sei#0242
  1716. I'm good with Cramer
  1717.  
  1718. [06-Oct-19 09:15 PM] sei#0242
  1719. Maybe Cloudes do the killing? I feel like you weren't overly active during the day, so wouldn't draw too much attention tonight
  1720.  
  1721. [06-Oct-19 09:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1722. For some reason I feel like I'
  1723.  
  1724. [06-Oct-19 09:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1725. i'm going to get investigated.
  1726.  
  1727. [06-Oct-19 09:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1728. But I'll do it.
  1729.  
  1730. [06-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1731. here's hoping we're all alive in the morning lol
  1732.  
  1733. [06-Oct-19 09:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1734. cause you know there's gonna be some more killin besides us
  1735.  
  1736. [06-Oct-19 09:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1737. Maybe.
  1738.  
  1739. [06-Oct-19 09:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1740. I feel like town wouldn't kill 1st night.
  1741.  
  1742. [06-Oct-19 09:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1743. That seems really risk.
  1744.  
  1745. [06-Oct-19 09:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1746. Maybe accidental kills.
  1747.  
  1748. [06-Oct-19 09:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1749. I didn't try to as soldier, but it could happen by accident in this game
  1750.  
  1751. [06-Oct-19 09:17 PM] sei#0242
  1752. Vigilante killing would be stupid
  1753.  
  1754. [06-Oct-19 09:17 PM] sei#0242
  1755. Too high of a chance to kill someone and lose yourself and the wrong person
  1756.  
  1757. [06-Oct-19 09:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1758. So you think I'm the least likely to get investigated tonight?
  1759.  
  1760. [06-Oct-19 09:18 PM] sei#0242
  1761. I bet at some point the vet will kill someone, if there is one in the game.
  1762.  
  1763. [06-Oct-19 09:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1764. I guess the only thing to be worried about is tracker.
  1765.  
  1766. [06-Oct-19 09:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1767. Right?
  1768.  
  1769. [06-Oct-19 09:18 PM] sei#0242
  1770. Idk. I think with so many roles it's hard to say
  1771.  
  1772. [06-Oct-19 09:18 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1773. just hope Tzo doesn't have one of those roles >.>
  1774.  
  1775. [06-Oct-19 09:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1776. I guess Tracker and Follower.
  1777.  
  1778. [06-Oct-19 09:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1779. Although it's easier to BS if it's Tracker.
  1780.  
  1781. [06-Oct-19 09:19 PM] sei#0242
  1782. If you were town, who would you track/follow?
  1783.  
  1784. [06-Oct-19 09:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1785. Sparty lmao
  1786.  
  1787. [06-Oct-19 09:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1788. one of the heavy hitters. One of you two, Sparty
  1789.  
  1790. [06-Oct-19 09:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1791. Well that's not helpful!
  1792.  
  1793. [06-Oct-19 09:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1794. E go kill people.
  1795.  
  1796. [06-Oct-19 09:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1797. hahaha
  1798.  
  1799. [06-Oct-19 09:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1800. Ok
  1801.  
  1802. [06-Oct-19 09:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1803. I'll be brave.
  1804.  
  1805. [06-Oct-19 09:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1806. And do it.
  1807.  
  1808. [06-Oct-19 09:21 PM] sei#0242
  1809. How many days total do we have?
  1810.  
  1811. [06-Oct-19 09:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1812. Btw for the purposes of not leading anyone on our trail, whoever does the killing cannot defend/support the other two.
  1813.  
  1814. [06-Oct-19 09:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1815. If that makes sense.
  1816.  
  1817. [06-Oct-19 09:22 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1818. yep
  1819.  
  1820. [06-Oct-19 09:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1821. Cause if they investigate me and learn they can draw connections.
  1822.  
  1823. [06-Oct-19 09:23 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1824. apparently people already think I usually have a power role. My role luck is handicapping me now
  1825.  
  1826. [06-Oct-19 09:51 PM] sei#0242
  1827. So should we ping Zar and get the night action in?
  1828.  
  1829. [06-Oct-19 09:52 PM] Zarania#5789
  1830. Once you're ready just lmk it
  1831.  
  1832. [06-Oct-19 10:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1833. Ok
  1834.  
  1835. [06-Oct-19 10:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1836. @Zarania I'll destroy Cramerr tonight. No other night actions.
  1837.  
  1838. [06-Oct-19 11:02 PM] Zarania#5789
  1839. Confirmed
  1840.  
  1841. [07-Oct-19 12:31 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1842. If I die tonight, it was nice fighting with you all.
  1843.  
  1844. [07-Oct-19 10:15 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  1845. I see we're not the hold up!
  1846.  
  1847. [07-Oct-19 10:19 AM] sei#0242
  1848. There are probably so many night actions lol
  1849.  
  1850. [07-Oct-19 10:20 AM] sei#0242
  1851. and some ppl probably tuned out the game by now with how slow it was moving
  1852.  
  1853. [07-Oct-19 10:34 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1854. I imagine sometime today it will be back up.
  1855.  
  1856. [07-Oct-19 04:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1857. amg, we got a freemason
  1858.  
  1859. [07-Oct-19 04:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1860. So uh
  1861.  
  1862. [07-Oct-19 04:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1863. I got a letter last night.
  1864.  
  1865. [07-Oct-19 04:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1866. ``Was a pretty stupid play to meme vote Ice, but it's understandable as he's awful. I would have preferred to meme vote Rawk. I think he's "talk less strat" was to deflect from being scum yet again. Can never go wrong with killing Rawk though or Sparty for that matter. Good luck young Cloudes! Lethorr Signing off!``
  1867.  
  1868. [07-Oct-19 04:12 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1869. oh heck yeah
  1870.  
  1871. [07-Oct-19 04:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1872. well. Assuming the sig isn't misleading
  1873.  
  1874. [07-Oct-19 04:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1875. Yeah...
  1876.  
  1877. [07-Oct-19 04:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1878. Regardless it seems like someone trusts me? Which I guess is good.
  1879.  
  1880. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1881. Also the Freemason kill is HUGE imo.
  1882.  
  1883. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1884. pretty big stroke of luck
  1885.  
  1886. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1887. Because now they can never confirm.
  1888.  
  1889. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1890. Unless there is 1 more.
  1891.  
  1892. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1893. Well 2 more
  1894.  
  1895. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1896. Wait each lodge has 2 members.
  1897.  
  1898. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1899. unless Eli makes the other one claim so the town can trust
  1900.  
  1901. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1902. lol
  1903.  
  1904. [07-Oct-19 04:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1905. So it's always groups of two.
  1906.  
  1907. [07-Oct-19 04:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1908. But if there is nothing to confirm it one could play it off as something scum would do.
  1909.  
  1910. [07-Oct-19 04:15 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1911. except a mason wouldn't have a gun, right?
  1912.  
  1913. [07-Oct-19 04:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1914. Yeah, but what I mean is with the other half dead role claiming it becomes less reliable.
  1915.  
  1916. [07-Oct-19 04:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1917. Because if they did, there's two people right there town don't really need to worry about for a little bit.
  1918.  
  1919. [07-Oct-19 04:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1920. no, I understand that. I mean, if they've a mind to investigate anyone claiming it
  1921.  
  1922. [07-Oct-19 04:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1923. Yeah exactly.
  1924.  
  1925. [07-Oct-19 04:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1926. I'm not going to claim it.
  1927.  
  1928. [07-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1929. would be a last ditch play, late game
  1930.  
  1931. [07-Oct-19 04:18 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1932. I like that Rawk looks suspect as the hammer
  1933.  
  1934. [07-Oct-19 04:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1935. Same
  1936.  
  1937. [07-Oct-19 04:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1938. Love it.
  1939.  
  1940. [07-Oct-19 04:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1941. And based off that letter seems like other people suspect Sparty/Rawk
  1942.  
  1943. [07-Oct-19 04:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1944. Which is great for us.
  1945.  
  1946. [07-Oct-19 04:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1947. If we live with all of us alive going into tonight I think we are in a good position.
  1948.  
  1949. [07-Oct-19 04:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1950. I think the only thing that would stop that is an investigation on me last night.
  1951.  
  1952. [07-Oct-19 04:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1953. Or I guess on you.
  1954.  
  1955. [07-Oct-19 04:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1956. right, since we have no idea who was looked at
  1957.  
  1958. [07-Oct-19 04:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1959. Basically we just need to try our best to not link any of us together.
  1960.  
  1961. [07-Oct-19 04:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1962. And E maybe try not to direct suspicion onto anyway as your role is the only one that 100% confirms scum, if they got really lucky.
  1963.  
  1964. [07-Oct-19 04:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1965. If the sig is fake on the letter, and we kill Lethor, someone might put that together. I was thinking at least we know he's not the War Vet, but if the sig is fake, then it means nothing lol
  1966.  
  1967. [07-Oct-19 04:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1968. Yeah no way I'm going after Lethor haha.
  1969.  
  1970. [07-Oct-19 04:24 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1971. I think
  1972.  
  1973. [07-Oct-19 04:24 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1974. It's Mieranda.
  1975.  
  1976. [07-Oct-19 04:24 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  1977. I think you were right on that.
  1978.  
  1979. [07-Oct-19 04:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1980. Zar, we're not speculating wildly, right? The sig on the letter can be an intentional lie?
  1981.  
  1982. [07-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1983. oh, it's mailman and not friendly neighbor
  1984.  
  1985. [07-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1986. I see
  1987.  
  1988. [07-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Zarania#5789
  1989. The message such as this is exactly as Cloudes can send. It is not from a Friendly Neighbor (I'd confirm that directly) which means that it has to be a mailman
  1990.  
  1991. [07-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Zarania#5789
  1992. They send me a message, I copy it directly to them
  1993.  
  1994. [07-Oct-19 04:26 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  1995. I got it, went back and reread the roles
  1996.  
  1997. [07-Oct-19 04:27 PM] Zarania#5789
  1998. 👍
  1999.  
  2000. [07-Oct-19 04:27 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2001. too bad I don't know Lethor well enough to know if that's how he'd phrase or not lol
  2002.  
  2003. [07-Oct-19 04:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2004. Honestly I doubt it's from Lethor.
  2005.  
  2006. [07-Oct-19 04:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2007. For some reason.
  2008.  
  2009. [07-Oct-19 04:28 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2010. Has Lethor said anything about meme voting at all?
  2011.  
  2012. [07-Oct-19 04:29 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2013. I mean, he meme voted page 1
  2014.  
  2015. [07-Oct-19 04:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2016. Lethor has said almost nothing.
  2017.  
  2018. [07-Oct-19 04:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2019. Who else would want to kill Sparty.
  2020.  
  2021. [07-Oct-19 04:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2022. Lethor has a few posts, one saying there's no reasoning behind his Ice vote, one saying 'that's what someone headed to the gallows would say' to Ice. I don't feel like he'd be saying that about the meme vote.
  2023.  
  2024. [07-Oct-19 04:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2025. who the heck would call you young Cloudes
  2026.  
  2027. [07-Oct-19 04:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2028. and the answer to killing Sparty... everyone
  2029.  
  2030. [07-Oct-19 04:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2031. it's too bad we don't know who the War Vet is and lead them to being investigated by several roles at once.
  2032.  
  2033. [07-Oct-19 04:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2034. People call me young but I'm 26 I'm always so confused.
  2035.  
  2036. [07-Oct-19 04:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2037. I felt young when I was 15 playing WoW.
  2038.  
  2039. [07-Oct-19 04:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2040. yeah, but is that something you're commonly called here? within the raid team?
  2041.  
  2042. [07-Oct-19 04:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2043. Raid team yes.
  2044.  
  2045. [07-Oct-19 04:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2046. It was a meme.
  2047.  
  2048. [07-Oct-19 04:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2049. soo.. could be Lethor then?
  2050.  
  2051. [07-Oct-19 04:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2052. So it had to be someone who was around when I raided.
  2053.  
  2054. [07-Oct-19 04:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2055. Or it wouldn't make sense.
  2056.  
  2057. [07-Oct-19 04:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2058. Elieae, Lethor, Scandraya, Sparty, Swolfi
  2059.  
  2060. [07-Oct-19 04:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2061. Has to be one of those.
  2062.  
  2063. [07-Oct-19 04:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2064. But it's unlikely that it's Sparty.
  2065.  
  2066. [07-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2067. it actually sounds more like Scan to me lol
  2068.  
  2069. [07-Oct-19 04:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2070. I thought Scan
  2071.  
  2072. [07-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2073. ugh, I just don't know now.
  2074.  
  2075. [07-Oct-19 04:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2076. But Scan participated in the meme vote.
  2077.  
  2078. [07-Oct-19 04:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2079. HOWEVER
  2080.  
  2081. [07-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2082. so did Lethor!
  2083.  
  2084. [07-Oct-19 04:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2085. Something that Scan would say is he wants to kill Rawk more.
  2086.  
  2087. [07-Oct-19 04:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2088. yeah, that's why I thought Scan
  2089.  
  2090. [07-Oct-19 04:48 PM] sei#0242
  2091. Ey, I was right about Cramer being freemason
  2092.  
  2093. [07-Oct-19 04:49 PM] sei#0242
  2094. Seems likely that Mieranda is the other then
  2095.  
  2096. [07-Oct-19 04:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2097. Mieranda saying "potentially" is what makes me think it.
  2098.  
  2099. [07-Oct-19 04:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2100. Because it's not potentially, it's yes 100% there is another one.
  2101.  
  2102. [07-Oct-19 04:50 PM] sei#0242
  2103. yeah, it was pretty obvious from day 1 based on how they were talking. That post all but confirms it
  2104.  
  2105. [07-Oct-19 04:51 PM] sei#0242
  2106. I'm good with starting to throw some suspicion on Sparty. Especially since it seems like we have "Lethor" on board
  2107.  
  2108. [07-Oct-19 04:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2109. "Lethor"
  2110.  
  2111. [07-Oct-19 04:51 PM] sei#0242
  2112. that sounds so much like scan lol
  2113.  
  2114. [07-Oct-19 04:51 PM] sei#0242
  2115. Lethor would never say "Lethor signing off"
  2116.  
  2117. [07-Oct-19 04:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2118. I could totally believe it's Scan.
  2119.  
  2120. [07-Oct-19 04:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2121. Wait wtf is Scan saying?
  2122.  
  2123. [07-Oct-19 04:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2124. Is he trying to confirm Eli is scum or something?
  2125.  
  2126. [07-Oct-19 05:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2127. Ok, I have a plan. I'm going to pretend to be on Eli's side.
  2128.  
  2129. [07-Oct-19 05:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2130. So even if I did get unlucky investigated, they may think he is also scum.
  2131.  
  2132. [07-Oct-19 05:01 PM] sei#0242
  2133. I like it
  2134.  
  2135. [07-Oct-19 05:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2136. I feel like the smartest move for the town would be lynching anyone who has a gun, unless there is better evidence.
  2137.  
  2138. [07-Oct-19 05:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2139. But don't tell them that.
  2140.  
  2141. [07-Oct-19 05:13 PM] sei#0242
  2142. Yeah, I won't lol
  2143.  
  2144. [07-Oct-19 05:14 PM] sei#0242
  2145. I'm curious to see who offers up investigation information
  2146.  
  2147. [07-Oct-19 05:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2148. I think the best play at the moment is to just let everyone else direct suspicion because none of it is on us atm.
  2149.  
  2150. [07-Oct-19 05:30 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2151. ``Scan might be trying to work me up like eloriyas did a couple games ago when she was mafia so I’m not taking the bait.`` LMFAO
  2152.  
  2153. [07-Oct-19 06:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2154. Tzo claimed the other half.
  2155.  
  2156. [07-Oct-19 06:46 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2157. lmao omg
  2158.  
  2159. [07-Oct-19 06:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2160. yeah, he's claiming other half. If I were town, I might be a lil sus of it, but not a lot I think? Too easy to confirm on investigate.
  2161.  
  2162. [07-Oct-19 06:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2163. THROW HIM UNDER THE BUS!
  2164.  
  2165. [07-Oct-19 07:03 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2166. I wonder how many of the invest type roles will look at Tzo now
  2167.  
  2168. [07-Oct-19 07:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2169. Hopefully some of them.
  2170.  
  2171. [07-Oct-19 07:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2172. A few people still haven't commented at all on the new day.
  2173.  
  2174. [07-Oct-19 07:52 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2175. I think we maybe just kill Eli next.
  2176.  
  2177. [07-Oct-19 07:58 PM] sei#0242
  2178. @Zarania can Freemason talk during day phase?
  2179.  
  2180. [07-Oct-19 07:58 PM] Zarania#5789
  2181. No.
  2182.  
  2183. [07-Oct-19 07:58 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2184. Wait
  2185.  
  2186. [07-Oct-19 07:58 PM] Zarania#5789
  2187. `As members of the stonecutter brotherhood you have a Lodge you stay in at night where you can chat with other Freemasons. Each lodge has 2 members.`
  2188.  
  2189. [07-Oct-19 07:58 PM] sei#0242
  2190. Ah, I completely missed that part of the description lol
  2191.  
  2192. [07-Oct-19 07:59 PM] sei#0242
  2193. Well. So much for my Freemason theory. Good thing we lucked out and still got him
  2194.  
  2195. [07-Oct-19 08:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2196. I totally thought they could talk in the day.
  2197.  
  2198. [07-Oct-19 08:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2199. This makes sense though.
  2200.  
  2201. [07-Oct-19 08:01 PM] Zarania#5789
  2202. I noticed you all thought that and I was laughing to myself about it.
  2203.  
  2204. [07-Oct-19 08:02 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2205. Damnit Zar!
  2206.  
  2207. [07-Oct-19 08:02 PM] Zarania#5789
  2208. Gotta read that rules post carefully!
  2209.  
  2210. [07-Oct-19 08:14 PM] sei#0242
  2211. Or we can just ping you when we want to know something 😈
  2212.  
  2213. [07-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2214. haha, oh man, I didn't think that because I went and read the role!
  2215.  
  2216. [07-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2217. I have the first page open so I don't have to refresh the thread and show up as checking it
  2218.  
  2219. [07-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Zarania#5789
  2220. Yeah, but I answer only what's asked and don't clear up things you think that are wrong unless I worded it badly
  2221.  
  2222. [07-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2223. lol, looks like I got myself firmly on the other side of you guys with my theory on the Freemason being investigated
  2224.  
  2225. [07-Oct-19 08:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2226. hopefully I put the seed into someone's head that I might have an invest role
  2227.  
  2228. [07-Oct-19 08:28 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2229. Rawk going to be infamous for not reading the roles and putting wrong names in. lol
  2230.  
  2231. [07-Oct-19 08:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2232. It was too good, I had to.
  2233.  
  2234. [07-Oct-19 08:30 PM] Zarania#5789
  2235. He's actually not wrong to be fair. See my post.
  2236.  
