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- Friday Night Chatroom 12/14/2014
- [18:07] == MerryBossMan_ [4cbcfdf4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.188.253.244] has joined #mmrpg
- [18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [+o MerryBossMan_] by DededeTheKING
- [18:08] <@MerryBossMan_> Wa?
- [18:08] <@MerryBossMan_> Why are there so many mods?
- [18:08] <@DededeTheKING> dont go too far with your powers
- [18:08] <@MikeyMcScrooge> *points at DDD*
- [18:08] * TheDoc points at DeDeDe
- [18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o TheDoc] by MerryBossMan_
- [18:08] <@DededeTheKING> .just for topic brainstorming.
- [18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o MikeyMcScrooge] by MerryBossMan_
- [18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o MerryBossMan] by MerryBossMan_
- [18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o IceTailsMK4] by MerryBossMan_
- [18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o IceTailsMK4] by DededeTheKING
- [18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o CHAOS_FANTAZY] by MerryBossMan_
- [18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o DededeTheKING] by MerryBossMan_
- [18:08] <@MerryBossMan_> There.
- [18:08] <DededeTheKING> Gah.
- [18:08] <@MerryBossMan_> If I need to mod anyone else, I will.
- [18:08] <DededeTheKING> dude.
- [18:08] <MikeyMcScrooge> Heh.
- [18:08] <DededeTheKING> i was here first..
- [18:09] <@MerryBossMan_> King, you just showed why you can't be a mod.
- [18:09] <IceTailsMK4> One mod for the session ought to be enough.
- [18:09] <DededeTheKING> I guess your right.
- [18:09] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright.
- [18:09] <DededeTheKING> I just wanted to brainstorm, for our topic
- [18:09] <@MerryBossMan_> Now that I'm back where I should be.
- [18:09] == MerryBossMan_ changed the topic of #mmrpg to: Sunday Night Chatroom 12/14/2014
- [18:09] <MikeyMcScrooge> Let the ideas and discussion floweth!
- [18:10] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright.
- [18:10] <DededeTheKING> Me first?
- [18:10] <@MerryBossMan_> Tails, you can still go ahead with your idea.
- [18:10] <DededeTheKING> oh, ok.
- [18:10] <@MerryBossMan_> Adrian will still read this.
- [18:10] <DededeTheKING> after...
- [18:10] == MerryBossMan [46c2c0e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.194.192.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
- [18:10] <DededeTheKING> 18:09.
- [18:10] <IceTailsMK4> Well, you're just going to tell him?
- [18:11] <@MerryBossMan_> Of course.
- [18:11] <IceTailsMK4> Cause we discussed it already.
- [18:11] <IceTailsMK4> Unless you want me just to mention it again on here?
- [18:11] <TheDoc> Yes :)
- [18:11] <@MerryBossMan_> Do what you want, I'm not you.
- [18:11] <DededeTheKING> ok so...
- [18:11] <IceTailsMK4> Well, it concerns the alt skins for those of you curious.
- [18:11] <DededeTheKING> i guess i will get a 4 minute speach about bla bla bla
- [18:11] <@MerryBossMan_> My idea won't be ready until next week.
- [18:11] <DededeTheKING> just...
- [18:12] <IceTailsMK4> Adrian said a while back, though I cannot remember what happened exactly...
- [18:12] <@MerryBossMan_> I've been busy with SOOOO much, as I told Doc and Mike.
- [18:12] <DededeTheKING> well.
- [18:12] <IceTailsMK4> That he would do GS skins for the Prototype, since they are easy enough to do.
- [18:12] <DededeTheKING> maybe we could brainstorm COSTUME IDEAS!
- [18:12] <DededeTheKING> brb
- [18:12] <IceTailsMK4> It would NOT be that hard to turn them to GB because the GB skins are really just two or three colors.
- [18:12] <@MerryBossMan_> And I already have most of them done, of course.
- [18:13] <@MerryBossMan_> But Adrian would have to manually put it in, as he said before.
- [18:13] <IceTailsMK4> I don't see why we can't have both GB and GS skins on the Prototype.
- [18:13] <IceTailsMK4> There's already tons of alts planned.
- [18:13] <IceTailsMK4> And the main work is just doing the recolors, isn't it?
- [18:13] <MikeyMcScrooge> Probably not.
- [18:13] <IceTailsMK4> I don't know exactly how it works on his end...so it is an assumption, yes.
- [18:13] <MikeyMcScrooge> He's not using anything with "Paint" in the title. He has full on Photoshop.
- [18:14] <IceTailsMK4> But turning GS into GB shouldn't take that much effort to do.
- [18:14] <IceTailsMK4> I just would like to see both kinds turned into alt skins for the RMs.
- [18:14] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> Oh, the recolors are made manually?
- [18:14] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's essentially downgrading it, and that has to be done by hand if the bot has no GB counterpart.
- [18:14] <IceTailsMK4> That's my topic.
- [18:15] <IceTailsMK4> Manually, yes.
- [18:15] <@MerryBossMan_> Yep.
- [18:15] <@MerryBossMan_> I'm evidence of that/
- [18:15] <IceTailsMK4> Though GS can be done by a few commands, but that's it.
- [18:15] <IceTailsMK4> The rest of the recolors Adrian is doing has to be done by hand.
- [18:15] <MikeyMcScrooge> A command. 2 keystrokes in Paint.net.
- [18:15] <@MerryBossMan_> If you guys want, I could put the GB colors on my sprite profile, so at least you could look at what could've been.
- [18:16] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> The 4MI colors I wanted wouldn't have broken anything, though. That's good. It's kind of a shame that most of the alt colors Adrian is providing seem to be very safe and sterile. :/
- [18:17] <@MerryBossMan_> Adrian said that in the future, he'd consider fan-game recolors.
- [18:17] <IceTailsMK4> If what Adrian said was true about opening up certain positions...
- [18:17] <IceTailsMK4> There could be someone else doing the recolors and adding them to the game.
- [18:17] <@MerryBossMan_> I could handle sprites or music.
- [18:17] <@MerryBossMan_> Photoshop isn't exactly cheap, but neither am I.
- [18:17] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> Recoloring would be an easy job for me. Heck, I might even take some requests.
- [18:18] <@MerryBossMan_> I remember when I used to do fan-requests...
- [18:18] <IceTailsMK4> Perhaps if Adrian is willing to let others do recolors, some process could be put in place to accept or reject ideas.
