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  1. 00:13:28: <SMB> Greetings everybody, welcome to the first Poll Committee Chairperson Election Debate!
  2. 00:13:47: <Mariofan169> clap clap clap
  3. 00:14:04: <SMB> Marioguy1 and I will be the co-hosts for tonight.
  4. 00:15:06: <SMB> The rules are that the channel will be muted, so as not to have many interruptions.
  5. 00:15:24: <SMB> If you have any questions for the candidates that are present, please send them to either MG1 or me.
  6. 00:16:05: <Tucayo> Via query
  7. 00:16:06: <SMB> Of course, be sure to send them via query on the chat.
  8. 00:16:12: <SMB> Yes, what Tucayo said. :P
  9. 00:16:42: <TerryDactyl> 3I have something to say though
  10. 00:16:43: <SMB> We will then voice you and have the candidate answer your questions. You will be allowed to do follow-ups when the candidate is done answering.
  11. 00:16:51: <mg1> /query MG1 or /query SMB
  12. 00:16:53: <SMB> Edo: Oh, yes?
  13. 00:17:06: <TerryDactyl> 3You should voice Crash. Its kind of unfair if the runningmates cant talk
  14. 00:17:13: <SMB> Oh, yes, my aologies.
  15. 00:17:16: <SMB> *apologies
  16. 00:17:24: <SMB> `op Crash
  17. 00:18:11: <Crocodile_Dippy> it speaks
  18. 00:18:19: <Crocodile_Dippy> how awful
  19. 00:19:58: <SMB> Also, runningmates will be allowed to assist their candidate answer questions should they opt to do so.
  20. 00:20:36: <Crocodile_Dippy> any questions yet
  21. 00:20:47: <mg1> Yes
  22. 00:20:55: <mg1> The first question comes from Bop (Magus)
  23. 00:20:59: <mg1> It is for both candidates
  24. 00:21:04: <mg1> What do you plan on doing to improve the current state of the Poll Committee and why?
  25. 00:21:19: <mg1> Magus: Do you have anyone you would like to answer it first?
  26. 00:22:17: <Magus> Doesn't matter to me.
  27. 00:23:24: <Crocodile_Dippy> I'm of a multiplatform background, so for one I don't want to severely limit the range of poll questions that can be placed on the front page. Mind, the Mario games will still be the top priority, but it's good to encourage exploration and branching tastes.
  28. 00:23:38: <mg1> OK, I guess DP is first...
  29. 00:24:46: <Crocodile_Dippy> I want to make the committee feel welcoming, but also keep it stern. No negligence on my watch, unless there's a very good reason; but I'll also stick up for the members and ensure they know I appreciate their work. I don't acknowledge bans unless they're permanent, so getting in a bit of trouble on IRC or wherever won't affect the committee in my eyes.
  30. 00:25:34: <Crocodile_Dippy> I'm best at working out changes as I go along, tho, so expect more of that sometime in the future.
  31. 00:25:46: <Crocodile_Dippy> </tangent>
  32. 00:26:23: <mg1> OK
  33. 00:26:23: <mg1> Magus
  34. 00:26:35: <mg1> Does that answer your question (or at least, half of it)?
  35. 00:26:45: <Crocodile_Dippy> oh why
  36. 00:27:05: <mg1> Because Tucayo still has to speak
  37. 00:27:16: <Crocodile_Dippy> no I mean
  38. 00:27:26: <Crocodile_Dippy> the why is Because I like recreation and want the Wiki to have more fun projects that people can enjoy
  39. 00:27:41: <Crocodile_Dippy> and I believe a team is a team, and loyalty is important
  40. 00:28:03: <Crocodile_Dippy> if I don't show loyalty to my staff, how can I expect them to treat me with the same dedication?
  41. 00:29:23: <Magus> I have no follow-up for Dippy.
  42. 00:29:26: <mg1> OK
  43. 00:29:31: <mg1> Tucayo, now, then
  44. 00:30:06: <Tucayo> Seeing how this is a question that deals with the state of the current committee a lot, It would probably be better if someone from inside the committee could elaborate on it. Having said that, my runningmate, Edofenrir, will answer this question
  45. 00:30:20: <TerryDactyl> 3yeah, ok
  46. 00:30:38: <TerryDactyl> 3So, I've been in the Poll Committee for a year now
  47. 00:30:59: <TerryDactyl> 3and it isn't really in an optimal shape
  48. 00:31:37: <TerryDactyl> 3A lot of committee members are mostly inactive
  49. 00:31:45: <TerryDactyl> 3Polls are often made at the last possible minute
  50. 00:31:58: <TerryDactyl> 3It is not really all that efficient.
