Emrys Convo

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 8:35 PM
Yes?

emrys - Today at 8:36 PM
heyy i previously blocked you because your weebiness offended my jap sensitivities tbh. but i just now noticed you were threatening to doxx the anons? first of all, most of us are on mobile so our ip addresses are pretty useless. second of all, i was wondering if you wanted to talk this out! bc i think you and i both know that most of these people are actually real poc, and i hope you and i both know that they all have a good point. and that kitty isn’t jewish.

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 8:37 PM
It's nice that you admit you were an anon!
Secondly, why do you use the word "j*p", if you know that word's a slur? Is it the japanese equiviullent of nigga or something? I need to know, just to be clear so I can check it with someone.
Thirdly, kitty is like... Heretically hebrew. Soooooo!

emrys - Today at 8:41 PM
yeah no problem! i actually didnt send any asks to you, just to red, and for some reason none of them got posted even though i sent them off anon. also kittys raised catholic and apparently unhappy that red used them to justify it, according to some of their friends!
i dont think its fair to call anything the equivalent of the n word.
the word “jap” has been used historically to demonize and discriminate against japanese people, and in fact when my family lived in texas certain businesses had “no japs allowed” policies and wouldn’t serve us! there’s no organized movement to reclaim it, and i dont use it often, mostly when im angry
also i dont think “heretically” means what you think it means

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 8:47 PM
Genetically. Whichever. I'm tired and can't spell for squat.
Hereditory. Bluh. English sucks.
Anyway!
I'm going to be really, really blunt.
Red is actively avoiding you AND your little possie of harrassers because.... Surprisingly enough, they don't like being harrassed???
I made a whoooole post about it just a bit ago if you want to read it!
http://roseredmutant.tumblr.com/post/170558540615/okay-humorous-flaunts-of-aggression-aside-anon

emrys - Today at 8:52 PM
youve made a bajillion posts about it and they all sound the same tbh. really none of this was intentional, but jules and red have refused to even acknowledge any criticism of them or their muses.
it’s posse
why were you checking my use of the word jap btw?

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 8:54 PM
You know why.
And. No. You aren't criticising Red, Jules or anyone else. That actually requires talking to any of us which, I know through personal experience, you, specifically don't do.
This? Isn't criticism. It's active harrassment.
And if this sounds repeatitive, that's probably because you're actively harrassing people and don't seem to care!

emrys - Today at 8:56 PM
no i really dont.... can you please explain?

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 8:57 PM
You and your group have actively gone out of your way to slander, belittle and dehumanize (As I've Said In That Post) in order to drive them and me off of Tumblr. And you can't say you haven't because there is now a public screenshot of one of you saying "Get off of tumblr" followed by a short string of insults vaguely disguised with SJ vocabulary.

emrys - Today at 8:57 PM
i do avoid confrontation. i often ask my adult friends to have conversations for me because i know im quick to anger and often end up saying things i regret, something like your average teenager.
oh actually the first one wasnt us
here ill find receipts

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 8:58 PM
I highly doubt it because these similar asks have LITERALLY been coming in Red's inbox daily.

emrys - Today at 8:59 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410275337730260993/410283324653961218/image.png

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 8:59 PM
"For once it wasn't me".
Good to know that these are asks you guys regularly send!

emrys - Today at 9:01 PM
ill tell you straight up im the one who said “for once it wasn’t me”. i dont know what your muses are but i often send anons to weeby blogs, so if youve gotten an anon accusing you of fetishizing japanese people/culture that was probably me!! but otherwise, it wasnt
its a running joke, im usually the only person in that chat who sends asks rather than im

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:02 PM
Oh, I see. So like. Actively supporting and inviting people who send harrassing anons to your friend group is a "running joke" too, right?

emrys - Today at 9:02 PM
and again, why were you checking?
there are less than 10 people in that chat and the number hasnt changed since june

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:03 PM
The number isn't the important thing here.

emrys - Today at 9:04 PM
im saying we havent invited anyone is all
why were you checking, mj?

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:05 PM
I'm not checking, I'm combing through your story.