- [18:19] <IceTailsMK4> Though that'll sure be tons of skins to do in the game...
- [18:19] <IceTailsMK4> And that may require a fourth shop...but let's not go down that road just yet. It was rocky last time we went there... <_<
- [18:19] <TheDoc> Lol
- [18:19] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, let's move on.
- [18:19] <IceTailsMK4> That was all I wanted to mention, that I'd like to see both GS and GB alt skins for the game.
- [18:20] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, of course.
- [18:20] <IceTailsMK4> *steps off the stand*
- [18:20] <@MerryBossMan_> And I'd love to see your idea in-game.
- [18:20] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, should I go ahead?
- [18:20] <MikeyMcScrooge> Sure.
- [18:20] <@MerryBossMan_> *Steps on the stand*
- [18:20] <IceTailsMK4> I'm all ears...or eyes, I guess.
- [18:21] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, I didn't get to finish this idea, as my week has been CRAZY
- [18:21] <@MerryBossMan_> Green card renewals aren't exactly to fill out, amiright?
- [18:21] <@MerryBossMan_> *exactly easy
- [18:21] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, what I was planning...
- [18:22] <DededeTheKING> BAAAAAAAAAACk
- [18:22] <TheDoc> wb
- [18:22] <@MerryBossMan_> Do you guys remember how the early chapters can be a bit of a pain your first-go-around?
- [18:22] <IceTailsMK4> I wouldn't know since my family's immigrant line was over from the Mayflower...
- [18:22] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, lucky...
- [18:22] <DededeTheKING> Ahem, my op back?
- [18:22] <TheDoc> yes
- [18:22] <TheDoc> @MBM
- [18:22] <IceTailsMK4> First go around, yeah.
- [18:22] <@MerryBossMan_> So, I replayed it.
- [18:22] <IceTailsMK4> I didn't have much trouble, but I did have a loss or two.
- [18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> And I found myself getting whopped a bit.
- [18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Not too much trouble, but still a bit of a pain.
- [18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Now, imagine a first-timer with this.
- [18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Unfamiliar, all that.
- [18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, side-note I noticed about Fire Man here.
- [18:23] <IceTailsMK4> I didn't when I did a low-level run...especially since I chose to do Elec Man first and get Mega Man some experience with the Spine.
- [18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Fire Storm is a pain to deal with.
- [18:24] <IceTailsMK4> And had Mega Man and Roll dealing with...Oil Man, I think I started with.
- [18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Not only is defense raised, but the attack gets stronger each time.
- [18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Now, that's a whole nother thing.
- [18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> However, I managed to prevail being a smart cookie.
- [18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Like I said though, new guys?
- [18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> They're going to have trouble.
- [18:24] <IceTailsMK4> Indeed.
- [18:24] <TheDoc> So what do you propose?
- [18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Now, there's experienced new-comers, and new-comers who aren't good with RPGs.
- [18:25] <IceTailsMK4> This kind of difficulty should be experience later, rather than earlier.
- [18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> For the latter, I propose an option you could find in the menu.
- [18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> "Easy Mode"
- [18:25] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's actually a LOT worse than high attack and defense, but, yes, it's a MASSIVE problem.
- [18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Lower field multipliers
- [18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Also, one bigger thing here
- [18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> I'm still not 100% with this next thing
- [18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> But the first time you fight a Robot Master?
- [18:26] <IceTailsMK4> I fell into the former group, btw, having played tons of RPGs.
- [18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> You know how they have a mecha?
- [18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> And if you beat em, they have 2, and so forth?
- [18:26] <TheDoc> yep
- [18:26] <IceTailsMK4> Yeah, up to 5.
- [18:26] <IceTailsMK4> Er, 4 mechas.
- [18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> The first time you fight em in Easy Mode
- [18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> They don't have a mecha.
- [18:26] == DededeTheKING [ad50f880@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.80.248.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
- [18:26] <IceTailsMK4> I disagree.
- [18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, I wasn't too big on that either.
- [18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> But Easy Mode WOULD have to lower things.
- [18:27] <IceTailsMK4> Because if you have trouble with the RMs...
- [18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Field Multipliers and such.
- [18:27] <IceTailsMK4> Your only experience is from the Mets.
- [18:27] <MikeyMcScrooge> The only way we gain exp then is to rehash the intro stage again and again. :P
- [18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> No, you could still fight the mets.
- [18:27] <IceTailsMK4> MBM.
- [18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Mike, I thought you were in support of that?
- [18:27] <TheDoc> Also lower the BP output
- [18:27] <IceTailsMK4> If you remove the mechas from the RM stages itself...
- [18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Doc?
- [18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Really?
- [18:27] <IceTailsMK4> YOU CAN ONLY FIGHT METS TO GET EXP.
- [18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> How did you?
- [18:27] <TheDoc> .....Is there something on my face?
- [18:28] * TheDoc awkwardly feels face
- [18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> Tails, like I said, that wasn't something I was too big on.
- [18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> The drawback to this
- [18:28] <MikeyMcScrooge> @ Boss: Actually, I'm in support of there being MORE intro stages.
- [18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> Lower BP amount
- [18:28] <MikeyMcScrooge> like 3 or 4.
- [18:28] <IceTailsMK4> Yes, I agree Easy needs to have something lowered, and the only thing really is Field Modifiers.
- [18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> @Mike That's already something Adrian's working on.
- [18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, there needs to be an Easy mode.
- [18:28] <IceTailsMK4> The tutorial stages, right?
- [18:29] <MikeyMcScrooge> Nah, just more intro stages.
- [18:29] <@MerryBossMan_> And the tutorial stages was something that I'll talk about next week.
- [18:29] <IceTailsMK4> Oh.
- [18:29] <MikeyMcScrooge> I don't know how Adrian feels about my tutorial idea.
- [18:29] <MikeyMcScrooge> He never said anything about it last week.
- [18:29] <@MerryBossMan_> Now, when you get to Final Destination
- [18:29] <IceTailsMK4> How about some extra intro stages where you get level 1 Mechas randomly generated like in the Bonus Stages?
- [18:29] == ZeroDXZ [44bfa6de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.191.166.222] has joined #mmrpg
- [18:29] <TheDoc> Hiya Zero
- [18:29] <ZeroDXZ> ZeroDXZ Present!
- [18:30] <ZeroDXZ> Hi Doc
- [18:30] <@MerryBossMan_> Like I said
- [18:30] <@MerryBossMan_> When you get to FD
- [18:30] <MikeyMcScrooge> Hey, DXZ.