  51. 00:32:46: <TerryDactyl> 3So what we think is that, before thinking about what fancy new additions to make to the system, we should rather focus on getting the fundamental issues of the committee sorted out
  52. 00:32:55: <TerryDactyl> 3and get the project up and running
  53. 00:33:39: <TerryDactyl> 3Then, once this is accomplished, we can focus on what to implement to make the project more interesting
  54. 00:34:44: <TerryDactyl> 3So like, what I am trying to say here is: "Basic needs come first, expansion later"
  55. 00:35:20: <TerryDactyl> 3To accomplish this, we need some fundamental changes.
  56. 00:35:28: <TerryDactyl> 3An active team.
  57. 00:35:35: <TerryDactyl> 3An increase in motivation.
  58. 00:35:55: <TerryDactyl> 3And an efficient way to make the system work.
  59. 00:36:12: <TerryDactyl> 3Otherwise the whole thing will just fall apart.
  60. 00:36:40: <TerryDactyl> 3That's pretty much the gist of it.
  61. 00:36:46: <TerryDactyl> 3Are there questions?
  62. 00:37:29: <Crocodile_Dippy> man I should've asked you to be my running mate
  63. 00:37:43: <Crash> :'(
  64. 00:37:44: <mg1> Magus?
  65. 00:37:52: <Magus> I have no follow-up.
  66. 00:38:01: <mg1> OK
  67. 00:38:01: <TerryDactyl> 3ok
  68. 00:38:10: <Crocodile_Dippy> Crash, you'll make a fine pet, don't worry
  69. 00:38:10: <mg1> Thank you DP and Tucayo (Edo)
  70. 00:38:12: <TerryDactyl> 3hold it, robot >:(
  71. 00:38:15: <Crocodile_Dippy> you have a snazzy tie
  72. 00:38:29: <TerryDactyl> 3I have one last remark
  73. 00:38:35: <mg1> Remember, send any questions to myself or SMB via query
  74. 00:39:07: <SMB> `devoice Magus
  75. 00:39:24: <SMB> Should you have a question later, Magus, you may be revoiced for the same purposes and whatnot.
  76. 00:39:48: <TerryDactyl> 3can I just say one last thing?
  77. 00:39:49: <SMB> Now, we have a question from Nabber to Tucayo.
  78. 00:39:54: <SMB> Sure, go ahead.
  79. 00:40:02: <TerryDactyl> 3Once the basic requirements for the committee are covered, I agree there is room for some expansions.
  80. 00:40:37: <TerryDactyl> 3What I could imagine is handing some influence over the polls over to the community, within reason.
  81. 00:41:02: <TerryDactyl> 3I'm not entirely sure how to accomplish that efficiently, but
  82. 00:41:30: <TerryDactyl> 3I'm imagining that maybe, users might be given a platform to make poll suggestions to the committee
  83. 00:42:17: <TerryDactyl> 3Since this is a project that is supposed to benefit the community, I think that community input might be beneficial, and should therefore be appreciated.
  84. 00:42:22: <Crocodile_Dippy> that's a fantastic idea. I'm all about voter participation.
  85. 00:42:56: <TerryDactyl> 3It also eases the workload of the committee somewhat
  86. 00:43:08: <TerryDactyl> 3giving them a larger pool of suggestions to choose from
  87. 00:43:24: <TerryDactyl> 3which in turn, will increase efficiency even more
  88. 00:43:44: <TerryDactyl> 3But that's all now, I've been chewing off your ears for long enough <_>
  89. 00:43:55: <SMB> :P
  90. 00:44:27: <SMB> Thank you for the question, Bop, and for the responses from both campaigns.
  91. 00:44:38: <SMB> Now, we have a question from Nabber to Tucayo.
  92. 00:44:43: <mg1> (again)
  93. 00:44:44: <Crocodile_Dippy> Can I just say that I agree with pretty much everything he's saying? Especially the voter thing. I wasn't aware that the current state of the committee was so inefficient. :x
  94. 00:44:50: <Crocodile_Dippy> getting them to make suggestions
  95. 00:45:43: <SMB> Alright.
