2:01 PM - Bets: Our players are HollaHolla and I
2:02 PM - Bets has changed their name to [NN] Bets.
2:02 PM - DaveW: So its gonna be 2 vs 3?
2:02 PM - [NN] Bets: Yea
2:02 PM - DaveW: aww
2:07 PM - DaveW: Is the lobby etc set up? Cause tsavong isnt replying to me
2:07 PM - [NN] Bets: I think they are fucking around.
2:08 PM - DaveW: ahh okay
2:09 PM - [NN] Bets: They want to do 2 v 2
2:09 PM - DaveW: ooooh
September 14, 2014
2:10 PM - Your chat with DaveW is now a multi-user chat.
2:10 PM - DaveW has been invited to chat.
2:10 PM - Tsavong has been invited to chat.
2:10 PM - Tsavong entered chat.
2:10 PM - [NN] Bets: Ok.
2:10 PM - DaveW: helloo
2:10 PM - [NN] Bets: So we can either do: map, ban, pick pick
2:10 PM - [NN] Bets: Or map ban pick ban pick.
2:11 PM - [NN] Bets: I am fine altering the rules for a 2 v 2
2:11 PM - [NN] Bets: But because I am playing, don't want to be the only call
2:11 PM - [NN] Bets: Also, let me remove bots quick
2:11 PM - DaveW: I think doing ban/pick/ban/pick is more consistent with the other games, since its about having counter picks/bans etc
2:12 PM - [NN] Bets: This is why I was suggesting.
2:12 PM - DaveW: Yeah well, its your call in the end I guess but I would say that way is better
2:13 PM - [NN] Bets: I'll let Tsavong have a say.
2:13 PM - Tsavong: hmm
2:13 PM - Barbie entered chat.
2:14 PM - Barbie: hey
2:14 PM - Barbie: yo Bets
2:14 PM - [NN] Bets: Do you know what I just suggested?
2:14 PM - Barbie: brief me plz
2:15 PM - [NN] Bets: 2:11 PM - DaveW: I think doing ban/pick/ban/pick is more consistent with the other games, since its about having counter picks/bans etc
2:15 PM - Barbie: wait a min man
2:15 PM - [NN] Bets: or do: ban pick pick
2:15 PM - Barbie: where is your third to begin with?
2:15 PM - [NN] Bets: Our 3rd, 4th, and 5th are no shows
2:16 PM - Barbie: so you wanna do 2v2 or 3v2 normal naut games?
2:16 PM - [NN] Bets: If you guys want to do 2 v 2 its fine.
2:16 PM - [NN] Bets: But if you want 3 v 2 whatever
2:16 PM - Tsavong: we want a 3v3
2:16 PM - [NN] Bets: Wasn't my suggestion to 2 v 2
2:16 PM - [NN] Bets: You aren't getting 3 v 3
2:17 PM - [NN] Bets: 2 things are true: we start now and we only have 2 players
2:17 PM - Barbie: what does that even mean ? who is forcing you ?
2:17 PM - Barbie: if you want to play some high level privates then lets do some 2v2 deathmatches
2:17 PM - [NN] Bets: I am forcing it.
2:18 PM - Barbie: but isn't this supposed to be a league thing?
2:18 PM - [NN] Bets: I want this game done now
2:18 PM - [NN] Bets: Yes it is.
2:18 PM - [NN] Bets: So as part of the rules
2:18 PM - [NN] Bets: If you can't field a team you play down players
2:18 PM - [NN] Bets: Lets not delay this further
2:18 PM - Barbie: so we ll just have a broken game
2:18 PM - [NN] Bets: Better than no game
2:18 PM - Barbie: -__-
2:19 PM - Tsavong: that makes no sense
2:19 PM - [NN] Bets: Lets go
2:19 PM - Tsavong: just wait
2:19 PM - Tsavong: for 3v3 lol
2:19 PM - Barbie: a guy of yours may be online in a couple of hours
2:19 PM - [NN] Bets: Today is the FINAL day to play this game
2:19 PM - [NN] Bets: In a couple hours I am gone
2:19 PM - [NN] Bets: We play now or never.
2:19 PM - [NN] Bets: Never is not an option
2:19 PM - Barbie: then lets wait till then and make it a 3v1
2:19 PM - [NN] Bets: Unless you guys forfeit
2:20 PM - Barbie: we aren't playing 2v2 or 3v1 nauts
2:20 PM - [NN] Bets: Then NN wins by forfeit.
