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- [6:00 PM] Attendant: ambassador is like the stock now
- [6:00 PM] Attendant: except for ambassador to be better a 100% of the time than the stock you have to be a literal human god
- [6:00 PM] Kagerou: I think it's fine tbh
- [6:00 PM] Attendant: it isn't dude
- [6:00 PM] Kagerou: no gun is better 100% of the time than the others
- [6:00 PM] Attendant: are you serious
- [6:00 PM] Kagerou: I am serious
- [6:00 PM] Attendant: ok you're retarded i think
- [6:01 PM] Kagerou: Sure
- [6:01 PM] Attendant: like the whole downside of the ambassador
- [6:01 PM] Attendant: was that people would try to shoot for the head when people would die from a body anyway
- [6:01 PM] Attendant: people who aren't good at using it still use it when they can just use the stock and literally destroy a medic in 3 shots
- [6:02 PM] Kagerou: At close range it's absolutely fine though
- [6:02 PM] Attendant: stock is and always was the better option than the ambassador
- [6:02 PM] Kagerou: which is the range you should be aiming for
- [6:02 PM] Kagerou: >always was
- [6:02 PM] Kagerou: clearly fucking not
- [6:02 PM] Attendant: ok
- [6:02 PM] Attendant: you're fighting a scout
- [6:02 PM] Attendant: who isn't a retard
- [6:02 PM] Attendant: so he knows how to dodge the headshots
- [6:03 PM] Attendant: would you rather fight him with an ambassador or the stock
- [6:03 PM] Kagerou: I'd fucking not 1v1 a scout and cloak away
- [6:03 PM] Attendant: milk
- [6:03 PM] Kagerou: still would run away
- [6:03 PM] Kagerou: there's no use in 1v1ing a scout
- [6:03 PM] Attendant: who would NOT use milk on scout in hl
- [6:03 PM] Kagerou: and I can still deal damage with the amby
- [6:03 PM] Kagerou: while running away
- [6:03 PM] Kagerou: killing the scout isn't my job
- [6:04 PM] Attendant: isn't my job, not going to do it
- [6:04 PM] Attendant: interesting logic
- [6:04 PM] Kagerou: Just like killing the pyro isn't my job, yeah
- [6:04 PM] Kagerou: I shouldn't have to do it
- [6:04 PM] Kagerou: a spy is supposed to go for good picks instead of the sloppy seconds like scout
- [6:04 PM] Kagerou: and shouldn't be 1v1ing anyone
- [6:05 PM] Attendant: so you'd rather not fight the scout and let him go twoshot a med instead of dying while fighting
- [6:05 PM] Kagerou: the amby can be used as a surprise weapon as in it can confirm kills really easily at medium-close range
- [6:05 PM] Kagerou: I'd call out the scout so the med doesn't get 2shot
- [6:05 PM] Kagerou: and stays with a demo/solly
- [6:05 PM] Attendant: ah because demo can protect the med from the scout
- [6:05 PM] Kagerou: Scout's not going to go head-to-head with any projectile-class combo
- [6:05 PM] Attendant: with a pretrap maybe
- [6:05 PM] Kagerou: he's going to run away
- [6:06 PM] Attendant: do you know what milk does buddy
- [6:06 PM] Kagerou: but he's already used it on me
- [6:06 PM] Kagerou: apparently
- [6:06 PM] Kagerou: in this situation you put me in
- [6:06 PM] Attendant: you're literally rendered undefeatable in any 1v1
- [6:06 PM] Kagerou: it's a 2v1 essentially
- [6:06 PM] Attendant: no because you ran away
- [6:06 PM] Kagerou: yeah but you said he used milk on me
- [6:06 PM] Kagerou: and I still ran away
- [6:06 PM] Attendant: you chose not to take the fight so you fucked off
- [6:07 PM] Attendant: like you would die if the scout would go after you but he didn't because he didn't use milk
- [6:07 PM] Kagerou: not to mention it's not even technically my fault that the scout could kill the medic if I called the scout out and ran away instead of dying needlessly
- [6:07 PM] Attendant: if he did use milk you're dead regardless
- [6:07 PM] Kagerou: it would be my teams for not being smart enough to protect the med
- [6:07 PM] Attendant: ok enough
- [6:07 PM] Kagerou: spy's not designed for 1v1's with the revolvers imo
- [6:07 PM] Attendant: you're clearly baiting me so don't bother anymore
- [6:07 PM] Kagerou: What
- [6:08 PM] Kagerou: I'm not
- [6:08 PM] Kagerou: How much experience do you have in hl anyway, besides lobbies?