  96. 00:45:57: <SMB> Nabber said: "He says "That is why, I will also look for a diverse committee. Responsibility is what I'll be looking for in committee members, should I win." What I want to know is, how will he choose who is responsible and what does he mean by diverse members?"
  97. 00:46:11: <SMB> `voice Nabber|iPad
  98. 00:46:16: <SMB> Tucayo, your response?
  99. 00:46:25: <Tucayo> Yes, I'm on it
  100. 00:47:13: <Tucayo> If you had read my campaign, you'd know how I was going to pick the members(...)
  101. 00:47:41: <Tucayo> 2 (or 4) spots will go to my fellow candidates. Why? Well, because since they are running that means they have interest in the process and would work most certainly to improve it.
  102. 00:48:24: <Tucayo> For the remaining spots, I'd use DP's suggestion of an application system(...)
  103. 00:49:00: <Tucayo> To see who will really be interested and who will actually work to improve the current state of the committee.
  104. 00:49:15: <Tucayo> As for the second part of your question,
  105. 00:49:50: <Tucayo> by "diverse" I mean giving newer users a chance to get involved in a team and the community. Which I also mentioned in my campaign.
  106. 00:50:49: <Tucayo> Done. Any follow-ups, Nabber?
  107. 00:51:01: <Nabber|iPad> Nope. Thank you.
  108. 00:51:20: <Tucayo> Thank you for your question.
  109. 00:52:09: <TerryDactyl> 3Diverse should also mean that we will try not to fall into only picking users from one or two groups
  110. 00:53:01: <TerryDactyl> 3That's been the source of displeasure among the community recently
  111. 00:53:39: <TerryDactyl> 3and we don't want to promote the further building of exclusive user cliques
  112. 00:54:07: <Crocodile_Dippy> (at least not in professional circumstances)
  113. 00:54:28: <TerryDactyl> 3yes, that
  114. 00:54:37: <mg1> OK
  115. 00:54:41: <mg1> Thank you candidates
  116. 00:54:47: <mg1> The next question comes from SMB
  117. 00:55:07: <mg1> It is for both candidates
  118. 00:55:09: <mg1> Each year, we have helped the Awards Committee in rotating their polls on the Main Page. My question is, what do you plan to do with Awards polls should you win? Do you have any ideas on how to improve the Awards polls rotations?
  119. 00:55:09: <TerryDactyl> 3ew
  120. 00:55:23: <mg1> Do we have a preference as to who goes first, SMB?
  121. 00:55:50: <SMB> `destroy EDOFEN- uh, no, I do not have a preference. Whoever would like to respond first may do so.
  122. 00:56:24: <mg1> Candidates?
  123. 00:56:40: <Tucayo> I will start
  124. 00:57:26: <Tucayo> We would continue to cooperate with the AC in the rotation, but our aim will be to boost the votes for those polls with the fewest amount of votes(...)
  125. 00:58:25: <Tucayo> Right now, one of the polls featured in the Main Page is A25, Favorite Game, considered a major award. Since it's a major award, I'm pretty sure it has no problems with votes.(...)
  126. 00:59:13: <Tucayo> That is why I would suggest to feature the less-voted awards. Also,they are now in a spot you could easily miss, so of course we need to draw more attention towards them
  127. 00:59:41: <Tucayo> Done
  128. 01:00:11: <Tucayo> Oh wait
  129. 01:00:54: <Tucayo> I forgot to add I will advocate for the Award polls getting another box in the Main Page, but that wouldn't be up to us.
  130. 01:02:08: <Tucayo> Done
  131. 01:02:24: <mg1> OK, Dippy?
  132. 01:05:52: <Crocodile_Dippy> Well I also want to give more attention to awards with lower voter turnout, and encourage people to actually care about those. So yeah, major awards don't need to be rotated much; but I'm very community-oriented, and so is the committee, so I'd probably try to do more for those categories...
  133. 01:07:06: <Crocodile_Dippy> I am part of the Awards Committee, will be part of it next year, and am very close to several members who are seeking to continue running the committee, so I'll have no problems with communication and coordination. And I've a loud voice and a devoted mindset, so I'd be quite persuasive in getting the awards more attention on the front page
  134. 01:07:52: <Crocodile_Dippy> after all, who can say no to the australian with the kukri?
  135. 01:08:08: <Crocodile_Dippy> (ok done)
  136. 01:08:42: <mg1> OK
  137. 01:08:51: <mg1> SMB, do you have a follow-up for either (or both) candidates?