  2237. [07-Oct-19 08:30 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2238. I see it, but it looks more like you're making fun lol
  2239.  
  2240. [07-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Zarania#5789
  2241. I edited to add "but not incorrect"
  2242.  
  2243. [07-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2244. I wanna do a 'don't tell him! an early invest reveal almost cost us the game last time!' thoughts?
  2245.  
  2246. [07-Oct-19 10:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2247. I'm not sure if I would have asked what Illi asked.
  2248.  
  2249. [07-Oct-19 10:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2250. But I think it's a good play on it E.
  2251.  
  2252. [07-Oct-19 10:45 PM] sei#0242
  2253. It's how I play town
  2254.  
  2255. [07-Oct-19 10:45 PM] sei#0242
  2256. I just try to get as much info out into the open as possible
  2257.  
  2258. [07-Oct-19 10:46 PM] sei#0242
  2259. No one else is saying anything lol
  2260.  
  2261. [07-Oct-19 10:46 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2262. Yeah this game is so quiet.
  2263.  
  2264. [07-Oct-19 10:46 PM] sei#0242
  2265. If there was more going on, I'd probably try to lay low. But I want to at least have some discussion going
  2266.  
  2267. [07-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2268. I'm gonna be backed off tomorrow, since I'll be at work
  2269.  
  2270. [07-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2271. pretty sure I've posted more this game already than last game
  2272.  
  2273. [07-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2274. I need to tone down
  2275.  
  2276. [07-Oct-19 10:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2277. Are you going to say something to Illi?
  2278.  
  2279. [07-Oct-19 10:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2280. You have E.
  2281.  
  2282. [07-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2283. yeah I did
  2284.  
  2285. [07-Oct-19 10:48 PM] sei#0242
  2286. I think something like, "what else do we have to go on if we don't get any info? We need to figure out who to vote somehow"
  2287.  
  2288. [07-Oct-19 10:48 PM] sei#0242
  2289. Maybe point out vote patterns from day 1?
  2290.  
  2291. [07-Oct-19 10:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2292. always a sound play, and expected from you two
  2293.  
  2294. [07-Oct-19 10:48 PM] sei#0242
  2295. What would be the best analysis of voting patterns from our perspective?
  2296.  
  2297. [07-Oct-19 10:49 PM] sei#0242
  2298. Try to group lethor and scan together?
  2299.  
  2300. [07-Oct-19 10:49 PM] sei#0242
  2301. Or point out Sparty?
  2302.  
  2303. [07-Oct-19 10:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2304. I think for this days vote, either you or E should vote, and I shouldn't.
  2305.  
  2306. [07-Oct-19 10:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2307. anyone that rode the meme vote hard is fair game imo
  2308.  
  2309. [07-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2310. I can even take the 'down with the meme voters' stance
  2311.  
  2312. [07-Oct-19 10:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2313. The only thing is I'm wondering if people got information and are laying low.
  2314.  
  2315. [07-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2316. that's possible
  2317.  
  2318. [07-Oct-19 10:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2319. To see who points fingers.
  2320.  
  2321. [07-Oct-19 10:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2322. That's what I do with investigation.
  2323.  
  2324. [07-Oct-19 10:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2325. And it's how I figured out 3/4 scum on Day 2 in that one game.
  2326.  
  2327. [07-Oct-19 10:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2328. So maybe we slow play this.
  2329.  
  2330. [07-Oct-19 10:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2331. I agree with that. I do think a vote pattern post would be fairly harmless if you word it carefully
  2332.  
  2333. [07-Oct-19 10:52 PM] sei#0242
  2334. I did lol
  2335.  
  2336. [07-Oct-19 10:52 PM] sei#0242
  2337. idk about carefully though
  2338.  
  2339. [07-Oct-19 10:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2340. Nvm Illi pointed fingers!
  2341.  
  2342. [07-Oct-19 10:53 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2343. well, it is pretty broad
  2344.  
  2345. [07-Oct-19 10:53 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2346. spread over several people
  2347.  
  2348. [07-Oct-19 10:53 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2349. and not out of character for Illi
  2350.  
  2351. [07-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2352. but we are the 3 most active right now too lol
  2353.  
  2354. [07-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2355. so yeah, I ain't sayin shite tomorrow unless someone calls me out lol
  2356.  
  2357. [07-Oct-19 10:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2358. It's relatively safe though as long as you didn't do any night action.
  2359.  
  2360. [07-Oct-19 10:55 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2361. If I were town, I'd actually assume one of you were War Vet, since you're super pro town
  2362.  
  2363. [07-Oct-19 11:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2364. Wait
  2365.  
  2366. [07-Oct-19 11:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2367. Those are the two people.
  2368.  
  2369. [07-Oct-19 11:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2370. Who were mentioned in theletter.
  2371.  
  2372. [07-Oct-19 11:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2373. Erm
  2374.  
  2375. [07-Oct-19 11:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2376. I hope whoever sent that letter doesn't read into it.
  2377.  
  2378. [07-Oct-19 11:00 PM] sei#0242
  2379. Scan wasn't "in" the letter
  2380.  
  2381. [07-Oct-19 11:01 PM] sei#0242
  2382. we just have so far assumed that he wrote it
  2383.  
  2384. [07-Oct-19 11:01 PM] sei#0242
  2385. but it could've been lethor
  2386.  
  2387. [07-Oct-19 11:01 PM] sei#0242
  2388. He's actually been around longer than I realized and was definitely around for the young cloude memes
  2389.  
  2390. [07-Oct-19 11:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2391. Oh fuck Illi you accused so many people lol.
  2392.  
  2393. [07-Oct-19 11:01 PM] sei#0242
  2394. And they did vote within like 2min of them
  2395.  
  2396. [07-Oct-19 11:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2397. I think it just has to be you that doesn't kill till there is 1 left.
  2398.  
  2399. [07-Oct-19 11:01 PM] sei#0242
  2400. lol
  2401.  
  2402. [07-Oct-19 11:02 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2403. Cause if you get found out as scum that's 4 people I'd read into being town, if I was a town.
  2404.  
  2405. [07-Oct-19 11:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2406. Honestly I would have put my name in there for consistency purposes but that's ok.
  2407.  
  2408. [07-Oct-19 11:03 PM] sei#0242
  2409. you were just a middle vote
  2410.  
  2411. [07-Oct-19 11:03 PM] sei#0242
  2412. I didn't say tzo either
  2413.  
  2414. [07-Oct-19 11:05 PM] sei#0242
  2415. but yeah, that is a good point about me calling out 4 ppl that could all be assumed to be town if I'm found out to be scum
  2416.  
  2417. [07-Oct-19 11:05 PM] sei#0242
  2418. hopefully no one playing town atm is as smart as you 😉
  2419.  
  2420. [07-Oct-19 11:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2421. Without trying to sound arrogant, people tend not to follow/track things as much as I do.
  2422.  
  2423. [07-Oct-19 11:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2424. There are a few who do a good job of it, but a lot don't.
  2425.  
  2426. [07-Oct-19 11:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2427. Even when I spell it out for them in a post D:
  2428.  
  2429. [07-Oct-19 11:06 PM] sei#0242
  2430. lol
  2431.  
  2432. [07-Oct-19 11:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2433. Happened two games now.
  2434.  
  2435. [07-Oct-19 11:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2436. If you don't get found out till later, I'm sure everyone will forget.
  2437.  
  2438. [07-Oct-19 11:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2439. And we can take out the people early who do the critical thinking.
  2440.  
  2441. [07-Oct-19 11:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2442. Pretty sure El thinks we are all town.
  2443.  
  2444. [08-Oct-19 01:29 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2445. El is onto you Illi. Maybe say something that the game is moving slower so you can actually keep up to what's going on.
  2446.  
  2447. [08-Oct-19 01:30 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2448. Whereas the other game was 30 pages in two days.
  2449.  
  2450. [08-Oct-19 02:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2451. We may have to remove El from the game.
  2452.  
  2453. [08-Oct-19 02:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2454. I'm thinking about throwing some suspicion towards Sparty, but I'm not sure.
  2455.  
  2456. [08-Oct-19 03:06 PM] sei#0242
  2457. I don't think medic day one saves are relevant. It's basically random
  2458.  
  2459. [08-Oct-19 03:07 PM] sei#0242
  2460. I'm ok with Eli. Although he might be hinting for someone to protect him
  2461.  
  2462. [08-Oct-19 03:07 PM] sei#0242
  2463. If we can push a vote on Sparty and vote Eli I think we basically win the game at that point lol
  2464.  
  2465. [08-Oct-19 03:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2466. Yeah that's what I'm worried about.
  2467.  
  2468. [08-Oct-19 03:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2469. Think I should call out Sparty for being quiet today?
  2470.  
  2471. [08-Oct-19 03:08 PM] sei#0242
  2472. Sure
  2473.  
  2474. [08-Oct-19 03:08 PM] sei#0242
  2475. Only vote so far is on Lethor, we can move it to Sparty without much vote inertia
  2476.  
  2477. [08-Oct-19 03:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2478. Removing Eli abruptly could give credit to his viewpoint too. I'll catch up in a few hours
  2479.  
  2480. [08-Oct-19 03:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2481. Do you guys have any thoughts on me revealing the letter to the thread? Is there anything to be gained from it?
  2482.  
  2483. [08-Oct-19 03:28 PM] sei#0242
  2484. It could be interesting
  2485.  
  2486. [08-Oct-19 03:29 PM] sei#0242
  2487. maybe say you got a letter, but not who sent it?
  2488.  
  2489. [08-Oct-19 03:29 PM] sei#0242
  2490. see if anyone speaks up
  2491.  
  2492. [08-Oct-19 03:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2493. Also E I was thinking, one of us could try in spin it in a "that's exactly what Mafia may want us to think" kind of way if we kill Eli and someone brings it up.
  2494.  
  2495. [08-Oct-19 04:27 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2496. Oh no a meme vote D:
  2497.  
  2498. [08-Oct-19 04:36 PM] sei#0242
  2499. lol
  2500.  
  2501. [08-Oct-19 04:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2502. Just hope this one doesn't gain traction.
  2503.  
  2504. [08-Oct-19 04:40 PM] sei#0242
  2505. would meme voting scan be too obvious?
  2506.  
  2507. [08-Oct-19 04:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2508. It doesn't necessarily have to be a meme. One could try and use the angle that he's using "memes" to hide his true intentions.
  2509.  
  2510. [08-Oct-19 04:42 PM] sei#0242
  2511. I am simply voting due to somebody messing up the guild bank and not taking responsibility for it....
  2512. And for meme voting early twice in a row
  2513. Vote: Scan
  2514.  
  2515. [08-Oct-19 04:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2516. Mmmm
  2517.  
  2518. [08-Oct-19 04:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2519. I'm not sure.
  2520.  
  2521. [08-Oct-19 04:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2522. I'm generally against one of you trying to defend me.
  2523.  
  2524. [08-Oct-19 08:57 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2525. Zero steam on that meme vote from Scan. It's nothing to worry over
  2526.  
  2527. [08-Oct-19 11:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2528. Is today really going to be a no lynch though?
  2529.  
  2530. [08-Oct-19 11:52 PM] sei#0242
  2531. We have until Thursday at 8est
  2532.  
  2533. [08-Oct-19 11:52 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2534. It's just so unusually quiet.
  2535.  
  2536. [09-Oct-19 11:22 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  2537. I'm a patient soul, but this game! No one is willing to risk their role!
  2538.  
  2539. [09-Oct-19 11:23 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2540. No ones doing anything lol
  2541.  
  2542. [09-Oct-19 11:23 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2543. Me and Illi who are scum have been most active and most pro town.
  2544.  
  2545. [09-Oct-19 11:23 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2546. It's so weird.
  2547.  
  2548. [09-Oct-19 11:24 AM] sei#0242
  2549. Maybe bring up that you got a letter?
  2550.  
  2551. [09-Oct-19 11:24 AM] sei#0242
  2552. idk what else to do to stir discussion
  2553.  
  2554. [09-Oct-19 11:24 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  2555. It's almost like there's a bunch of freemasons or something chatting it up somewhere else.
  2556.  
  2557. [09-Oct-19 11:24 AM] sei#0242
  2558. without us claiming something that could easily be proven false
  2559.  
  2560. [09-Oct-19 11:25 AM] sei#0242
  2561. well apparently freemasons can't talk during the day
  2562.  
  2563. [09-Oct-19 11:25 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  2564. Right
  2565.  
  2566. [09-Oct-19 11:25 AM] sei#0242
  2567. so ppl just aren't talking at all lol
  2568.  
  2569. [09-Oct-19 11:29 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2570. Yeah this game is just odd.
  2571.  
  2572. [09-Oct-19 11:59 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2573. Sparty starting a vote on Swolf.
  2574.  
  2575. [09-Oct-19 11:59 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2576. I think one of you should hop on that now.
  2577.  
  2578. [09-Oct-19 12:00 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2579. He could be baiting!
  2580.  
  2581. [09-Oct-19 12:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2582. To what, just flip it onto whoever helps the vote?
  2583.  
  2584. [09-Oct-19 12:00 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2585. To see who hops on it quickly
  2586.  
  2587. [09-Oct-19 12:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2588. Do Scum usually hop on it quickly?
  2589.  
  2590. [09-Oct-19 12:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2591. Then again, it is a decent reason
  2592.  
  2593. [09-Oct-19 12:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2594. There is legit nothing else to go on really.
  2595.  
  2596. [09-Oct-19 12:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2597. If you're town.
  2598.  
  2599. [09-Oct-19 12:02 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2600. Except vote quiet ones.
  2601.  
  2602. [09-Oct-19 12:02 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2603. Agreed
  2604.  
  2605. [09-Oct-19 12:02 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2606. I'll hop on
  2607.  
  2608. [09-Oct-19 12:02 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2609. I'm probably going to abstain from this vote as I voted yesterday.
  2610.  
  2611. [09-Oct-19 12:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2612. Is this going to make Sparty suspicious of you though?
  2613.  
  2614. [09-Oct-19 12:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2615. Oh probably. I get that if I breathe though.
  2616.  
  2617. [09-Oct-19 12:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2618. Lmao
  2619.  
  2620. [09-Oct-19 12:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2621. Alive? Suspicious!
  2622.  
  2623. [09-Oct-19 12:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2624.  
  2625.  
  2626. {Attachments}
  2627. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/631528657772478464/9LXLBaw.png
  2628.  
  2629. [09-Oct-19 01:00 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2630. Uh oh >.>
  2631.  
  2632. {Attachments}
  2633. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/631536477624598578/Capture_2019-10-09-11-59-30-1.png
  2634.  
  2635. [09-Oct-19 01:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2636. Why is he talking to you.
  2637.  
  2638. [09-Oct-19 01:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2639. That's against the rules!
  2640.  
  2641. [09-Oct-19 01:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2642. Oh he taunts me. We don't discuss
  2643.  
  2644. [09-Oct-19 01:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2645. Like, 'kill someone already' and stuff.
  2646.  
  2647. [09-Oct-19 01:02 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2648. Aeylid if you want to talk to people in the game, start playing the game!
  2649.  
  2650. [09-Oct-19 01:02 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2651. Hahaha
  2652.  
  2653. [09-Oct-19 01:21 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2654. Too bad Eli isn't stirred up on someone :)
  2655.  
  2656. [09-Oct-19 01:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2657. Lmao
  2658.  
  2659. [09-Oct-19 01:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2660. Yeah apparently he decided to not get so heated haha.
  2661.  
  2662. [09-Oct-19 01:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2663. That's not how odds work.
  2664.  
  2665. [09-Oct-19 01:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2666. >.>
  2667.  
  2668. [09-Oct-19 01:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2669. Well yes and no, his chance of being scum doesn't go down simply because he was scum last game.
  2670.  
  2671. [09-Oct-19 01:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2672. However it's not probable for it to happen so many times.
  2673.  
  2674. [09-Oct-19 03:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2675. I'm hoping this doesn't start something on you E.
  2676.  
  2677. [09-Oct-19 03:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2678. Should just kill Eli tonight.
  2679.  
  2680. [09-Oct-19 04:19 PM] sei#0242
  2681. I'm hoping the vote on swolf goes through, we kill Eli, and then throw FoS onto sparty on the next day
  2682.  
  2683. [09-Oct-19 04:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2684. Same.
  2685.  
  2686. [09-Oct-19 04:19 PM] sei#0242
  2687. puts us in a really good spot
  2688.  
  2689. [09-Oct-19 04:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2690. Illi did you vote out last day?
  2691.  
  2692. [09-Oct-19 04:22 PM] sei#0242
  2693. nope
  2694.  
  2695. [09-Oct-19 04:22 PM] sei#0242
  2696. Rawk was the hammer
  2697.  
  2698. [09-Oct-19 04:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2699. You may be safe to put a vote on Swolf then
  2700.  
  2701. [09-Oct-19 04:22 PM] sei#0242
  2702. and I thought that there was still a vote to give
  2703.  
  2704. [09-Oct-19 04:22 PM] sei#0242
  2705. because of Eli's unvote not counting
  2706.  
  2707. [09-Oct-19 04:23 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2708. Yeah same
  2709.  
  2710. [09-Oct-19 04:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2711. Oh shit Illi going ham on everyone.
  2712.  
  2713. [09-Oct-19 04:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2714. oh
  2715.  
  2716. [09-Oct-19 04:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2717. I was constructing a post
  2718.  
  2719. [09-Oct-19 04:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2720. haha
  2721.  
  2722. [09-Oct-19 04:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2723. Does Illis post interfere with yours lol
  2724.  
  2725. [09-Oct-19 04:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2726. I don't think so
  2727.  
  2728. [09-Oct-19 04:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2729. I'm trying to confuse two ideas and be defensive about them. More like, confuse people as to who is saying what
  2730.  
  2731. [09-Oct-19 04:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2732. but I'm not sure if it would affect you too much in it
  2733.  
  2734. [09-Oct-19 04:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2735.  
  2736.  
  2737. {Attachments}
  2738. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/631591527474528297/mafia_preview.PNG
  2739.  
  2740. [09-Oct-19 04:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2741. There's definitely not bld protection, however I think Eli was just trying to say that based off of averages it is unlikely to get Mafia that many times.
  2742.  
  2743. [09-Oct-19 04:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2744. Which is correct.
  2745.  
  2746. [09-Oct-19 04:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2747. oh no, I'm not confused. I'm trying to be confusing
  2748.  
  2749. [09-Oct-19 04:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2750. However the odds are independent from each other.
  2751.  
  2752. [09-Oct-19 04:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2753. Yeah I know, I may post something like that.
  2754.  
  2755. [09-Oct-19 04:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2756. I added 'Eli' to the last line though, don't want to make it look like I'm accusing you of protecting Swolfi
  2757.  
