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(12:28:37 AM) RyuTheWeredragon entered the room.
(12:28:37 AM) kitsunekit17@gmail.com entered the room.
(12:28:37 AM) Rusty entered the room.
(12:28:37 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com entered the room.
(12:28:44 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Taze, let’s try to talk to Kit about this one more time. Maybe with two of us, it’ll work. :P

And please, no insult throwing.
And please, no insult throwing.
(12:29:27 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: first of all
(12:29:39 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: kit is there a problem with our style of writing?
(12:29:46 AM) KitsuneKit: Hey there.
(12:29:53 AM) KitsuneKit: Not really, I just like Rusty's more.
(12:30:11 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: You do realize we were going to have Rusty write with us too, right?
(12:30:25 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: That’s part of why it’s a writing GROUP
(12:30:25 AM) Rusty: Even I didn't realise that
(12:30:33 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: I’m sure I mentioned it
(12:30:37 AM) KitsuneKit: Understandable.
(12:30:55 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: and rusty no offesnse for the record, but rusty needs a little help with canon chars like ash
(12:31:15 AM) KitsuneKit: But here's the thing, when you go to a resturant and order say... a chicken marsela and they instead bring you a fish sandwich.
(12:31:27 AM) KitsuneKit: I'm sure it's a really good fish sandwich, but that's not what I ordered.
(12:31:42 AM) KitsuneKit: That is kinda mean to say to someone.
(12:32:04 AM) KitsuneKit: But it's alright, I don't mind, I like that actually. I'm not bothered if something isn't canon.
(12:32:29 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Actually, technically, a change of writers would simply be like a change of chefs, not a change of course.
(12:32:59 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Trust me, I’ve had enough food analogies used on me to know this by now
(12:33:11 AM) KitsuneKit: Okay, it's a bad analogy.
(12:33:36 AM) KitsuneKit: But the point still stands. I asked Rusty to write the story, not you.
(12:33:43 AM) KitsuneKit: You can still write a story if you want to.
(12:34:15 AM) KitsuneKit: But I'm still gonna have to insist on a story from Rusty.
(12:34:17 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: And my point still stands. We know what we’re doing, Rusty... not so much.

You have read that Resident Evil fic on his site that he tried to write, right? That was what happens when he tries to attempt official characters without help.
You have read that Resident Evil fic on his site that he tried to write, right? That was what happens when he tries to attempt official characters without help.
(12:34:38 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: I can’t remember if the title was “The End” or “Game Over”
(12:34:42 AM) KitsuneKit: I liked that story.
(12:34:49 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: c_c Wow, your like, the only person. Ever.
(12:35:03 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Especially Ironic as it was meant to be a gift story for me
(12:35:09 AM) KitsuneKit: Ryu, there are no rules to writing.
(12:35:17 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: kit i agree with you, rusty is a great writer
(12:35:17 AM) Rusty: How encouraging. That's like when Gleen says "I didn't die at all and I played on expert" when I played on normal and died a few times.
(12:35:23 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: he's inspired me more then once
(12:35:26 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Au contrare. There are MANY rules to writing.
(12:35:51 AM) KitsuneKit: Where are these rules written Ryu?
(12:36:01 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: but this is somewhere he could use some outside assitance
(12:36:15 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Like, all through your literataure and grammer courses throughout school?
(12:36:21 AM) KitsuneKit: Please, Ryu, I understand what are you trying to do, but I don't understand why.
(12:36:26 AM) KitsuneKit: No, I mean in creative writing.
(12:36:30 AM) Rusty: What literature and grammar courses?
(12:36:42 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: *Pats Rusty’s head* You’re in Canada, they don’t have that there.
(12:36:52 AM) KitsuneKit: What class said that you can't have a character do something that isn't canon with a series?
(12:36:59 AM) Rusty: Sure they do, just not that I remember my school having.
(12:37:04 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: THAT... is more common sense.
(12:37:11 AM) KitsuneKit: Who's common sense?
(12:37:21 AM) KitsuneKit: And why is it not common?
(12:37:32 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: It is common. The thing is, you don’t want to see it
(12:37:46 AM) KitsuneKit: But Ryu, I want to see it.