2:20 PM - Barbie: also if you want to force things try not participating at least
2:20 PM - Barbie: like burrhe did
2:20 PM - [NN] Bets: Dude.
2:20 PM - [NN] Bets: This is a late game
2:20 PM - [NN] Bets: And on top of that, its the final day
2:20 PM - Tsavong: you made it late lol
2:20 PM - [NN] Bets: If it were not to be played
2:20 PM - [NN] Bets: I would decide which team forfeits based on who didn't commit.
2:20 PM - [NN] Bets: IE no shows
2:21 PM - Tsavong: well we're both here
2:21 PM - Tsavong: so that doesn't count
2:21 PM - [NN] Bets: But I decided to avoid forfeits outright by giving teams a chance to 2 v 3
2:21 PM - [NN] Bets: So we play now
2:21 PM - Barbie: basically you just want it done for cause you have other things to do later
2:21 PM - [NN] Bets: No.
2:21 PM - Barbie: bullshit
2:21 PM - [NN] Bets: I want it done because I am already delayed 2 weeks now because of all this
2:21 PM - [NN] Bets: And I want teams to actually put in effort
2:21 PM - DaveW: lol, sorry I dont understand why IWTN is complaining about this
2:21 PM - [NN] Bets: We have not put in effort this time around.
2:21 PM - Barbie: what ? we have only been accepted 1 week in
2:21 PM - [NN] Bets: We dropped the ball, we get punished
2:21 PM - Barbie: and already played boss
2:22 PM - [NN] Bets: So whats it going to be?
2:22 PM - [NN] Bets: We play now, or you take the loss
2:22 PM - [NN] Bets: Because we are not taking a forfiet
2:22 PM - [NN] Bets: We would rather lose 2 v 3
2:22 PM - [NN] Bets: or 1 v 3
2:22 PM - Barbie: so you wanna play 2v2 with bans and everything?
2:23 PM - [NN] Bets: You guys suggested 2 v 2. I said I was ok with changing it to 2 v 2 if yo uguys refused to play 2 v 3
2:23 PM - [NN] Bets: In which case I proposed we do ban then pick then ban then pick
2:23 PM - [NN] Bets: To which DaveW agreed giving an explanation
2:23 PM - [NN] Bets: But because I am a player, I want you guys to have a say in it too
2:23 PM - [NN] Bets: So that there is no bias nonsense
2:23 PM - Tsavong: give us a sec
2:24 PM - [NN] Bets: It sucks that this wont be a real game.
2:24 PM - [NN] Bets: But I want to stick to deadlines.
2:24 PM - [NN] Bets: Because look how shitty NST has become
2:24 PM - [NN] Bets: Because no body plays their games
2:24 PM - [NN] Bets: Look how APL failed
2:24 PM - Tsavong: lmao
2:24 PM - [NN] Bets: Nobody played their games
2:25 PM - Tsavong: nst finals are happening now
2:25 PM - Tsavong: like now
2:25 PM - [NN] Bets: Yeah they were supposed to happen 3 weeks ago
2:25 PM - Tsavong: and you say nobody is playing their games
2:25 PM - [NN] Bets: or at least 2 weeks ago
2:25 PM - Tsavong: lmao they're happening
2:25 PM - [NN] Bets: They posted about the finals 2 weeks ago lol
2:25 PM - Barbie: if you want to do it lets do a 2v2 deathmatch at least
2:25 PM - [NN] Bets: Yes because it has been delayed till now
2:25 PM - Barbie: normal 2v2 nauts is stupid
2:25 PM - [NN] Bets: No real game. No deathmatch
2:25 PM - Barbie: and keep the ban system the same
2:25 PM - Barbie: real game means 3v3
2:25 PM - Barbie: it's nauts ffs
2:26 PM - [NN] Bets: The rules in game are consistent
2:26 PM - [NN] Bets: Here are your options. And your only options.
2:26 PM - DaveW: Guys you know Bets has made the rules right? This shouldnt even be up for debate
2:26 PM - [NN] Bets: We do ban pick pick, or ban pick ban pick.
2:26 PM - [NN] Bets: Decide now please
2:27 PM - Tsavong: ok
2:27 PM - Tsavong: yesterday
2:27 PM - Tsavong: kurt got pissed
2:27 PM - [NN] Bets: If I dont have a decision by 2:30 PM my time. I'll take that as a forfeit.