  2758. [09-Oct-19 04:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2759. haven't posted, obviously. What do you think?
  2760.  
  2761. [09-Oct-19 04:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2762. Give me a sec.
  2763.  
  2764. [09-Oct-19 04:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2765. It is slightly defensive, I'm wondering how much people read into being defensive in this game.
  2766.  
  2767. [09-Oct-19 04:46 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2768. If I see someone being defensive I usually think they are hiding something.
  2769.  
  2770. [09-Oct-19 04:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2771. everyone is hiding something. a role! lol
  2772.  
  2773. [09-Oct-19 04:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2774. True.
  2775.  
  2776. [09-Oct-19 04:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2777. I think disagreeing with me is good though.
  2778.  
  2779. [09-Oct-19 04:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2780. hm, I dunno
  2781.  
  2782. [09-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2783. "Cloudes - I've done more than just respond. More than a little interesting for you to quote Eli and then pull suspicion onto me. Go back and read posts :p I asked if it would be a waste to investigate Tzo, and then disagreed with someone else's reasoning on it.
  2784.  
  2785. Eli - Why you protecting Swolfi so hard?"
  2786.  
  2787. [09-Oct-19 04:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2788. does that look better
  2789.  
  2790. [09-Oct-19 04:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2791. Yeah lets run with it.
  2792.  
  2793. [09-Oct-19 04:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2794. I think it's always dangerous attracting suspicion towards each other, but it's also fun. 😛
  2795.  
  2796. [09-Oct-19 04:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2797. And I'd rather have fun with the game. 🙂
  2798.  
  2799. [09-Oct-19 04:55 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2800. nothing else is going on anyway. If I'm gonna win, I'm gonna win a real game and not a dead one
  2801.  
  2802. [09-Oct-19 04:56 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2803. shoulda took a stab at Illi for good measure ;)
  2804.  
  2805. [09-Oct-19 04:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2806. We should just lynch Scan for good measure.
  2807.  
  2808. [09-Oct-19 04:57 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2809. hahaha
  2810.  
  2811. [09-Oct-19 05:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2812. I'm loving how (at least it seems) there is no suspicion on us.
  2813.  
  2814. [09-Oct-19 05:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2815. Or at least if there is no one has said anything.
  2816.  
  2817. [09-Oct-19 05:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2818. No one in the game anyway! haha
  2819.  
  2820. [09-Oct-19 05:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2821. True...
  2822.  
  2823. [09-Oct-19 05:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2824. I can only imagine what the dead thread is like right now
  2825.  
  2826. [09-Oct-19 05:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2827. with all the spectators
  2828.  
  2829. [09-Oct-19 05:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2830. Who's all spectating?
  2831.  
  2832. [09-Oct-19 05:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2833. Oaf, Zar, Aeylid that I know of
  2834.  
  2835. [09-Oct-19 05:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2836. @Zarania WHO'S SPECTATING
  2837.  
  2838. [09-Oct-19 05:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2839. probably shouldn't count Zar
  2840.  
  2841. [09-Oct-19 05:08 PM] Zarania#5789
  2842. everyone in the server who isn't marked as a player and all dead players
  2843.  
  2844. [09-Oct-19 05:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2845. It's probably a lot of fun to read the dead chat as mafia.
  2846.  
  2847. [09-Oct-19 05:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2848. I can't wait
  2849.  
  2850. [09-Oct-19 05:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2851. to see how bad they think I'm screwing up
  2852.  
  2853. [09-Oct-19 05:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2854. You think all the dead people think you're scum?
  2855.  
  2856. [09-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2857. I have no idea
  2858.  
  2859. [09-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2860. only that Aeylid thinks I am
  2861.  
  2862. [09-Oct-19 05:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2863. Aeylid just a big troll though.
  2864.  
  2865. [09-Oct-19 05:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2866. true!
  2867.  
  2868. [09-Oct-19 05:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2869. I don't tell him anything either. Because he wants to figure it out himself anyway. lol
  2870.  
  2871. [09-Oct-19 05:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2872.  
  2873.  
  2874. {Attachments}
  2875. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/631603798422585437/unknown.png
  2876.  
  2877. [09-Oct-19 05:29 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2878. no issues with it, but be careful we're not piggybacking too much I guess lol
  2879.  
  2880. [09-Oct-19 05:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2881. I don't think it will come off that way when you just directly called me out.
  2882.  
  2883. [09-Oct-19 05:30 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2884. I hope.
  2885.  
  2886. [09-Oct-19 05:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2887. oh, what fun :)
  2888.  
  2889. [09-Oct-19 05:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2890. ?
  2891.  
  2892. [09-Oct-19 05:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2893. the 'arguement' lol
  2894.  
  2895. [09-Oct-19 05:38 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2896. I just wanna see if we were fooling Oaf at this point later.
  2897.  
  2898. [09-Oct-19 05:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2899. I have a feeling the reason why the game is so quiet is because people legit have no idea.
  2900.  
  2901. [09-Oct-19 05:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2902. well someone is investigating stuff
  2903.  
  2904. [09-Oct-19 05:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2905. they're on to something at least
  2906.  
  2907. [09-Oct-19 05:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2908. I think if we're all alive tomorrow we've got a really good chance at this.
  2909.  
  2910. [09-Oct-19 05:45 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2911. Eli gettin stirred
  2912.  
  2913. [09-Oct-19 05:46 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2914. Lmfao and then you just can't help yourself.
  2915.  
  2916. [09-Oct-19 05:46 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2917. I caaaan't
  2918.  
  2919. [09-Oct-19 05:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2920. I'm gonna back off though, because I don't want it to look like I'm gunnin for him
  2921.  
  2922. [09-Oct-19 05:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2923. It's so funny.
  2924.  
  2925. [09-Oct-19 05:48 PM] sei#0242
  2926. good stuff lol
  2927.  
  2928. [09-Oct-19 05:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2929. I was actually worried I'd misattributed who said 'better people to vote' but then I found it and was all.. ooo.
  2930.  
  2931. [09-Oct-19 05:49 PM] sei#0242
  2932. The only thing is, we need to be kind of careful going too hard on Eli for protecting Swolf. Because obviously swolf isn't scum
  2933.  
  2934. [09-Oct-19 05:49 PM] sei#0242
  2935. So if/when the vote goes through, Eli will look good for saying not to vote him
  2936.  
  2937. [09-Oct-19 05:50 PM] sei#0242
  2938. And if you push too hard on Eli, it can come back on you in that case
  2939.  
  2940. [09-Oct-19 05:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2941. oh yeah, which is why I'm stepping back. Neither of them are, and we know that. Gunning for him like that would mean I have something on him, and I obviously don't lol
  2942.  
  2943. [09-Oct-19 05:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2944. I just really needed to poke him
  2945.  
  2946. [09-Oct-19 05:50 PM] sei#0242
  2947. I think the perfect thing right now is we're perfectly set up for a swolf lynch->Eli night kill->frame Sparty lynch
  2948.  
  2949. [09-Oct-19 05:51 PM] sei#0242
  2950. if we get those three, we going into night 3 with another kill. And basically auto-win from there?
  2951.  
  2952. [09-Oct-19 05:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2953. It's probably hard to push a vote onto Sparty.
  2954.  
  2955. [09-Oct-19 05:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2956. we'll have to see what develops after lynching Swolf, if we even manage that
  2957.  
  2958. [09-Oct-19 05:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2959. and of course, if none of us die in the process of killing Eli
  2960.  
  2961. [09-Oct-19 05:53 PM] sei#0242
  2962. Eli already saying he suspects Sparty lol
  2963.  
  2964. [09-Oct-19 05:54 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2965. Go Mier go. Poke Eli!
  2966.  
  2967. [09-Oct-19 05:54 PM] sei#0242
  2968. She misunderstood his post though. Eli is saying he doesn't trust Sparty.
  2969.  
  2970. [09-Oct-19 05:54 PM] sei#0242
  2971. I'm looking forward to Eli's rebuttal to explain
  2972.  
  2973. [09-Oct-19 05:55 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2974. yep, confusion is good for us
  2975.  
  2976. [09-Oct-19 05:55 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2977. man, after this one I'm going to have to be so careful how I play town. lol
  2978.  
  2979. [09-Oct-19 05:56 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  2980. I'll be legit confused over something and get lynched for it
  2981.  
  2982. [09-Oct-19 06:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2983. He suspects Sparty, which is good.
  2984.  
  2985. [09-Oct-19 06:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2986. He also is on the right track with two active people being mafia.
  2987.  
  2988. [09-Oct-19 06:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2989. If we get a free kill on Eli in the night someone could try and spin this onto Sparty.
  2990.  
  2991. [09-Oct-19 06:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2992. Having him killed because he was accusing him.
  2993.  
  2994. [09-Oct-19 06:24 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2995. Uh oh.
  2996.  
  2997. [09-Oct-19 06:25 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  2998. Needs to actually gain traction though.
  2999.  
  3000. [09-Oct-19 06:30 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3001. we're the most active. It was bound to happen
  3002.  
  3003. [09-Oct-19 06:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3004. Yeah but generally people always lynch lurkers until confirmed information.
  3005.  
  3006. [09-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3007. I agree. And if I were town, I'd think that's a sound plan of action too
  3008.  
  3009. [09-Oct-19 06:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3010. so it seems really weird to me, knowing he's town, that he'd suggest that's a mafia play lol
  3011.  
  3012. [09-Oct-19 06:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3013. If this gets traction I'm not sure if me and Illi voting for someone else is the correct play.
  3014.  
  3015. [09-Oct-19 06:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3016. Based on last game.
  3017.  
  3018. [09-Oct-19 06:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3019. Not much sense worrying about it for now.
  3020.  
  3021. [09-Oct-19 06:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3022. And if I try to protect you things could go bad quickly.
  3023.  
  3024. [09-Oct-19 06:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3025. E I'd just say that someone already said it.
  3026.  
  3027. [09-Oct-19 06:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3028. So there was no reason for you to do it as well.
  3029.  
  3030. [09-Oct-19 06:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3031. Unless you disagreed with them coming out this game.
  3032.  
  3033. [09-Oct-19 06:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3034. Yeah Illi on Page 6 said Freemasons should declare,
  3035.  
  3036. [09-Oct-19 06:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3037. Which you never disagreed with.
  3038.  
  3039. [09-Oct-19 06:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3040. What he's trying to extrapolate is a reach.
  3041.  
  3042. [09-Oct-19 06:41 PM] sei#0242
  3043. so far it's just Eli saying this. I think E just defends with what Cloude's just said that you never disagreed with that move
  3044.  
  3045. [09-Oct-19 06:42 PM] sei#0242
  3046. Keep it as an argument between the two of you, and I think it will blow over
  3047.  
  3048. [09-Oct-19 06:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3049. I mean Eli is right, but trying to say that you didn't say "Freemasons should declare" = you're scum again is quite a reach.
  3050.  
  3051. [09-Oct-19 06:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3052. Especially when someone ALREADY said it in the game.
  3053.  
  3054. [09-Oct-19 06:44 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3055. Worst case Scenario I think me and Illi bus, because I'm pretty sure right now Eli suspects you and Sparty of being scum.
  3056.  
  3057. [09-Oct-19 06:45 PM] sei#0242
  3058. I don't think the vote on E goes through
  3059.  
  3060. [09-Oct-19 06:46 PM] sei#0242
  3061. I mean I said it. And literally no one else reacted to it
  3062.  
  3063. [09-Oct-19 06:46 PM] sei#0242
  3064. and then the vote happened two days later with no more discussion about it
  3065.  
  3066. [09-Oct-19 06:47 PM] sei#0242
  3067. So for Eli to call out E for not agreeing with it, when no one else did either, isn't a good argument
  3068.  
  3069. [09-Oct-19 06:47 PM] sei#0242
  3070. I think she just needs to rebuttal with that point
  3071.  
  3072. [09-Oct-19 06:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3073. Yeah I agree.
  3074.  
  3075. [09-Oct-19 06:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3076. Don't come off as defensive, but just throw facts in his face.
  3077.  
  3078. [09-Oct-19 06:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3079. I'm happy Rawk said that.
  3080.  
  3081. [09-Oct-19 06:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3082. Because that's exactly what I would say if I was town.
  3083.  
  3084. [09-Oct-19 06:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3085. Trying to say you're suspicious for talking, when we've always been suspicious of the people not talking in previous games, would make me as a town call someone out on being mafia.
  3086.  
  3087. [09-Oct-19 07:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3088. bah, I was afk. sec
  3089.  
  3090. [09-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3091. how's that
  3092.  
  3093. {Attachments}
  3094. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/631629472772128781/I_didnt_say_it_so_Im_guilty.PNG
  3095.  
  3096. [09-Oct-19 07:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3097. Mmm
  3098.  
  3099. [09-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3100. actually
  3101.  
  3102. [09-Oct-19 07:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3103. lemme remove everything but the last line
  3104.  
  3105. [09-Oct-19 07:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3106. I think saying you didn't feel like being redudant when Illi already said it is better.
  3107.  
  3108. [09-Oct-19 07:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3109. Or that as well.
  3110.  
  3111. [09-Oct-19 07:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3112. "Illi already said it, no point in being redundant. But also, I didn't mention what no one else mentioned either, and that makes me scum?"
  3113.  
  3114. [09-Oct-19 07:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3115. Maybe don't end with a ?"?
  3116.  
  3117. [09-Oct-19 07:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3118. oops
  3119.  
  3120. [09-Oct-19 07:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3121. "?"
  3122.  
  3123. [09-Oct-19 07:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3124. End with a ...
  3125.  
  3126. [09-Oct-19 07:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3127. Answering a question with a question seems defensive to me.
  3128.  
  3129. [09-Oct-19 07:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3130. I think it's a very solid defense. I would be surprised if this gained traction.
  3131.  
  3132. [09-Oct-19 07:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3133. k, posted. Off to dinner! lol
  3134.  
  3135. [09-Oct-19 07:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3136. Have fun!
  3137.  
  3138. [09-Oct-19 07:21 PM] sei#0242
  3139. sushi?
  3140.  
  3141. [09-Oct-19 07:22 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3142. Nah, family dinner
  3143.  
  3144. [09-Oct-19 07:33 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3145. Don't defend me!
  3146.  
  3147. [09-Oct-19 07:33 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3148. Now I've explained mafia to the family. Lol
  3149.  
  3150. [09-Oct-19 07:37 PM] sei#0242
  3151. Nah, I'm calling out Eli
  3152.  
  3153. [09-Oct-19 07:38 PM] sei#0242
  3154. He directly referenced me, it would be weird for me not to respond
  3155.  
  3156. [09-Oct-19 07:38 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3157. Ok. Just ya know... Leave space to turn on me if needed
  3158.  
  3159. [09-Oct-19 07:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3160. I honestly think don't even respond to Eli anymore.
  3161.  
  3162. [09-Oct-19 08:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3163. well, I really don't want to dredge through the mafia chat of an old game to prove him wrong. I know I'm right, we talked about it much later and how it really wasn't so important
  3164.  
  3165. [09-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3166. when does this day phase end? tomorrow?
  3167.  
  3168. [09-Oct-19 08:25 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3169. Yeah
  3170.  
  3171. [09-Oct-19 08:25 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3172. Tomorrow 8 EST
  3173.  
  3174. [09-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3175. ok. Gonna let it lie awhile
  3176.  
  3177. [09-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3178. I don't think he's got anything to stand on at all, even with him calling my 'defense' weak
  3179.  
  3180. [09-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3181. honestly, I'd be a lot more miffed if I were town lol
  3182.  
  3183. [09-Oct-19 08:26 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3184. because he's just wrong lol
  3185.  
  3186. [09-Oct-19 08:26 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3187. I think that's why his vote isn't going anywhere.
  3188.  
  3189. [10-Oct-19 10:35 AM] sei#0242
  3190. keep me updated on anything major happening in the thread today. I probably won't be able to check it much
  3191.  
  3192. [10-Oct-19 10:35 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3193. Hmm you voted Swolf.
  3194.  
  3195. [10-Oct-19 10:35 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3196. That could link you to E pretty hard.
  3197.  
  3198. [10-Oct-19 10:35 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3199. I think it's best I don't vote this time around.
  3200.  
  3201. [10-Oct-19 10:36 AM] sei#0242
  3202. that's fine I think. Idk that E and I are linked that much? Sparty started the vote and Tzo voted in between E and I. E also voted like two days ago
  3203.  
  3204. [10-Oct-19 10:36 AM] sei#0242
  3205. I agree you don't vote, unless it's going to end in a no vote
  3206.  
  3207. [10-Oct-19 10:36 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3208. Yeah it should be a hard link.
  3209.  
  3210. [10-Oct-19 10:36 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3211. Late game someone could read into it once there are less people.
  3212.  
  3213. [10-Oct-19 10:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3214. But as we've learned there are very few people that look at voting patterns like that...
  3215.  
  3216. [10-Oct-19 10:37 AM] sei#0242
  3217. lol
  3218.  
  3219. [10-Oct-19 10:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3220. And we can just take out the ones that do soon.
  3221.  
  3222. [10-Oct-19 12:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3223. Swolf 1 away.
  3224.  
  3225. [10-Oct-19 12:53 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3226. Don't get antsy
  3227.  
  3228. [10-Oct-19 01:05 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3229. I'm not going to hammer.
  3230.  
  3231. [10-Oct-19 01:05 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3232. Noway.
  3233.  
  3234. [10-Oct-19 02:04 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3235. hey, we lynched the War vet
  3236.  
  3237. [10-Oct-19 02:05 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3238. Holy shit
  3239.  
  3240. [10-Oct-19 02:05 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3241. That's so good.
  3242.  
  3243. [10-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3244. why didn't he claim?
  3245.  
  3246. [10-Oct-19 02:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3247. I have a feeling if no information is revealed, which it may be cause I have a feeling you're going to get investigated like crazy E, that people are going to push for a lynch on Sparty.
  3248.  
  3249. [10-Oct-19 02:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3250. No idea.
  3251.  
  3252. [10-Oct-19 02:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3253. I feel like somebody has a lot of info already, and they're waiting to release it. Like, there's a police captain, and they're not super involved in the thread because they're sitting on a bunch of info now
  3254.  
  3255. [10-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3256. oh wait, they don't get results back
  3257.  
  3258. [10-Oct-19 02:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3259. Yeah Police Captain can only send people to kill.
  3260.  
  3261. [10-Oct-19 02:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3262. kill? I assumed they can send any role
  3263.  
  3264. [10-Oct-19 02:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3265. Oh wait maybe it's also investigation.
  3266.  
  3267. [10-Oct-19 02:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3268. that's what I figured. But they can't communicate with them, and they don't know who they are. Only that they exist. And if the people they send don't do as they say, then they commit no action
  3269.  
