lauchlin's hatred of the Ideal of Debate

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4:41:14 PMInfiniteSpirexsnlx: I had a point I wanted you to reflect on.
4:42:12 PMInfiniteSpireNo doubt, there are differences in the posts between sardaukar and myself. However, ultimately, you banned me -- somebody who is excellent at Western debate, and who has the capacity to potentially improve and challenge some of your conceptions on the topic -- but you did not ban sardaukar.
4:42:53 PMInfiniteSpireI believe you will genuinely perceive these two events as substantially different, which they are a non-zero amount, and you might even be correct, but you also could be wrong, yes.
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4:43:40 PMInfiniteSpireAnd a thing for you to reflect on is whether or not the constant lying of sardaukar -- which is present in virtually every single one of his posts -- is less problematic for the Ideal of Debate -- than the 'attacks', as you conceptualized them, of my being honest about sardaukar's intentionality, as I frame it.
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4:44:24 PM+BS_LewisI like meta-debate about #debates
4:44:55 PMInfiniteSpireOf course, I think the constant lying of sardaukar to be 100%, entirely objectionable to the Ideal of Debate. I conceptualize constant lying to be THE primary enemy of the Ideal of Debate. However, you seem to be quite content to merely correct the record of his in every one of his posts, whereas I see his posts as an intentional, systematic attack on the idea that there exists Truth outside the decree of the Sovereign.
4:45:23 PMInfiniteSpireTo be clear, the politics of Putin and Trump -- of which sardaukar is an acolyte -- are the rooted in the notion that not only does power grow from the barrel of a gun, but so does reality.
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4:46:01 PMInfiniteSpireThis is the deepest possible existential threat to the Socratic-Platonic-Aristotelean notion of truth and debate that you, at least naively, appear to be interested in growing and protecting.
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4:46:57 PMInfiniteSpireBS_Lewis: It's one of the most important types of debates, of course.
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4:55:18 PMInfiniteSpirexsnlx: How do you think this behavior compares to sardaukar's constant lying, or my be honest about the nature of sardaukar?
4:55:27 PMInfiniteSpirePrediction: You'll be silent on lauchlin's behavior.
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4:55:39 PMInfiniteSpireConsequence: You lose moral authority.
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