- [6:08 PM] Attendant: you're literally saying the ambassador is good
- [6:08 PM] Attendant: when it's clearly the worst revolver
- [6:08 PM] Kagerou: If you use it in a certain way yeah
- [6:08 PM] Attendant: worse than the enforcer which is fucking garbage
- [6:09 PM] Kagerou: following the crowd isn't a good way of forming your own opinion when people don't even bother to think what it's used for now
- [6:09 PM] Attendant: i played in div4 hl teams before i got league banned for ""cheating""
- [6:09 PM] Attendant: so i made a new account and played dota instead
- [6:09 PM] Attendant: look at this rebel
- [6:09 PM] Attendant: going against the crowd
- [6:09 PM] Kagerou: I'm not attacking you or anything
- [6:09 PM] Kagerou: I'm literally too tired for that
- [6:10 PM] Attendant: you ARE attacking me
- [6:10 PM] Kagerou: Sorry if it comes across that way
- [6:10 PM] Attendant: you're saying the weapon that i've practiced with for 6 years is better in your opinion
- [6:10 PM] Attendant: because you think you know better than me
- [6:10 PM] Kagerou: Uh, no, that last part is something you decided on your own
- [6:10 PM] Attendant: i spent more than half a decade on this weapon i think i know what im talking about
- [6:11 PM] Kagerou: I love this so much
- [6:11 PM] Kagerou: absolutely love it
- [6:12 PM] Attendant: ok explain to me
- [6:12 PM] Attendant: why is pre-nerf ambassador better than the stock
- [6:14 PM] Kagerou: Pre-nerf? The sniping capabilities, duh. It was used a lot in comp HL for that good reason, and being able to deal 102 damage across the map was better than risking death by going in for like 2 50 damage shots
- [6:14 PM] Kagerou: And I never said it was better, I said it was fine
- [6:14 PM] Attendant: you're literally standing in a single spot to snipe
- [6:14 PM] Attendant: you're under threat of anything that kills a sniper because you ARE a sniper
- [6:15 PM] Kagerou: Yeah but you also have the option to change how you play at will since you have a knife and cloak
- [6:15 PM] Kagerou: having the extra damage output was really good
- [6:15 PM] Attendant: THEORETICAL damage ouput
- [6:16 PM] Kagerou: It's good in close combat as well since it does 102
- [6:16 PM] Kagerou: Well not really theoretical if it's pre-nerf, which had 102 as a standard
- [6:16 PM] Attendant: have you ever actually sniped with ambassador
- [6:16 PM] Attendant: it doesn't sound like you did
- [6:16 PM] Kagerou: I wouldn't bother discussing this with you if I didn't
- [6:17 PM] Attendant: why are you implying that ambassador has a sniper scope and everything
- [6:17 PM] Kagerou: I'm not
- [6:17 PM] Attendant: it wasn't easy to snipe across the map like you're implying
- [6:17 PM] Kagerou: you're interpreting it like that
- [6:17 PM] Kagerou: Of course it wasn't easy, but the ability was still there
- [6:17 PM] Attendant: you want me to interpret it like that by the way you're putting things
- [6:17 PM] Kagerou: No, that's bullshit mate
- [6:17 PM] Kagerou: That's forcing your own views on me
- [6:17 PM] Attendant: that's like saying demoman is broken because he can deal 1200 damage in 12 projectiles
- [6:17 PM] Kagerou: that's not cool whatsoever
- [6:18 PM] Attendant: he CAN
- [6:18 PM] Attendant: but he isn't going to
- [6:18 PM] Kagerou: And as I said, it's still viable in close-range because of said damage output
- [6:18 PM] Kagerou: It's very much up to how you play with it
- [6:18 PM] Kagerou: Just like it is now
- [6:18 PM] Attendant: but it isn't fucking made for that don't you understand
- [6:19 PM] Attendant: you literally said yourself that stock is better close range
- [6:19 PM] Attendant: like the only thing that ambassador does better than the stock is it deals more damage in a single shot which might be clutch
- [6:19 PM] Attendant: but that's the only thing
- [6:19 PM] Attendant: stock does more dps, is easier to pull off, and overall more reliable (less chance of head hitboxes screwing around and non-regs are less likely to happen)
- [6:20 PM] Kagerou: Eh
- [6:20 PM] Kagerou: That's not really a convincing argument for me
- [6:20 PM] Kagerou: I'll stay by my opinion
- [6:20 PM] Attendant: and why even use the stock if you can use the "I can't aim, therefore I deserve more cloak" gun
- [6:21 PM] Attendant: your arguments aren't convincing at all
- [6:21 PM] Kagerou: I'm not trying to convince you
- [6:21 PM] Attendant: it's like your perception is skewed or something
- [6:22 PM] Kagerou: I'm just stating my opinion and why I think about it
- [6:22 PM] Kagerou: I've no intention of getting you on my side on this
- [6:22 PM] Kagerou: I already know I won't
- [6:22 PM] Attendant: jesus fuck what did i get myself into
- [6:22 PM] Attendant: i literally have only demented people in my friends list
- [6:22 PM] Kagerou: Okay
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