- [18:30] <ZeroDXZ> Hello Mikey
- [18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> A prompt would come up, only in Easy Mode, that would encourage the player to play on Normal Mode
- [18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> In fact, maybe one day in the future...
- [18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> We could get an unlockable mode known as Hard Mode.
- [18:31] <ZeroDXZ> are we talking Mega-Man
- [18:31] <ZeroDXZ> or Smash Bros?
- [18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> But that's for another day.
- [18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Mega Man.
- [18:31] <ZeroDXZ> ok
- [18:31] <MikeyMcScrooge> XD @ DXZ
- [18:31] <ZeroDXZ> just to be clear
- [18:31] <IceTailsMK4> MMRPG Prototype, to be exact.
- [18:32] <TheDoc> MMRPG has a Final Destination stage
- [18:32] <ZeroDXZ> my Phoenix Wright sense just kicked in there xD
- [18:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> I second DXZ's emotion, actually.
- [18:32] <IceTailsMK4> Each story has three missions on it.
- [18:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> :P
- [18:32] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, I think we all could agree this game could use an Easy Mode.
- [18:32] <IceTailsMK4> Yes.
- [18:32] <TheDoc> Yus
- [18:32] <ZeroDXZ> um
- [18:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> Nah.
- [18:32] <ZeroDXZ> if i may
- [18:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> Thats more work for Adrian.
- [18:32] <ZeroDXZ> if i may!!
- [18:32] <@MerryBossMan_> Clicking an option and changing field multipliers?
- [18:32] <TheDoc> @Zero you don't need to ask. Just throw it out there :D
- [18:33] <IceTailsMK4> ...No, that'd be a bit too complicated
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> the game itself is actually already easy
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> IF!
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> you have the stars
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> and OP stats
- [18:33] <IceTailsMK4> Zero, think about people with ...
- [18:33] <IceTailsMK4> Zero, first go around.
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> i know
- [18:33] <TheDoc> We're talking about when you first start
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> i know Tails
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> but
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> that's why they have the demo mode
- [18:33] <MikeyMcScrooge> He'd also have to code things for the game to MAKE this Easy Mode
- [18:33] <@MerryBossMan_> If it is something that requires A LOT of work, we could make it the focus of a Update.
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> that in itself is a Easy Mode
- [18:33] <@MerryBossMan_> What I just said.
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> to show players about the game
- [18:33] <IceTailsMK4> The demo mode is not really like that of the main game.
- [18:33] <ZeroDXZ> and maybe give them a tutorial
- [18:34] <ZeroDXZ> *shakes head*
- [18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> I already have a tutorial mode idea in the works.
- [18:34] <MikeyMcScrooge> There's a simpler way to fix this. It's part of my presentation, this week.
- [18:34] <ZeroDXZ> well
- [18:34] <ZeroDXZ> may we hear about it MegaBossMan?
- [18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> The "Scream at Mikey" ideas?
- [18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> I don't have it ready.
- [18:34] <ZeroDXZ> well
- [18:34] <ZeroDXZ> may we at least hear about it?
- [18:34] <ZeroDXZ> like
- [18:34] <ZeroDXZ> the idea
- [18:34] <ZeroDXZ> and how it's going to be worked out?
- [18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> It's a tutorial.
- [18:34] <IceTailsMK4> I'd like to see the beginning made a tiny bit easier, but the game should get a tiny bit harder the later you go through the game, and not just the spike in difficulty at Chapter 4.
- [18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> How else would it work?
- [18:35] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's what I have in mind, too.
- [18:35] <ZeroDXZ> *facepalms*
- [18:35] <MikeyMcScrooge> I'm waiting my turn, DXZ. Patience. I always go last. Every week.
- [18:36] <ZeroDXZ> well
- [18:36] <ZeroDXZ> as for me
- [18:36] <ZeroDXZ> i had mentioned in the xat
- [18:36] <ZeroDXZ> about the MMX and MMZ series
- [18:36] <ZeroDXZ> if anybody remembers correctly
- [18:36] <ZeroDXZ> i was hoping IF, i had the help...maybe near future..i could refer to some of you people to make a cross-over game
- [18:37] <@MerryBossMan_> ?
- [18:37] <ZeroDXZ> maybe asking for Adrians help, and usage of the system used for the Prototype as well
- [18:37] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> I think the balance of this game will take a turn for the better, once Adrian finishes this winter update with the stat rebalancing.
- [18:37] <@MerryBossMan_> I don't think that would work.
- [18:37] <ZeroDXZ> it's worth a try MBM
- [18:37] <ZeroDXZ> worth a try
- [18:37] <ZeroDXZ> and if it doesn't work
- [18:37] <IceTailsMK4> ...I just remembered one of Mikey's ideas... -_-
- [18:37] <@MerryBossMan_> First off, unless your game was a RPG, you couldn't use this system.
- [18:37] <ZeroDXZ> there's always a plan B
- [18:38] <ZeroDXZ> tell us tails xD
- [18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> Second off, you'd need someone with tons of code experience, and Adrian would be too busy here.
- [18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> And go ahead, Tails.
- [18:38] <IceTailsMK4> I think he'll mention it later... >_>
- [18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> The "S" idea.
- [18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> Oh boy.
- [18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, who's next on the stand?
- [18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> *Steps off stand*
- [18:38] * TheDoc eats a cookie
- [18:39] <IceTailsMK4> Code experience? Does working towards a Bachelor's in Computer Science count? :P
- [18:39] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [18:39] <ZeroDXZ> depending
- [18:39] <ZeroDXZ> on what field it's for my friend
- [18:39] <IceTailsMK4> No one else has ideas except for Mikey?
- [18:39] <ZeroDXZ> -erherm-
- [18:39] <ZeroDXZ> and me
- [18:39] <ZeroDXZ> xD
- [18:40] <IceTailsMK4> Go ahead DXZ.
- [18:40] <ZeroDXZ> which were said earlier
- [18:40] <@MerryBossMan_> If no one else had anythinh, I suppose it's your turn Zero.
- [18:40] <ZeroDXZ> i was contemplating on the 'NO ITEM' usage on the Player Battles
- [18:40] <ZeroDXZ> and i came with the conclusion
- [18:41] <ZeroDXZ> "well what if it's just the pellets?"
- [18:41] <@MerryBossMan_> No.