  3270. [10-Oct-19 02:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3271. Waaaaaaaait
  3272.  
  3273. [10-Oct-19 02:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3274. @Zarania What roles can the Police Captain control?
  3275.  
  3276. [10-Oct-19 02:10 PM] Zarania#5789
  3277. Any
  3278.  
  3279. [10-Oct-19 02:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3280. Does that include mafia?
  3281.  
  3282. [10-Oct-19 02:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3283. nah
  3284.  
  3285. [10-Oct-19 02:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3286. that wouldn't make sense
  3287.  
  3288. [10-Oct-19 02:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3289. Like could a Police Captain tell Illi to go track someone?
  3290.  
  3291. [10-Oct-19 02:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3292. description says they're in charge of cleaning up the town
  3293.  
  3294. [10-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Zarania#5789
  3295. They could have any roles under them. 2-3
  3296.  
  3297. [10-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3298. oh wat
  3299.  
  3300. [10-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3301. bwahaha
  3302.  
  3303. [10-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3304. so, that's a yes
  3305.  
  3306. [10-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Zarania#5789
  3307. Never heard of a dirty cop E?
  3308.  
  3309. [10-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3310. well yes
  3311.  
  3312. [10-Oct-19 02:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3313. That's so funny.
  3314.  
  3315. [10-Oct-19 02:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3316. But obviously he'd have no idea.
  3317.  
  3318. [10-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3319. that'd be more informative to us
  3320.  
  3321. [10-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3322. since we'd know Illi would be directed
  3323.  
  3324. [10-Oct-19 02:12 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3325. and it'd be someone they want to confirm
  3326.  
  3327. [10-Oct-19 02:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3328. It would be.
  3329.  
  3330. [10-Oct-19 02:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3331. so you think we can expect a vote on either Sparty or me next phase?
  3332.  
  3333. [10-Oct-19 02:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3334. I think it's Sparty is nothing is revealed.
  3335.  
  3336. [10-Oct-19 02:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3337. However I think investigation is going towards you or Sparty tonight.
  3338.  
  3339. [10-Oct-19 02:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3340. has Rawk been hammer twice in a row?
  3341.  
  3342. [10-Oct-19 02:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3343. or was Eli last hammer, I forget
  3344.  
  3345. [10-Oct-19 02:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3346. Rawk twice.
  3347.  
  3348. [10-Oct-19 02:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3349. well that's suspicious as heck
  3350.  
  3351. [10-Oct-19 02:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3352. Ok so
  3353.  
  3354. [10-Oct-19 02:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3355. About killing Eli.
  3356.  
  3357. [10-Oct-19 02:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3358. The only thing is will he get jailed?
  3359.  
  3360. [10-Oct-19 02:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3361. and if we kill him, after going for me, that makes me look suspicious. Buuut, that's fine.
  3362.  
  3363. [10-Oct-19 02:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3364. Well who are other options.
  3365.  
  3366. [10-Oct-19 02:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3367. Sparty (1): Mieranda
  3368. Eloriya (1): Elieae
  3369. Swolfi (6): Sparty, Eloriya, Tzodk, Illiniwek, Scandraya, Rawk
  3370. Not Voting (3): CloudedInSanity, Lethor, Swolfi
  3371.  
  3372. [10-Oct-19 02:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3373. So Mieranda, Eli, Sparty, Tzo, Scan, Rawk, or Lethor.
  3374.  
  3375. [10-Oct-19 02:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3376. Sparty people seem to be suspicious of.
  3377.  
  3378. [10-Oct-19 02:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3379. Same with Rawk.
  3380.  
  3381. [10-Oct-19 02:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3382. Lethor has been quiet and I think we can sorta confirm he's a Mailman.
  3383.  
  3384. [10-Oct-19 02:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3385. So he's not really a threat.
  3386.  
  3387. [10-Oct-19 02:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3388. I think killing Tzo is smart as people basically know he's town.
  3389.  
  3390. [10-Oct-19 02:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3391. However he could be protected.
  3392.  
  3393. [10-Oct-19 02:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3394. he is likely protected. Wait, what our the protection roles? is it only jail?
  3395.  
  3396. [10-Oct-19 02:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3397. Bodyguard as well.
  3398.  
  3399. [10-Oct-19 02:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3400. But Bodyguard still dies.
  3401.  
  3402. [10-Oct-19 02:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3403. doc
  3404.  
  3405. [10-Oct-19 02:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3406. there's a doc too
  3407.  
  3408. [10-Oct-19 02:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3409. Oh yeah Doc.
  3410.  
  3411. [10-Oct-19 02:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3412. And a hooker that can role block, which could prevent someone from death
  3413.  
  3414. [10-Oct-19 02:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3415. There are actually a lot of role blocks.
  3416.  
  3417. [10-Oct-19 02:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3418. Jailer/Hooker/Police Captain
  3419.  
  3420. [10-Oct-19 02:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3421. Are technically all role blocks.
  3422.  
  3423. [10-Oct-19 02:21 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3424. ah, if Illi gets assigned to track, he can't kill
  3425.  
  3426. [10-Oct-19 02:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3427. yup.
  3428.  
  3429. [10-Oct-19 02:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3430. That's why I should keep killing imo.
  3431.  
  3432. [10-Oct-19 02:21 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3433. but your role can be assigned too, right?
  3434.  
  3435. [10-Oct-19 02:21 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3436. he said any role
  3437.  
  3438. [10-Oct-19 02:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3439. It can.
  3440.  
  3441. [10-Oct-19 02:21 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3442. But I didn't get any interference last night.
  3443.  
  3444. [10-Oct-19 02:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3445. I really want El gone I just don't know if he's going to get protected tonight.
  3446.  
  3447. [10-Oct-19 02:23 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3448. I think of those left Mieranda/Tzo/Eli are the best choices to kill.
  3449.  
  3450. [10-Oct-19 02:23 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3451. it's possible, if others think I'm scum
  3452.  
  3453. [10-Oct-19 02:24 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3454. But we will wait and see what Illi thinks.
  3455.  
  3456. [10-Oct-19 02:24 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3457. Also Illi could go track someone tonight.
  3458.  
  3459. [10-Oct-19 02:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3460. Waaaaait.
  3461.  
  3462. [10-Oct-19 02:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3463. If we kill Mieranda.
  3464.  
  3465. [10-Oct-19 02:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3466. Flip as she was killed for pointing fingers at Sparty.
  3467.  
  3468. [10-Oct-19 02:28 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3469. I like where you're going
  3470.  
  3471. [10-Oct-19 02:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3472. I also feel like Mier is unlikely to get protection.
  3473.  
  3474. [10-Oct-19 02:29 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3475. killing Eli admits he's on to something. Which is frustrating as hell, since he's basing his argument on something ridiculous, but pointing fingers at the right person.
  3476.  
  3477. [10-Oct-19 02:30 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3478. Mier also hasn't had a ton of presence, so I was kind of dismissing her as a threat, since she was suspicious of Sparty and I thought we might use that. But yeah, sounds good to me
  3479.  
  3480. [10-Oct-19 02:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3481. Lets see what Illi thinks once he is back.
  3482.  
  3483. [10-Oct-19 02:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3484. if it works as a misdirect like we hope it will, it'll be more valuable that just silencing Eli
  3485.  
  3486. [10-Oct-19 02:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3487. than just*
  3488.  
  3489. [10-Oct-19 02:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3490. Sparty could role reveal to try and save himself though.
  3491.  
  3492. [10-Oct-19 02:33 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3493. he's probably something important since he's been so mild
  3494.  
  3495. [10-Oct-19 02:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3496. I agree.
  3497.  
  3498. [10-Oct-19 02:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3499. Which makes me want to kill him.
  3500.  
  3501. [10-Oct-19 02:33 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3502. lmao
  3503.  
  3504. [10-Oct-19 02:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3505. But at the same time people are suspicious of him.
  3506.  
  3507. [10-Oct-19 02:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3508. Which are good people to keep alive.
  3509.  
  3510. [10-Oct-19 02:34 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3511. true. And killing Mier will solidify that
  3512.  
  3513. [10-Oct-19 02:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3514. I still feel like keeping Eli and Sparty alive too long is dangerous.
  3515.  
  3516. [10-Oct-19 02:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3517. it is
  3518.  
  3519. [10-Oct-19 02:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3520. but also more fun
  3521.  
  3522. [10-Oct-19 02:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3523. I'd be surprised if we get to tomorrow and one of us haven't been investigated or caught.
  3524.  
  3525. [10-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3526. yeah, I kinda expect the vigilante to get me
  3527.  
  3528. [10-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3529. it's probably Eli! lol
  3530.  
  3531. [10-Oct-19 02:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3532. that'd be hilarious
  3533.  
  3534. [10-Oct-19 02:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3535. See I was thinking that.
  3536.  
  3537. [10-Oct-19 02:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3538. But he prob would have investigated you N1?
  3539.  
  3540. [10-Oct-19 02:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3541. vigilante kills though
  3542.  
  3543. [10-Oct-19 02:38 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3544. and if he's wrong, he dies
  3545.  
  3546. [10-Oct-19 02:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3547. Oh thought you meant he was invis.
  3548.  
  3549. [10-Oct-19 02:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3550. Would be funny if he was Vig.
  3551.  
  3552. [10-Oct-19 02:38 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3553. And killed you tonight.
  3554.  
  3555. [10-Oct-19 02:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3556. well, if he is, and he kills me tonight and we kill him also, I'm pretty sure we both die anyway
  3557.  
  3558. [10-Oct-19 02:39 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3559. You do.
  3560.  
  3561. [10-Oct-19 02:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3562. so might as well do Mier instead, and if I die, assume the vigilante is Eli
  3563.  
  3564. [10-Oct-19 02:40 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3565. That would be bad news.
  3566.  
  3567. [10-Oct-19 02:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3568. are either of you tied to me? any response you've made has been because you were mentioned
  3569.  
  3570. [10-Oct-19 02:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3571. Do we feel like Eli is coming off enough as town to get protection?
  3572.  
  3573. [10-Oct-19 02:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3574. I haven't defended you at all. In fact I sort of accused you.
  3575.  
  3576. [10-Oct-19 02:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3577. I accused you too, but I don't know that anyone read much into it
  3578.  
  3579. [10-Oct-19 02:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3580. Illi sort of defended you. But it was more responding to Eli.
  3581.  
  3582. [10-Oct-19 02:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3583. I don't think we should target Eli though
  3584.  
  3585. [10-Oct-19 02:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3586. it'd be too obvious
  3587.  
  3588. [10-Oct-19 02:42 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3589. I want to slay him.
  3590.  
  3591. [10-Oct-19 02:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3592. hahaha
  3593.  
  3594. [10-Oct-19 02:43 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3595. let's see what Illi thinks when he catches up
  3596.  
  3597. [10-Oct-19 02:43 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3598. I'ma grab some lunch since nothing can happen without us ;)
  3599.  
  3600. [10-Oct-19 02:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3601. I just realized, Illi is another person very likely to get protected
  3602.  
  3603. [10-Oct-19 02:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3604. Since he's been very pro town.
  3605.  
  3606. [10-Oct-19 02:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3607. I think we have Illi follower Eli tonight if we don't kill him.
  3608.  
  3609. [10-Oct-19 02:59 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3610. might be a good call since War Vet is dead. Of course, could be more than one, but if there were, I think we'd have more dead
  3611.  
  3612. [10-Oct-19 02:59 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3613. Same
  3614.  
  3615. [10-Oct-19 03:00 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3616. which is another thing. People will be more daring if now
  3617.  
  3618. [10-Oct-19 03:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3619. Can you imagine being a mafia war vet.
  3620.  
  3621. [10-Oct-19 03:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3622. My god.
  3623.  
  3624. [10-Oct-19 03:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3625. That would be nuts.
  3626.  
  3627. [10-Oct-19 03:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3628. Good thing it's not allowed.
  3629.  
  3630. [10-Oct-19 03:00 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3631. hahaha
  3632.  
  3633. [10-Oct-19 05:34 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3634. impatient townies
  3635.  
  3636. [10-Oct-19 05:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3637. So
  3638.  
  3639. [10-Oct-19 05:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3640. I know people do this.
  3641.  
  3642. [10-Oct-19 05:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3643. But Illi said that he had to afk today.
  3644.  
  3645. [10-Oct-19 05:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3646. Oh wait it don't matter anyways cause like everyone ahs a role.
  3647.  
  3648. [10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3649. nvm
  3650.  
  3651. [10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3652. you're worried someone will put it together because he said he'd be out today?
  3653.  
  3654. [10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3655. Yeah but it's irrelevant.
  3656.  
  3657. [10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3658. yeah
  3659.  
  3660. [10-Oct-19 05:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3661. All they could deduce is he has a role.
  3662.  
  3663. [10-Oct-19 05:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3664. we probably already killed the only vanilla townie >.>
  3665.  
  3666. [10-Oct-19 05:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3667. Lmao
  3668.  
  3669. [10-Oct-19 06:07 PM] sei#0242
  3670. So kill Eli or Mier?
  3671.  
  3672. [10-Oct-19 06:09 PM] sei#0242
  3673. I think maybe we don't kill either actually. Keep Mier alive to accuse Sparty
  3674.  
  3675. [10-Oct-19 06:09 PM] sei#0242
  3676. Killing Eli is risky because they could connect that to E
  3677.  
  3678. [10-Oct-19 06:10 PM] sei#0242
  3679. So maybe someone like Scan or Lethor
  3680.  
  3681. [10-Oct-19 06:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3682. Lethorr isn't a threat.
  3683.  
  3684. [10-Oct-19 06:10 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3685. We suspect.
  3686.  
  3687. [10-Oct-19 06:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3688. Don't you think it's more dangerous to keep Eli alive?
  3689.  
  3690. [10-Oct-19 06:11 PM] sei#0242
  3691. I'm good with Eli then
  3692.  
  3693. [10-Oct-19 06:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3694. Well we can have more of a discussion then that.
  3695.  
  3696. [10-Oct-19 06:11 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3697. I also think it's likely he may get protected.
  3698.  
  3699. [10-Oct-19 06:12 PM] sei#0242
  3700. When is night over?
  3701.  
  3702. [10-Oct-19 06:12 PM] sei#0242
  3703. Tomorrrow?
  3704.  
  3705. [10-Oct-19 06:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3706. Tomorrow
  3707.  
  3708. [10-Oct-19 06:12 PM] sei#0242
  3709. K. Let's just wait to make any decisions
  3710.  
  3711. [10-Oct-19 06:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3712. So we can think about stuff more?
  3713.  
  3714. [10-Oct-19 06:13 PM] sei#0242
  3715. Well also to cover for the fact that I said I was gone most of the day lol
  3716.  
  3717. [10-Oct-19 06:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3718. well if that's the case, we can just do the turn in of the action later tonight
  3719.  
  3720. [10-Oct-19 06:15 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3721. unless you're busy Illi, and can't discuss it right now
  3722.  
  3723. [10-Oct-19 06:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3724. So who are we thinking then?
  3725.  
  3726. [10-Oct-19 08:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3727. Mier or Eli I suppose
  3728.  
  3729. [10-Oct-19 08:12 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3730. what if we think of the choices Illi suggested too. Scan and Lethor. What's our reasoning for excluding those
  3731.  
  3732. [10-Oct-19 08:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3733. Eliminating Mier or leaving her alive produces potential suspicion on Sparty either way, but only as long as we believe that she'd push on Sparty if we let her live.
  3734.  
  3735. [10-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3736. I'm not sure what reasoning we'd have to killing Scan off, except he's one of the critical thinkers, although somewhat quieter
  3737.  
  3738. [10-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3739. Same for Lethor
  3740.  
  3741. [10-Oct-19 08:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3742. Eli is loud, but killing him off lends credibility to his outrageous reasoning
  3743.  
  3744. [10-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3745. which.. one of us could spin as a mafia tactic to make us believe him
  3746.  
  3747. [10-Oct-19 08:21 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3748. I'm against killing Eli, for the above reason, but of course, if you really want to Cloudes, I'll go with that. I could be wrong.
  3749.  
  3750. [10-Oct-19 08:22 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3751. My favorite target for tonight would be Mier (sorry Mier) because I think it makes Sparty look sketchier, and he's probably protected anyway. Eli might be protected too
  3752.  
  3753. [10-Oct-19 08:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3754. Lethor was Eli's other suggestion too
  3755.  
  3756. [10-Oct-19 08:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3757. I doubt Sparty is protected but I don't think he's a good target.
  3758.  
  3759. [10-Oct-19 08:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3760. Scan/Lethorr imo doesn't seem "good" because they don't really seem town atm.
  3761.  
  3762. [10-Oct-19 08:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3763. Neither does Rawk.
  3764.  
  3765. [10-Oct-19 08:32 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3766. Taking out Mieranda could make people think Sparty.
  3767.  
  3768. [10-Oct-19 08:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3769. In fact Eli said he didn't trust Sparty.
  3770.  
  3771. [10-Oct-19 08:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3772. Taking out Mier could make him think that even more.
  3773.  
  3774. [10-Oct-19 08:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3775. I also feel like Mier is unlikely to be protected.
  3776.  
  3777. [10-Oct-19 08:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3778. so we're on the same page. Just wait on Illi to weigh in again then lol, because we're just talking in circles
  3779.  
  3780. [10-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3781. Is there anything else we're missing that needs to be discussed right now? since there's a chance I won't see the morning
  3782.  
  3783. [10-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3784. or rather, the morning phase
  3785.  
  3786. [10-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3787. since Illi might not be back tonight I mean. lol
  3788.  
  3789. [10-Oct-19 08:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3790. ah right, we were thinking about Illi tracking someone, weren't we?
  3791.  
  3792. [10-Oct-19 08:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3793. are you sending a letter too?
  3794.  
  3795. [10-Oct-19 08:38 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3796. oh nvm, you can't do that if you're killing
  3797.  
  3798. [10-Oct-19 08:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3799. What Illi proposed was that keeping Mieranda alive could make her go after Sparty.
  3800.  
  3801. [10-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3802. I recognize that. But is the value the same? What I mean is, how much force will she go after him with, and what bearing do her viewpoints have on everyone else. Is that more powerful than her death and the suspicion it might generate. And also, do we have the kinds of players remaining that aren't us that will read into that.
  3803.  
  3804. [10-Oct-19 08:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3805. But regardless lets just wait till Illi is back and we can all have a conversation.
  3806.  
  3807. [10-Oct-19 08:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3808. Yeah thats the thing.
  3809.  
  3810. [10-Oct-19 08:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3811. If we kill Mier, do people think nothing of it?
  3812.  
  3813. [10-Oct-19 08:51 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3814. bleh, I know. I'm trying to be quiet so he doesn't have to read a ton. lol
  3815.  
