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- Revisited January 2022:
- Might still be considerably slower than Mewtwo, but should be faster with Lucky Egg manip?
- Lorelei 2: Damage Dewgong turn 1 (stops Double Team spam), still go to +6
- Bruno 2: Same
- Agatha 2: Same (can do Substitute-less variant with Full Heal)
- Lance 2: Same (can do Substitute-less variant with X Speed and lots of branches)
- Champion 2: Old notes are bad because T-Tar comes out second. Use Intimidate slave since Megahorn happens fairly often even when you're faster. Let Venusaur Sunny Day and win fight with 2HKOs on Alakazam and Gyarados. Need to find a turn to X Speed
- Comparison to Mewtwo
- GOOD:
- - Master Ball something (-43)
- - Cerulean Cave money (-2)
- - Skip Mewtwo (-140)
- - Skip Fire Blast (-12)
- - Skip PP item (-9)
- TOTAL: -206
- BAD:
- - Get more exp. (+9)
- - Brick Break and EQ for Lorelei 1 (+10)
- - E4R2 money/shopping (+18)
- - Intimidate slave (+5)
- - Substitute (+42)
- - Lorelei (+48)
- - Bruno (+16)
- - Agatha (+18)
- - Lance (+42)
- - Champion (+29)
- TOTAL: +237
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- Old notes:
- Clearly not faster than Mewtwo, as you need extra candies and extra money, you have to detour for Substitute (or have a very bad Lance 2 fight), and the fights are considerably slower
- STATS: Modest is bad for Lorelei 2
- CATCHES: Use Master Ball on Onix or something
- MOVESET: Surf/Blizzard/Substitute/Brick Break
- EXPERIENCE: Get L65 for Crobat/Arbok
- OTHER: Mystic Water is not worth it
- Lorelei 2: +6 Brick Break (+5 is a range on Cloyster; can kill Dewgong at +3)
- Bruno 2: +2 Torrent Surf sweep (possible Machamp range)
- Agatha 2:
- - Heal to 60-110 HP
- - Equip Lum Berry
- 1: X Speed (status healed by Lum Berry)
- 2: Substitute (status blocked)
- 3: X Special (Psychic/SB hits Substitute)
- 4-8: Surf (possible Crobat/Arbok ranges)
- Lance 2: Substitute, X Special x5, X Accuracy, Blizzard x4, Surf
- Champion 2: Guard Spec., X Speed, X Special x2, Substitute into Torrent, Surf, X Accuracy, Blizzard, Surf x2, Blizzard+Blizzard, Surf
- > Likely have to heal during this setup because of Sand Stream, but that might require extra X Specials to kill Heracross and Alakazam
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