Which essentially boils down to "We hadn't sent THAT harrassing anon, but we have sent harrassing anons and encourage people doing so."
Which isn't a good look, let me tell you.

emrys - Today at 9:06 PM
what do you mean, you’re not checking? im asking about the jap thing btw

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:08 PM
Oh. I'm checking to see if you actually have any consciousness of the use of the word "j*p". As it doesn't seem like a thing any asian or specifically japanese people I know use. But I'm not so hung up on it to let it dominate the topic of conversation which is

YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS NEED TO STOP PURPOSELY, METHODICALLY SENDING HARRASSING ANONS TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY!(edited)

emrys - Today at 9:09 PM
hey, mj? why won’t you, red, and jules talk to us about making your muses less offensive?

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:09 PM
Sure. When you actually figure out how to communicate that without also being offensive.
Tell me right now, actually.
Apparently you have issues with my muses.

emrys - Today at 9:09 PM
why the fuck would you check whether i have consciousness of it? it’s my word to use however i want.

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:11 PM
Are you going to sit here and argue about why I don't understand why you'd use the word "j*p" or are you actually going to discuss the many ways our muses have become offensive. I'm only here for one of those things and I don't have the knowledge or patience to discuss with you the other.
I'm keeping in mind, mind you, that you, personally, have made and used a character for the sake of "offensive" plots.

emrys - Today at 9:12 PM
which character is that?

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:13 PM
Your karkat and your jade gamzee. A timeline which, again, you made absolutely no effort to really try and communicate any clear issue with us aside from "You said you didn't like a thing I'm doing and I don't care for it".

emrys - Today at 9:15 PM
Which Karkat are you referring to? I've had a total of 14 Karkats active in the last year.

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:15 PM
And a karkat, getting involved with Sugary juuuuust to get tortured? Many would find that pretty offensive!

emrys - Today at 9:21 PM
I wasn't aware that anyone had any issues with my jade Gamzee. Gamzee's culture did not mirror any culture existing on Earth. I created an entire conlang for them. Their culture and systems of oppression were entirely unique to their timeline and the role reversal of Caliborn and Calliope, and their activism movement was a metaphor (pretty heavy-handed, considering it was basically just literal) for a labor union movement and socialist worker's strikes of the early 20th century. Also, the Karkat identified as @caederet was never physically tortured, and that was never the intent. You, however, did have a muse who became involved with the age-regressed Sugary in order to get physically tortured. Karkat "Agony's" involvement was entirely intended as a section of the plot of his work in overcoming complex PTSD, a disorder which I also have. If anyone was distressed by that plot, I would like to apologize to them, and I would have ended the plot without hesitation had anyone expressed discomfort.
Please do keep in mind, also, that I am precisely ten years younger than you, MJ.

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:22 PM
Then why the fuck is you interacting with blogs you KNOW are 18+ dealing with 18+ content? Why do you keep messaging them?
Like. You realize you can get those you RP with -- who you KNOW are well above your age -- in serious legal trouble, right?

emrys - Today at 9:23 PM
I am a junior in high school. I have more important things to do than this. I have a Model UN conference coming up soon that I should really be researching for, but instead I'm giving you my time in the hopes of clearing this all up in a civil manner. I very much do appreciate that you're giving me a chance to talk about this, which I'll get to in just a moment. If you'll let me speak.
"Then why the fuck is you" talking about smut with and flirting with minors in a voice chat, MJ? If you really care so much about these issues? I have very clear boundaries, and I do not roleplay smut or nsfw to any extent that could be problematic, and I make my regular partners aware of my age. I have actually put time into researching the legal precedents regarding this situation in order to make sure I'm not endangering anyone I roleplay with. Roleplay isn't all about smut, MJ.
Anyways.
You consistently assert yourself as what I can only refer to as a fujioshi, which unfortunately is an insult. I don't know how else to put it concisely. You appear from all fronts to fetishize male same-gender relationships, often to the extent of throwing female characters to the side. You have been seen deriding WLW ships and speaking over conversations about how female characters don't get enough appreciation in the RPC.
These aren't issues with your muse, I know. I apologize if I acted like I know enough about your muses to critique them, but frankly I can't always tell one wooby Vantas or Maryam from another. I do, however, have a host of issues with Red and Jules's muses, most legitimately Sun, whose basic information stereotypes and fetishizes Japanese people by having them be a hyper-attractive, fetishized, kinky, extremely sexual ex- sex worker. This could easily be fixed by making Sun not Japanese. I have other issues, but that's the one which always jumps out at me and me personally.