  3816. [10-Oct-19 08:52 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3817. If they don't think anything of it, didn't do much.
  3818.  
  3819. [10-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3820. I do know Sparty will read into it
  3821.  
  3822. [10-Oct-19 08:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3823. but he's the target lol
  3824.  
  3825. [10-Oct-19 08:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3826. What do you think he will say?
  3827.  
  3828. [10-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3829. That it's a play to make him look suspicious. But then again, he might not mention it
  3830.  
  3831. [10-Oct-19 08:54 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3832. I can't recall reading through a scum thread where we've done a play like this recently
  3833.  
  3834. [10-Oct-19 08:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3835. There's a lot to think about on this one.
  3836.  
  3837. [10-Oct-19 09:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3838. Someone gonna accuse us of having guns soon. lol
  3839.  
  3840. [10-Oct-19 09:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3841. Probably.
  3842.  
  3843. [10-Oct-19 09:48 PM] sei#0242
  3844. Are we sure that Eli would be protected? He hasn't really come off as particularly town
  3845.  
  3846. [10-Oct-19 09:48 PM] sei#0242
  3847. more just accusing and talking in circles
  3848.  
  3849. [10-Oct-19 09:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3850. He may not be.
  3851.  
  3852. [10-Oct-19 09:52 PM] sei#0242
  3853. I think if Eli is around another day, he will start putting things together
  3854.  
  3855. [10-Oct-19 09:53 PM] sei#0242
  3856. and it will be hard to defend against
  3857.  
  3858. [10-Oct-19 09:53 PM] sei#0242
  3859. War vet is gone, so that gives us a bit more freedom to do our own investigation
  3860.  
  3861. [10-Oct-19 09:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3862. That is what I'm also worried about.
  3863.  
  3864. [10-Oct-19 09:55 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3865. If he will put stuff together.
  3866.  
  3867. [10-Oct-19 10:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3868. well, ok, if you guys really think that's the path we need to take, then let's get it done already. I'm probably the vigilante target anyway tonight
  3869.  
  3870. [10-Oct-19 10:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3871. I'll post to the effect that the mafia wants us to think Eli was right by taking him out, if I'm still alive, if anyone says anything about it
  3872.  
  3873. [10-Oct-19 10:12 PM] sei#0242
  3874. What would be more valuable at this point? Sending a letter or tracking somone?
  3875.  
  3876. [10-Oct-19 10:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3877. Tracking imo
  3878.  
  3879. [10-Oct-19 10:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3880. agree
  3881.  
  3882. [10-Oct-19 10:13 PM] sei#0242
  3883. Who are we thinking?
  3884.  
  3885. [10-Oct-19 10:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3886. Sparty?
  3887.  
  3888. [10-Oct-19 10:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3889. Hopefully there isn't another War vet...
  3890.  
  3891. [10-Oct-19 10:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3892. Sparty is probably a good choice to Track.
  3893.  
  3894. [10-Oct-19 10:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3895. if Sparty were a War Vet, he'd be slinging so much shit all game
  3896.  
  3897. [10-Oct-19 10:15 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3898. Tracker only tells us who they visit. Man, they could be so many things still
  3899.  
  3900. [10-Oct-19 10:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3901. unless Eli doesn't die and he visits him
  3902.  
  3903. [10-Oct-19 10:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3904. We learn if they have something, and learn something about who they choose to visit.
  3905.  
  3906. [10-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3907. Eli, when you're reading this later, I'm sorry for stirring you up again. But it's good to know you're considered a threat, right?
  3908.  
  3909. [10-Oct-19 10:19 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3910. lmao
  3911.  
  3912. [10-Oct-19 10:20 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3913. He may not die yet!
  3914.  
  3915. [10-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3916. yeah, but it doesn't change the fact that we wanted him dead!
  3917.  
  3918. [10-Oct-19 10:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3919. Yes Eli, I want you dead.
  3920.  
  3921. [10-Oct-19 10:22 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3922. DEAD
  3923.  
  3924. [10-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3925. hahaha
  3926.  
  3927. [10-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3928. we need to get our actions in so this can happen
  3929.  
  3930. [10-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3931. well, you two do.
  3932.  
  3933. [10-Oct-19 10:23 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3934. I'm just the radio
  3935.  
  3936. [10-Oct-19 10:23 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3937. But Rawk going off in chat is funny.
  3938.  
  3939. [10-Oct-19 10:24 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3940. We need to confirm who @sei is tracking.
  3941.  
  3942. [10-Oct-19 10:25 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3943. Then we can submit.
  3944.  
  3945. [10-Oct-19 10:28 PM] sei#0242
  3946. So we're killing Eli and tracking Sparty?
  3947.  
  3948. [10-Oct-19 10:29 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3949. Is there anyone else you would like to Track?
  3950.  
  3951. [10-Oct-19 10:30 PM] sei#0242
  3952. I'm not sure. We're planning to push votes onto sparty pretty hard in the next day phase. I think other's will be as well. So if the vote is going to go that way either way, then it is kind of a waste to track him
  3953.  
  3954. [10-Oct-19 10:31 PM] sei#0242
  3955. We'll only need 5 to lynch
  3956.  
  3957. [10-Oct-19 10:31 PM] sei#0242
  3958. Mier seems like a pretty easy one to sway that way. And I think the three of us could be safe voting together at that point
  3959.  
  3960. [10-Oct-19 10:31 PM] sei#0242
  3961. So we'd just need one other person
  3962.  
  3963. [10-Oct-19 10:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3964. that's good reasoning. So we should track someone else then
  3965.  
  3966. [10-Oct-19 10:32 PM] sei#0242
  3967. So the value of tracking sparty would be that we have some info in case he tries to say night actions
  3968.  
  3969. [10-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3970. ah
  3971.  
  3972. [10-Oct-19 10:32 PM] sei#0242
  3973. say he says he investigated someone himself, we'll know who he actually visited
  3974.  
  3975. [10-Oct-19 10:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3976. good call
  3977.  
  3978. [10-Oct-19 10:32 PM] sei#0242
  3979. If we track someone else, we can utilize that info in the next day phase and the day phase after that
  3980.  
  3981. [10-Oct-19 10:33 PM] sei#0242
  3982. So I'm not sure which is more valuable. I guess tracking Sparty still makes sense as this will be probably the most critical lynch of the game? If we pull it off, we basically win because the next day phase we only need 4 votes
  3983.  
  3984. [10-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3985. ok, so who else would we like to track?
  3986.  
  3987. [10-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3988. are there better options?
  3989.  
  3990. [10-Oct-19 10:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3991. Scan?
  3992.  
  3993. [10-Oct-19 10:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  3994. I like that option
  3995.  
  3996. [10-Oct-19 10:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  3997. Or
  3998.  
  3999. [10-Oct-19 10:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4000. We can just play it safe.
  4001.  
  4002. [10-Oct-19 10:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4003. Because tracking tells us minimal information.
  4004.  
  4005. [10-Oct-19 10:37 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4006. Getting killed by a vet is huge.
  4007.  
  4008. [10-Oct-19 10:38 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4009. not using it also keeps them from potentially seeing him visit someone too
  4010.  
  4011. [10-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4012. unless it's a follower that sees investigation
  4013.  
  4014. [10-Oct-19 10:39 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4015. which could look good
  4016.  
  4017. [10-Oct-19 10:40 PM] sei#0242
  4018. Tracking would let us see if someone is lying, is I guess the biggest value of it for mafia
  4019.  
  4020. [10-Oct-19 10:40 PM] sei#0242
  4021. it's a much stronger town power
  4022.  
  4023. [10-Oct-19 10:41 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4024. Maybe we just play safe.
  4025.  
  4026. [10-Oct-19 10:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4027. let's get to killin!
  4028.  
  4029. [10-Oct-19 10:43 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4030. I'm good with what you guys decide in that regard. Since apparently this radio is so heavy, I can't lift a gun
  4031.  
  4032. [10-Oct-19 10:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4033. It's best we keep you alive!
  4034.  
  4035. [10-Oct-19 10:43 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4036. Ok Illi, does that mean we aren't tracking?
  4037.  
  4038. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] sei#0242
  4039. I think we just do it
  4040.  
  4041. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] sei#0242
  4042. what do we have to lose?
  4043.  
  4044. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] sei#0242
  4045. the worst outcome would be a follower seeing me?
  4046.  
  4047. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4048. You.
  4049.  
  4050. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4051. xD
  4052.  
  4053. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4054. War vet
  4055.  
  4056. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] sei#0242
  4057. you think there are two vets?
  4058.  
  4059. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4060. Could be!
  4061.  
  4062. [10-Oct-19 10:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4063. could be more than one tracker
  4064.  
  4065. [10-Oct-19 10:48 PM] sei#0242
  4066. Could be famous last words, but I think the chances of two vets are low
  4067.  
  4068. [10-Oct-19 10:48 PM] sei#0242
  4069. we also had a vanilla townie
  4070.  
  4071. [10-Oct-19 10:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4072. I think that'd be pretty evil of Zar
  4073.  
  4074. [10-Oct-19 10:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4075. but he does seem to have a nefarious streak
  4076.  
  4077. [10-Oct-19 10:48 PM] sei#0242
  4078. I say Cloudes kill Eli, I track Sparty
  4079.  
  4080. [10-Oct-19 10:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4081. I agree with that
  4082.  
  4083. [10-Oct-19 10:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4084. Ok
  4085.  
  4086. [10-Oct-19 10:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4087. Your choice!
  4088.  
  4089. [10-Oct-19 10:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4090. So we will confirm that then.
  4091.  
  4092. [10-Oct-19 10:49 PM] Zarania#5789
  4093. Confirmed
  4094.  
  4095. [10-Oct-19 10:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4096. Oh
  4097.  
  4098. [10-Oct-19 10:49 PM] Zarania#5789
  4099. alwayswatching
  4100.  
  4101. [10-Oct-19 10:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4102. I was going say something like I'm going to kill Eli so hard he will die instantly at the start of next game.
  4103.  
  4104. [10-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4105. so. Here's to hoping we're here at start of day phase!
  4106.  
  4107. [10-Oct-19 10:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4108. also, Sorry Eli
  4109.  
  4110. [10-Oct-19 10:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4111. No sorry.
  4112.  
  4113. [10-Oct-19 10:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4114. Never sorry.
  4115.  
  4116. [10-Oct-19 10:51 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4117. but he was just getting wound up!
  4118.  
  4119. [10-Oct-19 10:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4120. It's true.
  4121.  
  4122. [10-Oct-19 10:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4123. We need to see if he dies first.
  4124.  
  4125. [10-Oct-19 10:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4126. I could get jailed
  4127.  
  4128. [10-Oct-19 10:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4129. Or he could
  4130.  
  4131. [10-Oct-19 10:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4132. Or some shit.
  4133.  
  4134. [10-Oct-19 10:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4135. let's not name all the variables. We could be here all night
  4136.  
  4137. [10-Oct-19 10:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4138. I blame zar.
  4139.  
  4140. [10-Oct-19 10:53 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4141. Lady of the night could visit you too!
  4142.  
  4143. [10-Oct-19 10:53 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4144. It;s true.
  4145.  
  4146. [10-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Zarania#5789
  4147. gotta keep it fun
  4148.  
  4149. [10-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Zarania#5789
  4150. Just wait for me to run a closed setup where you all have 0 idea of what the roles in the game even could be
  4151.  
  4152. [10-Oct-19 10:54 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4153. ha!
  4154.  
  4155. [10-Oct-19 10:58 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4156. Watch it not even be us we were waiting on.
  4157.  
  4158. [10-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4159. I was just thinking that
  4160.  
  4161. [10-Oct-19 10:58 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4162. Zar's probably writing up my death scene though.
  4163.  
  4164. [10-Oct-19 10:59 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4165. I'm sure he already has them written up.
  4166.  
  4167. [10-Oct-19 11:03 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4168. If that's true, then I'm the hold up, because I made a special request for my death scene >.>
  4169.  
  4170. [10-Oct-19 11:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4171. E you won't die.
  4172.  
  4173. [10-Oct-19 11:04 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4174. bury me with my radio!
  4175.  
  4176. [10-Oct-19 11:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4177. E was that gif in the right channel lol
  4178.  
  4179. [10-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4180. yes
  4181.  
  4182. [10-Oct-19 11:12 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4183. we were posting gifs earlier of time!
  4184.  
  4185. [10-Oct-19 11:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4186. I'm not rushing Zar, I'm rushing anyone else with a night action
  4187.  
  4188. [10-Oct-19 11:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4189. ZAR
  4190.  
  4191. [10-Oct-19 11:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4192. MUSH
  4193.  
  4194. [10-Oct-19 11:13 PM] Zarania#5789
  4195. I'm not the bottleneck here.
  4196.  
  4197. [10-Oct-19 11:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4198. lmao
  4199.  
  4200. [10-Oct-19 11:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4201. See it is someone else.
  4202.  
  4203. [10-Oct-19 11:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4204. Just let me know if Eli has been decimated.
  4205.  
  4206. [10-Oct-19 11:15 PM] Zarania#5789
  4207. If it was day phase now I would post day phase. Or I've decided that tomorrow is when I start the new day because starting it at 11:15 isn't the right time. One or the other.
  4208.  
  4209. [10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Zarania#5789
  4210. Could be you all were slow enough to get it that I waited for tomorrow. Who knows?
  4211.  
  4212. [10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Zarania#5789
  4213. (I do)
  4214.  
  4215. [10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4216. Nah that's not it.
  4217.  
  4218. [10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4219. You're mean Zar! I need to know if I live!
  4220.  
  4221. [10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4222. Who cares about E just tell me if Eli died.
  4223.  
  4224. [10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4225. hahahha
  4226.  
  4227. [10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Zarania#5789
  4228. Magic 8 ball days undecided on both.
  4229.  
  4230. [10-Oct-19 11:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4231. amg
  4232.  
  4233. [10-Oct-19 11:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4234. the humanity
  4235.  
  4236. [10-Oct-19 11:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4237. Watch E be dead and Eli not be dead.
  4238.  
  4239. [10-Oct-19 11:18 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4240. The worst timeline.
  4241.  
  4242. [10-Oct-19 11:18 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4243. That would be the worst. I'd never be able to shut him up in any game
  4244.  
  4245. [11-Oct-19 10:36 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4246. uh
  4247.  
  4248. [11-Oct-19 10:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4249. We did it?
  4250.  
  4251. [11-Oct-19 10:37 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4252. Cloudes, I got a letter signed by you
  4253.  
  4254. [11-Oct-19 10:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4255. LMAO
  4256.  
  4257. [11-Oct-19 10:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4258. so someone is sending fake letters.
  4259.  
  4260. [11-Oct-19 10:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4261. What does it say.
  4262.  
  4263. [11-Oct-19 10:37 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4264. it sounds a lot like Aeylid's writing, which is hilarious
  4265.  
  4266. [11-Oct-19 10:38 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4267. "I'm onto you....scummy scum scum! Cloudes"
  4268.  
  4269. [11-Oct-19 10:38 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4270. I'm laughing so much
  4271.  
  4272. [11-Oct-19 10:38 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4273. It's totally fucking Scan.
  4274.  
  4275. [11-Oct-19 10:39 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4276. I think we also have to assume.
  4277.  
  4278. [11-Oct-19 10:39 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4279. My letter is not from Lethorr.
  4280.  
  4281. [11-Oct-19 10:39 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4282. Since both of them are now signed from different people.
  4283.  
  4284. [11-Oct-19 10:39 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4285. unless we've got 3 mailmen! bwahahha
  4286.  
  4287. [11-Oct-19 10:40 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4288. Eli is probably pissed.
  4289.  
  4290. [11-Oct-19 10:40 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4291. oh I'm sure. Sorry again, Eli
  4292.  
  4293. [11-Oct-19 10:40 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4294. NOT
  4295.  
  4296. [11-Oct-19 10:40 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4297. SORRY
  4298.  
  4299. [11-Oct-19 10:41 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4300. I'm still laughing about this letter
  4301.  
  4302. [11-Oct-19 10:42 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4303. So we still haven't killed any investigative roles.
  4304.  
  4305. [11-Oct-19 10:42 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4306. I think we have to be careful today about linking ourselves together.
  4307.  
  4308. [11-Oct-19 10:42 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4309. There's a mailman out there that's convinced I'm scum though
  4310.  
  4311. [11-Oct-19 10:42 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4312. Also, I think only Illi should do the finger pointing as anyone, as he's significantly less likely to be found out as scum.
  4313.  
  4314. [11-Oct-19 10:43 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4315. Are they.
  4316.  
  4317. [11-Oct-19 10:43 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4318. Or are they just throwing shit around lol
  4319.  
  4320. [11-Oct-19 10:43 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4321. They were also convinced Sparty and Rawk were scum the day before.
  4322.  
  4323. [11-Oct-19 10:43 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4324. HOLY SHIT
  4325.  
  4326. [11-Oct-19 10:43 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4327. I JUST REALIZED
  4328.  
  4329. [11-Oct-19 10:43 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4330. Eli being a bodyguard
  4331.  
  4332. [11-Oct-19 10:43 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4333. o.o
  4334.  
  4335. [11-Oct-19 10:43 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4336. IS SO GOOD FOR US
  4337.  
  4338. [11-Oct-19 10:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4339. Because it can look like we didn't target him.
  4340.  
  4341. [11-Oct-19 10:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4342. And targeted someone else.
  4343.  
  4344. [11-Oct-19 10:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4345. So that means it doesn't fall back on you E.
  4346.  
  4347. [11-Oct-19 10:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4348. Unless I got tracked last night.
  4349.  
  4350. [11-Oct-19 10:45 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4351. I guess... but how do we go about putting that in people's heads without making it look like we set it up?
  4352.  
  4353. [11-Oct-19 10:46 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4354. I think it's pretty easy to realize he could of died protecting someone else.
  4355.  
  4356. [11-Oct-19 10:46 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4357. And wasn't the target.
  4358.  
  4359. [11-Oct-19 10:46 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4360. I think we don't even mention it.
  4361.  
  4362. [11-Oct-19 10:46 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4363. Because Mieranda already has.
  4364.  
  4365. [11-Oct-19 10:47 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4366. perfect
  4367.  
  4368. [11-Oct-19 10:47 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4369. I want to know if Illi found anything out.
  4370.  
  4371. [11-Oct-19 10:49 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4372. God I want to go in and point fingers so bad but if I do and I've been investigated it means anyone I point fingers at is obviously town.
  4373.  
  4374. [11-Oct-19 10:49 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4375. yeah, we gotta be super careful now
  4376.  
  4377. [11-Oct-19 10:50 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4378. Illi like I said is the best one to point fingers.
  4379.  
  4380. [11-Oct-19 10:50 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4381. so.. if I don't call you out in the thread for this letter, does that confirm to the real sender that we're in this together?
