Outclassed [kitkit]

[18:36] * Khavah TROLLs "Afiqah" (Right then. Are you ready to start me teaching you now?)
[18:37] <@Afiqah> 03PESTERs "Khavah" : (Uhm, sure. Now works.)
[18:37] <@Afiqah> 03PESTERs "Khavah" : (Where should we meet?)
[18:38] * Khavah 2TROLLS "Afiqah" (My spire work? I've set something up on a floor for this)
[18:38] <@Afiqah> 03PESTERs "Khavah" : (Oh, okay. I'll start making my way over.)
[18:39] * Khavah 2TROLLS "Afiqah" (Okiedoke. 21st floor. Be sure to wear something you can move around easily in)
[18:40] <@Afiqah> 03[You change in to the clothes you tend to use when you're forced in to engage in hard or long term physical exercise before heading over. Doesn't take more than ten minutes to do so. Calling out nervously "Uhm, hello?" when you finally do arrive.]
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[18:42] <Khavah> 2["Hey, there," you say, waiting for them. You, too, are in workout clothes. The room's bare, nothing but a mat on the floor and a small cupboard near the door. "So. First thing's first. I have no idea how much you've already got. So go ahead and attack me without any weapons and we'll go from there." You gesture for her to begin, from the center of the room.]
[18:43] <@Afiqah> 03["Oh. Uhm." You look suddenly nervous. "Just like that?"]
[18:46] <Khavah> 2[You shrug. "Sure. It's good for me to know how much you know already so I don't start with stuff you already know or something. However you feel comfortable doing so." You seem relaxed and calm, in contrast. "Don't worry about hurting me, I can take a punch, and I won't start whaling on you in return just yet."]
[18:48] <@Afiqah> 03[That...makes you feel a little better? You walk up to her and throw a punch, but it's immediately clear you've neither had training and are pulling your punches subconsciously. Theres a little strength behind it, you carry and move a lot of relatively heavy things for your experiments, but it's still weaker than most replayers would have.]
[18:53] <Khavah> 2[You don't make any move to block or dodge the punch, simply tensing your stomach muscles. It feels more like punching a brick wall than normally punching someone would. You give her a flat look. "That's the best decision you have? Come on, try to hurt me here."]
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[18:57] <@Afiqah> 03[You mumble something under your breath as you shake your fist before coming at her again. This time aiming at her chin with a hook, even if it is awkward with the height difference.]
[19:00] <Khavah> 2[You do dodge this one, this time, leaning back and taking half a step back so it whooshes past you. "Bit better, could be even more so. Once more."]
[19:04] <@Afiqah> 03[You briefly contemplate trying to grab at her horns, but if she's dodging the punch the horns are even more unlikely for you to grab. You decide to try something else, swinging at her chin again, but using the momentum of the hook to turn in place and try and kick her side. Unfortunately, it's painfully clear that while you know it can be done, you've never actually, you know, done it before.]
[19:06] <Khavah> 2[You dodge again, and catch her leg, wrapping your arms around it. "Kicks are strong, but easy to see. Go with knees in closer combat, so you don't have someone do this." You shift your grip and raise it up, above your shoulders, then your head, until she loses her balance and falls. "Afiqah, do you know what the most important part of fighting is?"]
[19:10] <@Afiqah> 03[You fall to the ground with a thud and all the grace of a brick. "...no?" You atleast, don't sound resentful. You know you're bad at this.]
[19:13] <Khavah> 2[Good thing you have mats down. You squat near her head. "It's not power. It's not skill. It isn't even experience, although all those things can help." You tap her on the chest. "It's in here. You need to want to win. You need to desire, bone-deep, sincerely, to hurt whoever you're up against, to do whatever you need to to survive and win."
[19:14] <Khavah> 2["If you don't have that, then when you're up against someone who does, well. You're going to get torn apart. And part of that desire is being willing to cripple, maim, or kill. Don't have to like it, just have to be willing to do it." You straighten up, and offer her your hand.]
[19:15] <@Afiqah> 03["Oh." You glance to the ground and rub your elbow where you fell on it. You're honestly not sure you do have that willingness. You look at them and take their hand, getting to your feet.]
[19:18] <Khavah> 2[You notice her hesitation. "I don't expect you to be able to flip that on right here, right now. And frankly, sometimes it's not necessary. 'Survive' is the key word, here, not 'win'. Although, in most cases, you probably need to throw more than one punch to do that." You raise an eyebrow to her.
[19:19] <Khavah> 2["Here, let's go through this again. I am an angry troll, whose, I dunno, matesprit you were found curled up with, and I have come to tear you limb from limb. Where would you hit me?" You gesture to yourself.]
[19:20] <@Afiqah> 03["Oh." You state again, as acknowledgement. "Uhm. If it was less awkward to reach. Probably your horns?"]
