<Domitjen> Have you read up last night log in dev channel?
<Domitjen> We were discussing about implementing voice sentences for each character in game.
<Bradless> Yep.  Not sure why Arnold said I was against it :P
<Domitjen> Scifi was thrilled by this idea ( in pm ). But Jadenkorn said you discontinued that feature
<Domitjen> aah
<Domitjen> O great to hear
<Bradless> That was actually something already planned too
<Bradless> Just need to collect the voice sounds.
<Bradless> The more we have, the better.
<Domitjen> That was my next question.
<Bradless> Voice and text both?  Or just voice?
<Domitjen> Say if I should collect about 5 famous lines for each character.
<Bradless> I say just voice.
<Domitjen> Me 2
<Bradless> That's fine.
<Domitjen> But do you know a decent program to erase background noise?
<Bradless> Sounds   -- At least 5-7 lockon voices for each character  -- At least 3-4 taunts for each character (character-specific also when possible)
<Bradless> Character specific reactions would be nice too by the way
<Domitjen> I can rip them from the show but there will always be background noises.
<Bradless> So if I'm Vegeta and I taunt Goku, he can say something like "Kakkarot, you clown!"
<Bradless> Just use the games.
<Bradless> I think we already have most ripped
<Bradless> You just have to filter over them and find the good ones.
<Bradless> And organize them
<Domitjen> What games?
<Domitjen> the ps2 games?
<Bradless> Commercial ones.  Any of them.
<Bradless> That's where all of our voices come from currently
<Domitjen> It's not cause i'm a dbz fan, that I have all the dbz games for console :p
<Domitjen> Only one i have is raging blast
<Domitjen> for ps3
<Domitjen> but I'm sure to find a site with voice clips of dbz chars.
<Bradless> Let me create an FTP account for you that links to my ZEQ2/ZEQ2-lite folder.
<Bradless> You can go digging :P
<Domitjen> ok, But it will be in the evening though. I can't use pc much at noon.
<Domitjen> it's 11:32 now.
<Bradless> And even Aaron has said that trying to clear series sounds isn't very practical
<Domitjen> I'm just doing a checkup for the tournament in forums.
<Bradless> The result won't ever be as good as just grabbing a clean audio game rip
<Domitjen> that was my concern
<Domitjen> but I don't get why we would need diff lockon voices
<Domitjen> nevermind, it would be better to hear a random lockon everytime when pressing G right?
<Domitjen> but brb
<Bradless> Exactly.
<Bradless> And we don't always have to play a lockon voice sound either.  It can be silent sometimes (just with maybe a trigger sound effect)
<Bradless> Voice variety will help it a lot
<Domitjen> come to think of it.
<Domitjen> I do have budokai tenkaichi 3 iso
<Domitjen> maybe I can get into those sound files?
<Domitjen> with some program?
<Domitjen> you guys are doing huge copyright infringment though with using commercial games voiceclips
<Domitjen> want jap voices aswell?
<Bradless> Like I said we pretty much already have EVERY voice and EVERY sound from EVERY DBZ game in existence :P
<Bradless> We had people rip them from years ago
<Domitjen> ah so..
<Domitjen> I don't need to search them anymore?:p
<Bradless> You need to search and find good ones
<Bradless> And sort them.
<Bradless> By taunt/lockon
<Bradless> ftp://zeq2archives:turtleblast@zeq2lite.no-ip.org
<Domitjen> ah they are unorganized?
<Bradless> That's one good check
<Bradless> Use an FTP program
<Bradless> You have to FIND them first
<Bradless> I don't even remember what year or folder to start in
<Domitjen> won't be that hard
<Domitjen> .ogg ?
<Bradless> No idea.
<Bradless> wav, mp3, or ogg probably
<Bradless> That's about 40% of my total ZEQ2 files.
<Domitjen> circlerun sure made alot of sounds:p
<Bradless> They may be in the other folder.
<Bradless> Don't try to search by browser by the way
<Bradless> Again, make SURE you use an actual FTP client
<Domitjen> such as?
<Bradless> FileZilla Client
<Bradless> Or FlashFXP will work
<Domitjen> o btw, zeq2 lite is in the top 100!
<Domitjen> ok
<Bradless> Yeah.  That's... pretty sad :P
<Domitjen> let me search it up.
<Bradless> It shouldn't be
<Bradless> It doesn't deserve it.
<Domitjen> why's that ?
<Bradless> Kind of a joke.
<Domitjen> No.
<Domitjen> you always look upon it like a joke :p
<Domitjen> but it's actually a pretty decent dbz game.
<Bradless> It's not a game.
<Domitjen> even with the bugs and flaws
<Bradless> Don't ever call it that.
<Bradless> It's just a sandbox :P
<Bradless> There is no "game" element.
<Domitjen> Well, things are about to get changed, aren't they?
<Bradless> It's like... I left a monopoly piece on the ground and you kids have been imagining it's a rocket ship for the last year
<Bradless> You have no goals or instructions though!
<Domitjen> with scifi joining up
<Bradless> Any sound you think could link to a certain feature, let me know
<Bradless> For instance, I remember crater/crack sounds
<Bradless> Remind me they exist or make a list
<Bradless> And we'll see what we can do to inject more sounds/features
<Domitjen> ok.