  4382.  
  4383. [11-Oct-19 10:50 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4384. But since I'm killing, and since you are the Radio it's super easy to investigate us.
  4385.  
  4386. [11-Oct-19 10:50 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4387. I don't think so?
  4388.  
  4389. [11-Oct-19 10:51 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4390. However
  4391.  
  4392. [11-Oct-19 10:51 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4393. Posting that letter.
  4394.  
  4395. [11-Oct-19 10:51 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4396. Could put distance between us.
  4397.  
  4398. [11-Oct-19 10:51 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4399. Maybe...
  4400.  
  4401. [11-Oct-19 10:52 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4402. I like the idea of it. But I don't want to get investigated, or you investigated
  4403.  
  4404. [11-Oct-19 10:53 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4405. Zar, what does the private eye see when they investigate someone? Both alignment and role or just role?
  4406.  
  4407. [11-Oct-19 10:54 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4408. I understand that if I get investigated, I would return as Radio Operator. That's mafia only
  4409.  
  4410. [11-Oct-19 10:55 AM] Zarania#5789
  4411. Role name only
  4412.  
  4413. [11-Oct-19 10:55 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4414. I may make a post saying "My initial thought on seeing they killed Eli was that it added credibility to Mier/E being scum as he was targeting him, however being the bodyguard that's now almost impossible to say."
  4415.  
  4416. [11-Oct-19 10:56 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4417. so it would take the work of both a gunsmith and tracker to actually definitively say someone is scum
  4418.  
  4419. [11-Oct-19 10:56 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4420. unless it's me.
  4421.  
  4422. [11-Oct-19 10:56 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4423. Yes E.
  4424.  
  4425. [11-Oct-19 10:56 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4426. Or
  4427.  
  4428. [11-Oct-19 10:56 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4429. They could figure it out from the other invest.
  4430.  
  4431. [11-Oct-19 10:56 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4432. Learning role type.
  4433.  
  4434. [11-Oct-19 10:56 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4435. Like if I go kill someone and get tracked by them, it shows up as "Killing".
  4436.  
  4437. [11-Oct-19 10:56 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4438. right
  4439.  
  4440. [11-Oct-19 10:57 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4441. Which basically means I'm scum.
  4442.  
  4443. [11-Oct-19 10:57 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4444. well, followed, not tracked
  4445.  
  4446. [11-Oct-19 10:57 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4447. Yeah that one.
  4448.  
  4449. [11-Oct-19 10:57 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4450. your post would be spoonfeeding
  4451.  
  4452. [11-Oct-19 10:58 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4453. Can you elaborate?
  4454.  
  4455. [11-Oct-19 10:58 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4456. I wonder how many others realize the mafia have roles too
  4457.  
  4458. [11-Oct-19 10:58 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4459. ``There's two ppl in this game that can confirm my role, so I'll go ahead and claim as the mailman. Cloudes will have gotten a mail from lethorr and E would have got one from cloudes. If they aren't willing to confirm my identity, it will be quite suspicious. At this time we need to narrow ppl down and this is a good place to start.``
  4460.  
  4461. [11-Oct-19 10:59 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4462. Scan ^
  4463.  
  4464. [11-Oct-19 10:59 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4465. well, you're thinking like a mafia, from a mafia's perspective. Others will read what you've said, and note how you might have arrived at that conclusion
  4466.  
  4467. [11-Oct-19 10:59 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4468. aha, we pegged him ages ago
  4469.  
  4470. [11-Oct-19 10:59 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4471. dang, I shoulda posted about that letter.
  4472.  
  4473. [11-Oct-19 11:01 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4474. This is good though.
  4475.  
  4476. [11-Oct-19 11:02 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4477. Mailman is a pretty useless role.
  4478.  
  4479. [11-Oct-19 11:02 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4480. Ok this is going to get tricky people are role calling.
  4481.  
  4482. [11-Oct-19 11:02 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4483. And I haven't sent any letters!
  4484.  
  4485. [11-Oct-19 11:03 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4486.  
  4487.  
  4488. {Attachments}
  4489. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/632231757160382472/uncool_cloudes_letter.PNG
  4490.  
  4491. [11-Oct-19 11:04 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4492. So if we are rolecalling, I either have to say I'm Mailman and maybe say I sent one to Illi on N2 (then he could confirm my role).
  4493.  
  4494. [11-Oct-19 11:04 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4495. Or since I could have been investigated and found to have a gun I could say Gunsmith.
  4496.  
  4497. [11-Oct-19 11:04 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4498. I can say I didn't send a Mail N1 cause I was paranoid about a War Vet.
  4499.  
  4500. [11-Oct-19 11:05 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4501. Should we both exposed our letter?
  4502.  
  4503. [11-Oct-19 11:05 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4504. It could put heat on Scan.
  4505.  
  4506. [11-Oct-19 11:06 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4507. how? it looks like no one else understands how the role works
  4508.  
  4509. [11-Oct-19 11:06 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4510. oh
  4511.  
  4512. [11-Oct-19 11:06 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4513. you mean deny it
  4514.  
  4515. [11-Oct-19 11:06 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4516. Not deny.
  4517.  
  4518. [11-Oct-19 11:06 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4519. You can still be Mailman and be scum.
  4520.  
  4521. [11-Oct-19 11:06 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4522. right, but other people are misunderstanding how the role works
  4523.  
  4524. [11-Oct-19 11:07 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4525. Lethorr is the jailer.
  4526.  
  4527. [11-Oct-19 11:07 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4528. Lethor thinks Scan passed along a letter that is signed by him
  4529.  
  4530. [11-Oct-19 11:07 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4531. should I post my above screenshot?
  4532.  
  4533. [11-Oct-19 11:07 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4534. I don't think there is any harm?
  4535.  
  4536. [11-Oct-19 11:08 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4537. good, me either
  4538.  
  4539. [11-Oct-19 11:08 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4540. Scan just accused me
  4541.  
  4542. [11-Oct-19 11:09 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4543. Wait
  4544.  
  4545. [11-Oct-19 11:09 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4546. His accusation is based on you shouldn't have received the letter?
  4547.  
  4548. [11-Oct-19 11:09 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4549. He's just wrong though.
  4550.  
  4551. [11-Oct-19 11:09 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4552. I have no idea
  4553.  
  4554. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4555. ``Ok, so E won't get the mail than.``
  4556.  
  4557. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4558. yeah I see it
  4559.  
  4560. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4561. So he's saying you lied?
  4562.  
  4563. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4564. But you got the letter...
  4565.  
  4566. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4567. I know what the letter said, I can't be lying hahahaha
  4568.  
  4569. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4570. I think there's a misunderstanding somewhere
  4571.  
  4572. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4573. Yeah I'd just post it.
  4574.  
  4575. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4576. And he will back off.
  4577.  
  4578. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4579. and it's going to work in our favor
  4580.  
  4581. [11-Oct-19 11:10 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4582. I did post it
  4583.  
  4584. [11-Oct-19 11:13 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4585. E I have no idea with you roleclaim as.
  4586.  
  4587. [11-Oct-19 11:13 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4588. I think it may be best for me and Illi to just bus you.
  4589.  
  4590. [11-Oct-19 11:13 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4591. Take out Mieranda in the night.
  4592.  
  4593. [11-Oct-19 11:13 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4594. I'm ok with that, but lemme flounder a bit with it, and keep distance between us
  4595.  
  4596. [11-Oct-19 11:14 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4597. I might claim Police Captain
  4598.  
  4599. [11-Oct-19 11:14 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4600. nah, Vigilante
  4601.  
  4602. [11-Oct-19 11:14 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4603. I have a gun, and I haven't tried to kill anyone
  4604.  
  4605. [11-Oct-19 11:14 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4606. Oh
  4607.  
  4608. [11-Oct-19 11:14 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4609. Vigilante is a good role claim actually.
  4610.  
  4611. [11-Oct-19 11:15 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4612. might keep me alive a day
  4613.  
  4614. [11-Oct-19 11:15 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4615. til I get actually investigated lol
  4616.  
  4617. [11-Oct-19 11:16 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4618. If I got investigated and rolecall as Mailman and say I sent Illi a mail could that implicate him?
  4619.  
  4620. [11-Oct-19 11:17 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4621. he can always say he's afraid you were scum and so he said nothing about it
  4622.  
  4623. [11-Oct-19 11:17 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4624. But I'm using that as my cover story basically.
  4625.  
  4626. [11-Oct-19 11:18 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4627. I think I don't rolecall unless I get called out.
  4628.  
  4629. [11-Oct-19 11:18 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4630. And depending on how I get called out I can say something different.
  4631.  
  4632. [11-Oct-19 11:18 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4633. yeah I'm gonna claim ina bit, taking care of an app in the inbox first lol
  4634.  
  4635. [11-Oct-19 11:19 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4636. I could roleclaim Gunsmith and say I investigated you last night and that you have a gun, that's so ballsy though.
  4637.  
  4638. [11-Oct-19 11:19 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4639. it is
  4640.  
  4641. [11-Oct-19 11:20 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4642. not sure if they'd see through it or not
  4643.  
  4644. [11-Oct-19 11:20 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4645. WE NEED ILLI
  4646.  
  4647. [11-Oct-19 11:20 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4648. NOW
  4649.  
  4650. [11-Oct-19 11:20 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4651. haha
  4652.  
  4653. [11-Oct-19 11:20 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4654. Need to know if Sparty has something.
  4655.  
  4656. [11-Oct-19 11:20 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4657. well I kinda have to claim nowish
  4658.  
  4659. [11-Oct-19 11:20 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4660. you're currently in the clear
  4661.  
  4662. [11-Oct-19 11:20 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4663. I am unless Sparty/Rawk have learned something.
  4664.  
  4665. [11-Oct-19 11:21 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4666. Which Illi would cancel out Sparty.
  4667.  
  4668. [11-Oct-19 11:21 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4669. @sei Halp
  4670.  
  4671. [11-Oct-19 11:23 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4672. I do think bussing you could make this an ez win.
  4673.  
  4674. [11-Oct-19 11:23 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4675. Sadly.
  4676.  
  4677. [11-Oct-19 11:24 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4678. wouldn't be the first time I got murdered by my own for a win :)
  4679.  
  4680. [11-Oct-19 11:24 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4681. see if you can get them to commit to investigating me though
  4682.  
  4683. [11-Oct-19 11:25 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4684. I mean, not go crazy with it, but if you can tie up the invest, you can avoid it yourself
  4685.  
  4686. [11-Oct-19 11:25 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4687. We will see what happens with this Vig rolecall.
  4688.  
  4689. [11-Oct-19 11:25 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4690. I would have liked to hear back from Illi first.
  4691.  
  4692. [11-Oct-19 11:25 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4693. I feel like Sparty got an investigative role.
  4694.  
  4695. [11-Oct-19 11:25 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4696. oh sorry, I thought you didn't have a problem with it D:
  4697.  
  4698. [11-Oct-19 11:25 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4699. Nono it's fine.
  4700.  
  4701. [11-Oct-19 11:25 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4702. You're being pressured you need to respond.
  4703.  
  4704. [11-Oct-19 11:27 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4705. I'd put a dollar on someone coming back and destroying me with saying how they tracked me and investigated me and it's bullshit >.>
  4706.  
  4707. [11-Oct-19 11:27 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4708. Well
  4709.  
  4710. [11-Oct-19 11:27 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4711. Mieranda I believe claimed as the Private Eye, yeah?
  4712.  
  4713. [11-Oct-19 11:27 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4714. ah right, she did say investigate
  4715.  
  4716. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4717. so unless she's using wrong language for tracker or follower
  4718.  
  4719. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4720. yes
  4721.  
  4722. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4723. ``ok, since we're role calling. can confirm scan is the mailman. i investigated him first night.``
  4724.  
  4725. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4726. The only way to 100% confirm him as Mailman is Private Eye.
  4727.  
  4728. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4729. you're right
  4730.  
  4731. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4732. So unless there is ANOTHER Private Eye, you are safe.
  4733.  
  4734. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4735. so I haven't been investigated by private eye, neither have you
  4736.  
  4737. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4738. Well your Role Call is safe at least.
  4739.  
  4740. [11-Oct-19 11:28 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4741. oh right. Unless there's more than one
  4742.  
  4743. [11-Oct-19 11:29 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4744. I think the best way to go about this is to assume odds.
  4745.  
  4746. [11-Oct-19 11:29 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4747. dang, I should have said I'm 'another' vigilante
  4748.  
  4749. [11-Oct-19 11:29 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4750. It's unlikely there is two.
  4751.  
  4752. [11-Oct-19 11:29 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4753. So if I do get pressured to role call, I think my safest option is Gunsmith.
  4754.  
  4755. [11-Oct-19 11:30 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4756. Since there could be another Gunsmith.
  4757.  
  4758. [11-Oct-19 11:30 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4759. or that you're a vigilante and you think I'm lying lol
  4760.  
  4761. [11-Oct-19 11:30 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4762. I want to see what Rawk/Sparty start saying before anything else.
  4763.  
  4764. [11-Oct-19 11:31 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4765. And see if Illi found Sparty visit someone.
  4766.  
  4767. [11-Oct-19 11:31 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4768. yeah. I'm excused from replies because I'm being targeted. You already responded to the confusion on you and the letter
  4769.  
  4770. [11-Oct-19 11:31 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4771. Scan is asking who you are shooting.
  4772.  
  4773. [11-Oct-19 11:31 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4774. and dang
  4775.  
  4776. [11-Oct-19 11:31 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4777. That's a dumb question.
  4778.  
  4779. [11-Oct-19 11:32 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4780. Because you hit wrong two town are dead.
  4781.  
  4782. [11-Oct-19 11:32 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4783. how the heck do I answer that?
  4784.  
  4785. [11-Oct-19 11:32 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4786. right
  4787.  
  4788. [11-Oct-19 11:33 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4789. Today is probably going to end with everyone in the game being rolecalled.
  4790.  
  4791. [11-Oct-19 11:33 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4792. I answered him
  4793.  
  4794. [11-Oct-19 11:33 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4795. I can't avoid that
  4796.  
  4797. [11-Oct-19 11:34 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4798. Oh I wouldn't have said the War vet thing.
  4799.  
  4800. [11-Oct-19 11:34 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4801. It's irrelevant as it ends the same way.
  4802.  
  4803. [11-Oct-19 11:34 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4804. Both ded.
  4805.  
  4806. [11-Oct-19 11:34 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4807. legit fear though if I'm town, that's two town dead either way
  4808.  
  4809. [11-Oct-19 11:35 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4810. gonna play stupid on the war vet. Call it a mafia trap
  4811.  
  4812. [11-Oct-19 11:35 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4813. because I was against them coming out in the start of the game
  4814.  
  4815. [11-Oct-19 11:36 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4816. Careful though if someone else investigated you.
  4817.  
  4818. [11-Oct-19 11:36 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4819. They would be dead.
  4820.  
  4821. [11-Oct-19 11:36 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4822. And you could get called out.
  4823.  
  4824. [11-Oct-19 11:37 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4825. oh no, I'm not claiming vet. I mean, if someone points out that killing vet as vigilante ends the same way if I killed a town, I'll say I wanted to make sure that didn't happen because War vet is a trap for the mafia
  4826.  
  4827. [11-Oct-19 11:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4828. Ok Rawk also role called.
  4829.  
  4830. [11-Oct-19 11:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4831. We just need to know what Sparty did.
  4832.  
  4833. [11-Oct-19 11:37 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4834. And we can start spinning this.
  4835.  
  4836. [11-Oct-19 11:37 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4837. I'm gonna laugh if Sparty is Police chief
  4838.  
  4839. [11-Oct-19 11:38 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4840. I feel like somoene would have said they were directed.
  4841.  
  4842. [11-Oct-19 11:38 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4843. ILLI COME BACK
  4844.  
  4845. [11-Oct-19 11:39 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4846. He's gonna come back and say we made a mess >.>
  4847.  
  4848. [11-Oct-19 11:39 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4849. Well we didn't do much.
  4850.  
  4851. [11-Oct-19 11:39 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4852. It's been everyone else.
  4853.  
  4854. [11-Oct-19 11:39 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4855. lookit Rawk, throwin Shade
  4856.  
  4857. [11-Oct-19 11:39 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4858. And imo you played it well.
  4859.  
  4860. [11-Oct-19 11:39 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4861. If we get another town lynch tonight.
  4862.  
  4863. [11-Oct-19 11:40 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4864. This game is over imo
  4865.  
  4866. [11-Oct-19 11:40 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4867. well you helped
  4868.  
  4869. [11-Oct-19 11:40 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4870. Let's not self congratulate yet, clever players still in the game
  4871.  
  4872. [11-Oct-19 11:41 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4873. It's true, however they don't seem to be onto us.
  4874.  
  4875. [11-Oct-19 11:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4876. I'm going to say we got really lucky with no investigations landing on us.
  4877.  
  4878. [11-Oct-19 11:44 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4879. There's a vote on Sparty
  4880.  
  4881. [11-Oct-19 11:44 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4882. Unless they are lying to bait out information.
  4883.  
  4884. [11-Oct-19 11:44 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4885. go Mier go
  4886.  
  4887. [11-Oct-19 11:44 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4888. they could be, but they don't have communication. Unless there's two more masons
  4889.  
  4890. [11-Oct-19 11:45 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4891. There can't be.
  4892.  
  4893. [11-Oct-19 11:45 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4894. lol
  4895.  
  4896. [11-Oct-19 11:45 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4897. Sparty is the only town left that hasn't role claimed.
  4898.  
  4899. [11-Oct-19 11:46 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4900. Ok so Mieranda is the Private Eye, Rawk is the Follower, Illi is the Tracker.
  4901.  
  4902. [11-Oct-19 11:47 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4903. That means Sparty could be Gunsmith.
  4904.  
  4905. [11-Oct-19 11:47 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4906. Lethor is jailor
  4907.  
  4908. [11-Oct-19 11:47 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4909. Granted he could be a duplicate, however it's more unlikely.
  4910.  
  4911. [11-Oct-19 11:47 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4912. I think we have to kill an investigative role tonight.
  4913.  
  4914. [11-Oct-19 11:47 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4915. And hope one of us doesn't get jailed.
  4916.  
  4917. [11-Oct-19 11:48 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4918. Well the person doing the killing at least.
  4919.  
  4920. [11-Oct-19 11:50 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4921. what a mind game. I'm glad vigilante dies of guilt if they're wrong. I'm going to refuse to make that decision and force them to do it. Then they can decide who to jail/protect from the mafia or me :)
  4922.  
  4923. [11-Oct-19 11:50 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4924. Why is Scan asking for you to kill someone.
  4925.  
  4926. [11-Oct-19 11:50 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4927. If I was town and not scum.