- [18:41] <@MerryBossMan_> At least, I wouldn't like that.
- [18:41] <ZeroDXZ> thats also what i said merry
- [18:41] <IceTailsMK4> Especially not the Weapon Pellets.
- [18:41] <ZeroDXZ> i do have another idea
- [18:41] <ZeroDXZ> actually
- [18:41] <@MerryBossMan_> The Player Battles are supposed to be fair.
- [18:41] <ZeroDXZ> -ahem-
- [18:41] <IceTailsMK4> "fair".
- [18:41] <ZeroDXZ> i contemplated what you both said -_-
- [18:41] <ZeroDXZ> anyways
- [18:41] <IceTailsMK4> Starforce broke the fairness a long time ago. :/
- [18:41] <ZeroDXZ> THAT also!
- [18:42] <ZeroDXZ> i know the Starforce is supposed to be random
- [18:42] <ZeroDXZ> and we have that Chart
- [18:42] <IceTailsMK4> There's NO defense against someone with max Starforce.
- [18:42] <ZeroDXZ> from whats-his-face
- [18:42] <@MerryBossMan_> *cough* coreguard
- [18:42] <IceTailsMK4> ...yet.
- [18:42] <TheDoc> Random how?
- [18:42] <ZeroDXZ> well
- [18:42] <ZeroDXZ> notice how the fusion and field stars all depend on a certain field
- [18:43] <@MerryBossMan_> It isn't random, I believe.
- [18:43] <ZeroDXZ> or Fusion Field?
- [18:43] <ZeroDXZ> actually
- [18:43] <@MerryBossMan_> You mean the moves.
- [18:43] <ZeroDXZ> considering
- [18:43] <ZeroDXZ> it is
- [18:43] <@MerryBossMan_> No, it depends on how much you have.
- [18:43] <TheDoc> You can set up the fields to get specific stars
- [18:43] <TheDoc> There is no randomness to it
- [18:43] <ZeroDXZ> *facepalms then sets hands on his Defense Attorney's Desk*
- [18:44] <ZeroDXZ> know
- [18:44] <ZeroDXZ> what
- [18:44] <@MerryBossMan_> Zero, you're talking to someone who has all 1024 stars, I think I know what I'm saying.
- [18:44] <ZeroDXZ> look at it from my P.O.V
- [18:44] <IceTailsMK4> *people
- [18:44] <ZeroDXZ> i mean
- [18:44] <@MerryBossMan_> Doc doesn't have them all.
- [18:44] <ZeroDXZ> *takes up a paper and taps it with his finger*
- [18:44] <ZeroDXZ> yes
- [18:44] <ZeroDXZ> 1024
- [18:45] <ZeroDXZ> 1024 stars
- [18:45] <@MerryBossMan_> Go ahead, I'm listening.
- [18:45] <ZeroDXZ> that being alot
- [18:45] <ZeroDXZ> yes
- [18:45] <ZeroDXZ> it is possible they are set random
- [18:45] <ZeroDXZ> yes it isn't considered random considering you have the set fields
- [18:45] * TheDoc drools
- [18:45] <ZeroDXZ> but what really gets me is how you could POSSIBLY!...and i mean possibly
- [18:45] <ZeroDXZ> get them all
- [18:45] <@MerryBossMan_> ?
- [18:45] <ZeroDXZ> with the tedious acts and all that also with said stratz
- [18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> But that isn't random, that's determination.
- [18:46] <ZeroDXZ> how would you possibly know the combinations for all 1024?
- [18:46] <ZeroDXZ> or even the single fields for some?
- [18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> Because we put a lot of thought into getting them all.
- [18:46] <ZeroDXZ> ....
- [18:46] <IceTailsMK4> The combos are based off of the RM pairs.
- [18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> We don't get it willy-nilly, we plan it.
- [18:46] <ZeroDXZ> so says the man that let IceTailsMK4 pass him
- [18:46] <ZeroDXZ> WAY off the chart
- [18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> ........
- [18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> *Sigh*
- [18:46] <ZeroDXZ> maybe
- [18:46] <IceTailsMK4> Uh, let's not go there. >_>
- [18:47] <@MerryBossMan_> Listen.
- [18:47] <MikeyMcScrooge> Heh.
- [18:47] <IceTailsMK4> What happens in the top 3, stays in the top 3. :P
- [18:47] <@MerryBossMan_> It's not random, we plan it.
- [18:47] <TheDoc> @Zero Whether or not you think it's ridiculous, the evidence still stands. People have done it; it's not impossible
- [18:47] <IceTailsMK4> We have...7 people, atm? One just needs 3 more Stars to be the 8th.
- [18:48] <@MerryBossMan_> I'd prefer if we didn't spend time on this, let's move on.
- [18:48] <ZeroDXZ> 0.0'
- [18:48] <MikeyMcScrooge> 7, yes. Full list in order on my profile.
- [18:48] <@MerryBossMan_> Adrian still has to read this.
- [18:48] <TheDoc> Is that all the ideas then?
- [18:48] <@MerryBossMan_> No, Mikester.
- [18:48] <IceTailsMK4> This is going to be a large pastebin...and we haven't even got to Mikey yet.
- [18:48] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [18:48] <TheDoc> Well BESIDES Mikey lol
- [18:48] <ZeroDXZ> *slams desk*
- [18:48] <MikeyMcScrooge> HAH. :P
- [18:48] <ZeroDXZ> i don't last remember the time i last talked to Adrian
- [18:49] <@MerryBossMan_> Mike himself could amount to a full meeting.
- [18:49] <ZeroDXZ> @CHAOS_FANTAZY.... btw...love your profile :3
- [18:49] <IceTailsMK4> With whatever is in his sinistar beaker of a mind. lol
- [18:49] <IceTailsMK4> *sinister
- [18:49] <IceTailsMK4> Bah.
- [18:49] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, let's get to the Mike-screamy portion.
- [18:50] <IceTailsMK4> *claps slowly as Mikey takes the stand*
- [18:50] <@MerryBossMan_> I assume no one else has anything, so we'll get to the meat of the section.
- [18:50] * TheDoc eats another cookie
- [18:50] <IceTailsMK4> (Prepare your low voices. lol)
- [18:50] <@MerryBossMan_> [Hey, let's not get too goofy here though]
- [18:50] * TheDoc fluffs his pillow
- [18:50] <IceTailsMK4> (Yeah yeah, I know...)