2:28 PM - [NN] Bets: 2:27 PM - [NN] Bets
2:28 PM - Tsavong: so he's replaced by crunchybutt
2:28 PM - Tsavong: that k
2:28 PM - [NN] Bets: We can discuss that later
2:28 PM - Tsavong: ok then
2:28 PM - [NN] Bets: You can't make the sub for right now
2:29 PM - Barbie: yo
2:29 PM - Barbie: get a sub in for you 2
2:29 PM - Barbie: anyone you like
2:29 PM - [NN] Bets: 60 seconds before a forfeit
2:29 PM - [NN] Bets: I gave you the options
2:29 PM - Tsavong: he have a decision
2:29 PM - Tsavong: 3v2
2:29 PM - Tsavong: you said teams could have replacements
2:29 PM - [NN] Bets: Ok. So tell cruchy butt to leave and get in spaz
2:29 PM - Tsavong: here is our replacment
2:29 PM - Tsavong: he cba with 3v2
2:29 PM - [NN] Bets: You cannot get a sub at this time.
2:30 PM - [NN] Bets: You have to give advanced notice
2:30 PM - Tsavong: he is not being a sub
2:30 PM - Tsavong: kurt lfet
2:30 PM - Tsavong: left*
2:30 PM - [NN] Bets: Good. We will decide this after the game.
2:30 PM - Tsavong: if you say so
2:30 PM - [NN] Bets: This is breaking the rules
2:30 PM - Tsavong: i'll try and presuade spaz to play
2:30 PM - [NN] Bets: No
2:30 PM - [NN] Bets: Time is up soon
2:31 PM - [NN] Bets: I understand the situation.
2:31 PM - [NN] Bets: You didnt have 3 people on at all
2:31 PM - [NN] Bets: That is why you said 2 v 3
2:31 PM - [NN] Bets: err
2:31 PM - [NN] Bets: 2 v 2
2:31 PM - [NN] Bets: That was not Spaz's alt either
2:31 PM - Tsavong: prove
2:31 PM - Tsavong: and we'll play
2:31 PM - [NN] Bets: I just ignored the fact that you were trying to do tactics like that.
2:32 PM - Tsavong: spaz is cmoing
2:32 PM - [NN] Bets: Yo legit
2:32 PM - Tsavong: we'll 3v2
2:32 PM - [NN] Bets: You are wasting my fucking time with this nonsense
2:33 PM - [NN] Bets: Are you sure you want to continue?
2:33 PM - Tsavong: yes
2:33 PM - [NN] Bets: Because one more straw and thats it
2:33 PM - [NN] Bets: "2 v 3 is stupid lets do 2 v 2"
2:33 PM - [NN] Bets: smh
2:34 PM - [NN] Bets: You are lucky I am playing
2:34 PM - Tsavong: put allow joinw ithout invite on
2:34 PM - Tsavong: in case of dc
2:34 PM - [NN] Bets: And that my decision is going to be controversial
2:34 PM - Tsavong: if you didn't wouldn't it be a3v1?
2:34 PM - [NN] Bets: If you fuck up a tiny bit from now on
2:34 PM - [NN] Bets: IWTN is out of the League
2:34 PM - [NN] Bets: Just a warning
2:34 PM - DaveW: Ok, so we are going ahead with 3 vs 2 ,correct?
2:34 PM - [NN] Bets: Correct
2:34 PM - Tsavong: mhm
2:35 PM - DaveW: k
2:35 PM - [NN] Bets: Also.
2:35 PM - [NN] Bets: I am going to report this chat to each team
2:35 PM - [NN] Bets: Just so you know beforehand
2:35 PM - [NN] Bets: In case the other teams in the league don't want to deal with this
2:35 PM - DaveW: >>Map is ribbit
2:35 PM - [NN] Bets: Because I know BOSS was upset.
