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- Starbucks: ok
- cat-bot 12: who this
- Starbucks: guy in your game
- cat-bot 12: alright
- Starbucks: I wanna hear from a hacker, what makes hacking fun
- cat-bot 12: its not the killing or the highscores
- cat-bot 12: its the time i spend with the people i like
- cat-bot 12: and they also like cheating
- Starbucks: but can't you spend your time with friends playing the games legit?
- cat-bot 12: i do, sometimes
- Starbucks: what pleasure comes from hacking?
- cat-bot 12: its not the killing or the highscores
- cat-bot 12: its the time i spend with the people i lik
- cat-bot 12: and they also like cheating
- Starbucks: but you can spend your time with friends in ways that don't corrode the community
- cat-bot 12: i could
- cat-bot 12: but this is much more fun
- Starbucks: cuz you're laughing with your friends abt how helpless the other team is?
- cat-bot 12 is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- cat-bot 12: nope
- cat-bot 12: cause we're just enjoying the game
- cat-bot 12: we say goodnight to eachother
- cat-bot 12: we say goodmorning
- Starbucks: but how can you have fun hacking? there's no challenge to it, no adversity to overcome, it's just stealing candy from a baby, over and over again
- cat-bot 12: once again
- cat-bot 12: its not about killing
- Starbucks: ok
- cat-bot 12: or completing the objective
- cat-bot 12: its more about chatting
- Starbucks: so it's something to relate to, a bonding point
- cat-bot 12: yepper
- cat-bot 12: made quite a few friends
- Starbucks: what appeals to you in hacking more than anything else? is it the social time?
- cat-bot 12: yep
- cat-bot 12: 1 am chilling with the dudes
- Starbucks: so you hack because your friends do it or you find something especially appealing in hacking
- cat-bot 12 is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- cat-bot 12: uh
- cat-bot 12: both
- Starbucks: so what do you find in hacking that makes it especially appealing?
- cat-bot 12: the ability to both lose focus in the game and conversate with everyone while still mantaining a high score wait fuck i said its not about the score
- cat-bot 12: well actually im a sad sad man who cant handle failure
- cat-bot 12: so i cheat to avoid failure
- cat-bot 12: and if i lose
- cat-bot 12: i blame the cheat
- cat-bot 12: bam ez
- Starbucks: really? so it's a way to void responsibility for loss, since a hack did the work for you
- cat-bot 12: exactly
- cat-bot 12: im a fan of double standards
- cat-bot 12: if i win, im good and if i lose its because im using a bad cheat or bad settings or a bad team or something
- Starbucks: " if i win, im good"
- Starbucks: isn't more like the cheat is good?
- cat-bot 12: no
- cat-bot 12: because i have to set the settings
- cat-bot 12: and posistion myself
- cat-bot 12: or something
- cat-bot 12: basically i can do no wrong
- cat-bot 12: i am the ultimate in life
- cat-bot 12: i can be the success i never was
- Starbucks: so it ultimately comes down to a power grab? to feel good, that you can win all the time
- cat-bot 12: yes
- cat-bot 12: exactly
- cat-bot 12: im not a good person
- Starbucks: but have you ever thought how failing is an essential part of life?
- cat-bot 12: no
- cat-bot 12: i shouldn't have to work for anything in life
- cat-bot 12: except for money
- cat-bot 12: i wish i had a job
- cat-bot 12: i failed school
- cat-bot 12: i wake up and sit infront of my computer and cheat and eat and drink and sleep and continue
- cat-bot 12: and i want it to continue for the rest of my life
- cat-bot 12: because i like this
- cat-bot 12: dispite being a failure i like this
- Starbucks: because you want to always feel like a winner?
- cat-bot 12: yessir
- cat-bot 12: you know how people play those virtual life games
- cat-bot 12: you know, to compensate for their bad lifes
- cat-bot 12: well i just win online
- cat-bot 12: yay me i guess
- Starbucks: like VR?
- cat-bot 12: ever heard of second life
- Starbucks: as in online? or is it a game?