- [18:51] <ZeroDXZ> *taps my piece of paper*
- [18:51] <MikeyMcScrooge> All right. Please understand that I make these ideas not to be a ***** or a *********, but because Prototype is uneven; the MM1 bots are hardest, and that's just plain ridiculous, so, this week I have 7 idea to make Prototype a more enjoyable and more fufilling experience.
- [18:51] <@MerryBossMan_> [Zero, were you not done?]
- [18:51] <@MerryBossMan_> [Alright, we'll get to you later, after this]
- [18:52] <IceTailsMK4> I think that's been established already it's been uneven...so we're all ears.
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> um
- [18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> Enjoy. http://pastebin.com/mxZV1ZfZ
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> not to interupt
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> but Mikey
- [18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> Hmm?
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> i was lucky to pass the MM1 bots with a single failure
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- [18:52] <IceTailsMK4> Oh, I see. This helps...
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> that being i believe on Time-Man
- [18:52] <IceTailsMK4> Looking at #1 now.
- [18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> Key word there: lucky.
- [18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> I died 9 times.
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> well
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> being me
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> and i played Pokemon
- [18:52] <ZeroDXZ> understood stratagy
- [18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> ......BEFORE I BEAT ONE.
- [18:53] <ZeroDXZ> and many other stuff
- [18:53] <ZeroDXZ> yea
- [18:53] <ZeroDXZ> you threw me off
- [18:53] <ZeroDXZ> thanks alot -_-
- [18:53] <@MerryBossMan_> 3, I will never agree with.
- [18:53] <ZeroDXZ> you deserve a penalty from the judge
- [18:53] <ZeroDXZ> xD
- [18:53] <IceTailsMK4> I'm already brushing aside #1.
- [18:54] <@MerryBossMan_> 5, I could see a bit.
- [18:54] <IceTailsMK4> Cause I talked about the problem with this one so many times.
- [18:54] <@MerryBossMan_> 6?
- [18:54] <@MerryBossMan_> I think you got some of those wrong.
- [18:54] <IceTailsMK4> Why bother with the MM1 robots when the other robots have higher starting stats?
- [18:54] <ZeroDXZ> ....
- [18:54] <@MerryBossMan_> Most of those work with percentages that only boost stats.
- [18:54] <ZeroDXZ> @IceTails
- [18:54] <ZeroDXZ> agreed
- [18:54] <MikeyMcScrooge> Just edited #1 with the link from the past Pastebin. Forgot about that. :P
- [18:55] <@MerryBossMan_> And for 7, you shall be crucified.
- [18:55] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [18:55] <IceTailsMK4> Unlike MBM, I'll go slow and carefully read each idea...
- [18:55] <@MerryBossMan_> I read and think fast.
- [18:55] <IceTailsMK4> We've talked about #2 already and I still am unsure about that one...
- [18:56] <Tobyjolly> I'm sorry, what am I missing here? Also, hello
- [18:56] <@MerryBossMan_> Hey.
- [18:56] <@MerryBossMan_> 2 would be nice, but that's a finishing touch.
- [18:56] <IceTailsMK4> Especially when some of the abilities are Tier II abilities.
- [18:56] <@MerryBossMan_> That'd take quite a bit to do.
- [18:56] <IceTailsMK4> It'd make more sense to make the Tier I abilities exclusive, imo.
- [18:56] <ZeroDXZ> ....
- [18:57] <@MerryBossMan_> Exclusive moves wouldn't be bad.
- [18:57] <ZeroDXZ> to be honest
- [18:57] <ZeroDXZ> i think i've been abusing my "OP" Bass
- [18:57] <MikeyMcScrooge> Hey, T.J. Just presented my ideas. Hold on.
- [18:57] <IceTailsMK4> My main problem with increasing stats...
- [18:57] <MikeyMcScrooge> http://pastebin.com/mxZV1ZfZ
- [18:57] <IceTailsMK4> You're proposing to increase the BASE stats.
- [18:57] <MikeyMcScrooge> Yep.
- [18:57] <IceTailsMK4> Which I cannot agree with.
- [18:57] <@MerryBossMan_> I dunno about 4, that has a lot of work in it.
- [18:58] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [18:58] <IceTailsMK4> If you're talking about gradually increasing the level of the robots, that's another thing entirely.
- [18:58] <@MerryBossMan_> 5 though.
- [18:58] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, I wouldn't mind.
- [18:58] <MikeyMcScrooge> We do that already. They're still simple.
- [18:58] <@MerryBossMan_> Also, can I talk about something real quick?
- [18:58] <IceTailsMK4> And Adrian's new stat adjustment system can give us some variety.
- [18:58] <MikeyMcScrooge> Even the Final Destination ones.
- [18:58] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [18:59] <@MerryBossMan_> Hey, Zero, I hope you don't mind, but could I get a quick idea before the rest of your ideas?
- [18:59] <@MerryBossMan_> I promise you, it'd be really quick.
- [18:59] <IceTailsMK4> I think you can kind of determine how your stats will grow as you level up...
- [18:59] <IceTailsMK4> I might need to read that again.
- [18:59] <ZeroDXZ> sure
- [18:59] <IceTailsMK4> But robots at the same level do not need to have the same exact stats, just like Pokemon in the wild don't have the same exact stats.
- [19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> As for unofficial 8...
- [19:00] <IceTailsMK4> The BASE stats are the same.
- [19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> Isn't there something after 100 levels?
- [19:00] <IceTailsMK4> But some robots could get higher stats per level.
- [19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> Like increasing stats?
- [19:00] <IceTailsMK4> I thought Adrian was getting rid of that?
- [19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> No, he isn't.
- [19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> There's just a limit now.
- [19:01] <@MerryBossMan_> Also, #7 is the S idea.
- [19:01] <IceTailsMK4> I'm interested now...so ok, let me rephrase...
- [19:01] <IceTailsMK4> Even though robots and Mechas max out at level 100...
- [19:01] <IceTailsMK4> They can still grow.
- [19:01] <IceTailsMK4> (not Mechas, though)
- [19:01] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [19:01] <IceTailsMK4> If you applied that concept instead of adjusting base stats, Mikey, then you'd have my support for idea 1.
- [19:02] <IceTailsMK4> Reading idea 4 now...
- [19:02] <ZeroDXZ> um
- [19:02] <ZeroDXZ> i support Idea #7
- [19:03] <ZeroDXZ> not saying the Starforce was usefull
- [19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> I could never support idea 7.
- [19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> Imagine.