2:36 PM - DaveW: >> NN ban Derpl, IWTN ban Raelynn
2:37 PM - DaveW: IWTN 2 picks, NN 1 pick
2:37 PM - [NN] Bets: Nah
2:37 PM - [NN] Bets: 2 picks both teams
2:37 PM - DaveW: oh
2:37 PM - [NN] Bets: We just dont get last pick
2:37 PM - DaveW: kk
2:37 PM - Tsavong: hmm
2:38 PM - DaveW: So then IWTN gets no 2nd ban
2:38 PM - Tsavong: i think the ban pick ban pick is better
2:38 PM - [NN] Bets: It is ban pick pick ban pick
2:39 PM - DaveW: I guess the 3rd player does outweigh any advantage of no 2nd ban, lol
2:39 PM - DaveW: ok
2:39 PM - Tsavong: yeah
2:39 PM - DaveW: >>NN pick Froggy G and Swiggins, IWTN pick Coco and Froggy G
2:40 PM - DaveW: Now just a ban from NN
2:40 PM - [NN] Bets: btw
2:41 PM - [NN] Bets: I like how you wanted even more of an advantage lmao
2:41 PM - Tsavong: making the best out of a bad situation
2:41 PM - Barbie: [NN] Bets: I like how you wanted even more of an advantage lmao
2:41 PM - Barbie: plz no more comments like that
2:41 PM - [NN] Bets: You wanted to 2 v 2 becuase 2 v 3 was unfair
2:42 PM - Tsavong: just ban and move on
2:42 PM - Tsavong: i got to go in 50 mins
2:42 PM - Tsavong: did tell you
2:42 PM - [NN] Bets: Leon
2:42 PM - DaveW: Okay NN ban Leon, 1 pick from IWTN now
2:42 PM - [NN] Bets: Unlike you guys, I can multitask
2:42 PM - Tsavong: we pick skoll
2:42 PM - Tsavong: dang
2:42 PM - DaveW: Right then, lets go guys
2:42 PM - DaveW: Good luck
2:42 PM - [NN] Bets: glhf
2:55 PM - Tsavong: wp
2:56 PM - Tsavong: we hos tthis time?
2:56 PM - [NN] Bets: IWTN wins game 1
2:56 PM - DaveW: ok
2:56 PM - DaveW: NN pick the map
2:56 PM - [NN] Bets: Sorona
2:56 PM - DaveW: 1 ban each team please
2:56 PM - [NN] Bets: Host means nothing in awesomenauts but if you really wanna go ahead
2:57 PM - DaveW: IWTN ban froggy G, NN ban skolldir
2:57 PM - Barbie: it means alot if you play yuri
2:58 PM - [NN] Bets: ?
2:58 PM - Tsavong: can't pick up cubes quickly
2:58 PM - Tsavong: like can scroll wheel them or just brush past them with lazor to pick them up
2:58 PM - [NN] Bets: Just dont have the yuri player as host
2:58 PM - [NN] Bets: Not that hard
2:59 PM - DaveW: NN picks Raelynn and Leon; IWTN picks Lonestar and Yuri.
3:00 PM - [NN] Bets: Ban Voltar
3:00 PM - [NN] Bets: Yuri + Voltar too good combo
3:00 PM - Tsavong: ayla
3:01 PM - Tsavong: lets get this over with
3:01 PM - [NN] Bets: glhf
3:01 PM - DaveW: ok, good luck once again
3:01 PM - Tsavong: gl
3:16 PM - [NN] Bets: IWTN wins 2-0
3:16 PM - DaveW: Ok
3:16 PM - Tsavong: btw
3:16 PM - Tsavong: 1 quick question
3:16 PM - [NN] Bets: Hmm?
3:16 PM - Tsavong: do the inter div matchs
3:16 PM - Tsavong: count towards division points?
3:16 PM - [NN] Bets: Yes
3:16 PM - DaveW: speaking of which
3:16 PM - DaveW: Tsavong can we schedule ours now?
3:16 PM - [NN] Bets: Go ahead and schedule you too. However.
3:17 PM - [NN] Bets: I am going to report this situation to all the teams.
3:17 PM - [NN] Bets: And they will decide IWTN's future in the league
3:17 PM - [NN] Bets: This is the 2nd issue.
3:17 PM - Barbie: wait
3:17 PM - Barbie: what was that?
3:17 PM - Barbie: what's our situation?
3:17 PM - Tsavong: sure
3:17 PM - Tsavong: tbh
3:18 PM - Tsavong: thing was boss wasn't really an issue
3:18 PM - [NN] Bets: If it were any other team but mine
3:18 PM - Tsavong: with eu na teams there will  aways be times when teams cant play
3:18 PM - [NN] Bets: You'd be kicked out.
3:18 PM - [NN] Bets: Just saying.



4:23 PM - Tsavong: yo can klonoa be my teams 5th?
4:23 PM - Tsavong: he changed his mind
4:23 PM - Bets: No
4:23 PM - Tsavong: why?
4:24 PM - Tsavong: seriously
4:24 PM - Tsavong: why?
4:27 PM - Tsavong: i want a reason dude
4:32 PM - Tsavong: you don;t have 1 do you
4:32 PM - Tsavong: you can fuck off
4:33 PM - Tsavong: go suck a dick



5:13 PM - DaveW: Also, he changed his name..
5:13 PM - DaveW: 'bets can fuck off'