  4928.  
  4929. [11-Oct-19 11:50 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4930. I would legit be calling out Scan right now.
  4931.  
  4932. [11-Oct-19 11:51 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4933. Because asking the Vig to just randomly shoot.
  4934.  
  4935. [11-Oct-19 11:51 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4936. Is so stupid.
  4937.  
  4938. [11-Oct-19 11:51 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4939. He might not have read the role. Something I've learned I can count on for most people to not read all the roles
  4940.  
  4941. [11-Oct-19 11:54 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4942. I also completely missed that he insisted
  4943.  
  4944. [11-Oct-19 11:54 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4945. how fun :)
  4946.  
  4947. [11-Oct-19 11:56 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4948. Scan's making himself suspicious imo
  4949.  
  4950. [11-Oct-19 11:56 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  4951. yeah. I'm gonna be really careful from here with it. I'll check with you before posting more to him
  4952.  
  4953. [11-Oct-19 11:56 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4954. I just need ILLI to come back so I can start playing the game.
  4955.  
  4956. [11-Oct-19 11:59 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4957. Rawk jumping on that train 😮
  4958.  
  4959. [11-Oct-19 11:59 AM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4960. There are enough town votes on Sparty, where us three could techically get him killed.
  4961.  
  4962. [11-Oct-19 12:05 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4963. Uh oh.
  4964.  
  4965. [11-Oct-19 12:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4966. I'm getting called out now.
  4967.  
  4968. [11-Oct-19 12:12 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4969. Sparty is a Jailer?
  4970.  
  4971. [11-Oct-19 12:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4972. If that's true I can rolecall as a mailman.
  4973.  
  4974. [11-Oct-19 12:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4975. Wait or is he saying he's the Captain.
  4976.  
  4977. [11-Oct-19 12:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4978. How would you not be able to receive mail.
  4979.  
  4980. [11-Oct-19 12:16 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  4981. Jailer only protects from kills.
  4982.  
  4983. [11-Oct-19 12:18 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4984. I have no idea..
  4985.  
  4986. [11-Oct-19 12:18 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4987. But Jailer is a role block
  4988.  
  4989. [11-Oct-19 12:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4990. but night one, I didn't receive mail anyway
  4991.  
  4992. [11-Oct-19 12:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4993. haha, they're on him hard now
  4994.  
  4995. [11-Oct-19 12:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4996. he could pull through still
  4997.  
  4998. [11-Oct-19 12:22 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  4999. From what Sparty said, he's been watching Scan? saw what action he did?
  5000.  
  5001. [11-Oct-19 12:23 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5002. But then it's what Rawk?
  5003.  
  5004. [11-Oct-19 12:23 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5005. It's still not on us which is great.
  5006.  
  5007. [11-Oct-19 12:23 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5008. I don't get what Sparty is trying to say.
  5009.  
  5010. [11-Oct-19 12:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5011. It's really too bad we didn't have you send a letter for alibi later
  5012.  
  5013. [11-Oct-19 12:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5014. because it looks like they're not thinking of two mailmen
  5015.  
  5016. [11-Oct-19 12:25 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5017. I mean I can just say I sent one to Illi.
  5018.  
  5019. [11-Oct-19 12:26 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5020. yeah, I know. But it'd be even better if it weren't one of us
  5021.  
  5022. [11-Oct-19 12:26 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5023. his statement though, 'someone else recieved mail night 2'
  5024.  
  5025. [11-Oct-19 12:26 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5026. he only knows that Scan did his action
  5027.  
  5028. [11-Oct-19 12:26 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5029. The only way this makes sense to me is if Sparty is the Police Captain.
  5030.  
  5031. [11-Oct-19 12:27 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5032. yep
  5033.  
  5034. [11-Oct-19 12:27 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5035. And he directed who to send mail too N1.
  5036.  
  5037. [11-Oct-19 12:27 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5038. Which was me.
  5039.  
  5040. [11-Oct-19 12:27 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5041. Wait wtf
  5042.  
  5043. [11-Oct-19 12:27 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5044. because he wouldn't know I 'couldn't receive mail night one', so my guess is he directed me to be roleblocked or he had scan role blocked. But he also wouldn't know if they did or didn't
  5045.  
  5046. [11-Oct-19 12:27 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5047. He's the friendly neighbor?
  5048.  
  5049. [11-Oct-19 12:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5050. I'm so fucking lost now.
  5051.  
  5052. [11-Oct-19 12:28 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5053. How can he make that statement and then claim to be the friendly neighbor?
  5054.  
  5055. [11-Oct-19 12:28 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5056. he can't?
  5057.  
  5058. [11-Oct-19 12:28 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5059. it wouldn't tell him anything
  5060.  
  5061. [11-Oct-19 12:30 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5062. ok.. so Tzo is saying he recieved a message from friendly neighbor that makes him think Sparty isn't scum...
  5063.  
  5064. [11-Oct-19 12:30 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5065. but thta's pretty much all it can say, is a name, and I'm town, right?
  5066.  
  5067. [11-Oct-19 12:30 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5068. "Each night the Friendly Neighbor can send a predefined message along the words of "I'm X, and I am town" to a player of their choice."
  5069.  
  5070. [11-Oct-19 12:30 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5071. So Sparty sent to Tzo.
  5072.  
  5073. [11-Oct-19 12:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5074. but then... how would Sparty know who got mail when
  5075.  
  5076. [11-Oct-19 12:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5077. But how can Sparty then say "I can confirm that Eloriya was not able to receive mail night one."
  5078.  
  5079. [11-Oct-19 12:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5080. Yeah wtf
  5081.  
  5082. [11-Oct-19 12:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5083. I'm so lost.
  5084.  
  5085. [11-Oct-19 12:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5086. is he throwing shit?
  5087.  
  5088. [11-Oct-19 12:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5089. amg. He's just fishing isn't he
  5090.  
  5091. [11-Oct-19 12:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5092. I wonder if anyone will point out that mailman can impersonate Friendly Neighbor
  5093.  
  5094. [11-Oct-19 12:33 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5095. amg, *what* is Sparty getting at
  5096.  
  5097. [11-Oct-19 12:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5098. I have no clue I'm so confused.
  5099.  
  5100. [11-Oct-19 12:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5101. Damnit we really need Illi here.
  5102.  
  5103. [11-Oct-19 12:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5104. yes?
  5105.  
  5106. {Attachments}
  5107. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/632254943507513364/explain_to_us_mortals.PNG
  5108.  
  5109. [11-Oct-19 12:36 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5110. Yeah I think it's fine.
  5111.  
  5112. [11-Oct-19 12:37 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5113. Mier is after you now
  5114.  
  5115. [11-Oct-19 12:44 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5116. This is sooo confusing, I love it
  5117.  
  5118. [11-Oct-19 12:45 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5119. Seriously, I know who the mafia are, and *I'm* confused
  5120.  
  5121. [11-Oct-19 12:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5122. So Sparty is Neighbor.
  5123.  
  5124. [11-Oct-19 12:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5125. ahh, go Sparty. lol
  5126.  
  5127. [11-Oct-19 12:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5128. That means the only way to 100% confirm someone is Scum is Mieranda going after you E.
  5129.  
  5130. [11-Oct-19 12:47 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5131. Or if Rawk follows whoever is doing the killing.
  5132.  
  5133. [11-Oct-19 12:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5134. At this point I could claim Gunsmith since there is nothing to disprove me.
  5135.  
  5136. [11-Oct-19 12:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5137. And literally just get someone axed from the game.
  5138.  
  5139. [11-Oct-19 12:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5140. Maybe we will save that for tomorrow though. 🙂
  5141.  
  5142. [11-Oct-19 12:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5143. yeah, I think we tied up the loose ends a bit for now
  5144.  
  5145. [11-Oct-19 12:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5146. they all suspect each other, and role claiming didn't help them as much as it did us I think lol
  5147.  
  5148. [11-Oct-19 12:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5149. Unless this gets turned.
  5150.  
  5151. [11-Oct-19 12:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5152. But at this point.
  5153.  
  5154. [11-Oct-19 12:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5155. I don't think it is.
  5156.  
  5157. [11-Oct-19 12:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5158. oh it certainly could. Mier is looking at you now
  5159.  
  5160. [11-Oct-19 12:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5161. I'm making an "analytical post" I will get your opinion on it.
  5162.  
  5163. [11-Oct-19 12:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5164. perfect
  5165.  
  5166. [11-Oct-19 12:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5167. Mier sort of stopped though going on me.
  5168.  
  5169. [11-Oct-19 12:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5170. And Sparty defended what I said.
  5171.  
  5172. [11-Oct-19 12:50 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5173. Which looks good because he's a confirmed town.
  5174.  
  5175. [11-Oct-19 12:51 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5176. In spite of that, there's still a vote on him
  5177.  
  5178. [11-Oct-19 12:53 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5179. and me, which doesn't make sense with the evidence
  5180.  
  5181. [11-Oct-19 12:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5182. I think people are just not unvoting cause no reason to.
  5183.  
  5184. [11-Oct-19 12:56 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5185. Sparty really thinks Scan is scum
  5186.  
  5187. [11-Oct-19 12:56 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5188. Good
  5189.  
  5190. [11-Oct-19 12:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5191. Also
  5192.  
  5193. [11-Oct-19 12:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5194. I may be about.
  5195.  
  5196. [11-Oct-19 12:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5197. To throw Rawk under a bus.
  5198.  
  5199. [11-Oct-19 12:57 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5200. :o
  5201.  
  5202. [11-Oct-19 12:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5203. Real hard.
  5204.  
  5205. [11-Oct-19 12:57 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5206. the double hammer?
  5207.  
  5208. [11-Oct-19 12:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5209. More then that.
  5210.  
  5211. [11-Oct-19 12:57 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5212. Now that I know I haven't been investigated.
  5213.  
  5214. [11-Oct-19 12:58 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5215. I can go hard.
  5216.  
  5217. [11-Oct-19 12:58 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5218. oh man
  5219.  
  5220. [11-Oct-19 12:59 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5221. I'm still wondering how Sparty thinks I shouldn't have gotten mail night one
  5222.  
  5223. [11-Oct-19 12:59 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5224. and Scan saying I didn't get my letter
  5225.  
  5226. [11-Oct-19 12:59 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5227.  
  5228.  
  5229. {Attachments}
  5230. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/632261015777705994/unknown.png
  5231.  
  5232. [11-Oct-19 12:59 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5233. I think it was a bait.
  5234.  
  5235. [11-Oct-19 12:59 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5236. why would he think I didn't get my letter though?
  5237.  
  5238. [11-Oct-19 12:59 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5239. No one said they jailed me
  5240.  
  5241. [11-Oct-19 12:59 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5242. or blocked me
  5243.  
  5244. [11-Oct-19 01:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5245. I think he was legit just baiting.
  5246.  
  5247. [11-Oct-19 01:00 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5248. And had a fallback because he's the Neighbor.
  5249.  
  5250. [11-Oct-19 01:00 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5251. ok, that explains Sparty, but what about Scan?
  5252.  
  5253. [11-Oct-19 01:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5254. why would he think I didn't get the letter he sent night two
  5255.  
  5256. [11-Oct-19 01:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5257. Because they're being r-tarded.
  5258.  
  5259. [11-Oct-19 01:01 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5260. I think people are just misunderstanding everywhere.
  5261.  
  5262. [11-Oct-19 01:02 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5263. I think your post looks good
  5264.  
  5265. [11-Oct-19 01:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5266. I think I should vote as well.
  5267.  
  5268. [11-Oct-19 01:04 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5269. On Rawk.
  5270.  
  5271. [11-Oct-19 01:04 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5272. after a post like that, it'd make sense
  5273.  
  5274. [11-Oct-19 01:04 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5275. wait
  5276.  
  5277. [11-Oct-19 01:04 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5278. did Sparty actually say his role?
  5279.  
  5280. [11-Oct-19 01:04 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5281. or was it just implied
  5282.  
  5283. [11-Oct-19 01:04 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5284. Implied through Tzo
  5285.  
  5286. [11-Oct-19 01:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5287. people might note that in your post, because obviously Mier missed the implication
  5288.  
  5289. [11-Oct-19 01:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5290. lol, Mier and Rawk both think it's Sparty
  5291.  
  5292. [11-Oct-19 01:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5293. I'm really happy with this post.
  5294.  
  5295. [11-Oct-19 01:07 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5296. It's my style of analytical post from previous games, and I haven't been investigated so it cannot be contested.
  5297.  
  5298. [11-Oct-19 01:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5299. Easy there, Titanic
  5300.  
  5301. [11-Oct-19 01:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5302. D :
  5303.  
  5304. [11-Oct-19 01:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5305. I just don't like counting the chickens early, ok!
  5306.  
  5307. [11-Oct-19 01:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5308. Lol I know.
  5309.  
  5310. [11-Oct-19 01:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5311. I think it just works really well in our favor.
  5312.  
  5313. [11-Oct-19 01:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5314. I agree, it looks good
  5315.  
  5316. [11-Oct-19 01:08 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5317. If only Illi didn't have a life.
  5318.  
  5319. [11-Oct-19 01:09 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5320. Oh shit I misread he said first day.
  5321.  
  5322. [11-Oct-19 01:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5323. he hasn't shown up on the forums at all, and as someone posted that you have, I'm sure they're watching
  5324.  
  5325. [11-Oct-19 01:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5326. that's alright, easy mistake.
  5327.  
  5328. [11-Oct-19 01:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5329. if it's noted, just admit and backtrack
  5330.  
  5331. [11-Oct-19 01:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5332. well you stirred him up lol
  5333.  
  5334. [11-Oct-19 01:13 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5335. 5 quick posts in a row. Nothing says panic and guilt more than that lol
  5336.  
  5337. [11-Oct-19 01:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5338. This is fun.
  5339.  
  5340. [11-Oct-19 01:29 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5341. You got another vote. hahaha
  5342.  
  5343. [11-Oct-19 01:29 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5344. I mean a vote
  5345.  
  5346. [11-Oct-19 01:29 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5347. Mier still refusing to note that Sparty is supposed to be Neighbor
  5348.  
  5349. [11-Oct-19 01:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5350. If this gets close.
  5351.  
  5352. [11-Oct-19 01:31 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5353. I may do something to trade 1:1
  5354.  
  5355. [11-Oct-19 01:32 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5356. If they follow Miers list, they'll jail you. One of us will have to kill, and obviously, I won't be killing Illi
  5357.  
  5358. [11-Oct-19 01:33 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5359. Role claim Gunsmith, say I held onto it because I didn't want scum to know all the available roles, say I investigated Rawk and he came back as having a Gun when he claimed to be an investigator. Didn't want to reveal right away because obviously I wanted to find connections and who he pointed fingers at first.
  5360.  
  5361. [11-Oct-19 01:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5362. That's one way to play it.
  5363.  
  5364. [11-Oct-19 01:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5365. Or I can say Mailman and that I sent Illi a letter.
  5366.  
  5367. [11-Oct-19 01:34 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5368. This implicates Illi though.
  5369.  
  5370. [11-Oct-19 01:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5371. Either of those looks good to me, only problem is that Illi hasn't checked in at all
  5372.  
  5373. [11-Oct-19 01:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5374. Yeah I know.
  5375.  
  5376. [11-Oct-19 01:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5377. which isn't a problem, if someone cares to note it
  5378.  
  5379. [11-Oct-19 01:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5380. I just don't want to look like I'm defending him
  5381.  
  5382. [11-Oct-19 01:35 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5383. Don't bring him up.
  5384.  
  5385. [11-Oct-19 01:36 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5386. all of this has occured over the span of a few hours, and people have jobs. I'm on a 3 day PTO though.
  5387.  
  5388. [11-Oct-19 01:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5389. Yeah it's silly.
  5390.  
  5391. [11-Oct-19 01:45 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5392. Do I just pull the Gunsmith trigger and go down in a blaze of glory?
  5393.  
  5394. [11-Oct-19 01:47 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5395. I don't think you have much choice at this point
  5396.  
  5397. [11-Oct-19 01:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5398. it's either mailman or gunsmith
  5399.  
  5400. [11-Oct-19 01:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5401. but you need to pick one or they're going to lynch you
  5402.  
  5403. [11-Oct-19 01:48 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5404. The problem is Illi isn't around to verify mailman.
  5405.  
  5406. [11-Oct-19 01:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5407. that could buy us a stall though
  5408.  
  5409. [11-Oct-19 01:48 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5410. they have to wait for him to confirm or deny
  5411.  
  5412. [11-Oct-19 01:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5413. Or claim vigilante and say I'm lying hahahah
  5414.  
  5415. [11-Oct-19 01:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5416. Nah
  5417.  
  5418. [11-Oct-19 01:49 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5419. That's worse imo.
  5420.  
  5421. [11-Oct-19 01:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5422. well yeah, buys us nothing. But it'd be fun if we were sinking anyway
  5423.  
  5424. [11-Oct-19 01:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5425. People play this game so weird.
  5426.  
  5427. [11-Oct-19 01:51 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5428. interesting that Scan admitted himself and Rawk could be scum with the role calls, and they're both trying to call you out
  5429.  
  5430. [11-Oct-19 01:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5431. I've been pro town this entire game and they think I'm scum, just because I don't want to rolecall.
  5432.  
  5433. [11-Oct-19 01:51 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5434. And rolecalling to get the entire layout on the table helps scum.
  5435.  
  5436. [11-Oct-19 01:52 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5437. oh yes, it's been very helpful to us
  5438.  
  5439. [11-Oct-19 01:52 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5440. But people play with no consistency so it doesn't matter what you do.
  5441.  
  5442. [11-Oct-19 01:54 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5443. Idk it's tough, maybe I don't panic because Sparty doesn't think so yet.
  5444.  
  5445. [11-Oct-19 02:01 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5446. ah, the rest comes out. Interesting
  5447.  
  5448. [11-Oct-19 02:02 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5449. if we'd tried to kill Mier like I wanted, she'd not have died
  5450.  
  5451. [11-Oct-19 02:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5452. Yup.
  5453.  
  5454. [11-Oct-19 02:03 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5455. Was jailed.
  5456.  
  5457. [11-Oct-19 02:03 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5458. Crazy
  5459.  
  5460. [11-Oct-19 02:03 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5461. why on earth would they have chosen Mier
  5462.  
  5463. [11-Oct-19 02:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5464. Can we do something with this?
  5465.  
  5466. {Attachments}
  5467. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/629302334144380939/632277493843230741/none_of_you_are_consistent_mafia.PNG
  5468.  
  5469. [11-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5470. ah, nvm, I forgot you're working on a post
  5471.  
  5472. [11-Oct-19 02:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5473. Yeah I'm probably just going to roleclaim gunsmith.
  5474.  