- [19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> The 7 players who grinded for days..
- [19:03] <IceTailsMK4> Critical hits...I'm not sure what to say about this one.
- [19:03] <ZeroDXZ> i kinda did see bad things about the Starforce
- [19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> And all their starforce just poof?
- [19:03] <Tobyjolly> I can agree with Idea 1-3, I completely disagree with idea 4-5, and I get what you are saying with idea 6-7, but that is NOT the correct way to balance them.
- [19:03] <IceTailsMK4> I'll get back to idea 4.
- [19:03] <ZeroDXZ> MBM
- [19:03] <ZeroDXZ> i kinda support you
- [19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> That'd be such a kick in the gut, I couldn't even describe it.
- [19:03] <ZeroDXZ> but i also support the taking down of the Starforce
- [19:03] <ZeroDXZ> either way if it goes
- [19:03] <ZeroDXZ> or if it doesn;t
- [19:03] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's hard to answer everything at once in here. :P
- [19:03] <ZeroDXZ> *'t
- [19:04] <ZeroDXZ> then i'll be happy
- [19:04] <IceTailsMK4> Yeah, I know.
- [19:04] <ZeroDXZ> as long as it gets a verdict
- [19:04] <IceTailsMK4> No comments about Idea 5 because we really need this.
- [19:04] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, should we take this one at a time?
- [19:04] <IceTailsMK4> That's what I was doing, MBM, and I'm now going to read idea 6.
- [19:04] <@MerryBossMan_> I know, I wasn't directly speaking to you.
- [19:04] <ZeroDXZ> *taps my piece of paper*
- [19:04] <@MerryBossMan_> Give us a bit more.
- [19:05] <MikeyMcScrooge> Yeah, lets do this one at a time, please.
- [19:05] <ZeroDXZ> @MBM if you feel what i said before was offensive then i'm sorry
- [19:05] <MikeyMcScrooge> ...andthankyou.
- [19:05] <@MerryBossMan_> @Zero No, it's fine.
- [19:06] <IceTailsMK4> Idea 6 is good to me, now to read 7...
- [19:07] <IceTailsMK4> *prepares the cross* lol
- [19:07] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [19:07] <ZeroDXZ> if i may interrupt
- [19:07] <ZeroDXZ> um
- [19:07] <ZeroDXZ> the Core-Force idea
- [19:07] <ZeroDXZ> ..as an idea for a defense against the Star-Froce
- [19:07] <ZeroDXZ> *force
- [19:07] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> You do realize that these suggestions basically kill everything that MMRPG ever had going for it in its history of forever, right?
- [19:08] <ZeroDXZ> seeing as aforementioned a certain someone wanted the Star-Force removed
- [19:08] <IceTailsMK4> Starforce needs to do more than just increase attack. I believe this was suggested before.
- [19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> @CHAOS That's exactly what I think.
- [19:08] <ZeroDXZ> wouldn't that make the Core-Force useless?
- [19:08] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's already useless.
- [19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> No, it defends aganist Starforce.
- [19:08] <ZeroDXZ> Merry
- [19:08] <ZeroDXZ> i'm saying
- [19:08] <ZeroDXZ> what if Star-Force DOES
- [19:08] <ZeroDXZ> get removed
- [19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> Ah, yes.
- [19:08] <IceTailsMK4> It's not going to.
- [19:08] <ZeroDXZ> Core-Force would be useless
- [19:08] <ZeroDXZ> UTTERLY
- [19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> That's another reason why.
- [19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> We can't just cut it out.
- [19:09] <@MerryBossMan_> I mean, that's two huge mechanics cut off.
- [19:09] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's what I'm saying: Both should be eliminated.
- [19:09] <IceTailsMK4> Starforce just needs to be adjusted, not removed.
- [19:09] <MikeyMcScrooge> It just helps to break an otherwise awesome games.
- [19:09] <IceTailsMK4> Having tons of Starforce should INCREASE the defense against the same element.
- [19:09] <MikeyMcScrooge> *game
- [19:09] <@MerryBossMan_> Break an otherwise awesome game?
- [19:09] <@MerryBossMan_> How many people have starforce again?
- [19:09] <@MerryBossMan_> 7?
- [19:09] <ZeroDXZ> hey
- [19:10] <@MerryBossMan_> The full set.
- [19:10] <MikeyMcScrooge> You assume that you need all 1,024 to beat Tails.
- [19:10] <ZeroDXZ> ok nvm
- [19:10] <MikeyMcScrooge> You don't.
- [19:10] <IceTailsMK4> You could get away with only certain elements.
- [19:10] <MikeyMcScrooge> 900 at the minimum, I think.
- [19:10] <IceTailsMK4> Not even that much.
- [19:10] <@MerryBossMan_> That's still quite a bit.
- [19:10] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [19:10] <IceTailsMK4> This does kind of spoil the big secrets...but I feel I should make a point.
- [19:11] <MikeyMcScrooge> Not really.
- [19:11] <IceTailsMK4> There's two ways to beat my team, and any team, really.
- [19:11] <ZeroDXZ> also
- [19:11] <MikeyMcScrooge> DXZ still has to figure out HOW to beat you with only 57 Stars. :P
- [19:11] <ZeroDXZ> last time for me interrupting
- [19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, not to you Mike.
- [19:11] <IceTailsMK4> The broken Rain Flush ability beefed up with max Water Starforce...
- [19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> But you have loads of freetime.
- [19:11] <ZeroDXZ> the fact of 250 being the Level Cap
- [19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> Me?
- [19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> I took about a week.
- [19:11] <ZeroDXZ> it concerns me
- [19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> And it was a long tedious week.
- [19:12] <@MerryBossMan_> You should've seen my GF.
- [19:12] <IceTailsMK4> Or a quick attacking ability like Quick Boomerang with its max amount of Starforce.
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- [19:12] <IceTailsMK4> And Quick Boomerange actually gets more powerful overtime.
- [19:12] <IceTailsMK4> Because it gets power from TWO elements.
- [19:12] <ZeroDXZ> oh ya
- [19:12] <ZeroDXZ> it does
- [19:12] <ZeroDXZ> doesn't it have
- [19:12] <ZeroDXZ> cutter and quick?
- [19:12] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's worth mentioning that I address the kind of thing that Quick Boomerang can allow you to do in Idea #5.
- [19:12] <ZeroDXZ> or
- [19:12] <ZeroDXZ> swift
- [19:13] <ZeroDXZ> i mean
- [19:13] <IceTailsMK4> Cutter is one of the most dominant elements, btw.