  138. 01:09:18: <SMB> Yes, I do for both candidates (in the same order that they responded to my first question).
  139. 01:09:46: <SMB> Part of Dippy's response actually also reminded me of something I had meant to ask (the "community-oriented" part).
  140. 01:10:59: <SMB> The fact of the matter is that many feel that The 'Shroom and Userpedia Awards also lack much of the attention that the other Awards have (although I will not state my personal opinion on this because it probably differs from how other people might feel about it).
  141. 01:11:11: <SMB> HOWEVER, I would find a response to this interesting nonetheless:
  142. 01:11:50: <SMB> How would you both plan to get the Userpedia and The 'Shroom Awards more attention without just racking up a ton of uninformed voters?
  143. 01:14:02: <TerryDactyl> 3Hasn't Tucayo already answered this?
  144. 01:14:13: <TerryDactyl> 3[02:57] Tucayo We would continue to cooperate with the AC in the rotation, but our aim will be to boost the votes for those polls with the fewest amount of votes(...)
  145. 01:14:15: <TerryDactyl> 3[02:58] Tucayo Right now, one of the polls featured in the Main Page is A25, Favorite Game, considered a major award. Since it's a major award, I'm pretty sure it has no problems with votes.(...)
  146. 01:14:17: <TerryDactyl> 3[02:59] Tucayo That is why I would suggest to feature the less-voted awards. Also,they are now in a spot you could easily miss, so of course we need to draw more attention towards them
  147. 01:15:08: <mg1> I think the question is about users who do not know what The 'Shroom and Userpedia are
  148. 01:15:13: <SMB> So put it on the Main Page to attract hundreds of people that don't even know what these projects are?
  149. 01:15:18: <Tucayo> I can elaborate on that
  150. 01:15:45: <TerryDactyl> 3But in order to prevent that, the projects themselves have to become more notable
  151. 01:16:19: <Tucayo> I think featuring them in UP is a great way to draw the attention of people who actually know who those are. The real solution here would be to cooperate with other aspects of the community, such as the Core Staff, AC and MW and Userpedia Admins
  152. 01:17:44: <TerryDactyl> 3We cannot really overestimate our influence,though.
  153. 01:18:02: <TerryDactyl> 3What we can do is provide some advertising space for those projects
  154. 01:18:13: <TerryDactyl> 3maybe feature polls that have to do with them
  155. 01:18:41: <TerryDactyl> 3but ultimately, the increase of attention for those projects lies in the hands of the project leaders themselves.
  156. 01:18:42: <Crocodile_Dippy> That would be a great idea.
  157. 01:18:51: <Crocodile_Dippy> *hands up*
  158. 01:19:55: <Crocodile_Dippy> Basically, this all boils down to collaboration among community projects
  159. 01:20:55: <Crocodile_Dippy> We should all work together to increase coverage and knowledge of each facet of the community represented in the awards.
  160. 01:21:42: <Crocodile_Dippy> (improving some of the articles on Userpedia - like Ghost Jam's or Wayoshi's - would certainly be useful in giving people a frame for why these people were chosen for Lifetime Achievement, for instance; we could help them improve those articles)
  161. 01:23:41: <Crocodile_Dippy> done, by the way
  162. 01:23:50: <mg1> OK!
  163. 01:23:51: <Crocodile_Dippy> I mean, this is something that can't just be decided right now
  164. 01:23:54: <Crocodile_Dippy> it's a complex issue !!
  165. 01:23:59: <mg1> Thank you!
  166. 01:24:06: <SMB> Alright, thank you both for answering my question. I got everything I needed to know.
  167. 01:24:15: <SMB> (thank you three
  168. 01:24:19: <SMB> **thank you three
  169. 01:24:20: <SMB> :P
  170. 01:24:40: <mg1> So, we will now have a five-minute break
  171. 01:24:49: <mg1> The debate will resume at 9:30 EDT
  172. 01:24:56: <Crocodile_Dippy> thank you, our audience must be so bored of us now lol
  173. 01:25:07: <mg1> Feel free to think of questions to ask the cnadidates, based on what you have seen so far
  174. 01:25:08: <Crocodile_Dippy> 11:30AM for me.
  175. 01:25:13: <Crocodile_Dippy> other side of the world D)
  176. 01:25:16: <mg1> Remember, send them to SMB or I via Query
  177. 01:25:18: <TerryDactyl> 3explode the m!
  178. 01:25:21: <mg1> And yes, that's why I said EDT
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