[19:23] <Khavah> 2[You nod. "Not a bad choice. Hard for me to move when you've got a good grab on my horns." You move closer to her and bend your head down to mimic that. "Although touching someone else's horns is not something you just /do/, we have established that you need to do whatever you need to, and that means breaking some proprietary if need be. But..."
[19:24] <Khavah> 2[Head still in position, you swing your arms in deliberately slow punches. Your knuckles bump against her face, her ribs, her neck. "You're up against someone who's pissed off, stronger than you, and is alive /because/ they have demonstrated aptitude at killing. You don't wanna be within arm's reach."
[19:26] <Khavah> 2[You straighten up and, with deliberate care, gently place your heel on her knee. "A solid stomp here, though? That'll cripple me. Not just momentarily, either; an injury like that'll get you culled on Alternia, even for a highblood like me. And that'll definitely leave them out of the fight for good."]
[19:27] <@Afiqah> 03["Oh. That's, uhm, going to be hard for me against, well, just about anyone though?" You frown, thinking how you could get around this, but as far as hand-to-hand, nothings really coming to mind until they show you. "Oh. Well thats, uhm, something. But I still have to get within arm's reach for that?"]
[19:31] <Khavah> 2[You nod. "That's right. And thus, my advice to you if I have a sudden, burning need to murder you and you don't want me to?" You flash a grin to her. "Stay away from me and try and put a bullet in me." You shrug. "But if that's not an option, well, you're gonna have to do something else. My point with grabbing my horns is that it merely inconveniences me."]
[19:33] <Khavah> 2["Mmmmaybe if my horns were sensitive it'd do more?" You frown in thought. "Fuck if I know why some trolls have sensitive horns though." You shrug it off. "Another, ever popular method of attack is this." You step closer and suddenly knee her in the crotch. Not at full strength, but you're not merely tapping her now.]
[19:34] <@Afiqah> 03[You nod at the horn comment. "Ah. That's, uhm, what I'd normally do if I have to fight something." You're atleast good at firing a rifle. "Or, I suppose, using a missile if I really want something gone, but, well, this is about for when I don't have tho-ack."]
[19:42] <@Afiqah> 03[Oh god that hurt. You slowly collapse to the floor in pain as you crunch up around where they hit you.]
[19:44] <Khavah> 2[You squat next to her again. "So, grabbing my horns would inconvenience me. Tell me, would 'inconvenienced' describe your current condition? 'Mildly uncomfortable and irritated', perhaps?"]
[19:45] <@Afiqah> 03[You're half tempted to quit here and now, but you know that won't help.]
[19:45] <@Afiqah> 03[Doesn't mean you have to be happy about it.]
[19:45] <@Afiqah> 03["No." You mumble before cursing in Arabic as you get to your hands and knees.]
[19:48] <Khavah> 2["Didn't think so. And, if I were your opponent..." You straighten up, and lightly tap the toe of your shoe to the side of her head, then her ribs, before placing the sole of your foot on the back of her neck, just enough so she feels it. "I'd have my choice of prime targets to kick the shit out of you, or enough time to run away."]
[19:49] <Khavah> 2["Horns are a better opening gambit than punching my stomach, sure, but not as good as some others."]
[19:51] <@Afiqah> 03["Yes, I get that now, thanks." You say annoyed. "Maybe some actual training instead of just hurting me when I don't know something. Cause that sounds a lot more productive."]
[19:54] <Khavah> ["See, though, a lot of fighting is experience. And willingness, as I mentioned earlier, isn't limited to just doing damage, it's taking it, too. A lot of pain here will make lesser amounts seem even less so. Observe." You wait until she's not putting her wait on her arms, and then punch her in the shoulder.]
[19:55] <Khavah> ((*hard enough to bruise))
[19:55] <Khavah> ["I just kneed you in the crotch, does that punch feel like a big deal in comparison?"]
04[19:58] <@Afiqah> ["Still hurts." You huff. Rubbing the shoulder now. As you slowly get to your feet, making sure theres some distance between the two of you now. You don't want anymore of that type of training right now.]
[20:00] <Khavah> ["Afiqah, I have some bad news for you," you say, somberly. "Fighting hurts. The trick is to making sure it's pain you can take." You see the distance, and decide to try something. You take a sudden step towards her, as though going to continue on the Hard Knocks training.]
04[20:02] <@Afiqah> [Take a step back with them. "Well, yes, I know that." Even if you're still not quite /understanding/ that. "But that's all you're really teaching me right now execpt for a few specific things."]
04[20:03] <@Afiqah> ["Yes, good job. You've taught me pain hurts. But I've gotten nothing else that'd really help."]