<Domitjen> and voice over ip ?
<Domitjen> but that would be stupid i think :p
<Domitjen> ok opened firezilla.
<Domitjen> So how exactly does it work?
<Bradless> Enter in the user, pass, and address/host.
<Bradless> Then hit connect
<Bradless> user : zeq2archives
<Bradless> pass : turtleblast
<Bradless> host : zeq2lite.no-ip.org
<Domitjen> port?
<Bradless> Then you can transfer/browse entire folders.
<Bradless> 21, default
<Domitjen> ok thanks.
<Domitjen> this really is everything from the beginning of the project right?
<Bradless> 40%
<Bradless> That's the most I organized it.
<Bradless> I have other folders too
<Domitjen> ah ok:p
<Bradless> And years of FTP backups.
<Bradless> If you want to organize them, by all means
<Bradless> I can get you everything :P
<Domitjen> imo
<Domitjen> 2002 - 2006 (voices)
<Domitjen> will have everything we need
<Domitjen> by the looks of it
<Domitjen> But..IT's already perfectly organised..
<Domitjen> every character has a specific folder
<Domitjen> It's not like it is 1 big mess with all the sounds.
<Domitjen> so you want me to divide the sounds into lock/taunt folders?
<Bradless> Yes.
<Bradless> By character
<Bradless> And see if you can further pick out some particular character taunts/lockons
<Bradless> Like... when one character is addressing another character they know
<Domitjen> like goku vs gohan : come on dad?
<Bradless> Yep!
<Bradless> Exactly.
<Bradless> It'll make the game feel a lot more personal.
<Domitjen> if I come across them ok
<Bradless> The more the merrier.
<Bradless> I think that folder you are in is only some of Aaron's collection or maybe one game.
<Domitjen> but as I said, it's already divided per language and character, only thing I have to do is divide the sounds into grunts,lockons and taunts
<Bradless> If you want to get all games (ones with story would be best so the voices make sense)
<Bradless> Right.
<Bradless> Well, go for it :)
<Bradless> Look in other folders too
<Domitjen> I will, but starting with one thing in a row
<Domitjen> the 2002-2006
<Domitjen> I think those will have the most
<Domitjen> May I ask a non dev to help me out with this btw?:p
<Bradless> Such as?
<Domitjen> Mima
<Domitjen> I cannot..And will not ..let you continue..with this any longer!
<Bradless> Sure.
<Domitjen> can I specify this as
<Domitjen> cutscene sound?
<Bradless> Define "cutscene"
<Domitjen> cause that's when goku first time transforms
<Bradless> Transformation sound, perhaps.
<Domitjen> If the first time you transform in zeq2lite would be a long transformation, then You could use that voice
<Domitjen> But I don't know how you want that to work out.
<Bradless> Long screams would be nice too
<Bradless> We lack screams right now.
<Domitjen> RIPOFFS!
<Domitjen> goku spirite bomb ESF's
<Domitjen> :p
<Domitjen> busted
<Bradless> ESF took their sounds from other sources as well.  It's to be expected.
<Domitjen> hehe, just found it funny
<Bradless> You think they had a voice actor come in and record it or so?
<Domitjen> holy fuck, some epic sounds.
<Domitjen> no no :p
<Bradless> Just wasn't sure if you mean that ESF ripped off DBZ or if ZEQ2 ripped off ESF.
<Bradless> Which in both cases, both ripped off DBZ so it's moot.
<Domitjen> so, I'm making a a grunt,lockon,cutsene and taunt folder per character. IF one character lacks sounds in any of those submaps, should I make a list of it?
<Domitjen> since I notice that 16 lacks sounds ( as for the sounds I got right now )
<Bradless> Well, try to focus only on characters we have or plan to have presently.
<Bradless> i.e : anything that has a model presently
<Domitjen> ah ofcourse
<Domitjen> could you fill me up with the characters you want to have released with pb2?
<Domitjen> krillin,frieza,nappa,cell,vegeta,chiatzu,..
<Bradless> Well, public beta 2 isn't exactly public beta 2, you see :P
<Bradless> Right now, there WILL be a release as soon as all of the present bugs are fixed
<Bradless> Maybe even before any other new features!
<Domitjen> right and once the stable version has arrived you can make regular patches
<Bradless> The goal right now is this : Fix all bugs and get a perfectly stable release with what exists.  Release improved source, build, and all media.   Continue development by adding new features and updating build very frequently.
<Bradless> Exactly.
<Domitjen> Screams..I put those aswell in grunt folder, ok?
<Bradless> Depends on their usages.
<Bradless> Screams would be when charging up, likely.
<Bradless> Grunts are when you take damage, right?
<Domitjen> indeed
<Domitjen> but
<Domitjen> most of the sceams are when characters are transforming aswell
<Domitjen> so I put those in the cutscenes section
<Domitjen> but indeed
<Domitjen> non transformable characters have normal power up screams aswell
<Domitjen> I'll take that in consideration
<Domitjen> some files adressed with "taunt" could be used as lockon aswell though