- [19:13] <@MerryBossMan_> Quick Boomerang ignores stats?
- [19:13] <MikeyMcScrooge> I'm posting a whole thread on this when this is over, so, you can kill me there. :P
- [19:13] <@MerryBossMan_> Oy.
- [19:13] <IceTailsMK4> I have to brb, but that leads to the discussion regarding how broken Starforce gets, and it needs to be adjusted to increase defense or something.
- [19:14] <MikeyMcScrooge> It ignores s****.
- [19:14] <ZeroDXZ> Mikey
- [19:14] <@MerryBossMan_> Quick Boomerang doesn't ignore anything.
- [19:14] <TheDoc> But isn't that why coreguard is becoming a thing?
- [19:14] <ZeroDXZ> *throws an Objection!*
- [19:14] <@MerryBossMan_> Exactly.
- [19:14] <ZeroDXZ> *slams desk*
- [19:14] <TheDoc> The "adjustment" is already planned
- [19:14] <ZeroDXZ> i never got my answer about the Level. 250 Cap. concern
- [19:14] <ZeroDXZ> that i had
- [19:14] <TheDoc> You said it concerns and didn't explain why
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> well
- [19:15] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's the thing, do you have any idea how much damage that those of us with, say, 800 or more stars can do?
- [19:15] <TheDoc> That's not a question to answer
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> give me time here
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> i'm still asking myself
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> "why?"
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> ok
- [19:15] <@MerryBossMan_> Mike.
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> got it now
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> yet
- [19:15] <MikeyMcScrooge> I addresssed that in the Pastebin, DXZ.
- [19:15] <@MerryBossMan_> Coreguard blocks a PERCENTAGE of damage.
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> shouldn't the EXP needed for that be increased?
- [19:15] <@MerryBossMan_> It doesn't block a set amount
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> like maybe 250 points?
- [19:15] <TheDoc> @Zero please stop taking 4-5 comments to finish one sentence
- [19:15] <ZeroDXZ> or another 1,000?
- [19:16] <MikeyMcScrooge> Coreguard, if I'm told correctly will allow you to block up to 49.5% of damage from an element, yes?
- [19:16] <TheDoc> Afk I may have to go here
- [19:16] <@MerryBossMan_> The percent hasn't been announced yet.
- [19:16] <ZeroDXZ> *waited*
- [19:17] <MikeyMcScrooge> Whatever it is, it won't be enough.
- [19:17] <@MerryBossMan_> Do you know that?
- [19:17] <@MerryBossMan_> Better than nothing, or just throwing it all the window.
- [19:17] <@MerryBossMan_> *Just throwing it all out
- [19:17] <MikeyMcScrooge> I do. Remember that image you posted, Boss, about you overkilling Ring Man by 3/4 of a BILLION damage?
- [19:18] <@MerryBossMan_> That wasn't only due to Starforce though.
- [19:18] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, let's move on.
- [19:18] <MikeyMcScrooge> 99% of that is STILL 10 million damage.
- [19:18] <IceTailsMK4> Just got back, wanted to respond to something I saw before I left.
- [19:18] <IceTailsMK4> Mikey, Quick Boomerang doesn't ignore Speed.
- [19:18] <MikeyMcScrooge> It'll block NOTHING.
- [19:18] <@MerryBossMan_> The game doesn't have coreguard though.
- [19:18] <MikeyMcScrooge> What happens if you use it, Tails?
- [19:18] <@MerryBossMan_> Player Battles have coreguard.
- [19:18] <MikeyMcScrooge> You go......?
- [19:18] <IceTailsMK4> If you have opponents using two Quick Boomerang, two Search Snakes, or a combo, the player with the highest Speed fires.
- [19:18] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [19:19] <IceTailsMK4> And Quick Boomerang versus Proto Strike?
- [19:19] <MikeyMcScrooge> Other wise, you gooooo......?
- [19:19] <IceTailsMK4> Proto Strike fires first.
- [19:19] <@MerryBossMan_> ?
- [19:19] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [19:19] <IceTailsMK4> The issue at hand is Attack Speed.
- [19:19] <ZeroDXZ> -cough- Bass Baroque -cough-
- [19:19] <IceTailsMK4> On the flip side...
- [19:19] <MikeyMcScrooge> Which ignores speed.
- [19:20] <IceTailsMK4> Any other ability will fire before Hard Knuckle.
- [19:20] <IceTailsMK4> It does NOT ignore speed if the opponent uses a move with the same Attack Speed, Mikey.
- [19:20] <MikeyMcScrooge> otherwise, it does.
- [19:21] <ZeroDXZ> ....
- [19:21] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's the truth. That's nt be being stubborn. That's the plain truth.
- [19:21] <MikeyMcScrooge> *that's not me being stubborn
- [19:21] <@MerryBossMan_> I don't like this truth.
- [19:21] <MikeyMcScrooge> Attack Speed makes Speed look utterly useless.
- [19:21] <TheDoc> What
- [19:22] <@MerryBossMan_> ....
- [19:22] <ZeroDXZ> @Mikey agreed
- [19:22] <TheDoc> What about all the abilities you were complaining about in #6?
- [19:22] <@MerryBossMan_> PFFF
- [19:22] <TheDoc> Do ALL of those ignore speed?
- [19:22] <@MerryBossMan_> Speed is what decided accuracy, and that's pretty big.
- [19:22] <@MerryBossMan_> *decides
- [19:22] <MikeyMcScrooge> They ignore Defense, actually.
- [19:22] <MikeyMcScrooge> That shouldn't be happening, either.
- [19:22] <IceTailsMK4> Speed determining accuracy...I hear about this, but I haven't noticed this, MBM.
- [19:23] <TheDoc> My point is that Attack Speed isn't as broken as you're making it sound
- [19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> Yes, it is.
- [19:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Mike, attack speed isn't broken.
- [19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> I can beat Tails in Player Battles.
- [19:23] <ZeroDXZ> huh
- [19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> CRUSH Tails in Player Battles.
- [19:23] <ZeroDXZ> actually re-reading the pastebin i have one more question Mikey
- [19:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Speed doesn't do anything if it isn't powerful.
- [19:23] <@MerryBossMan_> What did you tell me?
- [19:23] <IceTailsMK4> Cause of Quick Boomerang. :P
- [19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> Nah.
