Anthony Hordern, 31 min
Basically you have to show them that the government and medical authorities and ‘scientific’ organisations are all corrupt. That’s like showing a Catholic how corrupt the church is

Richard Nichols III, 29 min
what's their motivation to be corrupt?
their incentive / how they make money or whatever

Anthony Hordern, 28 min
Basically ppl are super skeptical of other people’s ideologies and authorities but super naive (by choice) about their own
The incentives are the old ones - money and power and avoiding pain and loss
The RFK Jr article you linked gives a good example

Richard Nichols III, 27 min
sure but why do they get money or power or avoid pain or  loss by incorrectly concluding that vaccines don't cause autism

Anthony Hordern, 26 min
Because it’s a trillion dollar liability and no one would ever trust them (the government and its medical authorities) ever again
They’d all have to admit they have been tragically wrong and lose everything
They’d have to admit to destroying the brains of millions of children
Hardly anyone has the psychological integrity to do that

Richard Nichols III, 24 min
the people who do the studies aren't the same people who sell the vaccines, though.. no?

Anthony Hordern, 24 min
The studies were done by CDC
They create the vaccine schedule
And they profit from vaccines
And they spend more money on vaccine propaganda than on safety research
There is a revolving door between CDC and pharma
It’s called regulatory capture
The regulators (eg CDC) are sock puppets for the industry they are supposed to regulate
And the government doesn’t want to admit it has poisoned its population and damaged millions of children
And then pay out a trillion dollars
It would be the worst public relations disaster in history
No one would ever trust governments or doctors ever again

Anthony Hordern, 15 min
Obviously the whole vaccine program would grind to a halt worldwide
As millions of parents refused to vaccinate
Costing pharma billions
And making scientistics (most ppl) consider the collapse of civilisation
Because they would be terrified of epidemics of every ‘vaccine-preventable’ disease
The stock market would prob crash

Anthony Hordern, 10 min
Pharma and prob some government agencies would insist it’s all a lie and pit out disinformation
And most ppl, including most doctors and scientists, would prob refuse to believe it
The studies that proved causal association would not be published
(Pharma owns the journals)
And every possible means would be employed to criticise the studies and demonise their authors