(12:38:06 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: There’s these fanfic things called “Canon Derailment”, “Out Of Character”, and”Canon Rape”
(12:38:34 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: kit can i share with you another piont?
(12:38:35 AM) KitsuneKit: Okay, I draw my artwork with a tablet and the art program Sai, but that doesn't mean I have to insist that other characters do the same.
(12:38:39 AM) KitsuneKit: Sure thing Taze.
(12:38:53 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: kit?
(12:38:57 AM) KitsuneKit: Yes?
(12:38:58 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: He said sure thing
(12:39:05 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: you know alex
(12:39:08 AM) KitsuneKit: Who?
(12:39:15 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: Alex Warlorn
(12:39:23 AM) KitsuneKit: ...
(12:39:24 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: His handle on FA is “downloader”
(12:39:26 AM) KitsuneKit: *googles*
(12:39:40 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: he was a memeber of our writing group before
(12:39:42 AM) KitsuneKit: Never heard of him.
(12:39:48 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Rusty could tell you stories. ^_^
(12:39:54 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: my piont here is
(12:39:57 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: he picks on rusty
(12:40:09 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: you can even ask him
(12:40:14 AM) KitsuneKit: Aww...
(12:40:16 AM) KitsuneKit: Why?
(12:40:22 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: “If you don’t do this and this and this in the story, I will cause this character’s roboticized mother to be killed by her own daughter.”
(12:40:27 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: getting back at us mostly
(12:40:41 AM) KitsuneKit: But I WANT a story that isn't canon.
(12:40:49 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Then why use a canon character? ?_?
(12:41:01 AM) KitsuneKit: He's not canon.
(12:41:06 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Ash is too Canon
(12:41:09 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Ash is a Canon character.
(12:41:11 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: He’s copywrited
(12:41:17 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: *copyrighted.
(12:41:18 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Whatever.
(12:41:31 AM) KitsuneKit: It's Ash's evil twin brother that was lost in a parallel universe that goes by the name "Ash"
(12:41:58 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Okay, you see, if I don’t let Rusty get away with jokes like that, why would I let you get away with it?
(12:42:08 AM) KitsuneKit: Besides, Ash himself stopped being canon after he changed his Hat.
(12:42:14 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: anyway
(12:42:17 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: my piont is
(12:42:26 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: alex well be looking for holes in this story
(12:42:29 AM) KitsuneKit: Ash himself has said that it was an irreplaceable hat and he just thru it away.
(12:42:32 AM) KitsuneKit: Totally out of character.
(12:42:33 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: N
(12:42:34 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: o
(12:42:36 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: It’s at his house
(12:42:41 AM) KitsuneKit: Still out of character.
(12:42:42 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: You missed the episode
(12:42:50 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: He decided to leave it there so it wouldn’t get stolen again
(12:42:53 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: he'll be looking to sink his teeth into any mistakes in canon
(12:43:03 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: He already does it to my stories
(12:43:12 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Unlike Rusty, I simply don’t give a shit
(12:43:17 AM) KitsuneKit: Okay, so how about this? How about Rusty writes the story and me and him don't publish it?
(12:43:22 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: But Rusty takes the criticism hard
(12:43:52 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: that would be running away
(12:43:58 AM) KitsuneKit: Would that be acceptable?
(12:43:59 AM) Rusty: I don't care much for what Alex says.
(12:44:04 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Rusty.
(12:44:08 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Your last breakdown was because of Alex
(12:44:22 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: rusty you quite writing three times since i've known you
(12:44:32 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: and your writing has been drasticaly effected
(12:44:45 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: all of this was effected by alex
(12:45:50 AM) KitsuneKit: Okay, Ryu, Taze, go ahead write a story. It's alright by me.
(12:45:53 AM) Rusty: I don't want to hide the story. Let him tear it appart. Let him get angry. In fact, I'll put stuff in just to piss him off
(12:46:36 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Which, unless you know how to do that without making it NOT what you want, will just mess up the story in the long run
(12:46:37 AM) KitsuneKit: You guys don't have to answer to me, to Alex or anyone else on the internet, but I also don't have to answer to anyone else on the internet as well.
(12:47:16 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Look, I get what your saying KitsuneKit, and I had already agreed to the other thing.