  5475. [11-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5476. you better hurry or I'm going to have to hammer you
  5477.  
  5478. [11-Oct-19 02:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5479. Lets see who I can convince.
  5480.  
  5481. [11-Oct-19 02:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5482. Mier swapped to you
  5483.  
  5484. [11-Oct-19 02:06 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5485. I need 2 more.
  5486.  
  5487. [11-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5488. uh
  5489.  
  5490. [11-Oct-19 02:11 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5491. I told you to hurry, but you dead
  5492.  
  5493. [11-Oct-19 02:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5494. rip
  5495.  
  5496. [11-Oct-19 02:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5497. oh well
  5498.  
  5499. [11-Oct-19 02:13 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5500. Game goes almost to the full day first 2 days.
  5501.  
  5502. [11-Oct-19 02:14 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5503. Then instantly in 5 hours the next.
  5504.  
  5505. [11-Oct-19 02:14 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5506. yeah, if I'd been at work they'd have heard nothing from me all day too
  5507.  
  5508. [11-Oct-19 02:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5509. Was literally typing up a response.
  5510.  
  5511. [11-Oct-19 02:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5512. Oh well, I think you guys are in a good position.
  5513.  
  5514. [11-Oct-19 02:15 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5515. Or maybe not cause you didn't vote idk.
  5516.  
  5517. [11-Oct-19 02:15 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5518. no, I think it's over now. We're in twilight, not supposed to post, and they're gonna jail me or Illi
  5519.  
  5520. [11-Oct-19 02:15 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5521. and roleblock
  5522.  
  5523. [11-Oct-19 02:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5524. Mier's post should be illegal!
  5525.  
  5526. [11-Oct-19 02:16 PM] Zarania#5789
  5527. `- After a successful lynch the game will enter a twilight phase. At this point the vote is locked in. Posting is still allowed *until* I make my post and night begins.`
  5528.  
  5529. [11-Oct-19 02:17 PM] CloudedInSanity#1431
  5530. Yeah it's pretty silly that the game can be over instantly because one person on your team is afk
  5531.  
  5532. [11-Oct-19 02:17 PM] Zarania#5789
  5533. Sorry Cloudes, you dead now
  5534.  
  5535. [11-Oct-19 02:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5536. Well Illi, that leaves it ok for you to properly claim I guess, since you'll come back as Tracker. We can't kill Mier I'd guess. So I don't know what to do now
  5537.  
  5538. [11-Oct-19 02:35 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5539. Chances are, they jail Mier or Rawk, or jail one of us. If I do the kill, you can be in the clear for Tracker, since you won't have visited anyone during the night. The question is, who will they jail.
  5540.  
  5541. [11-Oct-19 04:06 PM] sei#0242
  5542. well, that sucks
  5543.  
  5544. [11-Oct-19 04:07 PM] sei#0242
  5545. I'm busy for a day and miss out an entire day in game
  5546.  
  5547. [11-Oct-19 04:07 PM] sei#0242
  5548. after the previous days went like 3 days
  5549.  
  5550. [11-Oct-19 04:07 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5551. yep, it went by stupid fast
  5552.  
  5553. [11-Oct-19 04:07 PM] sei#0242
  5554. fwiw, tracking on sparty came back as him visiting tzo
  5555.  
  5556. [11-Oct-19 04:07 PM] sei#0242
  5557. so I guess that checks out, but probably wouldn't have changed much
  5558.  
  5559. [11-Oct-19 04:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5560. well, at least you can use it to claim and look town maybe?
  5561.  
  5562. [11-Oct-19 04:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5563. we have got to make suspicion on someone
  5564.  
  5565. [11-Oct-19 04:08 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5566. even if it's to buss me next day phase and you go on alone
  5567.  
  5568. [11-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5569. we just have to pick a target that isn't protected, and I guess I have to try for the kill
  5570.  
  5571. [11-Oct-19 04:09 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5572. because I claimed Vigilante anyway
  5573.  
  5574. [11-Oct-19 04:10 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5575. and when it's obviously the wrong target, you can call me and get a lynch maybe
  5576.  
  5577. [11-Oct-19 04:16 PM] sei#0242
  5578. wow that moved fast. Cloudes didn't do a great job of deflecting though
  5579.  
  5580. [11-Oct-19 04:16 PM] sei#0242
  5581. So it looks like they are suspicious of me
  5582.  
  5583. [11-Oct-19 04:17 PM] sei#0242
  5584. I am likely going to be investigated by a private eye
  5585.  
  5586. [11-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5587. he took too long to claim, but neither of us expected the last two votes to drop in less than 10 minutes
  5588.  
  5589. [11-Oct-19 04:17 PM] sei#0242
  5590. so that would tell them that I am a tracker
  5591.  
  5592. [11-Oct-19 04:17 PM] sei#0242
  5593. I think I need to track someone again tonight so I have something to go off of
  5594.  
  5595. [11-Oct-19 04:17 PM] sei#0242
  5596. And you need to do the kill
  5597.  
  5598. [11-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5599. yep
  5600.  
  5601. [11-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5602. so who's the target? Rawk or Mier will be jailed
  5603.  
  5604. [11-Oct-19 04:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5605. or one of us will be
  5606.  
  5607. [11-Oct-19 07:10 PM] sei#0242
  5608. Sparty being friendly neighbor really screwed us
  5609.  
  5610. [11-Oct-19 07:10 PM] sei#0242
  5611. I honestly don't see a way we win at this point lol
  5612.  
  5613. [11-Oct-19 07:13 PM] sei#0242
  5614. I think we try to kill Lethor and not risk the 50-50 of him jailing Rawk/Mieranda.
  5615.  
  5616. [11-Oct-19 07:13 PM] sei#0242
  5617. Which takes away that 50-50 chance the following night
  5618.  
  5619. [11-Oct-19 07:14 PM] sei#0242
  5620. And then we need to open up the day phase accusing rawk of still being scum
  5621.  
  5622. [11-Oct-19 07:15 PM] sei#0242
  5623. I need to play really pro-town. E, you're probably lost. The best we can hope for is I bus you if it comes to that and I try to finish the game playing super pro-town
  5624.  
  5625. [11-Oct-19 07:16 PM] sei#0242
  5626. It sounds like there are no gunsmiths in the game? Which may be the only saving grace at this point
  5627.  
  5628. [11-Oct-19 07:29 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5629. yeah, I said earlier you should probably just bus me as soon as day opens. Because I bet they'll track me
  5630.  
  5631. [12-Oct-19 11:11 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  5632. so we intend to kill Lethor by my hand then? I think once the results are in, you should just go ahead and come out against me, see what it can get you. If you come back and see this and agree on the kill choice, then just let Zar know who you're tracking and we can go with it. Just make sure it's at a point you'll be able to actually post when the phase opens, so we don't have a 1 hour day where I just get insta lynched and we don't get any input :p
  5633.  
  5634. [12-Oct-19 11:31 AM] sei#0242
  5635. Zar, help me out and let me know when the day will start 😛
  5636.  
  5637. [12-Oct-19 11:32 AM] sei#0242
  5638. I'll be working all day again today so won't be able to periodically check, but can more easily check if I have a better time window
  5639.  
  5640. [12-Oct-19 11:32 AM] sei#0242
  5641. Maybe I'll just wait to submit action until almost the deadline so it starts in the evening
  5642.  
  5643. [12-Oct-19 12:49 PM] Zarania#5789
  5644. I can start the day whenever you all want I'd there is a scheduling issue
  5645.  
  5646. [12-Oct-19 05:05 PM] sei#0242
  5647. I should be good whenever now
  5648.  
  5649. [12-Oct-19 05:05 PM] sei#0242
  5650. E will kill Lethor
  5651.  
  5652. [12-Oct-19 05:05 PM] sei#0242
  5653. I will track Rawk
  5654.  
  5655. [12-Oct-19 05:05 PM] Zarania#5789
  5656. Confirmed
  5657.  
  5658. [12-Oct-19 05:08 PM] Zarania#5789
  5659. Will be when I get home, maybe half an hour
  5660.  
  5661. [12-Oct-19 05:36 PM] sei#0242
  5662. Rawk investigated you E
  5663.  
  5664. [12-Oct-19 06:12 PM] sei#0242
  5665. I think you just have to do your best to strongly turn it around on Rawk
  5666.  
  5667. [12-Oct-19 06:13 PM] sei#0242
  5668. say he's just making it up or something and hopefully others bite since ppl have been suspicious of him too. Ideally we can get through one more day with both of us
  5669.  
  5670. [12-Oct-19 08:15 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5671. but.. if I really am vigilante, I'd be dead today since they know I killed lol
  5672.  
  5673. [12-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5674. and Lethor was obviously town
  5675.  
  5676. [12-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5677. so, I'd have died
  5678.  
  5679. [12-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5680. how am I gonna get outta that?
  5681.  
  5682. [12-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5683. bus meee
  5684.  
  5685. [12-Oct-19 08:16 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5686. You have to
  5687.  
  5688. [12-Oct-19 08:17 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5689. I mean, unless I can get them to believe Rawk isn't what he says
  5690.  
  5691. [12-Oct-19 08:25 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5692. haha, I gave it a shot. What do ya think, Zar? Snowballs chance in heck anyone will buy it?
  5693.  
  5694. [12-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Zarania#5789
  5695. You know I can't comment on that.
  5696.  
  5697. [12-Oct-19 08:27 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5698. well, make note of what you think and let me know later ;)
  5699.  
  5700. [12-Oct-19 09:27 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5701. For anyone reading this later, I don't expect this to work lol. If you buy it, shame on you.
  5702.  
  5703. [12-Oct-19 09:40 PM] sei#0242
  5704. Why did you claim vanilla town after claiming vigilante? It may have been easier to get out of it by just saying Rawk is lying that you did that
  5705.  
  5706. [12-Oct-19 09:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5707. because I'd die for having killed someone
  5708.  
  5709. [12-Oct-19 09:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5710. well, I see what you mean I guess
  5711.  
  5712. [12-Oct-19 09:41 PM] sei#0242
  5713. But you could've just said you didn't kill anyone
  5714.  
  5715. [12-Oct-19 09:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5716. bleh
  5717.  
  5718. [12-Oct-19 09:41 PM] sei#0242
  5719. And Rawk is lying about saying you did
  5720.  
  5721. [12-Oct-19 09:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5722. yeah, mistakes
  5723.  
  5724. [12-Oct-19 09:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5725. was a long shot anyway
  5726.  
  5727. [12-Oct-19 09:42 PM] sei#0242
  5728. Yeah, I mean Mieranda voted on you before you even said anything so would've been hard to recover at that point
  5729.  
  5730. [12-Oct-19 09:44 PM] sei#0242
  5731. I guess I'll confirm Rawk's invest. unfortunately I didn't beat him to it so now it looks like I'm just following
  5732.  
  5733. [12-Oct-19 09:46 PM] sei#0242
  5734. Night 2 we killed Eli right?
  5735.  
  5736. [12-Oct-19 09:48 PM] sei#0242
  5737. And Scan sent you the message?
  5738.  
  5739. [12-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5740. yeah, I got the letter night 2
  5741.  
  5742. [12-Oct-19 09:49 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5743. so yeah, Eli I think
  5744.  
  5745. [12-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5746. as much as I'd like to see if they believe me, I think you should get a vote on me
  5747.  
  5748. [12-Oct-19 10:04 PM] sei#0242
  5749. Oh, I will
  5750.  
  5751. [12-Oct-19 10:04 PM] sei#0242
  5752. I just called you scum lol
  5753.  
  5754. [12-Oct-19 10:04 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5755. because no one is gonna buy my load of crap lol
  5756.  
  5757. [12-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5758. I know, I saw
  5759.  
  5760. [12-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5761. but no vote in the post!
  5762.  
  5763. [12-Oct-19 10:05 PM] sei#0242
  5764. I am hoping to get some more discussion going first
  5765.  
  5766. [12-Oct-19 10:05 PM] sei#0242
  5767. I want Mier to respond to me
  5768.  
  5769. [12-Oct-19 10:05 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5770. if you wait too long though, it'll just look like you're doing it because you have to
  5771.  
  5772. [12-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5773. she has been watching
  5774.  
  5775. [12-Oct-19 10:06 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5776. so maybe she will
  5777.  
  5778. [12-Oct-19 10:19 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5779. will you be able to be active tomorrow?
  5780.  
  5781. [12-Oct-19 10:20 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5782. I expect to be dead shortly, but I'll be working tomorrow
  5783.  
  5784. [12-Oct-19 10:20 PM] sei#0242
  5785. Same as today
  5786.  
  5787. [12-Oct-19 10:20 PM] sei#0242
  5788. I'll be at work all day
  5789.  
  5790. [12-Oct-19 10:21 PM] sei#0242
  5791. may have time here and there to check
  5792.  
  5793. [12-Oct-19 10:27 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5794. gg Illi, good luck!
  5795.  
  5796. [12-Oct-19 10:27 PM] sei#0242
  5797. still one more vote
  5798.  
  5799. [12-Oct-19 10:27 PM] sei#0242
  5800. you're not gone yet lol
  5801.  
  5802. [12-Oct-19 10:27 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5803. yeah, but I'm gonna get it, you know I am
  5804.  
  5805. [12-Oct-19 10:27 PM] sei#0242
  5806. yeah, yeah you are lol
  5807.  
  5808. [12-Oct-19 10:28 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5809. it'd be hilarious if I made someone doubt it for a minute though
  5810.  
  5811. [12-Oct-19 10:28 PM] sei#0242
  5812. I think if you didn't claim vanilla town there may have been a chance
  5813.  
  5814. [12-Oct-19 10:28 PM] sei#0242
  5815. because it'd be your word vs rawk's
  5816.  
  5817. [12-Oct-19 10:28 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5818. yeah, I panicked
  5819.  
  5820. [12-Oct-19 10:29 PM] sei#0242
  5821. and rawk has already shown he can spew bs in these games
  5822.  
  5823. [12-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5824. I think Sparty has to be the hammer now?
  5825.  
  5826. [12-Oct-19 10:30 PM] sei#0242
  5827. I'm hoping him or Tzo
  5828.  
  5829. [12-Oct-19 10:30 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5830. ah, right Tzo
  5831.  
  5832. [12-Oct-19 10:30 PM] sei#0242
  5833. gives me something to go on with Scan
  5834.  
  5835. [12-Oct-19 10:30 PM] sei#0242
  5836. but I guess either way it doesn't matter too much. Can just accuse him of bussing if it comes to that
  5837.  
  5838. [12-Oct-19 10:31 PM] sei#0242
  5839. I'm thinking I kill Rawk tonight
  5840.  
  5841. [12-Oct-19 10:31 PM] sei#0242
  5842. because then he can't follow me and out me for killing
  5843.  
  5844. [12-Oct-19 10:31 PM] sei#0242
  5845. and it seems like there are no gunsmiths
  5846.  
  5847. [12-Oct-19 10:31 PM] sei#0242
  5848. so no one will be able to confirm me as mafia
  5849.  
  5850. [12-Oct-19 10:31 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5851. yeah, at least they can't jail and you don't have to worry about that
  5852.  
  5853. [12-Oct-19 10:31 PM] sei#0242
  5854. so it will just come down to if I can convince ppl of scan and mier
  5855.  
  5856. [12-Oct-19 10:32 PM] sei#0242
  5857. But even then I don't think I can win it? Because it would eventually come down to sparty-tzo-me
  5858.  
  5859. [12-Oct-19 10:32 PM] sei#0242
  5860. hm. maybe not
  5861.  
  5862. [12-Oct-19 10:33 PM] sei#0242
  5863. If I kill Rawk tonight. Then we lynch scan tomorrow. Then kill sparty/tzo the next night. Then try to get sparty/tzo to vote mier
  5864.  
  5865. [12-Oct-19 10:33 PM] sei#0242
  5866. that would have to be the path to take. but will likely not happen
  5867.  
  5868. [12-Oct-19 10:33 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5869. just don't belly-up. In it to the bitter end
  5870.  
  5871. [12-Oct-19 10:33 PM] sei#0242
  5872. yep
  5873.  
  5874. [12-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5875. I once won as a serial killer after all mafia were dead
  5876.  
  5877. [12-Oct-19 10:34 PM] sei#0242
  5878. lol
  5879.  
  5880. [12-Oct-19 10:34 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5881. and you've got a shot
  5882.  
  5883. [12-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5884. the wait is killing me
  5885.  
  5886. [12-Oct-19 10:40 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5887. https://gph.is/2NV82sl
  5888.  
  5889. {Embed}
  5890. https://giphy.com/gifs/3D3kkF4aBn8xxFn4nj
  5891. https://media0.giphy.com/media/3D3kkF4aBn8xxFn4nj/giphy_s.gif?cid=73b8f7b1f2603d9b05035f9e69bfe93adff9e0687e3e8c16&rid=giphy_s.gif
  5892.  
  5893. [12-Oct-19 11:01 PM] sei#0242
  5894. Scan coming to your defense lol
  5895.  
  5896. [12-Oct-19 11:27 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5897. Be careful they're not baiting out the other mafia
  5898.  
  5899. [12-Oct-19 11:28 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5900. Cause no way they beleive me... Right?
  5901.  
  5902. [12-Oct-19 11:41 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5903. Illi, i forgot to tell you i got a letter
  5904.  
  5905. [12-Oct-19 11:42 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5906. You wake up to a message in your mailbox:
  5907. I dont trust rawk, I'd pop a cap in that ass. Keep an eye on the dreadlord too!
  5908.  
  5909. [12-Oct-19 11:49 PM] sei#0242
  5910. sounds like scan
  5911.  
  5912. [12-Oct-19 11:50 PM] Eloriyas#9635
  5913. Is for sure
  5914.  
  5915. [13-Oct-19 08:03 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  5916. I'm still alive. HOW
  5917.  
  5918. [13-Oct-19 11:46 AM] Eloriyas#9635
  5919. Ah ah ah ah, stayin alive, stayin alive.
  5920.  
  5921. [13-Oct-19 12:59 PM] Zarania#5789
  5922. Not anymore.
  5923.  
  5924. [13-Oct-19 01:00 PM] Zarania#5789
  5925. All you now Illi
  5926.  
  5927. [13-Oct-19 01:18 PM] sei#0242
  5928. https://tenor.com/view/gangs-all-here-spongebob-lonely-gif-9619934
  5929.  
  5930. {Embed}
  5931. https://tenor.com/view/gangs-all-here-spongebob-lonely-gif-9619934
  5932. https://media.tenor.co/images/c08ceefe7de0e0c89eb68c3fb07242cf/tenor.png
  5933.  
  5934. [13-Oct-19 01:20 PM] sei#0242
  5935. I'll kill Rawk
  5936.  
  5937. [13-Oct-19 01:36 PM] Zarania#5789
  5938. Confirmed
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