[20:07] <Khavah> [You shrug. "The way I learned to fight was someone kept beating the shit out of me until I made them stop, so it's entirely possible I have a skewed sense of things here." You frown in thought for a bit. "Right. Come at me again. I'll break it down."]
04[20:08] <@Afiqah> ["Just a bit." You say, continuing to be annoyed. "Because lets be honest. Am I ever going to be able to stop you as we are right now?"]
[20:10] <Khavah> [You shrug. "If I take the route of kick the shit out of you until you make me stop, well, no. And frankly, I am where I am because I have sweeps of experience, it's incredibly unlikely that I am going to get you to that point at all in this session. I'm trying to help point you on the right path, and it's up to you to grind it into your head with practice."]
04[20:12] <@Afiqah> ["I'm not going to come at you unless you promise not to hurt me for making a mistake. Because thats all I'm likely to make right now."]
[20:14] <Khavah> ["Pain's a good teacher, so they say. Pretty sure this is one of those things where it is. But no, I am not going to hurt you for screwing up. Didn't intend to, really."]
04[20:16] <@Afiqah> ["mmm." You stand there, looking at them trying desperately to think of some way you can hit them without it being blocked, parried, or otherwise avoided. And you're not coming up with a whole lot unless you cheat by using aspect powers. You might just do that anyways because you kind of want some sort of retribution hit.]
[20:19] <Khavah> [That'd be a good segue into the 'use every advantage you have' lesson, although of course you'd retaliate by using your own aspect powers and ending up practically untouchable.]
04[20:24] <@Afiqah> [You sigh, and finding nothing that you can do without resorting to Time trickery deside to simply come at them. Trying to jab your foot in to their lower leg from a distance, atleast you can get lower to the ground that way and stay a little further out of arm's reach.]
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[20:31] <Khavah> [You let it hit you, wincing a bit. "Stings, but not a lot. This is where you would want to aim for the knee, assuming that you want to keep your distance. Which is smart, due to my aforementioned ability to rip you apart."]
04[20:33] <@Afiqah> ["...as stupid as it sounds, I don't actually want to hurt you." You explain. "And with the, uhm, comment you said about it crippling people..."]
[20:39] <Khavah> [You shrug. "It'd sound stupid if this was a real fight, but it's not. Some self-control is to be expected. And don't worry about me; I've gone through much worse." You frown for a second, before coming on an idea. "Here, lemme just..."
[20:40] <Khavah>  [Spatial Perception]
[20:40] <Khavah> ["Okay. Feel free to go nuts, you're not gonna hit me if I don't want you to." Your eyes sparkle, as though they contain distant stars.]
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04[20:44] <@Afiqah> ["Oh, uhm." You try again, aiming at their knee this time. Still acting like she'd hit you if you got in range of them. Just testing it for now.]
[20:45] <Khavah> [You step back with this leg, so her leg's extended. "Now what do you do?"]
04[20:47] <@Afiqah> ["Uhm. I don't know? I suppose you could step on to my leg at this point." You're starting to expect there is no right answer to this.]
[20:49] <Khavah> ["I could, yes, if you give me room to think. You set your foot down..." you do step on her leg at this point, just enough to put pressure on it for her to put it down. "...And your center of balance moves forward. Use that momentum to move even more forward and keep up the attack."]
04[20:50] <@Afiqah> ["Oh." You try that, throwing a punch at their jaw this time.]
[20:55] <Khavah> [You lean back. "And now, avoiding your attack, I'm like this. Off-balance, weight on my back leg, other leg extended and no real weight on it. This'd be a good opportunity to stomp on my knee and take that leg out of commission, then follow up with another thing I'd need to shift to avoid. In fact, anything that'd require  me to move my legs away is a good
[20:55] <Khavah> move."]
[20:56] <Khavah> [You gesture for her to keep going.]
04[20:56] <@Afiqah> ["Ohhhh. Okay." Try doing those three things in combination now, one after the other.]
[20:58] <Khavah> [You, of course, don't let her stomp her leg, moving it to the side and up. It's now not on the ground, and you don't put it down when she comes at you again. You try to shift, but end up falling flat on your back. "And now I am on the ground. You can continue the assault, or run while I pick myself up."]
04[21:00] <@Afiqah> ["I'm, uhm, pretty sure that'd be running." Which brings up another question. Thinking of how to word it as you offer your hand to them to get up. "How do I, uhm, stop someone who's charging at me?"]
[21:04] <Khavah> [You do the 'pick yourself up' part. "Kneecapping continues to be a good thing to do." The Khavah Kirbir school of combat is pretty big on kneecapping. "Stepping to the side is also a good thing to do. Someone who's charging can't really turn that well. Trip 'em and send them flat on their face."]
04[21:05] <@Afiqah> ["Oh. Okay. But the kneecapping thing doesn't really stop them immediately does it?"]