BUT... And Rusty knew this when he wanted me to bring in Taze... Taze doesn’t like to lose. Ever.
BUT... And Rusty knew this when he wanted me to bring in Taze... Taze doesn’t like to lose. Ever.
(12:47:34 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Since Rusty KNEW He’d fight back, I think this shows how much Rusty really wants to write the story
(12:47:40 AM) KitsuneKit: This is about Winning and Losing?
(12:47:44 AM) KitsuneKit: What are you winning?
(12:48:00 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Okay, he doesn’t like to be wrong
(12:48:09 AM) Rusty: Nobody likes to be wrong
(12:48:13 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: He’s theo nly person I know that can out argue me
(12:48:16 AM) KitsuneKit: I like to be wrong.
(12:48:22 AM) KitsuneKit: :-P
(12:48:39 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: a few times i've won at keeping this group at least boderline democartic, at least a dozen times i've argued for the sanity of others
(12:48:42 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Trust me, we could have started this argument at 1 in the morning and still been arguing at midnight.
(12:48:57 AM) Rusty: Sometimes I like it when people give me a reason to argue with them. I'm the guy that sits with my finger on the red button saying "Go on, give me a reason, I fucking dare you."
(12:49:01 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: but those where before alex left
(12:49:26 AM) KitsuneKit: Ryu, kill me.
(12:49:31 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: XD
(12:49:35 AM) KitsuneKit: That's the only way you are going to stop me.
(12:49:59 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: I was going to, but now that you asked, if I do it, it’ll be too obvious that it was me
(12:50:07 AM) KitsuneKit: Because if not. *I* will write the story, and it will be godawful.
(12:50:49 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: I could make a scathing comment here, but I promised I’d keep it civil
(12:51:07 AM) KitsuneKit: Ryu, to put it quite bluntly, I don't like your stories.
(12:51:21 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: how about this kit
(12:51:22 AM) KitsuneKit: I find them dull and uninteresting. Sorry.
(12:51:31 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: we put the option to the one who should have it
(12:51:38 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: rusty?
(12:51:44 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: would you take help from me and ryu?
(12:51:47 AM) KitsuneKit: I still think you have great potential, but I don't like them so much.
(12:52:14 AM) Rusty: I dunno, I just don't know. There are a lot of things about Sonic I wish I'd never found out and I don't want the same happening here.
(12:52:32 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Which is why we were going to keep the Jak and Daxter info to a minimum
(12:52:42 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Considering I’m not too fond of the series myself.
(12:52:59 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: All I know is that they’re ripping off the Werehog thing for the next game
(12:53:13 AM) KitsuneKit: Why does this have to be about Jak and Daxter?
(12:53:17 AM) Rusty: They're making another? Don't they know the meaning of enough is enough?
(12:53:20 AM) KitsuneKit: Or Pokemon?
(12:53:31 AM) KitsuneKit: This is just about Ash and Ottsels.
(12:53:33 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Because the plot shown in the very PIC is Pok�mon based
(12:53:42 AM) Rusty: It's a shame too as ottsels are pretty sexy I mean cute little things
(12:53:51 AM) KitsuneKit: Which the picture itself is not canon.
(12:53:55 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: c-c Rusty, we already know your gay for them, you don’t have to hide it
(12:54:12 AM) KitsuneKit: HEY!
(12:54:15 AM) KitsuneKit: I'm gay for them too.
(12:54:36 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Your point? I’m just saying Rusty doesn’t have to backpedal every time he says that
(12:54:48 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: If I’m not used to it by now, I never will be
(12:55:28 AM) KitsuneKit: Ryu, Taze, what is your answer to this?
(12:55:57 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Depends on what “This” is
(12:55:57 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: i can keep details to a minimum
(12:56:04 AM) KitsuneKit: What is the end result to this disagreement?
(12:56:42 AM) Rusty: Part of the problem is that I got into it thinking it was about the ottsels. It would like getting into Bioshock thinking it's about the little sisters and only that (okay, they're adorable, but everything else about the game, not so much)
(12:57:07 AM) Rusty: And it's not even the teen hero thing as that sort of plot -- I just don't see it happening with adults.
(12:57:11 AM) KitsuneKit: Ryu, is it that you want to write the story?