- [19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> Other things, too.
- [19:23] <@MerryBossMan_> "Think through the eyes of a newbie"
- [19:23] <ZeroDXZ> What do you really mean by "Super Bosses?"
- [19:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Quick Boomerang is utterly useless with starforce.
- [19:24] <TheDoc> @Zero prior meetings
- [19:24] <MikeyMcScrooge> No, TOP SPIN is utterly useless with Star Force.
- [19:24] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's pathetically weak.
- [19:24] <@MerryBossMan_> So is Quick Boomerang.
- [19:24] <TheDoc> That is subjective
- [19:24] <@MerryBossMan_> It's pathetically weak as well.
- [19:24] <MikeyMcScrooge> Not with Star Force.
- [19:24] <IceTailsMK4> Let's go over the abilities that have a higher attack speed than normal...
- [19:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Plus, you know Tails?
- [19:24] <TheDoc> Not subjective
- [19:25] <@MerryBossMan_> His robots easily KO me with Top Spin.
- [19:25] <TheDoc> It just has to do with luck lol
- [19:25] <MikeyMcScrooge> ^
- [19:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Plus, accuract.
- [19:25] <IceTailsMK4> I can think of Quick Boomerang and Search Snake right off the bat.
- [19:25] <IceTailsMK4> And Search Snake is weak atm.
- [19:25] <MikeyMcScrooge> I'll do that for you.
- [19:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Tails has 9999, so all it does is hit.
- [19:25] <ZeroDXZ> ....
- [19:25] <IceTailsMK4> Oil Slider is another possbility...
- [19:26] <MikeyMcScrooge> Quick Boomerang, Search Snake, Oil Slider, Mecha Support, Field Support and uhhhh,
- [19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> Whatever.
- [19:26] <IceTailsMK4> We won't consider the Supports.
- [19:26] <MikeyMcScrooge> .......I know I'm missing one....
- [19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> Let's move on, Adrian still has to read this.
- [19:26] <IceTailsMK4> Let's bring this to the Xat chat, then.
- [19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, we'll argue later on Xat.
- [19:26] <IceTailsMK4> Was there any other topic we wanted to talk about?
- [19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> That's actually pretty smart Tails.
- [19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> I have something.
- [19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Can I take the stand?
- [19:27] <IceTailsMK4> If you push Mikey off, sure. lol
- [19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Whatever, I'm going up there.
- [19:27] <MikeyMcScrooge> *steps down* I have to make the thread for this, anyway.
- [19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright then.
- [19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> My topic?
- [19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Crash Bomber.
- [19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Look, here's the thing.
- [19:28] <TheDoc> Does this have to do with Mikey's #6?
- [19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> Crash Man is NOT a percent based-robot.
- [19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> He's an attack robot.
- [19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> So, Crash Bomber is pratically spitting on his attack stat.
- [19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> I really wish we could revert it to the old way.
- [19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> That way?
- [19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> No percents.
- [19:28] <IceTailsMK4> For me I've actually noticed that Crash Bomber does MORE damage as the defense of the target goes UP.
- [19:29] <@MerryBossMan_> But Crash Man isn't that type of robot, Tails.
- [19:29] <ZeroDXZ> ...
- [19:29] <IceTailsMK4> I'm just saying why I hate the ability.
- [19:29] <@MerryBossMan_> The older version took 5 turns, but had MASSIVE damage.
- [19:29] <@MerryBossMan_> It was based on his attack stat.
- [19:29] <IceTailsMK4> The current version now does MASSIVE damage in 3 turns.
- [19:29] <@MerryBossMan_> And unless there was a glitch from the old system, I'd really prefer it if we just used that.
- [19:30] <IceTailsMK4> I WISH I could see what the overkill is for a robot on my side that is defeated.
- [19:30] <@MerryBossMan_> The 5 turns, damage based on attack was so much better.
- [19:30] <@MerryBossMan_> Speaking of that, does Bomb Man need an affinity to Explode?
- [19:30] <TheDoc> I feel like I addressed this a long time ago
- [19:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Sorry then, Doc.
- [19:31] <TheDoc> Namely about his Danger Bomb + his affinity
- [19:31] <TheDoc> No no you're fine
- [19:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Well, that was just a side-note.
- [19:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, Zero?
- [19:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Did you have something?
- [19:31] <ZeroDXZ> *suddenly wakes up slamming my head on my desk&
- [19:31] <ZeroDXZ> *
- [19:31] <ZeroDXZ> ow
- [19:32] <TheDoc> I gtg. C ya guys
- [19:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> For easier access, Adrian, the Thread: http://rpg.megamanpoweredup.net/community/general/928/mikey-s-ideas-5-for-a-better-experience-for-all/
- [19:32] <@MerryBossMan_> See you.
- [19:32] <IceTailsMK4> I goofed on something I said earlier, but I'll talk about it in Xat.
- [19:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> [he's not here, I know, but, he's reading this, and stuff.]
- [19:33] <@MerryBossMan_> Shouldn't it be moved to Development though? :P
- [19:33] <ZeroDXZ> ....
- [19:33] <ZeroDXZ> uh
- [19:33] <IceTailsMK4> I think we're done with the serious business aside from one thing...so I'll just transfer to Xat.
- [19:33] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, Zero, go ahead.
- [19:33] <ZeroDXZ> i...
- [19:33] <ZeroDXZ> kinda had something
- [19:34] <ZeroDXZ> ^ (this...again i'm sorry)
- [19:34] <@MerryBossMan_> Just go ahead.
- [19:34] <MikeyMcScrooge> Nah.
- [19:34] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's ideas. Nothing permanent, yet.
- [19:34] <@MerryBossMan_> I'll PB it.
- [19:34] <ZeroDXZ> it involved the Rankings
- [19:34] <@MerryBossMan_> Just go ahead.
- [19:34] <IceTailsMK4> Oh?
- [19:35] <ZeroDXZ> n...never mind..i saw something really *****d up
- [19:35] <ZeroDXZ> on youtube
- [19:35] <ZeroDXZ> and i forgot
- [19:35] <@MerryBossMan_> Oh?
- [19:35] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright then?
- [19:35] <@MerryBossMan_> You can't remember it?
- [19:35] <@MerryBossMan_> Cause I'm about to PB....
- [19:36] == TheDoc [6320a70f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.32.167.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
- [19:36] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, if it's done.
- [19:36] <@MerryBossMan_> EVERYONE GET OUTTA HERE
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