- cat-bot 12: its a game
- cat-bot 12: where are we headed with this conversation
- Starbucks: I just want to really know why someone hacks, it's always intriguied me
- cat-bot 12: some people do it to get a reaction from others
- cat-bot 12: their the type of people to blow up your house in minecraft for the laughs
- cat-bot 12: other people do it because they have genuine fun doing it
- cat-bot 12: their the type of people to steal from you and honestly think they did nothing wrong
- cat-bot 12: i do it because i want to feel good about myself and i cant handle failure
- cat-bot 12: i like to play with cheats on 2fort while hiding them
- cat-bot 12: i hardly notice the cheats and feel like the victories were won by me
- Starbucks: so your fear of failure has made you insecure about your potential?
- cat-bot 12: right
- cat-bot 12: or something
- cat-bot 12: idk
- cat-bot 12: i start up tf2 without cheats sometimes
- cat-bot 12: i usually end up leaving the game and injecting cheats
- cat-bot 12: due to be doing extremely bad
- Starbucks: do you want to be good at tf2?
- cat-bot 12: no
- cat-bot 12: i used to be legit
- cat-bot 12: 600 hours in though some guy kept making fun of me when i died
- cat-bot 12: so i downloaded free lmaobox to give cheats a try
- cat-bot 12: then i heard of lithium
- cat-bot 12: a decent free cheat
- cat-bot 12: and that was the end of me being legit
- Starbucks: so you someone kinda bullied you into getting cheats?
- cat-bot 12: idk maybe
- cat-bot 12: i didnt have a friends
- cat-bot 12: irl or online
- cat-bot 12: at least now i have some online friends
- Starbucks: wow
- Starbucks: were you ever bullied at school?
- Starbucks: I'm sorry if that was too personal
- cat-bot 12: idk
- cat-bot 12: people called me creepy
- cat-bot 12: some people threw food
- cat-bot 12: etc
- cat-bot 12: not sure if thats bullying
- cat-bot 12: or teasing
- Starbucks: sounds like bullying
- cat-bot 12 is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- Starbucks: so you cheating was the culmination of a fear of failure, a lack of friends to interact with, and the insecurity that came with it, you cheat to put yourself in a bubble to make you feel great and powerful to hide the pain of the past
- cat-bot 12: wow slow down im not saskue or somethign edgy
- Starbucks: ok lol
- Starbucks: but is it something along those lines?
- cat-bot 12: maybe idk
- cat-bot 12: i dont think about life i just live it
- Starbucks: do you feel good outside of your computer? does the great feeling you get from tf2 carry over?
- cat-bot 12: uh
- cat-bot 12: when im listening to music
- cat-bot 12: thinking about what life would be like if i was a white teenager in the midwest
- cat-bot 12: with a band
- cat-bot 12: and friends
- cat-bot 12: then i feel good
- Starbucks: so you're still insecure outside of your computer? there's no shame in being honest
- cat-bot 12: pretty much
- cat-bot 12: but ive been listening to this one song on repeat since two days ago
- cat-bot 12: it makes me feel good
- cat-bot 12: so i feel better than before maybe idk
- cat-bot 12: yesterday i make a reddit post
- cat-bot 12: and it didnt do so good
- cat-bot 12: so i avoided the subreddit for a couple hous
- cat-bot 12: and felt bad whenever i saw a post from there
- Starbucks: but you do have to understand cheating in tf2 is only a quick fix for your insecurity problems, you'll never get better IRL if you keep it up, to me it sounds like an addiction, as long as you stay connected online, you're impervious, but once you go into the real world, reality seeps in
- cat-bot 12: well actually i dont have any plans for life
- cat-bot 12: as i said i just live it
- cat-bot 12: day to day
- cat-bot 12: i plan to do the same thing im doing right now for as long as i live
- cat-bot 12: i dont think about the future
- Starbucks: because everything outside your bubble of tf2 has potential of failure
- cat-bot 12: not really
- cat-bot 12: i play other games
- cat-bot 12: your looking too deep into this
- Starbucks: maybe
- Starbucks: do you really think that you can do this your whole life? a life without failure?