(12:57:51 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: That, and how guilty I feel over having Rusty pay 25 dollars for me on a pic, and I can’t really do anything of the sort for him, because of overprotective parents
(12:58:15 AM) KitsuneKit: Okay, so write the story.
(12:58:26 AM) KitsuneKit: Knock yourself out with it.
(12:58:32 AM) KitsuneKit: You win.
(12:58:36 AM) KitsuneKit: *clap clap clap*
(12:59:00 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: c_c I’ve been sarcastic long enough in my life to be pretty sure when I see sarcasm on the net.
(12:59:09 AM) KitsuneKit: No, seriously do it.
(12:59:21 AM) KitsuneKit: I'm just tired of the drama around this.
(12:59:40 AM) KitsuneKit: I'm sorry that I want something from someone that you consider to be imperfect.
(12:59:49 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Did you hear me at all?
(1:00:10 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: That stuff is mostly what Taze is worried about. I’m worried about this guilty feeling that I have and not repaying a debt.
(1:00:26 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Yes, I was arguing for Taze yesterday. Sue me.
(1:00:33 AM) Rusty: Why not gift me a game on Steam or something?
(1:00:40 AM) KitsuneKit: It's okay.
(1:00:41 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Same reason I can’t gift you a pic
(1:00:53 AM) KitsuneKit: It's alright dudes. I don't care anymore.
(1:00:59 AM) KitsuneKit: I just won't read the story is all.
(1:01:03 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: “What are you using that money for?”
(1:01:19 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: *Insert truth*
“No.”
(1:01:41 AM) KitsuneKit: Seriously, it's alright.
(1:02:25 AM) KitsuneKit: Okay, so if this is gonna be the whole story team, let's talk about some ideas for the story.
(1:02:25 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Look, I didn’t want you to get exasperated.
(1:03:04 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: well ottsels are split into two main groups
(1:03:12 AM) KitsuneKit: Rusty and I had a nice idea about, remember that scene in Sword and the Stone where Authur is turned into a squirrel and a squirrel girl keeps hitting on him?
(1:03:15 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: animals, and precursers
(1:03:16 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Well, I was thinking of implying the shopkeeper was someone from Jak and Daxter’s world. I mean how else would he get Dark Eco?
(1:03:28 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: And yes, I remember that
(1:03:30 AM) KitsuneKit: And he's all like, "no, not really into you that way."
(1:03:31 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: And was going to implement that
(1:03:54 AM) Rusty: And if I were him, I'd let her have her way with me. Seriouslly, I can't say no to squirrel, especially a red squirrel
(1:04:00 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: ^^;;;
(1:04:13 AM) Rusty: a female at that (L)
(1:04:19 AM) KitsuneKit: Ottsels aren't really two groups. All ottsels are precursors.
(1:04:37 AM) KitsuneKit: But it doesn't really matter either way, as I don't really see that being an issue in the story.
(1:04:47 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Actually, the wiki said that all Precursuors are Ottsels, but they haven’t clarified if all ottsels are precursors.
(1:05:04 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com: i g2g later
(1:05:08 AM) tazkolmasterofemeralds@hotmail.com left the room.
(1:05:10 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: c_c
(1:05:13 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Well, it is late
(1:05:23 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Nevermind it’s his fault for coming on at midnight rather than his usual time
(1:05:24 AM) KitsuneKit: Show me an ottsel in Jak and Daxter canon that isn't a precuror.
(1:05:26 AM) Rusty: I only like the design of them. That's why I asked for commies of them, I just the design, that's all. I didn't want any of the drama of angst
(1:05:39 AM) Rusty: *or the
(1:05:42 AM) KitsuneKit: That's all I really like about Ottsels as well.
(1:05:45 AM) KitsuneKit: They are so cute.
(1:06:03 AM) Rusty: I just wanted a little buddy to hug and stuff.
(1:06:10 AM) RyuTheWeredragon: Well, we were going a bit deeper as I try not to make all my stories “Setup, TF, The End!”
(1:06:17 AM) KitsuneKit: I want to be that little buddy to hug.
(1:06:32 AM) KitsuneKit: But that's all I'm really looking for... but if you want to write it differently that's okay.