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:46 PM
So, working backwards:

Sun's narrative has always, always, put their fetishization, rape and forced sex work into a negative light. It's a part of their character and it's reflective of real life fetishisation. Again, the narrative Sun is in displays this for the disgusting behavior it is and almost always put's Sun's stark opposition of that sort of culture as a mindset to be encouraged. Yes, Sun is sexual but almost never on their main blog and usually only on their private blog. A character being sexual or kinky isn't a fault. You're not winning that one with me.

Unfortunately, you don't know Lil very well at all! Which, if you had, you'd know he's had relationships with female gendered muses as often as has been allowed him! Which is unfortunately out of my control as I don't control how many people play female muses! He has been in relationships with an NB female, cis female, trans male nb males and a handful of male muses outside of his own Disciple and Psiioniic. Sorry! I don't control how many people take up female muses and how many of them talk to Lil!

As for the voice call! Unfortunately, I actually DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE A MINOR until like... Probably after the fact. Sorry for talking about sex in front of you, I hadn't known.

That said, 18+ content isn't strictly sex. It includes adult content like gore, sex work, racism, abuse and so on. Which! You seem to still partake in with older muns? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Lastly, if you had so much more important shit to be doing, you could... You know... Not be sending HARRASSING ANONS TO OTHER PEOPLE. A point you seem to be missing somehow, despite my repetition.
I guess it doesn't matter, they've said they're not bothering with the RPC on tumblr anymore.
Congratulations! :) You got what you wanted!

emrys - Today at 9:47 PM
Okay. Please let me speak.

MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 9:47 PM
Is it more excuses to continue harrassing people? Cause I'm not for it.

emrys - Today at 10:02 PM
I recognize that Sun's narrative has put their fetishization and sex work in a negative light. That isn't the point whatsoever. The point is, I would have no issue with Sun's sexual anture if they were not Japanese. Sex work, fetishization, and hypersexuality are common, harmful stereotypes of Japanese people, and seeing that portrayed by a white person does make me uncomfortable. Are you telling me you know better than me what's an offensive portrayal of Japanese people and characters? Would you appreciate a white person playing a drug-addicted homeless black guy with a huge dick who was really great at basketball, MJ?
You're still a fujioshi, MJ. The way you infantilize Lil is honestly distressing. He's wooby.
I wasn't in that voice call, MJ. I believe Robin was involved in that, or someone else. I can check for names if you like, MJ, but I know for a fact that people asked you to stop and explained the situation to you immediately after and you did not stop or apologize. I'm not the only minor in the RPC, MJ.
Racism is not 18+ content. The implication that racism is 18+ content is really distressing in a number of ways. Abuse is not 18+ either. Abuse is "viewer discretion," and I have experienced abuse, and I am very discrete. I do not partake in gore or sex work. I don't exploit real life suffering for my enjoyment. I have integrated racism on one blog, and one only, that being a Japanese muse where I worked through a lot of my issues with my cultural identity. When I say I have done research, I mean that I have done research. You're acting like I'm an idiot.
You treated me terribly in Neato's bloodswap, and I remember it, and they remember it. I don't know why you're telling people behind my back that I was strongarming anything. I also notice you haven't made any response to my defense of my muses. It's funny, because that's what your group always does when people like me make good points, which is exactly why it's been impossible up until now to discuss this nicely. Which is why, up until now, I haven't confronted any of you in any way. And again, I haven't sent anons. I don't know how busy those anons are. I put my URL on all my asks. Do you want my home address? I'll give you that too, if you'd like. I'm not afraid of you, and I'm not afraid to say what I believe.
This isn't about me explaining myself to you. This is me extending the figurative olive branch in the hopes that you and your friends can improve, even though research shows the human brain has stopped growing by age 25.
With all due respect, I couldn't care less what you do. But I will speak up for myself, and I do like to believe that the people around me are capable of seeing reason and improving themselves.
MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 10:06 PM
" I also notice you haven't made any response to my defense of my muses. It's funny, because that's what your group always does when people like me make good points, which is exactly why it's been impossible up until now to discuss this nicely."