- cat-bot 12: suicide is an option
- Starbucks: you would take your own life to prevent failure from dawning onto you?
- cat-bot 12: well i mean
- cat-bot 12: if my mother ever chooses to kick me out
- cat-bot 12: id be force to
- cat-bot 12: concidered she alienated herself from her family
- cat-bot 12: meaning that i too am alienated from them
- cat-bot 12: outside of my mother i dont have anybody
- Starbucks: will you ever consider accepting life as it is? one that is chalk full of failure and mistakes, hell I could be a multi-millionare right now but my dad made a shitty investment, but my dad didn't take his life because of it
- cat-bot 12: i have accepted life as is
- cat-bot 12: however if i ever stopped being supported by my mother, life wouldnt be as is
- cat-bot 12: because as it stands
- cat-bot 12: i wake up
- cat-bot 12: move to my computer
- cat-bot 12: sustain my hunger and thirst
- cat-bot 12: and sleep
- cat-bot 12: repeat daily
- Starbucks: I can tell you being someone who gets up and does running or golfing or tennis, you aren't living life
- Starbucks: you're living an empty husk of life
- Starbucks: life has so much to offer, you just need to get out there and take it all in
- cat-bot 12: uh
- cat-bot 12: that wasnt a question
- cat-bot 12: that was a statement
- Starbucks: ik
- cat-bot 12: i have nothing to add
- cat-bot 12: i cant keep conversations going sadly
- cat-bot 12: due to the aspergers
- Starbucks: but once you get out there and explore life as it is, you will thank me for opening your world
- cat-bot 12: uh
- cat-bot 12: okay?
- Starbucks: so will you do it?
- Starbucks: will you leave your computer to see what life truly is?
- cat-bot 12: do what
- cat-bot 12: i dont like going outside
- cat-bot 12: or interacting with real people
- Starbucks: so you have accepted life as it is, where you stay at your computer because it feels good, and outside doesn't
- cat-bot 12: yes
- Starbucks: wow
- Starbucks: well, I hope one day you may take my words into consideration and see what life has to offer you
- Starbucks: thank you for your time
- cat-bot 12: i dont think i will in all honesty
- Starbucks: if you give it a try, you can find something like a gaming club or something
- Starbucks: there are people irl who are just like you and relate to you
- cat-bot 12: i dont want to make friends
- Starbucks: why not?
- cat-bot 12: i dont need them
- cat-bot 12 has changed their name to Cert.
- Starbucks: since you have your game?
- Cert: since i have the internet
- Starbucks: and what if the internet dies?
- Cert: i have books
- Cert: i used to read a lot
- Starbucks: have you ever had friends? or any traumatic experiences with them?
- Cert: i had friends
- Cert: then i got a computer
- Cert: and stopped hanging out with them
- Cert: when i finally came back
- Cert: i realized that i couldn't talk to them anymore
- Cert: i lost the know how
- Starbucks: the internet changed you that much?
- Cert: i used to be the defacto leader of the group
- Cert: the charisma
- Cert: the moral booster
- Cert is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- Starbucks: what do you like more? your previous friends or the internet
- Cert is now playing Team Fortress 2. Click here to join.
- Cert: i cant decide
- Cert: ive thought about it before but im 50/50 on it
- Starbucks: all I can say is go get them back, since the life your living right now won't last forever, but friends can
- Cert: 'all i can say' so you're finished?
- Starbucks: yeah, I just hope what I told you will make you reconsider the life you've decided to live
- Cert: i really wont
- Cert: i refuse to change
- Cert: but i hope i helped you see why people cheat
- Cert: or at least, why i cheat
- Cert: because the one reason i dont cheat is to make people angry
- Cert: i leave if someone asks me to
- Starbucks: that's nice to know
- Starbucks: and I did, and I greatly appreciate your time
- Cert is now Offline.
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