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  5. > [-] **from GradeAUnderA** Cl [+6] sent an hour ago I'm just messaging to let you know the effects of the subreddit you run. I'm a Youtuber who values his privacy over anything else. I'm in a position where I could get fame from the platform I'm on, but I have no interest in doing so, I wish to live a life of privacy and that glitzy lifestyle has no appeal to me whatsoever. Fame scares me, and I don't want it. However, I am now getting threats from people from the GradeAUnderA subreddit saying they're going to dox me, meaning find and leak my personal information to the world, something a lot of people on Youtube have an unhealthy interest in. I literally got a passionate message just now specifically tell me they were going to find my name, my address, my face picture, etc and reveal it, essentially ruining any privacy I have. And why? All because you thought there was something to expose me for, my asking you to delete/hide that thread, all for the sake of transparency. I asked you to delete a thread that had like 2 or 3 comments and literally 0 upvotes at the time. If you think me wanting to delete that had anything to do with covering up something to protect my good name, you're dead wrong. Some people on the internet are unfair towards some Youtubers and it's something you have had zero experience with, Cyan, zero. Yet you felt the need to make that post, and now this is the effects I'm getting. I just wanted to message you to say I had never done anything wrong to you, I had never wished ill on you or anything like that, and this is what I'm now facing, and I see you as responsible. I find it a shame that you didn't feel you could message me first, but here I am now, getting threats from hackers as a result of your rash decision. I could end on some passive aggressive note but I'll just end by saying I'm honestly disappointed. You were literally the only person I've ever friended on Reddit and now I'm having to go through this as a result of what you, the only person I ever friended on Reddit, did. I don't understand what I did to you, but now I'm having to face this. I wish I had never tried to get involved with this subreddit of yours. All I ever wanted to do was make those guys happy, but you do this. Please consider the repercussions of your actions towards others in the future. permalink source source report block user mark unread reply full comments
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  7. [-] to GradeAUnderA O [+6] sent an hour ago You're right. I didn't think and I am honestly sorry. People saying they will dox you is wrong. People threatening you is wrong. If I see any of that on the subreddit I will remove it. People can be assholes. I do know that. I honestly didn't want to hurt you. That wasn't my intention at all and I feel terrible if people are saying horrid things to you. I'm not going to give you my initial reasoning behind posting it. All I can say is I thought I was doing the right thing. I don't think I can be blamed for that. You didn't do anything to me. Nothing at all. That is true. I'm going to fix this. I'm going to apologize publicly to both you and the subreddit. That should end this all the drama I caused. Listen, if people are threatening you then I owe you something. Although I can't afford to host, how would you like a website? I have started learning and I honestly wanna try and make something useful with it. I hope soon you will find yourself liking the subreddit again and coming back. Until then I just hope that I can end all this drama. -Emily P.S. No, I'm not going to release your message to me but I will reference it in my apology. People need context.
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  9. > [-] **from GradeAUnderA** O [+6] sent 49 minutes ago Honestly I don't want anything, you giving something that costs you time or money isn't something I want to do. Honestly I talk to a few other big youtubers and they always talk about how much they get stressed on a daily basis and I have, and I'm not exagerrating, NEVER experienced any stress at all; literally none. But now I'm getting that sinking feeling in my stomach every time I check my reddit messages. It sucks so much that checking my subreddit is the only thing that ever makes me feel stress. All I ever wanted was to give the people there more attention, I was even wanting to do a private stream just for them! But here I am actively going out of my way to avoid them now, and it's honestly so disappointing. Not just that I don't get to give them more attention, but even moreso that specifically that group of people has turned into a witchhunt group against me, and some even wanting to dox me now and ruin all privacy I have. I get unfair criticism, that's a part of life of a Youtuber I guess, but again, the expecting my hate for Keem to surpass the love for my parents is unbelievable and among the most unfair expectations I can think of. If I was ever told that fans would expect that of me when I started Youtube, I would have never believed them, but it's a reality. Some fans are like that, and it's something that as someone who doesn't experience interactions with that many viewers/fans, you have no scope of, I guess. The reason I asked you to delete that thread back then was because I was dwelling on the unfair criticism I get and it was affecting my ability to make videos. I have no issue with criticism, I literally had Hank Green of the vlogbrothers comment on my video, and I didn't care at all about deleting it. You see SO MANY youtubers deleting comments, and people then commenting "why's this guy deleting comments?" You have, nor will you ever see that on my videos. Even Ethan from h3h3productions has MANY instances of deleting video comments, tweets and posts on his subreddit, yet here I am getting backlash for requesting a thread with 0 upvotes at the time to be deleted, and dox threats too. One of my main messages has always been that public figures like Youtubers shouldn't be idolised and should be held accountable for their actions etc etc. Criticism is not a problem for me, but my VIP's giving me unfair criticism, expecting me to hate someone more than how much I love my parents is honestly the most absurd and unfair thing I've ever heard. This video I'm gonna upload next, it's literally gone be some 2 minute piece of shit that I discarded from an older video because again, I'm not able to focus on writing or being creative, and definitely not on being funny, because I'm not in a mood where I wanna be funny. If you want to do an apology thread, that would be greatly appreciated, but if at all possible, like a week or two after it's been up and people have had a chance to read it, I'd love for the subreddit to just be gone after a little while, if possible. I get nothing nice out of it. I understand your sentiment that the subreddit is about me and not MINE to control itself, but given that I'm getting threats to get doxed now, all I ask is you understand the reality of just how unreasonable some fans can be and consider deleting the subreddit. Honestly all I ever set out to do on Youtube is help people man. Make funny videos, expose people who need to be exposed (Vegan Gains wishing death on people and laughing at people with cancer, Nicole Arbour spreading her fat-shaming videos, prank channels with their anti-social behaviour) and make changes that need to be made (Like Youtube's copyright issues, which was a huge success!) but despite that, here I am with people wanting to actively dox me and talking about me like I'm the internet's greatest evil. Sorry for such a long message but it's affecting my ability to make videos, and that's my livelihood. All I ask is that you consider the things I've mentioned in this message. Thank you. permalink source source report block user mark unread reply full comments
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  11. [-] **to GradeAUnderA** O [+6] sent 41 minutes ago https://www.reddit.com/r/GradeAUnderA/comments/4j2c47/apology_to_grade_and_a_valuable_lesson/ I made the apology post. You should probably comment there and explain what you just did to me. It >will make yourself seem much more human to them and will otherwise improve your reputation. Getting it all of your chest will also probably help you mentally.