You mean like pointing out minor misspellings, grammatical errors and misuse of words? Like you've done... pretty much every step you'd gotten the chance to do? Great point. Made. Consider it checked off the list.
As for the Rest.
Again, working backwards:
emrys - Today at 10:06 PM
I mean like my defense of my characters. I mean like my statement to Red regarding my issues with their muse.
Please recognize the validity of my statements if you can't or won't refute them. I know the strategy you're employing.
MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 10:12 PM
"Gamzee's culture did not mirror any culture existing on Earth. I created an entire conlang for them. Their culture and systems of oppression were entirely unique to their timeline and the role reversal of Caliborn and Calliope, and their activism movement was a metaphor (pretty heavy-handed, considering it was basically just literal) for a labor union movement and socialist worker's strikes of the early 20th century."

You can't say that his culture was entirely ficticious when you have union strikes influenced by real world events iin a world that was largely a reflective extremist view of our own world's view on historical racism and oppression by the vast minority and how people are explotied across the social ladder.

" Also, the Karkat identified as @caederet was never physically tortured, and that was never the intent. You, however, did have a muse who became involved with the age-regressed Sugary in order to get physically tortured. Karkat "Agony's" involvement was entirely intended as a section of the plot of his work in overcoming complex PTSD, a disorder which I also have. If anyone was distressed by that plot, I would like to apologize to them, and I would have ended the plot without hesitation had anyone expressed discomfort."

Okay. He didn't get tortured. I can acknowledge that. But I didn't have not one of my characters interact with Sugary to get tortured. I'm assuming no one came to you about it because they were assuming that -- as you've proven many times this conversation -- you'd sooner accuse them of doing wrong instead of initiating discussion about how things could work out for both parties. Which is something that's very recently been confirmed.
"This isn't about me explaining myself to you. This is me extending the figurative olive branch in the hopes that you and your friends can improve, even though research shows the human brain has stopped growing by age 25."

Olive branches don't typically involve insults! Which is something you seem to have a hard time grasping. Thanks for the literal shit stick you've offered, it means nothing and added nothing.
When did I treat you badly? When I suggested that you were perhaps being unfair to Kitty? Had you considered asking more about it? Or were you just comfortable with the idea I was, in ever sense, wrong for my accusation? Because I don't remember hearing anything back from you, even from Neato.
emrys - Today at 10:15 PM
mj called me white - Today at 8:45 PM
i'd like to say, as the mod of the timeline that mj was barely apart of and only came into when it benefited her (shipping) or kitty (for shipping), i felt like emrys did a fantastic job with gamzee's backstory and the jade culture. also, when mj says that emrys came to me when something didn't go their way: emrys came to me twice about the timeline members and those were about kitty and mj being absolute garbage to them, or making them uncomfortable, so don't you dare downplay someone's comfort because you're angry. third of all, emrys wasn't the only person to come to me about those two's actions and words, dj, alex, kasper, and kayak came to me about their actions too.
quote me for a powerplay if you need to
MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 10:15 PM
Most people would consider racism, abuse, rape and so on 18+ material. You don't. Congratulations. I don't know what you were hoping to get from that, but congratulation.
emrys - Today at 10:16 PM
I have never once in my life, nor will I ever, roleplayed rape.
MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 10:17 PM
I'm sorry I didn't realize I was in a chat full of actual minors. My fuck up. I'm sorry.

I don't know how I'm infantilizing him? I've tried to portray him as patient, kind and maybe a little patronizing. Sorry if that didn't come across.

And no. I don't know what it's like to be a Japanese American.
And with all that... I'm done. You clearly don't actually want to talk to much as make clear, blatant insults to me and my intentions in a more timely fashion.
emrys - Today at 10:18 PM
Thank G*d.
MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 10:18 PM
Bye.
emrys - Today at 10:18 PM
I was really hoping to give you a chance.
MorganJame (MJ) - Today at 10:19 PM
Please.