  12. I'm against deleting the subreddit because I definitely think it can regenerate 121 into something much better.
  13. Nerdcubed once felt the same way you did about his subreddit but it improved overtime. I'll talk to the other mods about the rules and what constitutes good and bad criticism. Mainly, in my opinion, good criticism is well structured, bad criticism is swear words and attacks. -Emily
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  15. [-] **to GradeAUnderA** O [+6] sent 34 minutes ago Just out of curiosity, why the rude words on Twitch? [-] from GradeAUnderA Q [+6] sent 32 minutes ago You have no idea of the repercussions I'm getting on this. The one thing I value is my privacy, and that was an hour or two after seeing the dox message and I was furious. I'm unfiltered, and I always have been. I apologise for you hearing those words but that's what I felt at the time, in all honesty. For someone who I was never anything but friendly being responsible for starting a witchhunt that has people wanting to dox me and take away my privacy, the one thing I value above all else, isn't something that was gonna have me in a good mood, I'm sure you can appreciate that. permalink source source report block user mark unread reply full comments
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  17. [-] **to GradeAUnderA** O [+6] sent 22 minutes ago Okay, so it seems that me apologizing has only escalated things slightly. I doubt it will last for long. Listen, Grade. It seems people are angry at you because they feel you are acting immature. As much as I like your "unfiltered" self it seems to give people this image of a child. This is especially so that they all know that I am 16 and that we are "enemies" apparently. I think it might be best if you made an appearance just to make yourself look better. Avoid profanities and offending people and you should be fine. Really, all they want is an apology. By giving up your humility you can easily end everything now. This is just a suggestion of course. -Emily
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  19. > [-] **from GradeAUnderA** Q [+6] sent 14 minutes ago "I'm not going to disclose what he said publicly as I only feel it would fuel the drama" Disclose the messages I sent you now, and feel free to disclose anything I've ever said. I have never had any agenda relating to hiding or wanting to cover up anything. I have no plans on posting on the GradeAUnderA subreddit again, I want no association with it. Look at the comments on that thread, it's still a witchhunt. People will still be against me because you're not apologising for your actions, you're only apologising for the backlash I'm getting, which a lot of people there won't sympathise with because they see it as justified. By the way, do you consider the screenshot of our conversation you posted as being one worth posting, i.e. one that the fans had to see? Do you think I had an agenda there? I even said I have no issue with hate or criticism; the self-righteousness (and the unfairness) of their posts was my issue. It had ZERO upvotes, did you honestly think I wanted to hide something from the fans there Cyan? I wasn't trying to hide it from the fans, I wanted to hide it from myself, but when you're dwelling on something, you can't help but keep checking it. It was almost as if I wanted that unfair criticism gone somewhere I couldn't check anymore for my own sanity. I'm sorry Cyan, but you posting that screenshot in the way you did, in the style of "Sorry GradeA, but I gotta expose you" type way, all it does it give the people who want to hate me, something to hate me on. Go read the thread I asked you to delete and tell me if there was anything I would particularly want hiding there. In the apology, you seem to only be apologising for the extremeness of some of the people's reactions, but none for your actions. While one of my concerns is the repercussions of your actions, of course, the bigger picture is absolutely your actions themselves. Every Youtuber has viewers who want to hate them, and despite my message not being bad at all...you've now given them fuel Noone cares to read context, all they care about is "GRADEA TRIED TO DELETE SOMETHING." Again I find it crazy that you felt the need to expose me. Again, your apology essentially does nothing, and you can see that from every single message saying you don't need to apologise. You are essentially only apologising for the repercussions, which you said were dozing and death threats and they're still seen as justified by everyone there. I've even got people theorising that I'm pressuring you to apologise. They don't care to listen. This is why I'm asking for the subreddit to be deleted. Not because I'm trying to silence anything, but more because of it being unfair. permalink source source report block user mark unread reply full comments [-] to GradeAUnderA sent 5 minutes ago I never felt you had an agenda with wanting that thread deleted. My reasoning behind releasing it was more to show that I had made a mistake by almost listening to you and locking the thread. They will make up their mind. It's an opinion isn't it. Just because their opinion is against you doesn't mean they are bad people. Alright, I show everyone this conversation. Just ignore the subreddit if it truly bothers you. I understand perfectly well that it is your human nature to want to look at it but you must resist. I don't think anybody would be particularly happy if the subreddit was deleted. If anything it would just make them hate you more. All this drama started with your first of two videos. It was extremely terribly timing on my behalf for posting what my thread at the time when everyone got angry. I'll revise my apology. -Emily permalink source
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